11W Roundtable: Let's Rumble

By Jeff Beck on August 23, 2014 at 8:30a
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Well friends, it’s that time again. Believe it or not, we’re a week away from watching the boys in the Scarlet and Gray duke it out with the Middies. Braxton Miller is out, but the end goal is still in sight, and to help provide clarity, I’ve tapped some of the brightest bros in the business to give their #HOTTAKES.

Ladies and gentlemen, without further adieu I give you the first of many 2014 season RoundTables.

Eleven Warriors' 2014 Ohio State Football Season Preview

What are your thoughts on the loss of Braxton Miller. This is a trust tree. Be honest.

Michael: I just hope Dr. Andrews can repair the damage so his career can continue. I hate this more for Braxton than for the team’s prospects. Ideally you’d like to see the kid go out, win a championship and get drafted after his senior year as a reward for all that he’s done for the program.

Kyle: Overall, the offense will still put up plenty of yards. There won't be as many explosive, 2,3, or 4 play drives like there were last year, but we'll still see plenty of points with Barrett leading the way.

DJ: I was gutted at first, but in retrospect, it was better this than have him lose an entire season because he got injured in the fourth quarter of Ohio State's first conference game. (/Salute Christian Bryant). It also gives Ohio State time to prepare, and thankfully Virginia Tech isn't Alabama or Michigan State. (The Hokies will still be tough, though.)

In the end, J.T. Barrett gets invaluable experience (Ohio State will know what they have with him, for better or worse, by the end of the season), and Braxton returns for 2015. Sucks now, but this time next year it will be a good problem to have. Right now, I deal with it by pretending Braxton actually turned pro after the 2014 Orange Bowl.

Chris: I hurt for Braxton more than the Buckeyes though I’m past the grief stage and am now fully interested in seeing how the offense works when not leaning on one or two guys to carry the bulk of the load. Beyond this year, assuming Miller does actually return, I’m curious to see if he comes back as an all-purpose weapon instead of a signal-caller. He would obviously still be the best QB on the roster but if he wants to play professionally, the position switch would make sense for him and potentially Ohio State.
 

How much confidence do you have in JT Barrett leading the Buckeyes to a B1G championship? The playoff?

Patrick: First of all, I think JT Barrett just has to be JT Barrett for Ohio State to make it anywhere. He's not Braxton Miller, and if Ohio State asks him to be, it'll be in trouble. If Meyer and Co. are smart (they are), they'll use him as the distributor he is. Barrett has the supporting cast to make it to the Big Ten title game and, potentially, the playoffs. 

Do I think he can help them to Indianapolis? Yes. Do I think they can win the league championship? Yes. Do I think they're playoff contenders? Yes. Fringe contenders, but yes. Do I think they'll make it to the playoffs? No. 

Jeremy: Barrett’s job is simple: distribute, don’t turn it over, and don’t feel like you have to do “too much.” He’s not Braxton Miller, and he knows it, so use the guys around him and watch the entire offense grow together. There’s a strange benefit to Miller being out and that’s the chance for everyone to become cohesive at the same time, gelling together. I think Ohio State is still a B1G contender with JT Barrett under center, and if they do that, they put themselves in the mix for the CFB Play-Off.

Ramzy: How much confidence do I have in a system quarterback recruited for an Urban Meyer offense to participate in a championship run with dozens of 4 and 5-star players around him? All of it. That's why he's there. The Buckeyes should be favored in at least 11 of 12 games this season. Ohio State is absolutely capable of being a chalk team that pulls one upset.

Nicholas: There are two ways of looking at this, either with or without scarlet-tinted glasses. The optimistic perspective: Urban Meyer's quarterbacks have a great track record, and Tom Herman might be a quarterback coaching savant. Barrett has a redshirt under his belt, and he has taken half of the first-team snaps since the Orange Bowl. He's more developed than Braxton Miller was as a sophomore, and in case you didn't notice, the last two Heisman winners were redshirt freshman quarterbacks. I'm not saying JT Barrett is going to win the 2014 Heisman, but I am implying it!

And now for a cold slap of reality: The best-case scenario for JT Barrett would be something like Colt McCoy's 2006 season with Texas. McCoy passed for 2,570 yards and 29 TDs; you may also recall McCoy having no impact against Ohio State's killer defense and Texas finishing 10-3. OSU must beat Michigan State to get to the Big Ten Championship Game, and that's just not going to happen unless Barrett plays 90% as well as Miller did in last year's title game. If the Buckeyes lose to Sparty, kiss the playoff goodbye.
 

There's some talk of platooning Barrett and Cardale Jones. It worked for Urban in 2006. Will it work this year?

