If J.T. Barrett is Called Upon, Herman, Meyer Have Confidence

By Tim Shoemaker on August 19, 2014 at 8:26a
Redshirt freshman J.T. Barrett may be stepping into big shoes soon. Braxton Miller's shoes to be precise.
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With Ohio State quarterback Braxton Miller’s status for the 2014 season up in the air after he re-injured his throwing shoulder during Monday’s practice, the Buckeyes may turn to redshirt freshman J.T. Barrett to guide them this year.

If Miller can’t go in Ohio State’s opener against Navy on Aug. 30, Barrett would be the likely starter as he has recently moved ahead of Cardale Jones on the depth chart to be the Buckeyes’ No. 2 option behind Miller.

“The offense moves better when he’s in there,” Ohio State offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Tom Herman said of Barrett in comparison to Jones on Monday. “... He’s probably completing more balls and making more of the right reads in the run game.”

“At the end of the day, the offense moves when he’s in...”– Tom Herman

“But at the end of the day, the offense moves when he’s in and sometimes it doesn’t as much, not that Cardale is doing a bad job, but the offense moves more frequently when J.T. is the quarterback and that’s the sign of a good one.”

Barrett has yet to take a snap in a game as a Buckeye after redshirting his true freshman year. He was coming off a torn ACL during his senior season in high school so he hasn’t played a full year of football since he was a high school junior.

But during that junior season, the Wichita Falls, Texas native threw for over 1,600 yards and ran for over 1,500 yards with nine touchdowns. Before his injury as a senior, Barrett ran for 569 yards, threw for 784 yards and had 12 total touchdowns.

Barrett may not be as explosive as a player like Miller, but not many are. Barrett was, however, rated as the No. 3 dual-threat quarterback in the country in 2013 by 247Sports and was a four star prospect out of Rider High School.

“A ton of intangibles. He’s reworked his body since he got here, came in kinda pudgy as a would-be high school senior and has basically spent a whole year reworking his body,” Herman said of Barrett in mid-February. “He’s shown a lot of leadership on the scout team this year so it’ll be interesting to see what he can do thrown into the fray."

While Herman may have said that of Barrett back in February, he didn’t anticipate Barrett potentially stepping into such a prominent role this season.

But Miller did not take any reps in spring ball as Jones and Barrett took the majority. As the starter for the Gray team in April’s Spring Game, Barrett went 15 for 33 passing for 151 yards. 

 “He’s progressing,” Miller said of Barrett on Monday before his injury occurred. “Ever since he was a freshman, he’s been watching me and (Kenny Guiton) and he went through the spring and was taking all the reps every day in the spring. 

“As a quarterback you have to get better each and every practice and that’s what I see in him. He’s just taking a step up and he’s learning each and every day.”

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Herman has always been optimistic of Barrett’s ability and with the recent news that Miller could possibly miss some game time, it’s a perfect opportunity for the redshirt freshman to show what he is capable of doing.

“His high school coach, Jim Garfield, and his parents deserve a ton of credit because he is a hell of a leader,” Herman said of Barrett in February. “You wanna talk about intangibles and just being able to feel when guys kinda have that ‘it’ factor? He’s got that. And then he’s got a quick release, he’s pretty accurate. Those things are what drew us toward him.”

“He’s done laying in the weeds and now he’s gotta go get out of the weeds and go attack this thing.”

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jeremytwoface's picture

I think JT Barrett could be something special here.

The key words being could be....

I'm not sure I see this team winning more than 8 games with starting... and that's me being optimistic. Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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chitown buckeye's picture

Not sure where the losses are coming from? VT?, Cincy? MSU ? PSU? UM? If Braxton went pro last yr would you still be writing off these games? My guess is you're going to be pleasantly surprised...

"I'm having a heart attack!"

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jeremytwoface's picture

I hope that's the case... I may be being a little pessimistic about it but I don't want to have too high of hopes. 

