Bang the Drum Slowly

By Ramzy Nasrallah on November 21, 2011 at 2:00p
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Exactly 2,920 days ago today, the greatest rivalry in American sports celebrated its 100th edition in Michigan Stadium.

The Wolverines beat #4 Ohio State that afternoon 35-21, winning the full year of halcyon serenity that annually goes to the victorious side. The fifth-ranked Wolverines also walked off the field with the Big Ten title that afternoon, which historically has also frequently been awarded to the winner of this game.

Then 365 days later with the 2004 Big Ten title already sewn up, the one-loss Wolverines went into Columbus and were trounced by the four-loss Buckeyes 37-21.

And so it went, year after year for most of the first decade of the century, in increments of about 365 days. First it was two in a row in favor of Ohio State, which still counts as a streak in this rivalry.

Then came a third straight win, which was utterly surreal. After the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh* in a row that initial shock had morphed into a comforting sense of entitlement. This is supposed to happen every year.

Seven years without a Michigan victory means that a fourth consecutive senior class is currently at risk of leaving Ann Arbor without taking The Game even one time. They're 9-2 this year, which is easily the turnaround of the year in the conference, if not the country. A loss this Saturday might as well count as five.

This fulcrum of pleasure and pain where months of work can either pay off in amaranthine splendor or squandered into imperishable regret is where the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry resides. It is both the wrecking ball of great seasons and a fancy diadem for the otherwise gross, rubbishy ones.

Moral victories are rare for Ohio State and absolutely mythical when the opponent is Michigan.

That inaugural speech Jim Tressel gave in 2001 with his back-handed guarantee that he ultimately delivered in Ann Arbor? Those Buckeyes finished 7-5, yet that we still romanticize that feculent 2001 season on account of one game: The only game.

Whether it's 1987 or 1994, 2001 or 2004 there isn't anything that salvages an underwhelming year like beating Michigan.

Nothing reupholsters a painful offseason like fondly remembering what transpired in that final game, and there isn't anything that compares to the sight of Buckeye players beatifically jumping the bricks at the Big House in their road whites to celebrate a win with their fans.

The only alternative to that sight this Saturday is seeing 110,000 people cheering wildly and spilling onto the field in celebration while Ohio State players and coaches dodge fans while trudging into the tunnel at midfield behind their bench.

That's the cruel reality of how this fulcrum works. Moral victories are rare for Ohio State football in general and absolutely mythical when the opponent is Michigan.

The 2011 Buckeyes are 6-5, with the six teams they defeated combining for just 20 FBS victories. Beating Michigan would increase that total by almost 50 percent. Remove Wisconsin and those five teams Ohio State beat to get bowl-eligible have 12 total wins. This is a lousy football team.

It has been an utterly forgettable season, let alone a catastrophic calendar year for Ohio State football, but improbably beating Michigan on Saturday would change the entire complexion of 2011 dramatically.

High stakes and bowl implications mean nothing. Ohio State-Michigan means everything.

death of a salesman

Tressel arrived almost 11 years ago with a plan to re-engineer Ohio State into a program with purpose. Under John Cooper the Buckeyes were often a roster of talented but disconnected vagabonds.

Brady Hoke came to Michigan's rescue with virtually identical designs on his own program, right down to the part about filling up on talented players from Ohio.

Hoke's success is no surprise to anyone willing to look beyond his overall record, as losses tend to pile up when you're constantly extinguishing the previous guy's football arson.

He didn't write this rejuvenation recipe; he merely borrowed it from Bo Schembechler: Style of play, commitment to the program and the importance of beating Ohio State. Those who stay will be champions. To do that, more often than not you have to beat the Buckeyes.

Every Michigan coach that has elevated the Ohio State game has been successful.

As luck would have it, this isn't one of those years, but that doesn't make beating Ohio State any less important for Hoke. He has already equipped his tenure with a fast start, a strong recruiting class and an efficient return to fielding an FBS-caliber defense which had been absent for the entirety of Rich Rodriguez's tenancy.

Hoke very smartly positioned Michigan as Ohio State's challenger. For the better part of the last decade, the Big Ten was Ohio State. That dynasty came to an abrupt halt on Memorial Day, before he even had the chance to face the Buckeyes. Tressel's removal only helped accelerate Hoke's success in constructing the kind of program that can too become the conference flagship.