Mike R.: No, and here's why. Both Cardale Jones and J.T. Barrett are not "they need to be on the field type players." Leak and Tebow were both QB's that couldn't be kept on the sidelines and I do not think that Jones is that kind of player.

Johnny: It won't work, and I hope he doesn't go that route unless J.T. really struggles. Tebow the backup was always more of a situational fullback instead of a full-fledged quarterback, and while Cardale and Barrett are about as different physically as two QBs can get, neither are experienced enough to give up reps to the other. One or the other needs as many game reps as humanly possible, and platooning them will result in a wasted year developmentally for both. Unless Cardale has some really specific packages made up for him that he can run flawlessly, stick with Barrett. 

Mike Y.: It worked in 2006 because he knew the limitations of each QB, plus the drastic difference in styles of play allowed Tebow and Leak to work together. I don't think we'll see anywhere near that kind of platoon. Maybe Cardale, because of his size, will come in for some short-yardage situations, particularly around the goal line. They did that last year, though, with goal line packages for Kenny Guiton at QB.

Jeremy: Unless it’s a very specific role for Jones, I don’t think this will work. In 2006, Tebow was a short-yardage, running option almost exclusively and it worked well for the Gators but that was a senior and a freshman, not two freshman (essentially) vying for the role of leader on a team full of fresh-faced youngsters. Pick a guy, ride him until you know he can’t handle the job and then consider other options. There’s nothing worse for an inexperienced QB who is trying to gain confidence than the fear of a constant quick hook.

BOSA KILLER YAH YAH YAH YAH YAH YAH YAH YAH YAH

When it's all said and done, will the defensive line be the best in the country?

Tim: I think it very well could be. All four of those guys have NFL potential, it's just a matter of staying healthy and living up to all of that hype. 

Ramzy: Can't speak for the rest of the country but it will be at least the best DL Ohio State has had since 2010. The 2003 line is probably the best this century - this year's could threaten that one.

Mike R.: The defensive line is going to be the best in the country for two reasons: The talent is there and the rotation that Larry Johnson incorporates is going to work wonders. Bosa and Spence are going to stay fresh each game, same with Bennett and Washington, and the guys that come in to sub them are going to be fresh. They are going to put up huge numbers.

Nicholas: I think it will. Nobody has a deeper d-line than Ohio State; only Clemson has a better starting four, and only Alabama has more blue-chip recruits on the roster. Ohio State has one of the best starting four in the country, and it certainly has the deepest d-line. I'd like to see if Larry Johnson's rotations mean the line is significantly fresher in the fourth quarter; if so, I'd take Bennett/Bosa/Spence/Washington/whoever over anyone else.

Mike Y.: Alabama, Clemson Florida State and UCLA all have strong defensive lines. A few of those are missing a piece from last year, but even if those teams do return their entire line – like Clemson – they still don't have as much overall talent as Ohio State's front four. Michael Bennett might be the best interior pass rusher in the country, and, while it's difficult to imagine, Joey Bosa will be even better than last year. Add in a healthy Adolphus Washington and, when he returns from suspension, Noah Spence, you'll have the best defensive line in the country.
 

Who will lead the defensive line in sacks at the end of the season?

Michael: I’m going to go with Noah Spence here because I think Joey Bosa will see more double teams and Spence will have a chip on his shoulder after the suspension.

Johnny: My guess is Bennett. Bosa and Spence (once he gets back from his suspension) will probably occupy a lot of attention due to their flash and dash, but Bennett had seven sacks of his own last season playing with essentially one arm. And again, I would like to point out that I said this kid was going to be a star like four years ago and ultimately deserve all credit for all of his present and future success.

DJ: Noah Spence, but Joey Bosa is going to get his. Spence, however, will be the main beneficiary as offensive lines will undoubtedly focus on the whirling dervish that is the man they call the Big Bear. 

A lot of people forget about him due to some idiot spiking his drink with ecstasy, but Spence is already seen as a first round pick. He could easily play himself into top 15, top ten status. 

So yeah, I'm as high on Noah Spence as Spence must've been at whatever shitty off-campus party he got his drink spiked. 

Patrick: Noah Spence. I waffled between him and Joey Bosa, for the record. But Spence being the viper means his job is usually to be the chief pass rusher. Bosa will get double-teamed a lot this season.
 

The receivers are green but talented. Who are you most looking forward to seeing perform this season?

Tim: Can I say Dontre Wilson here? I'm going to anyway because it's America. I wasn't exactly blown away with his performance last year, but I definitely saw the potential. I also think Jalin Marshall could have a huge season.

Kyle: Dontre Wilson, without question. His explosiveness is unmatched on this team, and the coaches have really only scratched the surface in terms of finding ways to get him the ball. 

