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Preview: #12 Ohio State vs #13 Iowa

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Ohio State Buckeyes #12 Ohio State 8-2, 5-1 Big Ten Roster | Schedule 3:30 PM ET - ABC —— Ohio Stadium Columbus, OH Iowa Hawkeyes #13 Iowa 9-1, 5-1 Big Ten Roster | Schedule

A couple of weeks ago, these were two teams headed in very different directions, but with OSU coming off a big 24-7 road win at Penn State and the Hawkeyes suffering their first defeat of the season at the hands of Northwestern last week, things have flipped just a bit. Still, the Rose Bowl is on the line for both teams. The Buckeyes will be playing for their first trip to Pasadena in 13 years. For the Hawkeyes, it's even longer -- Iowa hasn't smelled the roses since 1991.

Not only did Kirk Ferentz's squad suffer their first loss of the season, but they also took a big blow off the field as starting quarterback Ricky Stanzi was forced to leave the game and miss the rest of the regular season with an ankle injury. In turn, little known red-shirt freshman James Vandenberg will lead Iowa into the Horseshoe for the 62nd meeting between the two teams, a series in which OSU holds a 44-14-3 advantage.

While a win gives the Buckeyes their fifth straight Big Ten title, Iowa has a chance to redeem last week's loss, and with wins against OSU this week and Minnesota next week, can still claim their shot at the title and the rewards that would bring. Ferentz has been to a BCS Bowl just once (2003 Orange Bowl) in his 14 years at the helm of the Iowa football program, and is certainly hungry for his a second trip.

In 2009 it looks like there will only be room for one Big Ten team in the BCS and this weekend's game will most likely determine who that team is. Will the Buckeyes do what no team has done before in winning 5 straight conference titles, or will the Hawkeyes play spoiler and put themselves in the driver's seat to take a shot at the Pac-10 in the Rose Bowl? Things certainly point in the Buckeyes' favor heading into the game, but college football is a crazy game and anything can happen on Saturdays.

Opponent

As previously mentioned, the Iowa offense took a huge hit this season with the loss of QB Ricky Stanzi last week and RB Adam Robinson earlier in the year. Even before those two went down with regular season ending injuries, the Iowa offense struggled early in games, only to launch 4th quarter comebacks powering the team to a 9-0 start.

Red-Shirt Freshman James Vandenberg will get his first career start and had some trouble in relief work against Northwestern last week. He threw for just 82 yards on 9/27 passing with 0 TDs and 1 INT, a performance that contributed to some lowlight film and was a big part of the downfall against the Wildcats. Vandenberg will face a much more talented defense than Pat Fiztgerald’s this week, but he will have a full week to prepare against the Silver Bullets.

Because of his inexperience against such a talented defense, look for Ferentz to employ RB Brandon Wegher into the game plan more to control the clock and limit any mistakes the young quarterback might make. Keeping the passing game simple, Ferentz will try and utilize recivers Derrell Johnson-Koulianos, Marvin McNutt (McNutt also has experience taking snaps, so don't be surprised...) and Trey Stross in short passing routes. Look for Iowa’s biggest weapon in the passing game, TE Tony Moeaki to try and use his size and athleticism to his advantage against the OSU linebackers and safeties.

What a nightmare for a Nittany Lion looks likeClayborn owned Penn State

On Defense, Iowa has been almost at dominant as Ohio State, allowing just 291.7 yards per game and leading the nation in interceptions with 19 as a team. As always, it all starts up front, and the Hawkeyes have a beast of a defensive end in Adrian Clayborn. Clayborn is, how do you say, hard to block, and will give both tackle spots a big challenge. If you watched the PSU-Iowa game earlier in the season, you saw how the junior from St. Louis is capable of dominating the game, and against an inconsistent OSU offensive line, he may have his way on Saturday.

At linebacker, Pat Angerer is second in the conference with 106 tackles and is very solid against the run. The Buckeyes did just fine against the group of Lee, Hull, and Bowman last week, a unit thought to be superior to Iowa’s, and it will be up to Angerer to help control the OSU run game. In the secondary, SS Tyler Sash leads the conference with 6 INTs and has returned one for a touchdown. He is the Hawkeye version of Kurt Coleman, so look for him to make some plays both against the run and the patented deep ball/arm put that TP has seemed to fall in love with the last few games. If Sash isn't enough to worry about, corner Amari Spievey is as good as they come in the Big Ten and will play the part of the rising DeVier Posey's first significant shutdown challenge.

