Yahoo! Source: Jim Tressel Knew

By Luke on March 7, 2011 at 8:13p
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Per an anonymous source's account to Charles Robinson and Dan Wetzel, Ohio State coach Jim Tressel knew about Ohio State players' reallocation of memorabalia some eight months before he and the university professed he did back in December:

According to a source, a concerned party reached out to Tressel last April, alerting the coach that memorabilia transactions had taken place between Rife and a handful of Buckeyes players, including Pryor. The selling of items violates NCAA eligibility rules. The source said Tressel was troubled by the information, and the coach indicated that he would investigate the matter and take appropriate action.

Whether the coach initiated an investigation of the accusation is unclear, but all five players remained on the field in the coming months, playing out the 2010 regular season.

Smoke? Fire? Kirk Herbstreit owns a phone, no? While much remains to be seen whether this will materialize into anything substantive, we remain a long way from that point with but one faceless source attached to a rather bold claim and the NCAA's burden of proof and likely much digging still necessary before we're looking at a Bruce Pearl sort of scenario.

 

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Denny's picture

I still am trying to figure out how a gate can be made of tattoos.

Taquitos.

Luke's picture

YAHSECOO! WITH THEIR SHAMELESS BIAS. WHEN WILL THEY START SPEAKING WITH INTEGRITY INSTEAD OF THEIR POCKET BOOKS?

Denny's picture

I DON'T TAKE NEWS SERIOUSLY FROM 'PUBLICATIONS' WITH EXCLAMMY MARKS IN THEM.

WHY ARE WE YELLING.

Taquitos.

COB's picture

You know the answer here, Luke.    Yahoo! are clearly "haters".  The only plausible explanation. 

Buckeye Black's picture

Is this really news? I mean, don't you think Ohio State did an internal investigation first, then told the NCAA.  Then they came down with the suspensions.  The whole reason the suspensions are 5 games instead of 4 is because they were not forthcoming immediately after learning there were violations.

Luke's picture

Based on Coach Tressel and Athletic Director Smith's press conference, we have no reason to believe what they reported publicly wasn't what they reported to the NCAA. If it proves that they lied to either or both parties, it's a bevy of NCAA violations. It'd also represent a pretty sizeable hit on the persona and public image Jim Tressel has spent the last several decades defining.

ERIC OSU's picture

The Ohio State internal investigation was launched between Dec 9-15 according to Theozone.net, not in April... here is a timeline link they posted when news first broke.

http://www.the-ozone.net/football/2010/SugarBowl/NCAAtimeline.htm

 

Alex's picture

Everyone take a deep breath and relax. This story isn't backed up with much merit. If he knew, he knew and I can't blame him for trying to protect the program. I'm not saying it's morally like Tress or that he won't look bad after the way he said it was poor judgement on the player's parts, but this is not the end of the world. Coaches have been caught doing far worse and the worst that can come of this isn't the end of the world. Just relax as this will be really hard to prove. And if this turns out to be complete BS.....god have mercy on what OSU will do to these Yahoo dudes.

njc2o's picture

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Luke's picture

If Ohio State tells the NCAA that, I'm not really sure how they're going to be able to corroborate who knew what when, particularly if the entire strength of the case is a single individual.

Rooster Buckburn's picture

Come on now -  "a concerned party reached out to Tressel" - for all we know (if this even happened) this could have been some anonymous dirt bag caller whom Tressel should have ignored (if indeed he did). 

Jason Priestas's picture

IF... big IF... Yahoo! is holding emails or something concrete, this could be trouble. Otherwise, it's going to be damn near impossible to prove Tressel was aware of this way back in April.

blazers34's picture

yeah, and these are very good reporters we're talking about.  I have a hard time believing that they reported this on just an unnamed source.  This has me very concerned

Jeff @ Fox Sports Ohio's picture

If you rearrange the letters of "concerned party", you spell "Tab Bamford".

Maestro's picture

Not that it's the defense that I want to come forth, but unless there is an email exchange with some serious specifics I don't know that this can really be proven.