Chris: I’m excited to see if Jalin Marshall can be a factor in the slot and in the return game. He’ll obviously have to work his way onto the field with Dontre having a one-year head start in the slot but I have a blind hunch the kid will be a force. I would also say Michael Thomas because he just might be the breakout guy in the group but I figure everyone else is already tabbing him.

Ramzy: Michael Thomas. I like my receivers, rangy, cocky, immensely talented and just a little bit crazy. He's my prototype.
 

Which receiver will lead the team in receptions? With how many?

Mike R.: Dontre Wilson with 60.

Michael: I wrote about that earlier this offseason and went with Devin Smith’s experience. I had him for 54 receptions for 753 yards and nine touchdowns. Braxton being out doesn’t change my answer, but I’ll drop his totals to 49 catches for 695 yards and seven touchdowns. I think Barrett will benefit from the extra weapons and spread the ball around.

DJ: Corey Smith is going to lead Ohio State in catches. A lot; Corey Smith is going to have a lot of catches.

Patrick: Michael Thomas. 60. I think for Ohio State to be successful, it's going to have to spread the ball around a lot this season.

It's Vonny Football!

The secondary has to be better, right?

Nicholas: I have no doubt they'll be better. I don't see Chris Ash as a can't-miss position coach like Ed Warinner or Tom Herman, but having Ash responsible for the entire secondary will clear up some of the systemic issues from last year. Bradley Roby was solid for much of his career, but he wasn't as good as billed in 2013. With additional depth, an aggressive (and cohesive!) scheme that takes advantage of the roster's athleticism, and the general idea of regression to the mean, the secondary is all but certain to improve.

Mike Y.: The main issue plaguing last year's secondary, I felt, was the scheme. It wasn't conducive to the talent, there was poor communication amongst players and, especially poor communication by the coaches to the players. With Chris Ash, those issues are solved. Outside of Doran Grant, though, there are legitimate concerns about experience. Really the answer here is: of course it will improve because it can't be any worse than last season.

Johnny: Yeah, because it's hard to get much worse than hot garbage, or 112th in the nation as was the case last season. Hopefully another year makes these guys another year wiser, and hopefully Ash's simplified scheme calms down their gametime jimmies.

Jeremy: Good gracious, it better be. The reasons it should be? Experienced cornerbacks and a new aggressive approach thanks to Chris Ash. The reasons it won’t be? Losing CJ Barnett and Christian Bryant, although Vonn Bell is a better talent than either of those two were, their leadership and experience was invaluable. The defensive line’s success will directly impact the secondaries success.
 

Who steps up to fill Carlos Hyde's massive shoes this season?

Chris: No one player will match his 208 carries, 1521 yards or 15 touchdowns. I see Ezekiel as the leading rusher on this team but the depth will keep him from going for 1,000.

Tim: It's not going to be one guy, but I think Ezekiel Elliott will run for roughly 900 yards, if healthy, and Rod Smith will go for about 500. I think Ohio State will throw the ball more this season without Miller.

Kyle:  EzE ends up with just over 1000 yds, but Dontre and Barrett end up with plenty of yards on their own (over 400+ each).

DJ: ROD SMITH FOR 1,200. (100 emoji)
 

Who is the freshman not named J.T. you are most looking forward to watching this season?

Mike R.: Jalin Marshall. If he hadn't gotten injured during fall camp last season, he would've made a huge impact on the 2013 campaign. He is just too talented not to.

Michael: I can’t wait to see Curtis Samuel get the ball in space. Every time Dontre Wilson touched the ball last year, he looked a threat to take it to the house. Now here comes Samuel, a kid who is faster and bigger. How can you not be excited about that?

Nicholas: Raekwon McMillan, because a freshman linebacker who draws comparisons to Andy Katzenmoyer and is named for a danged Wu Tang Clan member is as interesting as they get.

Jeremy: Raekwon McMillan is my choice and that’s because I genuinely believe by the time B1G play rolls around he’ll be a true freshman starting at middle linebacker for the Buckeyes, which we’ve not seen since 1996. I know that he’s behind Curtis Grant on the depth chart right now, but McMillan’s talent and drive will rise to the top.

DJ.: Johnnie Dixon. That fella is the best receiver Urban Meyer has signed, and Dixon is going to play in the NFL for a long, long time. I'm trying to appreciate every second of his career this year.
 

Project Ohio State's record:

Johnny: 10, including the bowl game. Michigan State takes us out, we stumble early versus Navy or Virginia Tech, drop another one we shouldn't, but then recover and win the bowl game. I will say this: if we lose to Michigan this year I will be furious, for so many reasons other than the usual.