On Special Teams, Iowa may indeed have the Big Ten’s most consistent kicker. Daniel Murray has come a long way since becoming a hero in last year’s game against PSU, hitting 15 of 21 field goals this year. With the way the Buckeye defense has played this year, Murray may have more opportunities to score than Vandenberg will and needs to connect on all of those chances if he wants to keep Iowa in the game.

Buckeye Breakdown

The Buckeyes have a chance to win their fifth straight conference title and clinch a Rose Bowl birth for the first time since taking down Jake “The Snake” Plummer in the 1997 season. Despite a dominating defense, the offense hasn’t been as bad as some think, as they lead the conference in scoring with 29.0 points per game and are second in rushing with 184.8 yards per game. They have looked much more comfortable since losing to Purdue four weeks ago (and incorporating more I and pro-set), and it is no coincidence that it all has started with Terrelle Pryor.

Given time in the pocket by the offensive line, Pryor looked the most comfortable he has all season against Penn State, throwing for 125 yards on 8/17 passing with 2 TDs and 0 INTs last weekend. Pryor also rushed for 50 yards on 5 carries and a score, despite nursing an injured ankle, that may have actually helped the sophomore play more within himself than he has all season.

Speaking of that offensive line, they may have played their finest game of the season in Happy Valley and it showed as the Bucks were able to rush for a combined 228 yards. Daniel Herron and Brandon Saine returned as Boom and Zoom, rushing for 58 and 68 yards respectively. The duo, along with Pryor and Jordan Hall, should be able to keep Iowa on its toes enough to allow Pryor to make some plays through the air as well.

What will Saturday bring?A win can end the Rose Bowl drought

The defense has done nothing much besides lead the conference in total defense, rushing defense, and turnovers. They are forcing 6 three-and-outs per game, a number that leads the nation, and indicates just how dominating this defense is. Cameron Heyward and Thaddeus Gibson have really stepped up their game of late and if they play any better they may be forced to leave early for the NFL. The two should give Vandenberg nightmares and will help give the Bucks the advantage against a very good Iowa offensive line.

The linebackers have been the silent assassins so far this season and will look to add some pressure to the Vandenberg rush. They do need to keep themselves in check, though, with the TE Moeaki. Jermale Hines, who lost his starting safety spot to Anderson Russell because of a lingering elbow injury, could be carrying the bulk of that duty from the star position and will also get help from Russell and Coleman depending on which side of the field Moeaki lines up on.

On Special Teams, the Bucks will have some more comfort at home with kicker Devin Barclay, who was a perfect 1-1 last week with a field goal of 37 yards. Barclay won’t be asked to do too much this season, but Jim Tressel may take a bigger chance at home than he would on the road with his inexperienced kicker. Ray Small was outstanding in the return game last week and if he can give the Buckeyes similar field position like he did against PSU, that will help.

Prediction

Vegas likes the Buckeyes big, clearly a result of the Stanzi injury. As Tressel said this week, Iowa will do what Iowa does and he doesn't expect their game plan to be much different. If that is the case, things shouldn't change much on our end, as we, here at the 11W headquarters, liked the Bucks all season long against the Hawkeyes, whether they had Stanzi or not.

This will be a close game for at least three quarters, as you can expect a similar defensive battle to what you saw last week in the first half. We think the Bucks will turn it on in the fourth quarter, and claim their fifth straight Big Ten title, a trip to Pasadena, and a victory on Senior Day.


Ohio State 24, Iowa 6

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OHIOinME on 13 Nov 2009 - 8:42am #

I sure hope this game turns out to be an OSU domination, but I don't see it that way. Iowa's Defense is much better than Penn St.'s and their receivers are good if they can get good thrown passes, then will make plays. Everyone is making fun of the Iowa's QB name; I hope this doesn't turn into something similar to that stupid Michigan running back, Tibia Batuka?? How do you say/pronounce that name again? All I know is he exploded on the Buckeyes.