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ERIC OSU's picture

there isnt and im guessing Yahoo! doesnt have any first-hand proof or else it would have been presented in the article... Maybe Yahoo! created the article with the intent to possibly get a confession out of the Vest? Just speculating

My guess is the only way that it can be proven is IF this was what happened, and the article presented by Yahoo! would strike The Vest's consciense enough to end the lying and confess.  I mean IF this is true, you think Tressel could live the rest of his life with the only knowledge he lied about this??? We all know the man that Jim is, he's a good person (not like Kiffen or Saban etc.), I just dont feel he would continue to lie about this IF it was true.

I guess we'll all know tomorrow or whenever he addresses this....

Maestro's picture

Agree totally.  I can't imagine that if he knew about it in April he would have been able to deal with it on his conscience for the past year.  That doesn't mean that he didn't hear rumors, as I would imagine he hears plenty of those.

I look forward to hearing from Tressel himself.

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Jason Priestas's picture

I just don't know how you can file this report, assailing one of the most respected men in college football without some sort of proof in hand, or at the very minimum, what they believe to be solid proof.

741's picture

Many of us where loving these Yahoo! cats when they broke the story on USC... The shoe may be on the other foot if there is even a sliver of truth to this unnamed source's story.

That said, I am in the camp that believes Tressel would not lie or cheat.

TLB's picture

Tress is not one to hide these things.   He would have gone to the AD as soon as he heard something.

btalbert25's picture

So.....Basically this report says absolutely nothing.  The transgressions themselves happened  a long time ago.  If he heard it in April or not who cares.  The only way it's an issue is if they weren't honest with the NCAA.  Even at that, just because it's the first time he heard about it, if he approached the players and they lied to him.  I don't think they are really breaking any major news here.  Seems like the NCAA has some more pressing items and schools like Oregon, Auburn, Tennessee, and possibly others with connection to the "recruiting service" are in line ahead of Ohio State to get dong punched by the NCAA. 

I'm not bashing Yahoo! for poor journalism, I just don't know that they are really breaking a story here.  It's fair to assume that Tressel gets all kind of information both positive and negative about his players every day from all kinds of sources.  We just really don't know much about the situation. 

Uncle_Buck's picture

Some good tweets going off from players and former players check it out.

Uncle_Buck's picture

TonyGerdeman‎ RT @JonThoma Jim Tressel is the best leader in the game. He makes every person around him better. And that's all I have to say about that.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Guess we'll have to wait and see, but the sum result of the reporters' exhaustive "two month investigation" was to find one anonymous source providing some hearsay. And given the reporters' fine reputations, I don't doubt that they really do have some guy who was willing to pass along something he claimed to have heard.  

Johnny Ginter's picture

this is pretty much the defining moment in tressel's career. if it's false, we can go back to loving him and respecting him as much as we always have. if it's true, welp, we got conned. simple as that.

blazers34's picture

i disagree a bit there. his reputation may be a bit sullied from a national standpoint, but I will still respect him and will not feel conned at all.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Agreed. Every coach in FBS football cheats according to the NCAA rulebook. I'm very confident in that statement.

Tressel is a great man and a hero to many (including me), regardless of what comes out of this.

Johnny Ginter's picture

i dunno man, he said in december that he knew nothing about this until recently. if that ends up being a lie, that is pretty damning as far as his character goes. lying and arrgoance are two things that i find really hard to forgive, and if true, tressel is going to have to go a long way to restore my faith in him.

with that said, as much as i can't believe that wetzel would risk his career over a flawed report, i similarly can't believe that tressel would risk HIS career by doing something so monumentally stupid. i have zero idea how this is all going to play out.

JakeBuckeye's picture

I see what you're saying, but did he say that? He may of, but I thought that was Gene Smith. This may have been a case of keeping queit rather than lying if true.

ERIC OSU's picture

and keeping quiet about something this big is the trait of an ethical person? So, if you see someone getting mugged in the streets its the right thing to just turn your shoulder to the situation and pretend you never saw it?