Tim: I don't think a 10-win season is out of the question, but there is so much unknown at the quarterback position. I think the Virginia Tech game will give Ohio State some trouble because of its defense and the Michigan State game was already circled before Braxton Miller got hurt. I'm going to say they finish 9-3, but I think 10-2 is a possibility.

Kyle: 11-1. I didn't think the Buckeyes were winning in East Lansing with Braxton, and that doesn't change now.

Ramzy: 15-0. I'm not interested in hedging for my emotions' sake this year. Win all the games.
 

You've got one thing to say to J.T. Barrett in the locker room before he takes the field against Navy. What do you say?

Mike Y.: J.T., ESPN says your team is depleted when, really, the only difference is that you're now the starting QB. How does that make you feel? Pretty awful, huh? I've also seen at least three fake J.T. Barrett Twitter accounts. If you succeed at this, there will be many more. Do you really want to put that evil on society? Sorry, I'm bad at pep talks.

Chris: <Leslie Nielsen voice>I just wanna tell you Good luck. We’re all counting on you.<Leslie Nielsen voice />

Patrick: Just be you. You're going to go as far as your supporting cast will let you. 

Jeremy: Be yourself and don’t worry about who you’re replacing. You came to Ohio State for one reason, and that’s to lead the Buckeyes’ offense and to do it in a different way than Braxton Miller. Your biggest strength is the guys around you, use them, rely on them and more importantly trust them and they’ll trust you.

Kyle: You know this offense, you know where the ball is supposed to go. Just focus on making your reads and letting the defense show you where the ball should go. There is so much talent around you, don't hesitate to lean on Devin, EzE, Dontre, and the rest of those guys. Your job is to let them make plays. Give them chances to be explosive, and we're walking out of here with a W.

DJ: One day — maybe tomorrow —  the sun is going to explode and wipe mankind from his miserable existence on this shitty intergalactic pebble we call home. Everything you see around you, the stadiums, the fans, you... will one day be nothing ash at the bottom of our galaxy's ashtray. So who gives a shit what happens today? What do you ultimately have to lose? You came to Ohio State for this day. You came to Ohio State so you could one day lead the Scarlet and Gray to victory. So don't let some pissant like the fear of failure stand in the way of what you came here to do. Now go out there and make a goddamn play for your team.

It's almost GO TIME
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Abe Froman's picture

It's weird, but I am actually excited to see the defense on the field this year.  Sure the D-Line is a big reason, but it will be interesting to watch the LB situation unfold and the Defensive Backfield surprise people.  Barrett IV is just another piece of the pie.... I like pie.

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Me too-I don't know why, but I always enjoy watching the Defense more (not the last few seasons).  A strong defense just seems to be able to impose the will of a team on the opponent, more so than the offense.  I know the offense puts the majority of the points up, but when the defense is flying around and knocking blocks off, it just seems to deflate the opponent entirely, and ratchet up our team that much more.

whiskeyjuice's picture

I wonder what kind of scheme Freddy Pagac was using? With his defenses, he tore teams up with timing blitzes. and they seem to have come from every position. I remember the 96' year distinctly. The defense was crazy good with tackling and blitzing.

"You'll find out that nothing that comes easy is worth a dime. As a matter of fact, I never saw a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face." -- Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

It was like the D was playing with 15 players sometimes.  It seemed like there was 7 or 8 guys coming, and still 6 or 7 in coverage.

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LouGroza's picture

I remember Winfield coming on corner blitzes when least expected. Would love to see a Pagac type defense again, very fun to watch. And you are right, they could really tackle.

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BeijingBucks's picture

yeah Defense that is watchable makes the day so much brighter!  Only so many times you can get up to get another snack cause you can't bring yourself to watch until the O gets the ball back

 

 

None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. ~ John Milton

dlb72osu's picture

Maybe, but I just didn't like that Tim Biakabatuka fellow running up 313 yards against the '96 defense that cost OSU the B1G Championship ( that went to Northwestern) and the best shot they had for a NC. But other than that little hiccup, yeah, they were pretty good. And those mighty wolverines took their sorry-ass 9-3 record away with another victory over a heavily favored OSU team ranked #2 in the nation. But I never heard anybody say they wanted to fire Pagac after that.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.
- Invictus

bucks4nuts's picture

No question... It will be a fun, interesting and shocking season. 

"To The House"

GoBucks10's picture

1 more week. So glad I just got cable...

"Because I couldn't go for three."  - Woody Hayes

robobuck's picture

but did you get CBS Sports?

Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it.  1 Corinthians 9:24

Damonbuckeye's picture

This could be one of Urbans most trying years as a coach.. I hope he can pull a rabbit out of his hat and show buckeye nation why he's considered one of the best coaches in football like we all believe he is....