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ntnt on 13 Nov 2009 - 8:53am #

Come on now do you really think a freshman qb from a school not in SoCal is going to do s*it to us?

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ntnt on 13 Nov 2009 - 8:55am #

In fact, as soon as he sees 100k+ taunting and harrassing him he is going to shit his pants. This would be like Cody Hawkins taking on Florida on the road.

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ntnt on 13 Nov 2009 - 9:32am #

Whatever beating StatePenn on the road is like waking up next to a straight dime. The confidence you get from that will easily carry over into the 5 out of 10 bitches that Iowa presents. We aren't about to lose to an ugly bitch with the clap which is pretty much the situation Iowa is in without Stanzi

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Ravi on 13 Nov 2009 - 9:36am #

Colt McCoy couldn't handle the buckeyes as a redshirt freshman.

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Matt on 13 Nov 2009 - 10:19am #

So pumped for this game, and great write up, but slight correction on point of history: Woody won 6 conference titles in a row from 1972 to 1977; Michigan won 5 conference titles in a row in the last 1980s into the 1990s.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 13 Nov 2009 - 10:39am #

OSU will be STOKED for this game....... but... so will Iowa. The key (my opinion) is the running game. IF OSU can establish the rushing game early and get 3-4 yds per rush consistently, that will allow Pryor the time to play action and throw. If not, Pryor is gonna have to do it on his own and the Iowa defense is real good--- not good for OSU. On the other side, OSU MUST keep pressure on the newbie QB--not always blitz, but confuse him with strange defenses and get a few INT's early to screw up his confidence. I think OSU wins fairly comfortably..... 24-12

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BuckeyeFOREVER on 13 Nov 2009 - 10:50am #

Question: not to nitpick or anything but why is OSU ranked #12 on this considering the fact that they are 8 in the Coaches, 10 in the AP, and 11 in the BCS...just want to give credit where credit is due.

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flipbuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 10:53am #

I believe they go by the Blogpoll rankings...

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Corey on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:04am #

We do use the BlogPoll for our rankings.

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Matt on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:38am #

Because the ranking suck earlier this year Iowa was 4th BCS 1st in BCS computers but 7th in coaches and 10th in AP yet the TV had them ranked 6th also I would like to say a healthy Iowa meaning Stanzi, Greenwood, Robinson, and Dace Richardson could hold there own vs Ohio St. Not doging on OSU but Iowa was good this year.

PS Iowa returns 18 of 22 and punter and kicker plus jewel hampton you didnt hear it from me but I predicted Iowa to win Rose Bowl next year.

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William Buckley on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:41am #

OSU will not be able to run against the Hawks.

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:44am #

I don't think this game is going to be that bad. Iowa's offense is very bad. Without Stanzi it's even worse. How good do you think the backup QB is if Ferentz has stuck with Stanzi and all his picks all season long? I know Iowa's defense is good, but I believe the buckeye offense and Pryor have improved a lot the last few weeks. I just don't think this game is going to be that close myself. Iowa will have a hard time getting first downs. They are going to have bad field position all game, which in turn will give us good field position. You know we're going to get at least one good kick return out of Small, the D is going to force turnovers. It's going to be like last week playing on a short field all game.

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Andy Feyen on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:49am #

You are exactly right on Ohio State trying to run the ball. Against Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota and Penn State, Ohio State averaged 238 yards on 47 carries (5 YPC!). Against Purdue and Wisconsin 82 yards on 28 carries (less than 3 YPC). Only Michigan has had more than 3.5 YPC against Iowa this season. This is the biggest challenge the Ohio State offensive line has faced since . . . well Penn State, but if Iowa shuts down the run and forces Pryor to beat them with his arm, this may be a war of interception returns and field goal kickers. Or Pyror could come out cool, calm, and collected, spread the ball around to a talented receiving corps and lead the offense down the field, but that would be a first for him.

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Josh_Alum on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:55am #

I think it's going to be a slugfest. And in a low scoring defensive battle, there's no room for error.

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 12:18pm #

Everyone was saying the same thing last week too. That's all I'm saying. I can see this one being very similar to last week's game.

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 12:30pm #

I had a terrible dream last night...... I was in the big house and... well I won't say the score, but it was not good.

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Matt on 13 Nov 2009 - 12:53pm #

You are an imposter Matt.