His predecessor, afraid of alienating the Purdues of the world, dismissed the idea of a conference duopoly. In doing so, Rodriguez dismissed too much important history and freed himself of significant allies that might have made his stay lengthier, if not a little more comfortable. Hoke is not making that same mistake.

The reality is that like Notre Dame, Michigan has long been everyone's rival, and that's fine for everyone. But Michigan - not the recent odorous, incompetent Michigan, but the traditional pain-in-the-ass Michigan - cannot reciprocate. It can have big national games, it can even have a state championship, but it can only have one arch-rival.

Michigan can have A state championship, but it can only have one arch-rival.

Hoke understood that, and he's given each opponent the appropriate focus and esteem. This isn't great news for Ohio State, who had made this rivalry one-sided in part because Tressel also understood the philosophy that Hoke has clearly embraced.

He is now at the brink of a ten-win season in what had been scheduled to be a year of cleaning up the wreckage of the last three years. Neutralize Ohio State to end his first run and the tone for the Hoke era is established. It would be the ultimate validation of his stewardship and confirmation of his methods.

Should Michigan lose - as an 8.5-point favorite at home to an Ohio State team that is as listless as it is lacking any cohesion - then not only is Hoke's eventual legend weakened, but the success of the 2011 season will be questioned.

This game is ripe for Michigan to take, and convincingly. Failing to do so would lacerate healing wounds. Schembechler won his first Ohio State game. So did Gary Moeller and Lloyd Carr. Rodriguez did not, annually losing in a disastrous manner so abysmal it practically had style points.

It has been almost 3,000 days since the Wolverines closed a season in an acceptable fashion. Hoke has to beat Ohio State; he reconfirmed the importance of doing so and made it a job requirement. Michigan hasn't had a finisher for too long. He finds himself selling the same bill of goods that Tressel presented in 2001.

If Hoke fails to close as Tressel did, it impacts everything he is trying to do both in Ann Arbor and Ohio. If somehow you don't believe this Saturday is that important, then there's a 74-year old former coach still living in Columbus who can elaborate on just how wrong you are.

waiting to exhale

Ohio State's permanent head coach-placeholder now has on-the-job experience that nobody wants. Luke Fickell has effectively become the palate cleanser between his legendary predecessor and his own replacement.

Not only was Fickell thrust into this position abruptly, he was burdened with Tressel's cronies whose existence at Ohio State went from making little sense to none in their hiring manager's absence. Unfortunately The Game cares not for details or complexity, just wins, which is why Fickell's legacy as Ohio State's head coach will be defined in its entirety on Saturday.

Unfortunately all his single season atop the organizational chart did was validate Tressel's coaching brilliance. Without a program steward - and most conspicuously, a teacher of quarterbacks - we saw what happens when the master is removed from a formula that requires his presence: The formula collapses. Tresselball without Tressel does not work.

What Fickell inherited was a quarterback coach in title only, and an offensive coordinator who kept the Buckeye offense ranked in the 100s out of 120 FBS teams for an entire season.

Despite what was said publicly the players never recovered from the trauma of the offseason, and when it was time for leaders to emerge, no one came to the rescue. The carousel of temporary captains extended the charade to the coin toss each Saturday.

Hard to find a Michigan player Buckeye fans appreciate more than 0-4 Mike Hart

And temporary captains were, as it turns out, fitting for Ohio State football this year. The climate around the program is temporary. The idling of its pipeline is temporary. Its head coach is temporary and, God willing, most of his assistants are temporary. Fickell knew exactly what he was accepting to take on, but that doesn't mean he was equipped or prepared for it.

With every passing Saturday - the narrow escape against Toledo, the ghastly performance at Miami or the lack of self-awareness with Michigan State, it was evident that Ohio State football was off the rails. Without any checks and balances on Tressel's crony hires, the team had no shot at the acceptable level of success.

The historic collapse at Nebraska, the loss at Purdue despite monumental talent advantages everywhere and the failure on Senior Day against an absolutely reeling Penn State program all served as strong evidence the Fickell experiment had shifted from tryout to timeout.