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whiskeyjuice's picture

This will be a test of his event, outcome, response equation. He has trained the team to overcome adversity in life and football

"You'll find out that nothing that comes easy is worth a dime. As a matter of fact, I never saw a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face." -- Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Outside of an injury, there's no way EZE doesn't get 1000yds.  I know the # of playmakers is ridiculous, but he's going to average 5yds a carry at minimum, so that's only 200 carries.  That's only 16-17 carries a game, for 12 games.  The average carries per game obviously goes down the more games we play, and I don't see any reason to think OSU won't be in the conversation for the B1G title game and the playoffs.  MSU is the only realistic hurdle, mainly because they are the defending champs and it's on the road at night (so is PSU, but they don't have the horses yet).  Navy will be a challenge, but the Va Tech and Cinci are at home at night (not losing those).

swainpm's picture

Johnnykozmo it will be hard for EZE to gain yards if he is beaten out by Rod Smith. Many of us still think this could happen. At the very least they will split the carries.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

That's fair, but nothing has been reported to that effect with any certainty.  Obviously if he is beaten out that would change things.

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jonping67's picture
  1. Best coach in college football - Check
  2. Talented team full of 4 & 5 stars - Check
  3. Manageable schedule - Check
  4. Fast team with something to prove - Check

If we can win our first 2 game against Navy and VT and JT gains some additional confidence this team will be ready come the game in East Lansing. When, not if, we are done knocking off Sparty this team will be rolling right into a playoff position.

13-0 and a playoff team is my prediction!

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Buckifan4Life's picture

I think they can do it. JT is gonna be just fine and the secondary is going to remind us of what it was like to lean on the defense. They can use the disrespect they are enduring due to Braxton's injury to their advantage and I think they will. Go Bucks! 

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allinosu's picture

More important to have team stats than individual's accomplishments. Would like to have 200+ a game between 4-5 backs.

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buckeye phi's picture

Amen, brother!  It's a team sport.

That's why - while losing Braxton hurts - the rest of the team should be able to use all this talk of them having no chance without him as motivation.

Plus - he didn't play defense -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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CGroverL's picture

200?

300!

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

AndyVance's picture

Chris: <Leslie Nielsen voice>I just wanna tell you Good luck. We’re all counting on you.<Leslie Nielsen voice /

Chris wins the interwebz today. Best answer of the whole roundtable.

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MN Buckeye's picture

We've got great coaching. We're not just flying on instruments.

gumtape's picture

Love this segment, recruiting analysts and beat reporters stepping out of their usual roles to give opinions.

just another psycho, irrational, delusional Ohio St fan

IH8UOFM's picture

Every time I tell someone "Good Luck" now, this is all I can think of.

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Montana silver bullet's picture

Agreed . There has been so much locker room material put out there this last week the boys will be motivated all season--

Montana Silver Bullet

TURD_BUCKET's picture

There seems to be more talent, potential, and depth all over this team than there has been in a very, very long time. I can't wait for it to start and see how it all plays out. GO BUCKS!

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.”

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BroJim's picture

Good article, thanks.
Should we shift topics to Barrett's health? If he goes down we send in the third man. . .

I season my simple food with hunger

DCBuckeye33's picture

I like ramzys season prediction. I've changed my tune. To hell with emotional hedging, 15-0 or bust

GO BUCKS

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Ashtabula's picture

DJ: Best pep talk ever!

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

He was channeling Rust Cole from True Detective

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Chark's picture

I am fired up for this season!

Alcohol will not solve any of your problems, but then again, neither will milk or water.

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buckeyedude's picture

That expresses my feelings perfectly, Chark(?). Thanks. I'm STILL so jacked for this season!

 

 

Jbucks's picture

I think were about to see a very DANGEROUS, a very HUNGRY football team! i dont care that we lost XBraX anymore (of course id rather have him in there) he will be missed on football field, but NOT on the sideline where JT will have him in his ear before every drive telling him look for this make sure you do that, that was a great job but make sure next time u make this adjustment... JT has a long ways to go to reach his possible potential vut the people around him will make it a smooth transition for him. Were gonna see alot of PISSED OFFF players this year, eith missing one player and the team gets written off all together by the national media? Im excited i have a feeling about this team that i havent had in a long while. Im glad we play Navy and Va Tech to start off the season, good competition for a young QB to get his feet wet. Also with VA techs Defense we will get to see how the young leader does under a bit of pressure and also how this Defense has improved, we might need to lean on our D in some games and with VA Techs Defense we might need to lean on our D to make the offense as comfortable as possible!!! CANT WAIT!!!!!!
Also is Samuel really faster than Dontre ive heard it before but do we have clear cut proof?