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Dean on 13 Nov 2009 - 12:59pm #

It was "Tshimanga," prounounced, apparently, "Tim"

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Matt on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:00pm #

The WSJ can't seem to get it's collective mouth off the organ of SEC football.

http://online.wsj.com/article/...

FOOTBALL GAMES ARE NOT TIMES FOR DATES AND/OR SUITS AND/OR TIES. EVER.

My favorite part of the story, re: SEC fraternities shaping of young men:

"It's a tradition of Southern chivalry," said Mr. Poteat, the finance major. "It's what's always been done. We're trying to build better men."

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:14pm #

24-6 is a good prediction, looks familiar.....

great minds think alike

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brutus on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:16pm #

ohio will kick @$$

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brutus on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:21pm #

OSU will win because pryor will beat them with his arm and they will run the ball right up iowa throat and OSU will win and i im predicting the score to me Iowa 12 Ohio State 28

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:25pm #

Sounds like they are more concerned with which girl will actually have sex with them for taking them to the football game. What a bunch of clowns, SEC frats are douches like everyone else!

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iball on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:50pm #

I just called him, "you mother fucker", for short.

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:54pm #

can we talk about something else? i'm having flashbacks...

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iball on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:55pm #

The key to this game IMO, is striking first. Iowa's confidence is alread shaky at best (despite what the cornfarmers on BHGP say).

Then a constant, Scott Tolzien, supply of pressure all day.

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iball on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:55pm #

Bizarro Matt!

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iball on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:57pm #

I hate your face.

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NorCal Buckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:58pm #

'Those who seem bored are eliminated from further consideration, he says, along with any who might talk too much during a close game "because they're from up North or something." '

I hated that damn "up North" comment when I lived in New Orleans, ha, like it was a bad thing. I think they looked down upon that whole readin' & writin' thing. And I could never fathom how they thought that the Rebel flag was acceptable to continue to fly on public buildings like schools and courthouses. WAAAAYYYY to many streets named after Confederate generals. I think someone mislead their ancestors into thinking they won.

Favorite chant during LSU week: "Sherman was from Ohio!" (they're not fans of his scorch and burn policy, especially in Atlanta)

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iball on 13 Nov 2009 - 1:59pm #

Someone please explain what that disgusting Ole Miss video is all about?

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:03pm #

how many times did you get called "yankee"?

welcome back to 1865

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Anonymous Internet Person on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:03pm #

Tim Biakabatuka. He played for Carolina in the pro's after the expansion and was out of football pretty fast if I'm remembering correctly. Not until he beat up on the Browns though. I remember being there and found myself swearing at him yet again as well.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:10pm #

wake up from your nightmare.... the score will be lopsided for the Buckeyes..Michigan is REAL BAD and they have given up 30 TO EVERYONE they have played in the conference....... OSU 31 Mich 13

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:11pm #

It was a terrible terrible dream. I was so relieved when I woke up.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:13pm #

who Freakin' cares... my question is why take a girl on a date to a football game?? Go with your friends and then take the young lady out AFTER the game..... idiots! lol

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:18pm #

the WSJ jumping on the SEC bandwagon just as it's about to sink.

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Matt on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:41pm #

One of the fight songs for Ole Miss is played to the tune of Battle Hymn of the Republic (which is ironic, in that it was the North's theme during the war, and written by a Yankee woman abolitionist who awoke from a dream while asleep in a Union soldier's camp, and wrote down the lyrics), and at the conclusion of the song, it is customary for the Ole Miss students to shout "the south will rise again." The lyrics aren't part of the actual song, but the students sing them anyway. The Ole Miss powers that be think that addendum is bad for Ole Miss's image, so they have issued an ultimatum: stop saying the south will rise again, or we will no longer play the song during games. Well, the students didn't like that, and they have continued to say the phrase, so my understanding is that Ole Miss is axeing the song. The Ole Miss fan who says some NSFW things is upset about that.

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:42pm #

Why is it about to sink? It seems like it's larger than ever right now

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canukeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:42pm #

Then you can take her out to rob a liquor store at gun point. That's real gentlemanly.