JakeBuckeye's picture

Well if we are making semi-irrational comparisons then I will compare the NCAA to a corrupt government. A citizen isn't necessarily unethical if he doesn't follow all of said corrupt government's rules and laws.

JakeBuckeye's picture

I don't want to be talking like these are true, on second thought. Tress is innocent as of now in my opinion.

Johnny Ginter's picture

keeping quiet is functionally the same as lying in this case. he has an obligation to report any misconduct by his players, and not doing so would be a huuugggeeee violation.

again, personally i find it incredibly hard to believe that tressel would knowingly commit such a violation. he would have to have known the risk involved. but again, yahoo sports is a legit operation, and whoever their source is has got to be somebody legitimate enough for the reporters here to stake their own reputations on.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Oh, I know it'd be a huge violation, I was just arguing from the ethics side.

Johnny Ginter's picture

even ethically i don't see how it's defensible. if he knew about a violation that would cause star players to be inelligible and didn't say anything, i can't think of anything that would ever justify that. that would be cutthroat coaching at its worst.

Pam's picture

It would be the greatest acting job since Sir Lawrence Olivier played Othello. 

JakeBuckeye's picture

Eh, I know I should be, but I'm not concerned here.

Bucks's picture

I have to just look at this logically.

As the article says, Jim Tressel has been a head coach for 25 years, 10 here at tOSU. The thought to me that someone who has seen as much as he has during his tenure, would then sit on or not report/lie regarding information received is laughable to me.

While yes, this would be a big deal as far as punishment if true ... IF is the big word here. I would be astounded. There are many coaches I could see this easily from. While some of Vestie is certainly facade, the core of what is presented is true.

 

Bluntly stated, he isn't that damn stupid.

Natty Light's picture

if he knew in april, tress would have made them return the money immediately.  possibly with the hope they would not be punished for making a mistake but then correcting it and coming forward about it.   

Joe Beale's picture

I just checked and there's nothing about this story on ESPN's CFB front page.  Who would have believed that 11W would jump on a negative story about OSU before the boys in Bristol said anything about it?  I'm not criticizing anyone, just making note for historical reference.

ERIC OSU's picture

correct, it isnt on the CFB homepage, but it has been on the ESPN main page for about 20ish minutes now.

Joe Beale's picture

Regardless, we still scooped them.

Carolina Buckeye's picture

As said before, "2 month exhaustive investigation...YIELDS one anonymous source.

 

I am not even getting in to hypotheticals or what ifs. This is busch league.  All I have to say is...

Once upon a time, a (it pains me to say this) a much more credible sports journalism site than Yahoo! attempted to throw tOSU and Tressel under the bus, stopping just short of calling him a mafia boss...

here is the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1920867

And what came of it???   ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! Remember..EVERY SINGLE ACCUSATION THAT MAURICE CLARETT MADE ABOUT OSU AND TRESSEL WAS 100% UNFOUNDED ABSOLUTELY FALSE.

I can't believe I am even wasting my time responding to these accusations.  Jim Tressel is class, Ohio State is class, Gene Smith is class.  They did not hide from these accusations like U$C and Auburn, they spearheaded them and pleaded for lienancy, that IS why the players were allowed to play.

Yahoo! can go to hell, but you know what, when YOU ARE THE BEST, people are envious, people are jealous.

 

As an alum of The Ohio State University, as a former employee of the Athletic Department , one who saw the inner workings of a program in season and out...

I love Jim Tressel, I love Ohio State and I love ALL of the HATE....

 

To steal a quote from one of my favorite jackasses,...DEAL WITH IT!

Maestro's picture

That is comforting coming from someone who has seen things from inside the athletic dept.

I have bought in completely to the stance that Jim Tressel is a good person above all else.  Sure even good people have their faults, but I just am not buying that he would cover this up.

I sure hope I have not been fleeced.

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Pam's picture

I am sitting here with tears running down my face.  Even if this is nothing, it is taking away attention from our #1 basketball team which is terribly unfair.  If there is something to it, I am heartbroken to think that JT would do something like this, it is just so out of what we have come to believe for 10 years, is his character.  I can't imagaine Ohio St. football with out Jim Tressel.  I wish I didn't care this much, but I do and that is why it hurts. I am praying for a good outcome. 