Light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it-John 1:5 SEC meet Ohio State, Ohio State meet SEC

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hetuck's picture

I'll add Meyer's favorite in all caps: We're going to see an ANGRY football team,

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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Lincoln's picture

I just think we need to get the fast players in space and have them make plays

Sorry I just watched some ESPN classic with Herby calling the game.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

DJ, I just ran through a wall, came back to type this, and will now run through another wall.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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Ahh Saturday's picture

A little too much respect being given to Sparty by this panel. They beat the Buckeyes last year because our secondary was in shambles and our whole team was tight with the expectations of playing in the national championship game. I think both of those problems have been dealt with this off-season. With Braxton in the lineup the game in EL was a slam dunk win. With JTB I'll have to wait and see, but the whole team will be hungry and have eight games under their belt by the time they play MSU. 

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ScarletGrayFire's picture

The flexibility that our offensive talent gives us is incredible:

  • Speed package:  Dontre, Jalin, Devin, Johnny, Curtis, and Barrett (Zeke, James, Terry, Corey, Parris, etc.)
  • Jumbo package:  Greene, Thomas, Spencer, Heuerman, Vannett, and Jones (Zeke, Noah, Rod, Warren, etc.)

We can be INCREDIBLY fast, INCREDIBLY powerful, or any combination thereof...  This really will be a coaching chess game, because the wealth of skill talent and diversity of scheme possibilities is simply ridiculous.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Haven't thought about this before, but I like it.  Especially the Jumbo package, to put a team away that wants to hang around.

PittBuckeye's picture

Best answer: Ramzy on Ohio State's record.

Sign that they asked one to many questions for DJ to be sober: The what would you tell JT question.

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Bucksfan's picture

There is a 99.3333, repeating of course, % chance of you getting an upvote.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

Re: 15-0. Ramzy - I like your style. I'm in for 15 - 0 too. Searching for a way to get a few hundo on those juicy Vegas odds.

Sicily of the 614's picture

I like Ramzy's optimism! 15-0 sounds good to me. I think 11 wins sounds more likely but, as my wife always insists, positive thoughts yield positive results. Something like that.

Nobody panic

ibuck's picture

Your wife sounds like a gem.

Our honor defend, we will fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

Sicily of the 614's picture

She drops the occasional pearls of wisdom. Mostly in the form of "I told you so's" : )

Nobody panic

ibuck's picture

Oh.  "I told you so" and wisdom don't equate, IMO.

Our honor defend, we will fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

FROMTHE18's picture

Johnny seems to have little faith in our team vs Navy. I think it'll be a tough game but calling it 50/50 seems a bit too much like 'the sky is falling'… I sat 10-2 regular season. Losses at MSU and at Penn State. 

BeatTTUN's picture

This is unbelievable. Johnny, Tim & Kyle You guys are acting like this is some throw away season up in Rochester.
Who we playing this season Ramzy?

Go Buckeyes Beat Michigan

Buckeye1996's picture

I just don't see us losing to MSU.

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chitown buckeye's picture

I agree. Trying to wrap my head around all this MSU hype. They had a great season last year but they even struggled at times. 14pts against Purdue and Minnesota. 13 pts against ND in a losing effort. In 2012 they went 7-6 overall with a 3-5 Big record. For Kyle to not think we wouldn't even win with Braxton is crazy to me. They beat us last year with our historically bad defense. Stanford was a quality bowl win however, Stanford plays into MSU's strengths. The talk around here you'd think MSU was Bama. They lost some key components to their defense. Aside from it being in East Lansing, not sure how they are a stronger team then OSU? MSU is one of the most up and down programs in the country. "Sparty going to Sparty" is a phrase for a reason. I will gladly eat Birms shoe on this but I don't believe MSU is going to be a loss for us. 

"I'm having a heart attack!"

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CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

Too many people putting the Buckeyes down a notch right now.  I think this motivates the team to new heights and they come out of the gates tearin it up!  I think they can win all of their games and the B1G.  This team can still be a playoff team.

Go Bucks!!

M Man's picture

I want to preface this by saying I am not predicting bad things for the Buckeyes this year.  I wish to do no such thing.  I don't mind being a contrarian, but not simply for the sake of contrariness.  More than anything, I want to be right.

But I am really unclear about why Barrett has automatically been made the heir apparent, and why his personal performance means so much.  Exactly a year ago at this time, I said that the biggest plus on Ohio State's side was Kenny Guiton.

Now, I want to say that I am not at all convinced that this year belongs to Barrett.  Cardale Jones is the kind of physical presence that a team needs in the Big Ten conference schedule.  You are going to need Cardale Jones at some point this year.  More, I'd guess, than you needed Guiton last year.