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:47pm #

it's inevitable really. the marquee talent of the SEC is set to leave early or graduate. Just look at Florida, ever since Harvin left they don't have the same ability to stretch the field and they don't put up as many points. Once Tebow and Spikes leave after this year they'll be back to average. UGA is back to earth, Ole Miss is overrated and has been exposed multiple times this season. Bama might be better next year but the rest of the teams will be worse off.

The big 12 is also set to fall after this season. No McCoy and no Bradford.

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Chris on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:50pm #

iball - that line is the highlight of my day thus far. Well played.

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 2:57pm #

The thing I hate most about Iowa fans are those stupid-ass black and yellow overalls.

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Anonymous Internet Person on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:02pm #

I'm glad he explained why OSU won't be able to run the ball. Maybe his response is 'cuz.'

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A Bag of Doritos on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:12pm #

exactly correct. taking a girl to a football game as a "date" is equivalent to going dutch at Mickey D's.

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Ken on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:30pm #

The fuckin' South will never let you down.. You can always count on them for some good ol' antebellum chivalry.

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Kyle on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:31pm #

Because William Buckley said so! Now throw me a damn beer!

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Buckeyeholicwompa on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:42pm #

We're gonna harvest the heck outa these hawkeyes!

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Buckeye in SC on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:48pm #

I semi-agree. I think the SEC will take a step back next year. The Big 12 will decline too. I'm actually looking at the ACC to make some big strides and become a force next fall.

Anyone scared of Miami fielding a very experienced team the next two years?

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:48pm #

Yeah but I remember when Ohio State lost to Tennessee in a bowl. I had a Tennessee fan tell me that the reason they lost was Ohio State just didn't have the speed and athletes that SEC schools recruit. That mentality has always been there, now they have an ESPN megaphone to tell everyone that. That's why even when you watch the bottom feeders play, you hear about SEC speed, how tough the SEC is etc. Just because Florida will be gone and Bama may not be as strong. LSU or Georgia could be the new team. All they need is one great team for their Fans and ESPN to chang SEC.

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:50pm #

I do think, though, that the constant exposure and shoving SEC greatness down everyone's throats will lead to a Yankee type backlash. People either love the Yankees or they hate them and it's because it's the only team you ever hear about. Everything they do is news. I know they have 90 years of greatness to go with it, but the constant exposure will lead to a very strong hate or love. There will be no middle ground.

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:52pm #

I'll agree about the ACC, but SEC fans will cling to them being "southern" teams too. I even heard Herbie or one of those guys mention them as being very SEC like as a conference.

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:53pm #

I also think the Big 10, has made progress and will continue to do so. But if Purdue beats Ohio State, it will always be much worse than UK or Vandy knocking of LSU, because the SEC is so deep. Until that image gets cracked, which this year it should that conference is not that good, it doesn't matter how deep any other conference is.

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Bucksfan on 13 Nov 2009 - 3:54pm #

Fine. They'll just dial up Posey, Sanz, or some other 4.3 guy over the top.

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BuckeyeSki on 13 Nov 2009 - 4:00pm #

William Buckley....sounds like a civil war general

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Bucksfan on 13 Nov 2009 - 4:00pm #

Consider this, you guys....The Big Ten has the capacity to field 4 teams with 10-2 records during the bowl season. Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, and Wisconsin. Iowa, Wisconsin, and Penn State have no problems beating SEC teams in bowl games...PSU and Wiscy won their last bowl games against them, and Iowa has gone 3-1 in their last 4. Ohio State is the anomaly, but for some reason carries the burden of SEC vs. Big Ten.

Screw that. Big Ten rebounds BIG this bowl season in the Capitol One and Outback bowls. Their chest-thumping ends this year!

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 4:01pm #

lol, well you know I went to the game where Iowa killed the bucks out in Iowa. I got pissed and left the game about 1/2 hour early and got lost in Iowa city. I was decked out in OSU gear too. I was called a lot of names, and teased a bit, and I see a yard full of guys wearing those overalls. They called me the worst names of all, but helped me find my way and before they would give me directions the one guy made me drink half of a flask of some sort of peppermint drink he had. So, they gave me a hard time, but got me my buzz back and helpmed me find my way. Anyway, the whole time I was thinking what the hell are these guys wearing? I do like Iowa fans though, on blogs and message boards everyone sounds like D-bags. When I was out there in Iowa they all were awesome. I was kidnapped by a group of women who spanked me because I had Ohio State stuff on. Then they took pictures of it. When they showedtheir grandma she said well I didn't get to spank that ass, lol. I turned around and said let's see what you got Granny. The whole day, other than the game, was a lot of fun.