This is how a lost year feels. This 2011 season quickly became a waiting game for 2012. Regardless of the outcome on Saturday, there will be some degree of relief: It's finally over.

Fickell could still beat Michigan on Saturday and positively change the complexion of his tryout. He just won't change the outcome.

absence of malice

On Saturday it will have been 2,925 days since Michigan last won The Game. If the Buckeyes fall in Ann Arbor, that ticker will suddenly - technically - be 736 days in the wrong direction, since last year's game was scrubbed from history.

It will have only taken a year to shift the momentum in this rivalry north: The Buckeyes destroyed the Wolverines in last year's vacated game and were expected to contend for the BCS title before Tatgate demolished Tressel's machine. Ohio State was the Big Ten for a decade, yet suddenly finds itself completely irrelevant in 2011 nationally.

The Game's MVPs also own ten Heisman Trophies. Tom Harmon (#98) won in 1940.

Scandal trauma aside, this plummeting decline is not mysterious: The Buckeyes' total offense has slipped from 20th nationally in 2010 to 108th in 2011, though statistics aren't necessary to understand how bad this unit is.

Those miserable teams ranked among and beneath the Buckeyes do not field players that would have merited recruitment by Ohio State. It is a sweeping failure of the coaches whose incompetence was shielded by their boss for too many years.

Conversely, Michigan is well over 100 yards better than Ohio State per game while running an offense that probably isn't the optimal scheme for the players Hoke inherited.

The defenses are statistically equal, both ranked among the top 20 nationally for most of the season. The leap that Michigan has taken defensively in one year matches the collapse of Ohio State's offense in the same timeframe.

On paper this game is a mismatch, featuring similar defenses but only one competent offense. Against non-Akron opponents the Buckeyes have had roughly six total quarters of offensive production that wouldn't be considered abysmal. That's six out of 60.

Ohio State cannot win this game with offense. It will alternate between telegraphing its intentions right into the Michigan defense and running classic Bollman "sundial" plays that take so long to develop that they're predictably ambushed. The only true variables are the sandlot element of Braxton Miller's improvisation and the phenomenal individual athleticism of Boom Herron and DeVier Posey.

If the Buckeyes are to have any chance of winning this game it is going to have to come either via special teams play or by way Michigan's charity. The Wolverines do like to turn the ball over, so the Buckeyes will have to keep them from breaking character.

If they're successful Ohio State will be installing platinum rims on its clunker of a season, and the first thing - the only thing - you would notice, recall and remember about this clunker would be those rims. Michigan would face the grim reality of having been bested by the worst Ohio State team since the last one, which it also fell to two coaches ago.

The Wolverines would have to wait another 364 days to try and make amends for the ninth year in a row, while these 7-5 Buckeyes and this feculent 2011 season will be romanticized on account of one game: The only game.


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JLP36's picture

This is the championship game this year.  Go kick their ass!  GO BUCKS!


chitown buckeye's picture

Great write up... I like the fact there is a 1000 lbs of pressure on Michigain to win Saturday. This will really play in our favor! Hopefully they play nervous and we can take advantage of a few miscues early! If Michigain loses this year wow!! Not even sure what I would do if I was a Michigan fan. Although truth be told if I was a Michigan fan I pobably already would have shot myself!

"I'm having a heart attack!"

NC_Buckeye's picture

Anyone know who's calling the game Saturday? It's at noon, right?

RBuck's picture

Pasch and Spiels. High noon.

Long live the southend.

BucksfanXC's picture

But suspiciously, no Meyer listed on that crew...

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

RBuck's picture

Iread the reason why last week...just forgot what it is.

Long live the southend.

LABuckeye's picture

They stuck him on an SCE game. I didn't hear a specific reason. I assumed ESPN did it because of the Urban to OSU thing.

BuckeyeChris's picture

Come to think of it...has Meyer done an OSU game since the opener (Akron)? 


Buckeye Chuck's picture

I think recent history is the one thing the Buckeyes have going for them on Saturday. Michigan should win, and based on our most recent games, they should get out to a quick lead. But if that doesn't happen--or better yet, if Michigan suffers a bad break in the early going--they could develop a critical case of "here we go again"-itis.