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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chitown buckeye's picture

FWIW I gave you an up vote for your opinion. Not sure why the down votes aside from everyone is on edge with anyone being pessimistic. My response was looking for actual conversation. Where do u think the losses are coming from? Even without Braxton I still feel as if we will be favored in every game but MSU. And that game is a long way away. I think the defense's improvement is way more important than losing Braxton. Lets face it if the defense is as bad as last year it wouldn't matter if it is Braxton, JT, you or me behind center. We aren't winning the Title. Don't be afraid to get those hopes up!! We could all be smiling looking back on this thread 3 months from now!

"I'm having a heart attack!"

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jeremytwoface's picture

I agree... if our pass defense can improve we probably won't lose many games. Like a lot of people, I can definitely see us losing to MSU. I think Michigan always plays up to us (or we play down to them)... So that could be a loss. If our pass defense doesn't improve, I could see Penn State giving us some trouble especially considering its a night game at Happy Valley.

So that's 3 right there... It could be especially brutal if we don't have a running back step up. Like I said, I hope I'm dead wrong.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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Rudy's picture

I agree, have a lot of faith in Barrett

mphillips87's picture

Braxton won 6 games his Freshman season with one of the worst OSU offenses in recent memory.  This offense has enough weapons that even a "game-manager" type QB can still win 9-10 games. 

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TNBuckeye1421's picture

I agree Braxton was thrown in after thinking TP was going to be the starter for a year... also had to see Tress leave. I think Barrett or Jones will be fine... We have one of the best staffs in the country no time to panic.

JUST A THOUGHT.... If we need some explosive plays could we see Marshall take the snap with Wilson and Samuel in the backfield? Smith if he is running as well as he looking in camp?

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Shangheyed's picture

Glad we have Cardale at back up, he has a few yrs under his belt, knows the system, has a strong arm and some intangibles at 6'5" 250.  

Earle's picture

Those are some pretty good tangibles, too.

Italics are for emphasis.

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Shangheyed's picture

Haha indeed tangibles... I am just happy I spelled it right! 

Obstacle22's picture

Here Here

 

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THE's picture

Agree. I think he will actually run the offense, just like Kenny G did last year, just not as polished at first. 

We have burners for days and all Barrett has to do is get them the rock, quickly, similar to McCarron at Bama. Just get the ball in the right spot and let dudes run. We still have more talent than everyone we play, just need some cohesiveness. 

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THEOSUfan's picture

One thing I will be looking for: does he read the zone READ play correctly.  Brax, brilliant as he is, didn't do that well.

If Ohio State gets compentent O line play, I think our guys and JT will be just fine.

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ponder10's picture

One thing I came away with watching Barrett in his HS films is that I see a kid that really knows how to run the zone/read offense. At times many of us would get frustrated with Braxton's inability to make the right read at the right time. Barrett seems to make great reads based upon the positioning of the DL.

Additionally, last year Braxton was like Aroldis Chapman and became obsessed with the fastball. He needed to have a changeup in his arsenal and he just didnt. A perfect example was his last pass against Clemson. Had he finessed that ball over the LB it may have been a great play... Instead he throws a line drive and it was picked off. Barrett seems to be a better pure passer than Braxton.

Where Barrett lacks is that he doesnt have the pure, freak-nasty, athletic ability that Miller has.

I'm going to choose to be optimistic about this one.

“In the end we will conserve only what we love. We will love only what we understand. We will understand only what we are taught.” ~ Baba Dioum

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Meatchicken's picture

Good summary.  I wouldn't be too worried as a buckeye fan.  Truly sorry for Braxton, hate to see that.  He was a huge part of the O's stat line, but OSU's got a talented supporting cast, and relying more on them will bring out their best (an ownership thing).  The offensive load will be more distributed.  If Barrett can limit turnovers in early games, OSU wins (probably anyway), and he'll gain confidence.  He's not the runner that Braxton is, but he's way closer to Braxton than McCarron on that scale.  If Barrett's got that clutch-throw knack that has eluded Braxton too often, OSU just might be a better playoff team with Barrett - IF you win the B1G East first, and I'm not talking just Sparty.  Yes, the Wolverines will be competitive, and with some early luck, maybe even contenders.  Our D is solid and deep, and don't underestimate the Nuss-factor - sorry, got a little off topic there.