PittBuckeye's picture

I just can't bring myself to openly agree with you. But I'm going to say I don't disagree, and I'm a big Cardale fan.

FROMTHE18's picture

Cardale Jones is a poorer man's version of Gardner (if thats even possible). Cardale is a physical beast, but with him in the game, if he drops back to pass, I would put a greater than 50% chance he forces a throw and a 50% chance its going to be a pick. 

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M Man's picture

I think pretty highly of Cardale Jones; I agree that he's a physical beast.

If Cardale Jones could put up season-long QB numbers like Devin Gardner, it would be a good year for the Buckeyes.  The only way that Braxton Miller exceeded Gardner's QB rating was with his running; throwing for shorter and more high-percentage plays, and getting away with fewer sacks.

Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

Dude... Devin Gardner sucks. Not trying to pick a fight and I know your o-line was bad, but Gardner isn't very good either. 

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PittBuckeye's picture

What in the world are you basing that off of?

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Rob Reese's picture

Corey Smith is going to lead Ohio State in catches. A lot; Corey Smith is going to have a lot of catches

This has been my largely under-the-radar pick for an explosive season, too.  

"All I have known at Michigan is failure.  That's all I know." - Taylor Lewan

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Silver_bullet_tex's picture

I'm with you DJ. I'm going to be just as disappointed at the end of the season if we aren't 15-0. 14-1 or 9-3 or 2-13. It doesn't matter what logic you try and sell me, THE Ohio State University are the rightful champions. At least in my head. Maybe I'm wrong.

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BeijingBucks's picture

at the moment i don't care about records to be honest.  I just want to see all these amazing players we've amassed go out and show the world they are for real.  Of course I will be saddened if we lose one or so along the way, but I fear JT will take it all on his shoulders and that could be a very bad thing.

there is so much new from the O Line to the defense back 7 to the WRs to the LBs to the water boys to the video analysts that need to all learn to do their part.

Braxton going down just gave Buckeye fans a year of reduced ulcer medication once they gain perspective a tad.

if it happens... amazing.  if not... still pretty amazing to get to watch this year unfold

 

 

None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. ~ John Milton

ibuck's picture

Block and tackle like you've been taught, and hang on to the football. One play at a time, and forget that last one.

And then we'll just see.

Our honor defend, we will fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

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QBYBuckeye's picture

The coaching staff spent this morning game-planning for Navy.  If that isn't enough to get you stoked, nothing is.

New York Buckeye

southbuc's picture

Michigan state is overhyped. They lost a bunch of talent and have really only had a couple decent seasons. They recruited well this year but their talent isn't in the Same zip code as OSU. I love dantonio but a key injury or two for them is far worse than OSU because they don't have the talent behind the starters. 

motobuckeye's picture

DJ, I just formed tackled my neighbor while he was mowing his grass because of that speech!!!...I'll be expecting bail money.

Spider1944's picture

Was it a blindside tackle? If so, I know a great bail bondsmen...

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

Jabba1977's picture

I think that Barret is more of a spread style quarterback,and Cardale is more of a Pro style quarterback.

SECHATER77

Frimmel's picture

I'm drinking the Kool-aid. I'm tired of being cynical and expecting "bad things" because it is realistic or pragmatic. It has gotten so easy to prepare for the worse that I've somehow forgotten what it's like to really hope and believe that the best will happen. And for some reason, maybe it is the elimination of the possibility of underachievement with Braxton being lost for the season, I'm remembering and liking believing the best will happen. Go Bucks!

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buckeye phi's picture

Here's a likely scenario for 2014.

Navy is always a little scary because of their unconventional offense.  Fortunately, being the opening game, the Buckeye defense has had plenty of time to prepare. 

The Midshipmen aren't much for throwing the ball, so the new pass-d shouldn't be tested significantly.  And if the OSU run-d plays up to anything resembling last year's level, J.T. Barrett and company shouldn't need to be too productive right off the bat.

The talent differential between the two squads will be dramatic.  Could be a relatively easy victory.

The next game could be much more difficult.  While Virginia Tech has certainly seen better days and they begin the season unranked, they're still a force to be reckoned with. 

They'll have a good defense this season (possibly the best cornerback tandom in the nation).  That'll free them up for some blitzing, etc.  Don't be surprised if that crafty old coach of theirs finds ways to give our green offensive line all kinds of trouble.

They should have a solid running game without much of a passing attack - which again, should play to the strength of the Buckeye defense.  Plus, this game is at home. 

All the "newbies" on the offense shouldn't have to be overly productive to get past the Hokies, either.

The point is - things are lined up well enough for the new quarterback and the new offensive line to establish themselves a little before they're pressed into situations where they must score and score alot. 