It would be the flipside of the TD pass to Tai Streets in 1996. A lot of people have probably forgotten that OSU still led after that play, or that it happened early in the second half instead of near the end of the game. There's no logical reason that touchdown should have been that big a deal, but by that phase of Cooper's tenure, logic had nothing to do with The Game. Afterwards, the Buckeyes played as if they knew they were doomed, and what's more, most of the people in the stands (I was one of them) felt the same way.

If we can hit them with something similar on Saturday--something like the Smith-to-Gonzalez bomb that touched off the most recent upset in this series--it could be a fatal blow to the Michigan psyche. Of course, that would mean this coaching staff taking some initiative instead of constantly waiting till the team is behind to (relatively) open things up. It's hard to see them going against form at this point, but we can hope.


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faux_maestro's picture

PLEASE don't remind me of Tai Streets....

Your mom told me she wants a Dicken Cidar.

M Man's picture

I was hoping you might remember John Kolesar...

BuckeyeChris's picture

The Demon of Westlake. How could I forget?  It seemed like he was at Michigan for 20 years. 

elloyd1681's picture

I have to be reminded of that guy every November.  Thanks for getting it out of the way early this year, M Man.

Maestro's picture

Can't wait to go again.  I was at '02, '06 and '10 and had some of the most fun I have ever had in my life.

Last year's game was such a beat down that it was darn near boring by comparison to '02 and '06.  I was actually a little pissed that The Game had become such a foregone conclusion.  I know that kind of thinking is borrowing trouble, but it's how I felt.

Go Bucks!!!!

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theDuke's picture

thanks for riling up the people Ramzy. Now i want blood. This is it, this is all we have and this could be the penultimate game for these two storied programs. BEAT MICHAGAIN!!!!! seriously, please beat them.


M Man's picture

We both want blood. For the American Red Cross:

Since "penulitmate" means "second from the end" or next to last, I dare say I agree; this will be the penultimate game.

And I have no idea what to predict. I'd have thought that we actually matched up better opposing Little Brother, than the Buckeyes. But it's strange that way.

I think Posey coming back is a very big deal. I worry, a lot, about Herron having a huge game. I worry about mistakes and turnovers, where we've been incredibly lucky this year. Our offense is a mystery, apart from the good components assembled by Rich Rodriguez - the phenomenal Denard, ninja slot recievers that can hurt you without going deep, and a disciplined OL.

"Relief," and not triumphalism, will be the order of the day for me if and when we end the Dispatch's day-count.

Doc's picture

M Man, if the rest of your "Fan Base" were as level head and articulate as you you wouldn't get the bad name you do.  Most people I've heard from this week are acting like you have won the last 7 in a row.  Just like school in summer.

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M Man's picture

I'm actually going to savor this one.  This one is for the players.  They have put up with so much off-field weirdness, in both Ann Arbor and Columbus, for too long.  Just about all of the kids have nothing to do with any of that weirdness, and have just been working away the whole time.

This won't be about B1G tiebreakers, or athletic director votes, or newspaper stories or famous coaches and their controversies.

This is just about "the game" part of The Game.  How refreshing.

Denny's picture

Why would you want to savor a loss.


faux_maestro's picture

I suppose you thought you would savor '01.

And '02.

And '04.

And '05

And '06.

(I didn't include after that was pretty much over after '06.)

Your mom told me she wants a Dicken Cidar.

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

M fans should be worried about Herron and Miller flat out running on fools, but I just don't see our D matching up with M players in space.  Factor in awful play calling when we have the ball and it's a recipe for a loooong game with lots of loooong runs from Lil Wayne Denard.  I will say that M has the better chance to play tight.  Unfortunately that is the only hope I see.

Buck_Michigan's picture

On paper the Buckeyes should definitely lose this one...however, I think that we may have a glimmer of hope.  First of all, no one wants to win this one more than Fickell.  Fickell may hold the record for consecutive starts as a player as tOSU but he never beat UM.  I gotta believe he is chomping at the bit to destroy UM - not to mention that OSU handing UM a lose all but screws UM out of a BCS bid.  How many times in the 90's did UM ruin our chances of playing the Rose Bowl or vying for the National Championship?  I can tell you it was more than once...I used to curse Cooper for his lack of being able to seal the deal with beating UM.  I hated that feeling then and I don't want to remember how it feels. 