Carolina Buckeye's picture

You are either the most gulliable person in the world or THE worst Ohio State fan to walk the earth...take you choice but neither is good

JakeBuckeye's picture

Pam is one of the most respected people on here. She's an awesome Ohio State fan, better than you will ever be.

Carolina Buckeye's picture

Certainly, she dedicated years of her life to the athletic program as I did, regardless my comment was harsh, and I apologize for that.  As I stated below though.  I am almost more disgusted by "fans" reactions to this busch league article than I am at the article in the first place.

 

Pam, I truly apologize, my comment was wrong. Buckeyes need to unite not be divided and I'll only contribute to the problem with comments like that.  Please have faith in Tress and the program.  These articles are nothing but pure dookie.  Rest easy knowing we have a leader full of class, integrity and morals.  My apologies agian.

 

GO BUCKS!

Pam's picture

Apology accepted.  My reaction was based solely on the fact that there is an accuastion to begin with.  Especially now, when our #1 BB team should be getting all the attention.  We all know how the Clarett accuasations have haunted tOSU to this day.  Even the NCAA cleariing them it did little to change some folks minds about Tressel and the AD.  I am not gulliable at all, I am just saddened that any talk of wrong doing is never good regardless of the final outcome.  That was what I was reacting to. 

Carolina Buckeye's picture

Can't say sorry enough, it was misguided hate of the worst kind and I feel terrible for saying it.  You're spot on and I am sorry for it.  Didn't mean to attack a true buckeye and if a moderator will see my apologies and atone for my mistake i'd be forever grateful.  That being said, I hope buckeye fans will brush this off and support our leader unless something more comes of it.

When you are at the top for as long as Ohio State and Jim Tressel have been, it is hard for the rest of the college football world and subsequent media to believe that we truly do have one of the true, genuine, morally right leaders on our sideline and we are the best.

Pam's picture

Thank you Jake.  You know I bleed S&G

Pam's picture

Why?  Because I don't like even the suggestion that someone who I respect and admire as much as I do Jim Tressel could have done something like this?  How does that make me a bad fan?  I don't know who you are, but my fandom has never been questioned here before and for good reason. Don't make comments about me when you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 

buckeyedude's picture

I think CarolinaBuckeye is out of line Pam, but I don't believe it's time for crying. Deep breath. Everybody.

 

 

Bucks's picture

This will probably bring that one "journalist" back into the fray who claimed JT was stepping down as head coach around the end of December mark.

I'm sure he'll claim this story is the reason why.

 

 

No point in getting worked up. Don't think there is much chance of it.

Hoody Wayes's picture

One thing is certain, you had that "Uh oh"-feeling, when you first caught a glimpse of this story.

Can't wait for tomorrow to be, "another day."

Carolina Buckeye's picture

To add to it...do you really think Ohio State would be SO brazen to APPEAL the suspensions IF they KNEW in APRIL the VIOLATIONS were committed...

 

GET F'IN REAL...ALMOST AS DISGUSTING AS YAHOO! IS ALL OF YOU SUPOSED "BUCKEYE FANS" QUESTIONING OUR LEADER...

IF YOU AREN'T WITH TRESS GO CHEER FOR THAT TEAM UP NORTH...HE IS PURE CLASS THROUGH AND THROUGH

Johnny Ginter's picture

you actually make a pretty good point here, but just because people are concerned about this due to the potential consequences and the fact that yahoo sports is a solid organization doesn't mean that they are horrible people, or worse, michigan fans.

a lot of writers and other journalists i really respect think this could have some validity. i'm not going to dismiss them out of hand, as much as i would like to.

Carolina Buckeye's picture

I'm sorry, I just look at 11W as a soft landing spot in times like these and it riles me up when I see our fan base question Tress. We've been down this road before, much more seriously.  The NCAA spent the better part of 2 years on campus 2003-05. I am amazed we didn't build a new hall in their honor.  The program came out squeeky clean football wise, minus Troy's $500 Michigan payment, which we self reported. 