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AJBor41's picture

No downvotes from me, JTF. I don't see anything inappropriate or rude in your post, just an honest opinion. I think you're right, JT could be something special, but will likely have some growing pains along the way. Nobody knows for sure how he will react and play.

That said, I will side with the others in that I think the future looks brighter than 8 wins, even if Braxton were to miss the entire season. For me, Kent State, Rutgers and Illinois are wins any day of the week regardless of which OSU scholarship player lines up to take snaps. After that, Navy, Cincinnati, Maryland and Indiana should be wins 95% of the time. If you'd have me believe that our remaining games of VT, MSU, PSU, Minnesota and TSUN only yield one victory, then I'll strongly disagree.

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jeremytwoface's picture

Hey thanks... I can see where people would disagree with me, but I wasn't trolling or anything. Maybe I was being a little pessimistic about it but that's because I don't want to get my hopes up. You lose a player like Braxton and a lot of things can happen.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Shame on you for trying to be realistic and cautious. 

STAFF:  when a post reaches the negative limit (-11 as above), can you only inactivate the downvote button and leave the upvote button active?  I think the post above doesn't violate the comment policy and would like to upvote it but I can't because of misuse of the voting system.

Read my entire screen name....

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zenshade's picture

That's a good thought. But then you'd also have to re-enable the down vote button as soon they rose above -11. I like it though. That's a javascript function I'd be willing to write for free.

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Yea, I was thinking of giving a 2-3 vote grace period.  Downvote button re-activating at -7 or -8

Read my entire screen name....

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jeremytwoface's picture

Shame on you for trying to be realistic and cautious. 

Ha yeah. I'm not sure what happened.

I posted that comment and then forgot about it and I come back to see I've been down-voted to the limit. Oh well... No skin off my back.

I would rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed since my expectations were too high. We'll see how the season plays out. 

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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Shangheyed's picture

I upvoted his rebutle for that very reason....

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jonping67's picture

We won a National Championship with Craig Krentzel at QB.
Defense wins championships and we need the Silver Bullet to return and well be in the hunt.
I have faith in the system and Barrett, we'll be just fine.

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Habu71's picture

It's the reason you came to TOSU, time to shine young man. Go Bucks!

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Burnsy's picture

Thank you. All of this "the sky is falling" crap is making me sad for our fan base. We recruit well and have good coaches. Have some faith in the next man up. 

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Nuts4Bucks13's picture

Exactly. I grew up in New England and as a Patriots fan, well, I learned that sometimes backup QBs can come in and do quite nicely ;).

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What Would Troy Smith Do's picture

I should totally downvote you for the Patriots reference and the fact that you are referring to a TTUN ex.  Haha.  I won't do it though.

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Nuts4Bucks13's picture

Hey, my most important allegiance, my alma mater, is all that matters. But thanks for sparing me haha.

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What Would Troy Smith Do's picture

haha.  Couldn't get on all day, but it looks like others didn't share my restraint.  Never speak well of Brady. haha.

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nikolajz1's picture

Johnny Football came out of no where. If Herman opens up the playbook we might just be ok. Best thing about this is JT has been getting 1st team reps for 6 months so he is ahead of schedule.

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USArmyBuckeye's picture

Couldn't agree more.  Unproven does NOT equal unworthy.  Couple his potential with the increased reps in the off season and I see no reason why the team has to take a large step back.  Of course you can never truly replace a guy like Braxton, but I see no reason to have anything but high hopes for the coming season! 
 

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Totally agree.  Watching JT's highlight tape, this young man can run the read option very well, and he is quicker than I could remember.  We may take a small step backward in losing Brax, but this is Ohio State.  We don't restock, we simply reload.  It's next man up, and let's go win some football games.

Does this hurt our national championship aspirations?  First look is certainly a yes answer.  But let's give JT time to grow, learn, and mature this season.  He just may lead us to the promise land that many think is now unattainable.