Fickell also knows the importance of what beating michigan means.  Tressel knew what it meant and Luke will surely ignite it importance.  Hell....imagine how fired up Vrabel will be.  We have the guys in place that should be able to motivate and enrage these players to beat michigan.  I want this to be a war, I want penalities, I want helmets flying off, I want Michigan to lose.  Odds are against the Bucks to win this one but it they work and work and keep coming after Michigan there's a chance. I just hope this team can come together and keep the streak alive.  If we can play inspired like we did against UW I think we can beat that team up north.

2012 Beat Michigan Tail gate:  UFM:  "Let’s beat the sh*t out of Michigan, have a good night."

onetwentyeight's picture

This all sounds awesome right up until we line up for the first offensive play of the game and then get a false start. 3rd and 20? PLAY ACTION! BOLLRUS BALL! 


Our expectations for how we want the Bucks to play and what sort of garbage the coaching staff is surely cooking up are in almost different universes. 

TheOtherDJ's picture

Actually, LF earned his lone pair of Gold Pants as a player in 1994 (22-6) senior year at tOSU.  Had a class or two with him as well...good guy even then.

BoFuquel's picture

It's beat TSUN week. GO BUCKS!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Scott's picture

We were shocked against Nebraska. We were shocked against Wisconsin.

While our coaches have seemed inept and our players have seemed lost in games we knew we should have won, we have seen something different when people counted us out. Our coaches had effective gameplans. Our young team played like veterans. This team has a lot of weaknesses, but the coaches and players have proven that they have the ability to play determined, dominating football when no one else thinks they can.

I'm looking forward to Saturday. Go Bucks.

Class of 2008

Idot08bojangles's picture

It seems like this team, more than any other in recent Ohio State history, has a habit of playing to the talent level of our competition. We seem to play really well against the 'good teams', and really poorly against the 'bad teams'. That being said, M*ch*gan is a 'good team', and hopefully we play that way...


Scarlet and Grey until the day I die.
idotter: September 27, 2008. OSU vs. Minnesota

mike78's picture

The set up for this game reminds me alot of 1987.  Star player suspended before the season, bolts to the supplemental draft.  Dissappointing season, worst record in over a decade.  A coach who knows its his last game goes to Ann Arbor.

Menexenus's picture

Ohio State-Michigan means everything.

...the one game.  The only game.

Darn straight!  This is it, folks.  All you hand-wringers and pessimists can stay quiet for the next week, because we are going up to Ann Arbor to WIN!  If this team can beat Wisconsin, they can beat the stinkin' Wolverines!  Fickell feels it in his bones, and he's going to make sure his players feel it, too.  Count on it!

Go Bucks!!!!  Beat TTUN!!!!!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Borrowing a play from Dantonio's playbook.

The most unnerved I've seen the Wolverines this year was against the Spartans. UM fans can complain but the Spartans intensity took Mich out of that game.

If Fickell can be get the Buckeyes to be hyper-aggressive -- throw the Wolverines off of their gameplan. Also if the ST gives us some breaks. And the DL is able to force some turnovers. We have a chance to come out of AA with a win.


Jason Priestas's picture

Awesome find. Imma tweet that.

BuckeyeChief's picture

I hope against all hope the players are caring Fickell off on their shoulders Saturday.

After being gone for weeks, flying in for Thanksgiving, and flying right back, my oldest daughter told me the biggest think she wants to do is watch "The Game" with me. I've missed her birthday, Halloween, and a had to step down as her soccer coach, and the biggest thing in her mind is watching it with me.


Go Bucks!

"2014 National with it!!!"

faux_maestro's picture

Great story man. Sorry you had to miss all that with your kid but at least she has her priorities straight :)


P.S. Who else thinks we need to break out some "FICKELL" headbands. We are undefeated with the outgoing coach headbands I believe.

Your mom told me she wants a Dicken Cidar.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Thanks, bro...someone has to do it, ya know?

"2014 National with it!!!"

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

I hope and pray my little girl (2 yr old) wants to watch The Game with me someday. Nothing would make me happier. You are a lucky man, Chief.

BuckeyeChief's picture

November 24, 2001 I had her in her walker next to me the whole game, as a baby...hooked ever since.