This just goes against evertyhing that I think Tressel is about.  I understand that is some level of "dirty" that goes on at Ohio State, but this is just something so unfathomable it is ridiculous.

 

 Johnny, mark my words, if this is true, it will cost Tressel his job, and it will shake my sports foundations to the very core.  I might never watch a sporting event again.

And I will apologize profusely time and again to each and every one of you before signing off for good

Johnny Ginter's picture

nah dude, you've apologized enough, you're fine, and i know how you feel. and like you said, the implications here are huge, not just for OSU sports, but for the fans and how they see the program. it could be very rough for us here.

anyway, i've got skull session duties tomorow morning and i'll try and address it a little more at length then.

Bucks's picture

Carolina, I don't think I have seen hardly anyone on here claiming this to be true ... seems more everyone doubts it highly.

 

Past that, this is a discussion site for our beloved team and the goings on so quit deciding what people can or cannot say. If you don't like someone's opinion, don't read them further!

 

Pam, very premature to be so upset. It's an accusation from one source. If there is something concrete there, so be it. The chances of that are very small though.

Carolina Buckeye's picture

Agree completely, I attempted to make ammends above.  Didn't mean to hate, just upset that doubt even exists with Tressel.  My comment was absurd and wrong, wish I could hit the delete button but I can't.

I just hope the fan base will support Tress and laugh at these elementary articles

Pam's picture

As I mentioned to Carolina B, I am upset that there is even an accuasaton.  The timing is awful and I feel horrible for JT.  That's all. 

btalbert25's picture

Some of the crap I'm reading is really pissing me off.  The high and mighty attitude here is ridiculous.  If he lied, which I don't think he did, but if he did it's one mistake.  It proves the man is human.  I think most of us in our lives and jobs have had moments where we have acted totally out of character and yet we aren't defined by that transgression.  I treat people well, am a very honest guy, yet I fall short of the mark now and then.  It happens. And please save the role model excuses too.  I have seen my parents, grandparents, ministers, teachers, and coaches all make mistakes before.  It didn't mean they weren't still great role models with strong character.  

Here's a FACT, Tressel has created an Ohio State Family, which all fans, players, students, faculty are a part of.  He does treat his kids like they are family.  He does teach them to be better men.  He does take time to reach out to fans during the season when he is busy as hell.  There are countless examples of times where he has reached out to kids, sick fans, people on this very site.  He takes the time to write to these individuals and create good will.  He respects the military and demands his team does the same.  He is a class act, and if he did make a mistake here, well join the club.  If you are Christlike and have never made a mistake, then please keep judging.   I'll still admire the guy, because he has done way more good in 10 years than bad, even if something comes out of this story.  

William's picture

Completely agree. This report is ridiculous. An anonymous source? Is Yahoo run by a bunch of twelve year olds that don't have the balls to provide where they received the information from? I don't understand all the sudden statements about Tressel's character being in doubt, as far as I'm concerned he's innocent till proven guilty and even then, no one is perfect and there is no one else I would rather have coaching The Ohio State Buckeyes right now.

btalbert25's picture

I'm not trying to attack anyone's personal views, but many of our heroes in sport, history, and personal lives weren't always the greatest people in general.  We love certain figures and only remember the good with nostalgia.  People are willing to look past huge character flaws and romanticize their heroes. 

btalbert25's picture

We all thought the Tat 5 story when it first broke was BS too.  Is there something here?  Maybe.  I just hate the character assasination because of one rumor from a concerned party.  It's just impossible to know what's true without something concrete. 

Dean's picture

The completely anonymous source makes me wonder - the more I think about it, the sketchier it sounds.  Not even a source "close to the matter" or "with knowledge of the matter," just "a source," with no additional description to bolster the source's credibility.  This will almost undoubtedly get ugly, but I'd be shocked if they have much of anything credible to back this up.

Carolina Buckeye's picture

Said what I was trying to, without the vitrol, well done, wish I had the touch like you in time of distress

Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

You know, one of the beautiful things about math is there is only one answer thats right.  2+2 ALWAYS equals 4.   And no matter how  many numbers and types of operations...there still is only one answer.