Marc Pocock (a.k.a NuttyBuckeye)

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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RunningFree's picture

Everything that I hear about JT is positive... and you have to remember he's going against an elite defensive line and a revamped secondary every day.  

You touch on a very important point about the read option.  Kenny may not have had the skill-set Braxton had, but he was an artist with the option - always making the right read.  The teams he played were a bit questionable, but it made many wonder if his decision making was better than Braxton's. In this offense the QB doesn't have to be explosive, you just have to be smart and make the right read.  Get the ball to your playmakers in space or make a good read and keep for a quick 5-10 yd pickup.

We'll miss Braxton's knack for the "wow" factor this year, but I'm confident JT will do alright... even if it does take some growing pains.  It's time for the O-line and playmakers to step up!

Nick's picture

Imagine that scenario. JT leads us to a national title does Miller redshirt and then takeover the team from a young title winner?

southbuc's picture

C'mon guys. We won a natty with craig friggin krenzel!  Jameis and Johnny were both freshman when they won the Heisman and they didn't have tom Herman or urban Meyer as coaches. Truthfully our defense being fixed is more important 

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chitown buckeye's picture

I'll add that Urban Meyer also beat a hell of a football team by having a stud D-line and Chris Leak at the helm.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

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Vberger's picture

I may have given up hope for a good 2014 when I heard the Braxton news, but after a good night's sleep, I'm ready to be positive and hope for big things for JT. 

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IH8UOFM's picture

They've spoke glowingly about his leadership qualities...even as a freshman. You cant teach that.

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Otown Buckeye's picture

If Tee Martin and Matt Flynn can win it all.......

"because we couldn't go for three"

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lippertini's picture

I'll def agree w/ Tee Martin and your overall point, but Matt Flynn was a fifth year senior, and is now in the NFL where he threw for 480 yards and 6 TD's in one game for the Packers, which neither Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers ever bested.  

Crimson's picture

Matt Flynn isn't special.  He's good, but he isn't an NFL starter.  480 yards and 6 TDs?  Yeah, but it was against the Lions.*  I could probably do that, and I've never played QB in my life.

*And I'm a Lions fan.

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apack614's picture

J.T., you got this. Everything you've ever wanted is dangling right in front of you! Go get it! Good luck and Go Bucks!

"If we worked half as hard as our band, we'd be champions." - Woody Hayes

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BUCKI06's picture

I'm wishing Cardale was still the backup, only so we could see this headline...

"Time for the Buckeyes to show the nation they ain't come to play school".

"As long as we're keeping score, we're gonna try to win this thing." - UFM

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What Would Troy Smith Do's picture

When we recruited him I was pretty excited about his possibility.  I am totally psyched for him to take over and run wit……….wait, this isn't August 2015???  Well, crap.

Looks like the Barrett era gets started a little early.  Let's all rally behind him and Miller.

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shortbus20's picture

This from Kirk Barton via twitter     I agree

Kirk Barton ‏@Kirk_Barton  6m

Braxton went 12-0,  Tebow won a Heisman, Both did it as 19 year old 2nd year guys. Don't panic. Coach Meyer knows what he is doing #OhioState

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FROMTHE18's picture

Time to see what the kids got. 

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AlwayzABuckeye614's picture

It think its a good thing he's been taking reps since the spring, if that wasn't the case I would be a lot more worried than I am now. 

Not to mention he has been in the system for over a year and a half watching and learning. I know nothing compares to in game experience, but I think he has the mental aspect of it down. Go Bucks!

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wyatt's picture

I want a fully healthy QB. The opposing team would target any weak player, especially QB.  I'm fully confident in J.T.  

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

There is time for JT and the coaches to get his head right. He should get most of the snaps / reps in practice now. The coaches had to consider this a possibility for awhile now, right? One would hope anyway.

GO BUCKS!

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Vinsaniti's picture

I think everything will be fine. Remember '02? Defense wins championships, Chris Ash, Larry Johnson, and Luke Fickell have fixed the D and all the offense has to do is run the system Tom Herman has in place. We will be fine JT is a stud, has alot of potential, and has A LOT of first team reps.