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 4:30pm #

Looks like a sparked a little convo here...

The ACC has supposedly been ready to make the step back in to the big time for like 5 years now, I still don't buy it. Clemson loses spiller, i think GT loses Nesbit(maybe?), Florida state has taken a big dump on itself lately, Wake is still wake, UNC please....

VTech might be good next year and Miami should be a good, but there are no promises... remember the whole "THE U IS BACK!" thing earlier this year? Miami went out and go exposed immediately afterwards.

Georgia could be good next year, I'm not sure who they return.

I hate to say it, but the Pac10 could be the best conference next year. Arizona is good, they have everyone coming back, same with oregon. ASU is talented on defense, etc.

I also look for our beloved b11 to improve starting this bowl season. Of course, PSU does lose the sad panda to graduation as well as evan royster if i am not mistaken.

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 4:31pm #

Iowa fans for the most part are harmless and decent people, I agree with you.

I just think those overalls are tarded.

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 4:32pm #

My girlfriend an I celebrated our 1st anniversary at the OSU scUM game back in 2006, match made in heaven. However, i Never took her or anyone else to a game as a date......

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 4:33pm #

anybody watch the office last night???

"I do declare..." haha

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A Bag of Doritos on 13 Nov 2009 - 4:34pm #

buckeyeski, is that wittiest comment of the day or are you not familiar with national review?

don't take that to be condescending, genuinely curious. it will gnaw at me all day.

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Ken on 13 Nov 2009 - 6:08pm #

sbb, yeah, that was pretty funny last night.

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BuckeyeSki on 13 Nov 2009 - 6:10pm #

No, but I did watch the League, which is quickly becoming the best show on TV

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 6:12pm #

I do too, and that whole big story was because I remembered the first time I saw those things lol. Sometimes I lose focus and include a story into a post where I really just wanted to say, yeah those things a dumb.

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BuckeyeSki on 13 Nov 2009 - 6:14pm #

Not sure what National Review is to be honest my friend

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Brian on 13 Nov 2009 - 6:17pm #

I would just like to say, I'm really excited about the game. I'll be going tomorrow and it's my first game this season. I can't wait to get up there and tailgate, and I'll be really disappointed if the crowd is not nuts tomorrow. I've been to the stadium for a few games but they were always laughers, I've never been there when the place is really rocking.

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BuckeyeChief on 13 Nov 2009 - 6:31pm #

No, no, no Ravi...as Texas fans have explained to me, in 2005 they came up to the Shoe and beat the shit out of us (by three points) and in 2006 we barely won (by 17)...by beating us in the Fiesta Bowl this year (again by 3, not to long after USC beat us by 32), they should've been crowned National Champs.

Seriously, I have no idea where the myth that Texas fans are classy and laid back comes from. They have accosted Phil Simms because of his sons failure to beat Oklahoma, etc,etc.

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BuckeyeChief on 13 Nov 2009 - 6:40pm #

True story, I was a Freshman that season. I made 2 really dumb ass desicions. First I didn't buy student tickets because I needed the cash and I figured I'd be there a few years. Second, I could've gotten tickets from Anthony Gwinn (I went to HS with him and Terry Gleen) to the game up north, but I was working at some dead-end job and couldn't get the day off.

A year later, I was stationed in San Diego, my room mate was also an OSU drop out, and watched the game where Shawn Springs slipped.

FUCK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T... this cat.
I hate him as much as the devil.

I will never forget some douche walking around the oval monday after the game in full scUM gear, and the thought "Why the fuck is he here?"

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iball on 13 Nov 2009 - 6:42pm #

Brian, thats hilarious. I got on BHGP the other night for a little good spirited trash talk. All those guys took it pretty well, and I got alot of good laughs. The only person whining about it was a Buckeye fan. Go figure.

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iball on 13 Nov 2009 - 6:46pm #

I will be tailgating myself, then heading to Riverwatch for the game. I just hope I make it to work Monday. Go Bucks!

