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Which position-only coach is most valuable to the team?

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CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

Went with Vrabel because of his NFL experience and the importance of the D-line to control the game. 

Hovenaut's picture

Warriner.....with all the changes to the way football is played, the game is still won in the trenches. The o-line has to be mean, lean and cohesive.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

VintonCountyBuck's picture

As a former O-Lineman..I salute you, my enlightened friend.  +1

“Right now, Michigan is not at the pinnacle of college football, and that’s all Urban Meyer cares about...He’s been there and knows what it takes to get there.” 

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Agree 100%  The game starts with the execution of the offensive line. If you can't block you have almost no chance to win, let alone compete for a championship.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

VintonCountyBuck's picture

It's not just that..Football in it's basic form is really a pretty simple game.
 
Protect the ball carrier, and therefore the football, as if he was your first-born child.
Protect your Quarterback as if they were your own mother.
Protect your field position as if you were being invaded. 
Protect your House as if your life depended on it.
Do these things and you will win most games.
Just like you stated...The O-Line is where it all starts.

“Right now, Michigan is not at the pinnacle of college football, and that’s all Urban Meyer cares about...He’s been there and knows what it takes to get there.” 

osu07asu10's picture

Someone clearly read the "POSITION ONLY" part of the question

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

tennbuckeye19's picture

To be fair, while Herman is the OC, he is also the Quarterbacks Coach.

osu07asu10's picture

Ok, but Herman isn't just a position coach. Just like Fickell isn't on here although he coaches linebackers.

Hell you can even make the argument that Warriner shouldn't be on here because he is co-offensive coordinator.
Bottom line, the question clearly is meant to exclude the OC and DC.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

tennbuckeye19's picture

I'm with you.
What about Coombs? He's listed as the special teams coordinator. I say we take him off too :)

HighBallAce's picture

Oh for cripes sakes! A down vote for being polite and saying thank you?

osu07asu10's picture

Was scared to vote on this and see the results...figured everyone would have the bromance on with Vrabel.
Love the guy, but he's only been an assistant for 2 year. Hell of a recruiter, learning a lot, brings so much upside with his NFL experience and buckeye history...
BUT
Ed Warriner may be the best assistant in all of college football. He understands Meyer and Herman's offense to a tee, which you simply cannot under estimate the importance of offensive line play in any offense, especially the spread, which is vastly different from running 5 variations of Dave.
Warriner for sure.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

jthiel09's picture

This is like if you're a parent of multiple kids and someone asks you what child is your favorite. 

JT

avail31678's picture

And you say "none" because they're loud and whiny??!!
 
Oh wait, I see what you were trying to do.

tennbuckeye19's picture

I went with Warriner strictly because of the development of Fragel after his position change and the way the O-line as a whole performed last year. But really, I like each of these coaches very much. Without being a major homer, I do think Urban assembled an excellent group of men to lead the Buckeyes.

babbski's picture

Warinner. I still have Walrus-related nightmares.

NoVA Buckeye's picture

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

mh277907's picture

Definitely think the lines are extremely important on both sides of the ball but from the limited games played by Alabama that I have watched, I think the front 7 on D is why they have been so successful.  With the level of talent that has come to Columbus on the D Line in the past 2 years, it is extremely important for future recruiting that Vrabel develops these kids into the All-American type players that they are expected to become. Many successful people- like Vrabel- thrive under pressure like that so I am sure he will do a great job.  

buckeyebobcat

BucksfanXC's picture

Gotta love us, voting for the line coaches. Classic

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

OldColumbusTown's picture

Warinner.
You can't win without a very good offensive line.  Ohio State did a lot of winning last year.  The way Warinner transformed the line, even turning guys like Hall and Linsley, who were either thought to be overrated or an afterthought for playing time, into big time contributors.  That doesn't even begin to describe what he did with Reid Fragel in just one offseason/season.
Give him some big-time talent and watch this offense take off...

DannyBeane's picture

I went with Warinner because having a functional offensive line is actually kind of nice for once. Also I'd like to give a shoutout to master Piranha wrangler Kerry Coombs.

cplunk's picture

Warinner.
It's always about the lines. D-linemen in college can still be very effective with poor technique but exceptional physical skills. Recruit good D-linemen and you will have at least an above average D-line. Offensive linemen? No dice. Bad technique is a bad lineman in college. Physical talent is not enough at that level.
The difference between what I saw under Warriner last year and what I've seen recently at OSU is huge.

Vabuck213's picture

Isn't Warriner technically co-offensive coordinator with Herman? 

avail31678's picture

Warriner.  Turned our OL from a weakness into a real strength last year.  Helped make a tight end be one of our best lineman.

Phoenix824's picture

Totally agree with this statement.   OL was such a disappointment the last few years due to Warriner it is now a strength.     Vrabel would be my very close second.   

abrahajc's picture

thought I would have to defend voting for Warriner, but turns out that is the majority.  I would be surprised if he didn't have some nice head coaching offers looming in the future.

yrro's picture

Easily Warriner. Even with Tressel's play-calling, when I think about what Beanie Wells could have done behind last year's O-line, I get shivers.

Poison nuts's picture

Had to go with Vrabel for the recruiting aspect. All indications are that he's one of the best recruiters there is. Couple that with the fact that he's a pretty damn good coach as well & he was my pick. Warriner & Coombs were a close 2nd & 3rd IMO...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

NoVA Buckeye's picture

Warriner. Our line went from being the butt of all jokes to a national powerhouse in a single year. Most other coaches would make the line average (which still would've been great), but Warriner took it to the next level immediately.

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

OSUinFl's picture

When he was at Nd those teams could  run the ball. They hard run blackers.

MediBuck's picture

I love the intensity Coach Coombs brings to this team, but Ed Warriner is simply a magician with what he was given, then delivered, in terms of the O-Line.

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes

NoVA Buckeye's picture

To be fair to the players, they were actually good, it's just that Bollman had zero clue how to develop them.

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

luckynutz's picture

Looks like I'm part of the minority that loves the work drayton does for the buckeyes. Look at what hyde and smith were able to do last year. Hyde just got better as the season rolled on. Same with smith...to the point that all returns on his offseason have been glowing. O line is important, and not dicounting warriner. Dude molded the line into an elite unit last year. Just kind of preferrential to drayton.