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Barnsey69's picture

I agree with the Barton quote as well, way to early to bag any goals set for this season. The 2002 team won with a smart, accurate QB who knew how to run the offense, and that was complemented by a lights out defense. No reason to think we don't have the same ingredients this year. If Braxton can come back, great. If not, the show goes on and it will be a good one.

GO BUCKS!

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IGotAWoody's picture

I totally agree, Pyle. Now hand me that rifle....

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bucknuthoffy7's picture

As devastating as Miller's injury appears to be now, I'm looking forward to seeing what Barrett can do this year. He sounds like a great leader, a pretty accurate passer along with good mobility. If the young offensive line can step up and the skill guys can take a lot of pressure off him we could be in for a special season like with krenzel and clarret. This should only make the Buckeyes a lot better for next year. You have to believe that our D will be a lot better too. I'm not about to give up on this season yet.

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gobucks96's picture

I'll take some good articles at this point... Good luck to the kid. He has some serious weapons at his side. 

The flip side is, if Braxton is only out for a short time, Jt's going to get some serious reps and could be a quality backup for the rest of the season.

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Matt M.'s picture

You know, I'm familiar with another JT who won a National Championship with the Buckeyes unexpectedly. ;)

#QuietTime

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Dougger's picture

JT hasn't played any real-game snaps yet, but Greg McElroy won one...!!!??? I think JT could be way better than that. And he enrolled early last year did he not?

I like football

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Frimmel's picture

JT2 is a redshirt freshman.

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

Right, but what he was asking was about last year (2013), and he would be correct. JT enrolled early in spring of 2013 but he was still on the mend with the ACL injury and couldn't do much physically. But it couldn't have hurt his development to have been in the program and exposed to the offense for over 1 1/2 years now.

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Bamabucknut's picture

You made the point I was going to make. JT has been studying our offense for 2 years. That's quite an advantage.

phxbuck's picture

If I would have told you last August that a guy named Connor Cook was going to out play the Bucks for the conference crown and win a rose bowl you would have laughed and the down votes would have been epic. All is not lost, just some patience in September.

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mtrotb's picture

John Thomas Barrett, come on down and leads us.  All the other players have to reach back and block better, tackle better ...  We can overcome Superman's injury.

mtrotb

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Myc24's picture

Neither Jones nor Barrett are scrubs who should be starting for MAC teams. They are guys who were highly recruited and come with a combined 7 stars depending on which scouting service you use. Jones had offers from Penn State, TTUN, Illinois, and Iowa among others for goodness sake. If Braxton is injured and done for the year, we're in the same boat as if he had left for the draft. Trust the recruiting, trust the coaches, trust in the other Buckeyes on the field. I believe we can still compete for a B1G title and a spot in the playoffs no matter which one of our guys are running the offense. My fingers are crossed for Braxton to recover and be his amazing self and go on to do great things, but I also believe in this team and UFM. Eleven days. Still excited. Let's Go Bucks!   

"Because I couldn't go for three!"  - Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Neither Jones nor Barrett are scrubs

And that's a good thing, because I don't want no scrubs.

Read my entire screen name....

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DannyBeane's picture

Really? You're not aware that's a TLC song...

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BuckeyeStrong2's picture

I think you missed the fact that he knew what he did there.

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DannyBeane's picture

I was quoting The Other Guys

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Shangheyed's picture

Hope the compeition continues to make them both better.  Glad Jones is there, rather than a Frosh.

osu407's picture

I was excited to see him in the fourth quarter of games this year, and despite the unfortunate circumstances, I'm excited to see him starting in the first quarter. 

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BuddhaBuck's picture

The last time we had a QB wear #16, we did okay.

Don't text while driving.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I think what Meyer said about the offense having a different flavor with the short passing game can only help JT. The shorter passes tend to be much higher percentage and less likely to get picked off. IF JT can master the short passing nobody can key on any one part of the offense. IF he can play with maturity and poise, especially in East Lansing in November, this could still be a great season.