A friend of mine was there in 87 I believe, when Iowa was No.1 and we knocked them off. He said in all his years at the Shoe, that by far was the craziest after party. I don't think he was there after the 2003 Fiesta Bowl though!

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dr. green on 13 Nov 2009 - 7:16pm #

He's dead. The poster is lacking an F. and a Jr.
http://article.nationalreview....

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A Bag of Doritos on 13 Nov 2009 - 8:09pm #

national review was a republican political magazine founded by william buckley (or, as the pedant would say, William F. Buckley, Jr.). it was the most prominent magazine of its kind for a long time under his stewardship. so, "civil war general" would be a somewhat humorous way to describe buckley, for a politics nerd. of course, a nancy with their panties in a bunch would probably take offense at the idea that democratic partisan politics could be considered comparable to a war for the sake of a pun.

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 8:15pm #

you're right. The league is the real deal. I DVR it weekly

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BuckeyeSki on 13 Nov 2009 - 8:29pm #

Oh alright, I had no previous knowledge of this publication...

I was commenting strictly on the fact that his name, to me, LITERALLY sounds like a civil war general from the south......

General William Buckley LOL <--- for you SBB

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 8:31pm #

I don't blame you for not knowing this random shit. I had no idea either.

Thanks for the shout out, broseephus.

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A Bag of Doritos on 13 Nov 2009 - 9:28pm #

it does. there are a ton of names like that in the south. two of my favorite are (both are street names in savannah, ga):

james oglethorpe
joseph habersham

i would trade my name in an instant to be known as habersham.

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poe mcknoe on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:02pm #

I can't wait to see what the genius of Brian Kelly can come up with to offset his defense.

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poe mcknoe on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:04pm #

Love the first comment from the Dr Saturday link:

"I think the part that people get on calling him a "genius" for is the fact that his system really isn't defendable, at least not the way most teams play defense."

Virginia Tech must have been sent back from future to protect us from Cincy winning a BCS bowl.

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southbaybuckeye on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:05pm #

Like the Terminator of college football?

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BuckeyeChief on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:25pm #

Favorite chant during LSU week: “Sherman was from Ohio!”

Apparently, LSU students don't know their own history...quite suprised I had never heard this before...

http://www.lsu.edu/visitors/hi...

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bup bup bup on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:25pm #

im no football genius, but wouldnt a team with a decent d-line playing the nickel do a pretty good job at defending what was described?

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AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:39pm #

Mark May is a douche. And not even the Summer's Eve kinda douche. More like the Dollar General variety.

That is all.

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bup bup bup on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:44pm #

i dont even care what mark may says anymore, him and lou are essentially the football version of the bikini girls holding up the round cards in boxing. or the announcers at a WWE wrestling match.

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Sam on 13 Nov 2009 - 11:56pm #

Reasons he picked Iowa: Iowa Pride, Kirk Ferentz, James Vandenberg

Come on, dude. I mean, you can pick Iowa, and not be seen as a total partisan douchenozzle, if you at least attempt to back that pick up with some statistics or something. But that? He isn't even trying anymore. Pretty lackluster job of hating on Ohio State, IMO.

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Ultrabuckeyehomer on 14 Nov 2009 - 12:53am #

I really got the sense that he was speaking tongue-in-cheek almost. Not the normal OSU will lose pick. There is no way you cite the quarterback as a reason for the win ... at least, I don't think you could be serious and do so, right?

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Matt on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:03am #

I think May knows exactly what he's doing; he's a douche, but he's a sharp guy. You piss off college football's arguably largest fanbase and create publicity, that's solid job security for someone who earns his salary by being polarizing, especially when the team you disparage is near universally hated-on.

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TLB on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:16am #

YouTube has a short video package of that Rose Bowl. DLB returns the opening kickoff to the 22.

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Brian on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:17am #

I think it goes a little farther than him knowing what he was doing though. He has been hating on them for about 8 years before it was popular to do so on ESPN. He picked against him for 20 strait weeks before he was finally right back then. I think he genuinely hates Ohio State. Maybe since then he has taken it and run with it a little bit more to make it his thing. I just can't imagine he would pick only one team to genuinely hate when there are so many other big programs that are deserving for actually playing shitty even though they are ranked high. I don't know if he played against them and got his ass rocked, or they never recruited him. I don't know, but it seems like there is some rooted hatred there.