"2014 National with it!!!"

bucknut3011's picture

Neither of my kids can recall a loss to M#$@!.  How wonderful is that? 

Come on Bucks, let's make it 8 in a row.  That's right.... 8!  I watched an ass-kicking last year -- no way that didn't happen.

mike78's picture

nice. My dad made me the rabid OSU fan I am today.  As much as I love Thanksgiving and spending time with the whole family, my favorite part of Thanksgiving week always involves a turkey and stuffing sandwich, a beer, and watching "The Game" with my dad.  

cbusbuckeye's picture

Not to be "that guy" but the game wasnt moved to after thansgiving until last year, so unless your family has turkey a week early there were no sandwiches...

BuckeyeChief's picture

It has happened a few times before.

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Hoody Wayes's picture

Yeah - both - turkey after The Game and CBUSBUCKEYE morphing into "That Guy", no dout.

mike78's picture

It's not always after Thanksgiving, hell it may be before Thanksgiving more often than not. Thats the memory that sticks with me over the years though.

BuckeyeChief's picture

For some reason I'll always remember the Benedict Howard game during a Thanksgiving visit to family in Brooklyn.

I'll always remember a few years later going up for Christmas and having my uncle (He knew I went to HS with Terry Glenn) asking what was wrong with him for running his mouth.

"2014 National with it!!!"

mike78's picture

I distinctly remember Biakabutuka ruining a Thanksgiving as well.

BuckeyeChief's picture

I was supposed to go to that game...Anthony Gwinn was gonna give me tickets, but I had to work, figured I'd go in '96, but BADA BOOM BADA BING i'm in San Diego for that game. I remember when the opening kickoff got taken down inside the 5...I basically said, welp, that's ballgame.

I walked past the galley on base and every person I knew on base was standing in the window waiting for me to walk by. To make matters worse, my room mate was also an OSU drop out, and our answering machine message contained "1996 National Champions"...smh.

"2014 National with it!!!"

Hoody Wayes's picture

THATGUYBUCKEYE suits'ya better.

cbusbuckeye's picture

Thanks! I'll have to see if it's available lol

Hoody Wayes's picture

It'd be a cool tee-shirt.

Idot08bojangles's picture

Scarlet and Grey until the day I die.
idotter: September 27, 2008. OSU vs. Minnesota

The Braden's picture

Well done!  Go Bucks!  Michigan sucks!

BuckeyeChief's picture

"2014 National with it!!!"

poguemahone's picture

Not enough nerd in this thread.'s picture

Headed up to my 29th OSU-m game this weekend. Despite seeing all of JT's wins except for last year, we are 15-12-1 in the games I have seen. 

Buckeye Chuck's picture

There's a blog I won't be bothering with any more. What an imbecile.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

onetwentyeight's picture

that just raised my blood pressure ...


a lot. 


One down year by us and they act like the next decade is theirs. OKAY WE GET IT you beat a shitty UF team that had Tim Tebow and nobody else on it that one year during Lloyd's last game. Go touch yourself some more. Doesn't mean you can make the logical leap to "this means we will always beat Meyer, anytime we play". Hell, the coaches on the UM team are TWO staffS removed from their current one. 



GoBlu's picture

Meyer was not a great coach... His defense(Mattison) won him two national championships. His gators toward the end were mediocre teams at best so He jumped ship.

Maestro's picture

uhh, Charlie Strong you mean?

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biggy84's picture

Mattison was so great that he was going to be fired in Baltimore. He inherited a team and scheme designed by Rex Ryan and ran it into the ground. Ray Lewis said that they are now back to playing their way again. Look at the stats brainiac.


Tscum is very fortunate that their schedule was very easy this year. They didn't have to play Wisky or Penn St, two teams that would have taken them to the wood shed! They got punked by Sparty and Iowa, 2 teams that have actual defenses. Denard can't finish a game when she gets hurt either. f_ck tsun and their M__ man who is actually an Ohio reject!!!!

faux_maestro's picture

I'm sure plenty of people around here thought that we had a real winner and Michigan slayer in one J. Cooper because he beat them in one Rose Bowl. Anyone remember how that worked out?

Your mom told me she wants a Dicken Cidar.

biggy84's picture

How many national championships did Cooper bring with him when he came?

faux_maestro's picture

Doesn't matter. The point is that a lot of people thought Coop had the magic touch against Michigan because he beat them once. Now they think Urbz is nothing special because they beat him a couple times.