By the time a tough Cincinnati club hits town, they should be ready.  And by the time they travel to East Lansing, they'll practically be veterans!

They'll know long before that whether 15-0 is a pipe-dream or not -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

buckeye phi's picture

Here's a likely scenario for 2014.

Navy is always a little scary because of their unconventional offense.  Fortunately, being the opening game, the Buckeye defense has had plenty of time to prepare. 

The Midshipmen aren't much for throwing the ball, so the new pass-d shouldn't be tested significantly.  And if the OSU run-d plays up to anything resembling last year's level, J.T. Barrett and company shouldn't need to be too productive right off the bat.

The talent differential between the two squads will be dramatic.  Could be a relatively easy victory.

The next game could be much more difficult.  While Virginia Tech has certainly seen better days and they begin the season unranked, they're still a force to be reckoned with. 

They'll have a good defense this season (possibly the best cornerback tandom in the nation).  That'll free them up for some blitzing, etc.  Don't be surprised if that crafty old coach of theirs finds ways to give our green offensive line all kinds of trouble.

They should have a solid running game without much of a passing attack - which again, should play to the strength of the Buckeye defense.  Plus, this game is at home. 

All the "newbies" on the offense shouldn't have to be overly productive to get past the Hokies, either.

The point is - things are lined up well enough for the new quarterback and the new offensive line to establish themselves a little before they're pressed into situations where they must score and score alot. 

By the time a tough Cincinnati club hits town, they should be ready.  And by the time they travel to East Lansing, they'll practically be veterans!

They'll know long before that whether 15-0 is a pipe-dream or not -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

2 games bother me on our schedule: Michigan State and Penn State. Best case scenario. 13-1 with a loss in the playoffs. Realistic thought: 11-2 with a bowl win. 

ek68's picture

Braxton will be missed. Once he went down, IMO, "The DEFENSE" holds the key to the success or failure plain and simple.

 

 

 

artvandalay's picture

Guys,  Just a reminder. Everyone is talking about Navy not Throwing the ball, but remember the last time we played them, the game wasn't close because of the run. it was the two long passes that were completed. they set you up all day for the triple option and then when your safeties come up for support they pop the short slant. "Don't sleep on Navy"    Go Bucks!

TheVictoryBell45's picture

Our defensive line has to be better at getting off of blocks than they were a year ago. They have all the talent that you could ask for but I don't think they were consistently a great defensive line last season. They showed glimpses of being an elite defensive line but I don't think they've touched their full potential yet. I'm really excited to see how they perform under Larry Johnsons leadership. If you have a dominate defensive line you have a chance in any game. 

Icouldnotgofor3's picture

I would just tell Barrett to make his reads properly and go out and have fun. I don't give in at all to the practical "sure loss" mentality of most of losing to the Spartans in East Lansing. I think it will be a defensive struggle with Ohio State coming out with a TD or less VICTORY. On to the playoffs, and a beat down of FSU and a SEC team back to back to win it all. (Having high aspirations is great isn't it?)......lol...

woodysyardmarker

Spider1944's picture

Coach Fickell's adage "addition by subtraction" thingy applies to the loss of Braxton to this offense. There will be no BM to bail us out this year. Everyone has to step up not just TJ. I think this year you are going to have 4 receivers coming out of their breaks expecting to see the ball right there for the plucking.

This is going to be the most exciting year yet under UFM.

GO BUCKS, bring on the 2014 edition of The Ohio State University B1G champions!!!

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

Woody16111's picture

I have a hard time finding 3 losses on this schedule. I do agree Ohio State will lose a game they shouldn't, the Maryland game comes to mind. I also think Penn State will pose some problems. At this point, I'm chalking MSU up as a loss.

If Ohio State losses to either Navy or VaTech as one guy stated, it will be a long year.

I'm going to say 10-2 / 9-3. No Conf Title game, no national playoff.

MAVBuck's picture

One day — maybe tomorrow —  the sun is going to explode and wipe mankind from his miserable existence on this shitty intergalactic pebble we call home. Everything you see around you, the stadiums, the fans, you... will one day be nothing ash at the bottom of our galaxy's ashtray. So who gives a shit what happens today? What do you ultimately have to lose? You came to Ohio State for this day. You came to Ohio State so you could one day lead the Scarlet and Gray to victory. So don't let some pissant like the fear of failure stand in the way of what you came here to do. Now go out there and make a goddamn play for your team.

 DJ- Thanks for the help. I've been meaning to find a pregame speech for week 1 this Friday night. If this doesn't inspire today's youth and tomorrow's leaders, nothing will!

IBleedSandG's picture

With the overall talent on this squad, anything less than double digit wins will be a disappointment.

"You pick up the rifle and go as hard as you can possibly go."
-UFM