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Brian on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:20am #

I always kind of pull for Iowa when they aren't playing the Buckeyes. Truthfully, I don't mind Iowa, Penn State, or even Wisconsin. They I met some Wisconsin fans out in Vegas one time. It was a couple of years ago, and I had buckeye stuff on. There was a Michigan fan there talking smack and we teamed up on him. We were at a craps table, I was about 23 or 24 and throwing dice at the craps table. I hit about 4 points and they must've won a ton of money. They gave me 50 bucks after my roll. They were really nice people. They didn't hate Ohio State at all but definitely shared my hate for Michigan.

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Brian on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:23am #

This actually is only my 4th game up there I think. I try to go to a game every year. I've been out to Iowa and since I live about 15 miles south of Cincy, I went to the game at Paul Brown a few years back. Anyway, I'm really excited should be a great time. I'm not sure where we are tailgating, I know a friend of mine's cousin is going to have a big setup so I assume that's where we're hanging out.

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Brian on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:25am #

Part of me really wishes the Rose bowl wouldn't follow tradition so much and somehow Ohio State and UC could play to shut everyone around here up. I'm so tired of people on the radio talking about how unstoppable they are.

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BuckeyeChief on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:32am #

Don't worry, they will lose to Pitt....barely beat UConn and WVU...

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Matt on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:32am #

May is a Pitt grad, and from 1993 through 1996, we played a 4 game series against Pitt. We won all four games by a combined score of 216-45, including perhaps the most humiliating Pitt loss of the modern era, an absolute ass-stomping of 72-0. It's thus not out of the question that May is still bitter about those embarrassments. We also beat Pitt 28-23 in the 1984 Fiesta Bowl.

And now, enjoy David Boston taking it to the house, 8 Buckeyes against 11 Pitt Panthers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

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cjkanski on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:46am #

Matt
I never get tired of watching that clip. 8 on 11 and Boston still takes it to the house!!

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iball on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:47am #

I'll be mingling between several different parties myself, then like I said, making my way to Riverwatch about a half hour before kick to get a decent spot. So I don't really know where I'll be or when. All the frequent commenters on this site need to wear 11W gear at the games.

Hey 11W, how bout a couple freebies for commenters with over one-hundred posts?! lol

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iball on 14 Nov 2009 - 1:50am #

Well that just blew the fuckin' lid off the cover, Matt.

You are a genius. You need to start posting that shit on ESPN. Fuck that dude.

That made my frickin' day, almost like when ESPN axed Trev Albers. Now that guy is the definition of douche.

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iball on 14 Nov 2009 - 2:07am #

Check out the Amos and Andy skit the rednecks at BHGP cooked up.

http://www.blackheartgoldpants...

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Anonymous Internet Person on 14 Nov 2009 - 9:01am #

i'm going to the game and tailgating buckeyes will win 28 to 14

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Cor on 14 Nov 2009 - 11:08am #

he hung around for four or five years, never played a full season because he was injured alot

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Sean on 14 Nov 2009 - 3:16pm #

Hell, I'm not even sure they'll beat the fighting Zookers

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HawksRule! on 16 Nov 2009 - 1:36pm #

All you thought we wouldn't showup to play in the hourseshoe.. the truth is you know we owned you... and you really just got lucky!

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Brett on 16 Nov 2009 - 1:44pm #

You owned us? You led for all of 5 minuted of the game... Not what I would calling being "owned."

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Brett on 16 Nov 2009 - 1:47pm #

Whoops grammatical errors. You owned us? You led for all of 5 minutes of the game… Not what I would call being “owned.”

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Matt on 20 Nov 2009 - 10:28am #

I believe he means we where 18pt underdogs without a qb an all american linemen and our best running jewel hampton out for seasons and we put you in overtime in columbus which is best we have done in recent history I am a hwak fan but with stanzi we probably win that game no offense to the bucks but pryor looked real horrid. In the end both team played well so pleas dont seem cocky OSU fans thats why everyone hates you I think most people understand you won but not in a diserable fashion over a beat up Iowa team

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