Big hypotheticals I know. I'm just trying to get to the season opener. Still too damned far away.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

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Marcus Hall's Middle Fingers's picture

Remember folks, they scholarship the back-ups too, and for good reason. If you earn a football scholly at Ohio State, you are an elite player. J.T. is surrounded by talented skill players who can help take the load off of him. We'll be ok. 

Hoping for the best for Braxton in the meantime. 

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e135800's picture

We've got B1G backups, not MAC starters. So many people have tender va-jay jays thinking we'll less than 10 wins this year. It's tOSU. Read the same thing when Kenny G was first brought in, panic, panic, panic.  Seeing the same thing now.  I think it will be a fun season and no better time to get him some work. I think if we are still undefeated for the sparty game and Brax is healthy, we leave JT as the starter.

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GordonGee4Ever's picture

If Urban has confidence in JT then we gotta jump on the wagon with him. Still would be disappointing to have Miller out for his senior season, he has been through a lot. But in the end it's #InUrbanWeTrust

All roads lead back to Columbus

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dubjayfootball90's picture

We recruited this guy for a reason. Maybe coming in earlier than many would like, but he plays for Ohio State for a reason. Remember that.

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

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Catfish Biff's picture

So, are we talking Joe Bauserman bad or seriviceable like Scott Mullen?

..Til' we wobble in our shoes!

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cplunk's picture

There is a good chance we're talking another Braxton. He's young and will take some time, but the dude is talented. He was the country's number 1 rated dual threat quarterback when recruited. The country's number 1. He was offered by LSU, Baylor (hey, do they throw the ball every once in awhile?), Texas Tech (hey, do they throw the ball every once in awhile?) and he played his high school ball in Texas.

Not sure why you'd think we're talking Bauserman or Mullen. We're talking the future of the Bucks. He would have taken over for Brax this year if Brax left anyway, next year if Brax didn't.

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Catfish Biff's picture

If I follow that logic, then Barrett should be clearly supplanting Jones. He's not though, he's battling.

There will be a drop off but hopefully it's just relative to what we know from Miller and we gain something more as an offset. I seem to remember coach comments about not having the luxury of Kenny G though too.

i apologize for blaspheming and using a certain 2011 quarterback's name.

..Til' we wobble in our shoes!

cplunk's picture

Doesn't work that way. QBs don't start out as what they will be. Troy Smith came out of the spring battling with Justin Zwick. And Braxton came out battling with the aforementioned Bauserman.

Barrett not having supplanted Jones easily doesn't really mean much in terms of judging what he will be.

Myc24's picture

We do not speak that name, good sir. It is uncalled for. We must refer to him as He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, lest he return.
 

"Because I couldn't go for three!"  - Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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northcampus's picture

Barrett's preparation and hard work since he arrived on campus is going to surprise a lot of people this year who are suddenly writing this team off.  GO BUCKS!!

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northwest_buckeye's picture

At the end of the day, JT is the guy we'd all be talking up this offseason as Brax's replacement. The hell with waiting, let's start hyping JT up now. Meyer, Herman, et al say he's a leader. They say his accuracy is spot on. His tapes show that he can be mobile. He's got "it," so they say. I'll trust what the coaches have to say and what his youtube tapes show he can do.

Fuck it. If JT is gonna be our guy, I'm on board.

I've never said I 'hate' anyone because that would imply I had any emotion for them whatsoever.

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MauricXe's picture

i'm digging all the optimism for JT. I must say I also agree with it...for the most part.

I'm still a bit worried about growing pains. He is gonna make a bad read more often that Miller, but I suspect he is a better passer. with the talent around him, he should be okay. I can't see him be any worse of a passer than Tebow....and he did alright ;)

If braxton is down for the season, or most of it, I feel so sorry for the kid. This is not how his legacy should have ended. Starting as a freshmen when he should have been behind TP, and taking that illegal shot from that dbag Shuey (he will forever be on my list and I wish woody were still around lol), he has been a soldier for the buckeyes. Thanks for stepping up and giving it your all Brax. we were lucky to have you.