My point is that none of this adds up.

The only reasonable scenario is that Tressel either didn't consider this scource as credible and therefore felt no need to report a fact that he deemed untrue...or this, like the resignation story, is just pure bullshit.  

There are so many things that come out of the anarchy that is the internet that, until there are FACTS...it doesn't exist.

On the wall guarding the North Coast from all Weasel invasions.

Natty Light's picture

x^2 = 4

 

x=2 or -2

 

mind = blown

Luke's picture

This made me laugh so hard. Well played.

Maestro's picture

Nothing like a good unnamed source to create buzz though.  Certainly Yahoo will get plenty of hits from this story.

 

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Brutus's picture

I posted something last week in response to the Cowherd report. It turns out that the information was valid, but just not for that particular story. Anyway, long story short, I was aware that the university had hired an attorney back in December to deal with an NCAA infractions issue. This was separate from the Tatfive scandal and dealt specifically with Tressel. That's the extent of the information I had. I thought that this was perhaps related to the Cowherd report, but that's obviously not the case. Whoever the university hired in December was directly in response to the allegations made in the Yahoo report.

I'm not making too much of the fact that the university hired a third party back in December to deal with this. That's to be expected. I would want the university to hire an army of attorneys to investigate any potential wrong doing, especially when Tressel's integrity is called into question. I'm not in complete panic mode just yet because as has been stated numerous times above, I just find it incredibly hard to believe that JT would lie or intentionally withhold information. However, I would also caution against completely dismissing the Yahoo report because it comes from an anonymous source. Anonymous or not, the university thought enough about the allegations to hire someone to deal with this. I'm sure there are countless allegations that come out during the course of the year and not all are dealt with with the attention the university is giving this. The anonymous source could indeed be very credible, but that doesn't mean that he/she knows exactly when Tressel knew for sure. I'm going to give JT the benefit of the doubt because to do differently at this point would be to question all that I've grown to admire about the man. I remain cautiously optimistic that there is a good explanation to all this and that JT will be vindicated.

Jason Priestas's picture

I remember the original comment. Thanks for sharing it.

Maestro's picture

According to a source (one person), a concerned party (a different person).

So the source isn't even the person who allegedly spoke to Tressel? 

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Colin's picture

I hate to be the unbiased/negative nancy here but, in seriousness just about every major sports news scandal starts out with "anonymous sources," simply because the people who give these facts don't want to be known at the time. Many of them turn out to be true, so this one may be legit or not but we can't just discount it because they are anonymous. 

I don't find this story likely, but I find it very possible simply because Tressel knows no one would suspect that he would lie about something like this.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Again, as of now, the actual "news" reporting in the Yahoo story boils down to one freakin' sentence: "According to a source, a concerned party reached out to Tressel last April, alerting the coach that memorabilia transactions had taken place between Rife and a handful of Buckeyes players, including Pryor."

The rest of the story is ALL context and/or filler, which has no additional news value. A good, hard-hitting news piece usually consists of more than one sentence of actual news. Maybe they'll come up with more, and this is just a teaser, but then that means Yahoo released an ostensibly "big story" padded almost entirely with filler to pique people's interest? Nice "journalism" either way.

And we love the work the 11W gang do for us, but the crew here naturally tends to be a wee bit more sympathetic toward the media hacks than many of us inkless-fingered wretches. Jason Blair was a respected reporter, too. I'll take my chances with JT over these Yahoo-based one sentence wonders, thank you.   

JakeBuckeye's picture

If all else fails, we have the best damn basketball team in the country.

Just saying.

Jason Priestas's picture

Yeah, it's a shame that people will be talking football all week when we have a team for the ages getting ready to play some tournament ball.

Love the avatar, btw.

JakeBuckeye's picture

I won't be the "holier than thou" dude who claims his full focus will be on the basketball team in wake of all this, but I'm definitley going to enjoy this weekend and beyond regardless of what comes out of this.