Your mom told me she wants a Dicken Cidar.

M tots's picture

I don't understand how after 10 years of dominance (only 1 loss and 7 straight wins which are still yet to be broken), they feel like they own us.  Yes, they are having a better year and are favored heading into the game. But they're acting like they're guaranteed a decade of dominance of their own! Hello, you still haven't even won this year's game yet?  

cbusbuckeye's picture

Its exactly this kind of "we're better than you"* arrogance that makes me hate them so much


*even though we have done absolutely nothing to earn it

argyle182021's picture

I browsed a few of the comments from this mgoblog post.  My favorite was someone saying that Meyer would only recruit FL and that would allow TSUN to continue owning the state of OH as far as recruiting.

I know there are plenty of irrational Buckeye fans and probably even a few on this site, but that is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.  

M Man's picture

Even the MGoCommenters didn't like that guy's rant.  I gave up after parargraph 3.

Sgt. Elias's picture

Obligatory. Especially this year.

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

BuckeyeChief's picture

Any chance LT and Jim Brown can suit up for us this week?

"2014 National with it!!!"

BuckeyeChris's picture

Recruiting question...don't Washington and Stanford announce tomorrow? 


blazers34's picture

tomorrow night at 730 I believe

Colin's picture

Saw on Twitter that it is apparently tomorrow morning at 10:00 AM.

blazers34's picture

thats awesome, thanks.  i misread one of the tweets.  it was about their bball game.

GoBlu's picture

Dunn to Michigan.... UM beats OSU... The making of a horrendous week for you guys...

TLB's picture

A horrendous season which we are not used to, unlike you, will end on a high note.  Stop trolling.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Don't feed the troll. I know he comes on year randomly for a year or so, but still a troll.

"2014 National with it!!!"

BuckeyeChief's picture

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onetwentyeight's picture

Oh and as to the whole "Ohio" thing they're doing that they think is so cute and sh!t ...


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Buck_Michigan's picture

I love the whole "ohio" thing. Wtf Hoke? Quit trying to be like Woody. As in "that team up north". The best fatty could come up with was real creative.

2012 Beat Michigan Tail gate:  UFM:  "Let’s beat the sh*t out of Michigan, have a good night."

Tonga Buckeye's picture

Even though this year has been dysfunctional, as far as OSU football goes,  I'm trying to be optomistic about saturday's game.

Our lossess in the BIG to MSU, NEB, PER, and PSU have only been by 19 total points, and then the win over WIS!  (msu-neb-psu top 25 teams)

This is rivalry week!  OSU and tsun.  I'm still going to pace the floor, have shortness of breath, think bad thoughts, curse the refs, and HATE the maze and blue with a passion.  This is a week talked about all year!  I'm not allowing "dysfunction" ruin my week.  GO BUCKS!

"go not where the path may lead, rather go where there is no path and leave a trail"

Buck_Michigan's picture

I O!

2012 Beat Michigan Tail gate:  UFM:  "Let’s beat the sh*t out of Michigan, have a good night."

buckeyepastor's picture

I know a couple of weeks ago, he missed broadcasting a game because his father had died.  May be choosing to take care of some things with that to get away from all the attention and rumors.   I'd like to think that he voluntarily yanked himself from working this one out of respect for keeping focus on the game.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

pasadenabuck's picture

F#ck Michigan. I hate those douchebags.


A fool and his money are soon parted.I would pay anyone a lot of money to explain that to me. -Homer Simpson

TatumRuled's picture

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

What the Fickell's picture

We all know his type....the guy who chooses Michigan when he lives in Buckeye country. I grew up about 8 miles from Kettering where Brady Bunch grew up. He's the guy who orders the wine cooler when all the guys are together drinking beers. My grandmother would occasionally say Michigan when she meant Michigan State. Wonder if he will start calling us Ohio "State" after we beat him this year.

Brady Hoke wears scarlet undies.

BuckeyeChris's picture

How about "OHIO" head bands for the team this week, ala the "EARLE" head bands of 1987?

faux_maestro's picture

like it

Your mom told me she wants a Dicken Cidar.