But really, its just Thad and the basketball program's luck. Pretty bad timing if there is ever good timing for anything like this.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Penn State fans honestly crack me up. And I say that as a person whom they used to piss off. They're just comical now, though.

Bad about Penn State: Bad journalism (always)

Bad about Ohio State: Great journalism/heros

madhatterhater's picture

Do u think ESPN will do a 30 for 30 on this.

go bucks

nickma71's picture

This is as fake of a story as the Oregon story. Or worse yet, Scooter Libbey and Valerie Plame. Remember that one? You might not know the story. The prosecutor found out two weeks into his investigation that State Department under Richard Armitage leaked info because he wanted to be the go to guy. Bigmouth. Yet Fitzgerald put people from the Bush administration on the stand for two more years trying to get somebody to contradict and eventualy they found it when somebody didn't remember the same thing from several years ago. It is a fake scandal and fake investigation.

Yeah, I could be a little concerned, they are out to get him and smear his name.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Calm down everybody...The tipster was a "Fake ass Buckeye" who just tried to smear more dirt on the program. Phone records indicate he called from Tennesee.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

The_Lurker's picture

As a former journalist, it pains me to see a news organization allow a story to be published without a backup source. Anywhere I've ever worked, management required a source to either be named, be a source with inside knowledge of the program (as opposed to just "a source") or be corroborated by a second source. This is unfortunately what passes for journalism in the Twitter age.

That said, while it's certainly possible this story has legs, I have doubts. For one, it just makes no sense for Tressel to put off the punishment. Arguably, it's so much better for Ohio State if the scandal comes out before the 2010 season, because you've got a veteran defense, a veteran offensive line and a quarterback-friendly senior wide receiver to help hold down the fort. Plus the Miami game is at home instead of on the road. Tressel's not stupid. He knows the penalties for this type of infraction. It just doesn't make sense to me. And even if it's true, I would think it would be pretty difficult to prove unless the "concerned party" recorded the phone call. Also, how easy is it to get Tress on the phone? If I call and say I'm a concerned party, will he take my call? :)

RoweTrain's picture

http://www.amazon.com/Winners-Manual-Game-Life/dp/1414325703/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299590105&sr=8-1

If the story is untrue, see above.

If the story is true, someone needs to add another chapter to their book.

RoweTrain's picture

For the record, I do not believe it. 

Hoody Wayes's picture

From Deadspin:

"Yahoo Sports is reporting a source that says Jim Tressel knew about his players selling memorabilia long before the school claims they were made aware of it. Have to quote Clay Travis in toto here: 'I love that the 12 man Yahoo Sports department is more effective at uncovering major violations than the entire NCAA.'"

Yahoo! Sports is getting banged because of its name. But, face it - its name is underscored by solid journalism. Yahoo! Sports broke the Reggie Bush story. 

Shock-G's picture

As some may know, I do some blogging at BuckeyeXtra during football season. People I talk to are abnormally quiet regarding this ... which leaves me slightly nervous.

That said, i agree with much of what's been said by the 11W crew here. For me, something substantive in terms of proof is going to have to come forward for me to feel this is the end all be all that it is.

Oh, and my refresh button on my internet browser is working OT today.

Hoody Wayes's picture

Yeah, but what's gotta happen...now, in fact...is for an official statement to be made. This "couldn't be reached for comment" shit, ain't gonna work. The story's over twelve hours old. It's almost lunch time, the day after. If they don't get on top of this, somebody'll put a clock on it - like the one marking the last time Michigan beat Ohio State, in football.

 

Hoody Wayes's picture

If there's nothing there, rip and read. Bury it. Put, the ball in "un-named source's" f-in corner!

Hoody Wayes's picture

Plus, gene Smith is the head of the NCAAM tournament selection committee. And when does that convene?

The clock is ticking...

ERIC OSU's picture

according to darren rovell, gene came back to campus today when he had some other obligations for the tournament committee so something has to come out soon you would think..

buckeyedude's picture

One way or the other, I hope this gets cleared up quickly and doesn't get dragged out for a looooong time. You see what happened at TSUN when the question of "who's going to be their coach," goes on and on. It kills recruiting.