I'm not sure if i prefer him to sitout for the season and avoid further injury, or to get back in there if he is cleared. i'm not sure what's best for his nfl career. he has a family to support so I know he will make the best choice for them.

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MN Buckeye's picture

It will all be okay. It will all be okay. It will all be okay. (More deep breaths)

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D. Anthony's picture

He will get the ball out quick to the playmakers, he's a few notches below Braxton as a runner, but he looks as good running, if not better, than Troy Smith...with a quicker release and better accuracy than Braxton showed as a Sophomore...sky is still the limit. Think Chris Leake running the Gators offensive against us...quick, short passes to a deep pool of playmakers. Think Tennessee, when people thought they were done when Peyton graduated...the won the title the NEXT year with Tee Martin. This is going to be exciting. The team relied way too much on Braxton 2 years ago, then way too much on Braxton and Hyde last year...Braxton would've been likely ridden too much or continued to feel like he needed to do too much...I want Braxton in there, but I think the rest of the offensive playmakers will have to really grow, and really will grow more with more weight on their shoulders, they'll definitely be asked to do more. No 1-2 guys to lean on too much.

D. Anthony

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TMac's picture

Under JT in 2002, with JT under center in 2014

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avail31678's picture

Remember when T.P. was a freshman and we won a ton of games?  JT has more weapons at his disposal and will likely get to throw the ball more than Tressel allowed.  We can still have a hell of a season friends.  I'm excited  -  no matter what, we got foosball in 11 days!!

(That said, I am so bummed for Brax.  Easily on the short list of greatest Buckeyes of all time.  Would have led all Buckeye QBs in many categories after this year.)

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Denny's picture

AJ Hawk was a three (3)-star recruit

Taquitos.

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llong2's picture

JT doesn't need to have a big arm to be successful in this offense. He just needs to get the ball to his playmakers accurately and on time and they will be fine!!!

Bear79

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chitown buckeye's picture

This is exactly right. It seems like people think he needs to put up 3500 yds thru the air for us to win. He doesn't need to win us games just don't lose games with turnovers, etc.. There will be growing pains but he has a great supporting cast that should help take a lot of pressure off him. Handle the ball with care and move the chains.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

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BuckeyeNation's picture

Last night when the news first broke everybody panicked, this site crashed & the sky had just fell and caved in the entire planet. This morning, after a well deserved good night's sleep, I am proud to call myself a Buckeye & a 11wr!! Kudos to everyone on this site for staying positive and looking forward to what the future may bring! One upvote for everyone on this fine morning.

GO BUCKS !!!

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gljackman's picture

Let's keep in mind that J.T. was the #3 Dual Threat QB in his class and he has had a year to absorb the Urban Meyer offense. He is a Redshirt Freshman, but so were both Manziel and Winston and they both won the Heisman! So lets have faith in our coaching staff and the rest of the Buckeye team to support this talented young man and put him in the best position to win each and every game. Urban has always said, since his first days here, "it's always a next man up mentality" and here we are. NEXT MAN UP!!!

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tosubuckeye's picture

Hoping and praying Braxton has a full recovery. I believe, as was reported, that JT is tailor-made for our offense, which calls for quick reads and ball-out-of-hand. JT gives our playmakers the best opportunity/advantage of any of our qb's including Braxton. The ball will be out of his hand in a millisecond to an in stride playmaker who will then make things happen. The days of our receivers waiting for the ball is over. Our short and mid-range passing game will exponentially improve (tight ends hear me!!).  In other words, the field will be spread or maximized, with the concept of playing in space indicates. I'm excited for this young man. I'm going out on a limb here, but as an old adage says "you heard it here first" JT Barrett will destroy our qb completion percentage records. Go Bucks!!!! 

tosubuckeye
 

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Earle's picture

If Miller is out for an extended time, it will be time for Herman to back up that Mensa label, without Hyde and Braxton to lean on.  Those guys can make a lot of coaches look like geniuses.

Italics are for emphasis.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

All I needed to hear was "Exceptional leader" "Quick Release" "Accurate" and "been preparing as the starter since February". JT is a baller, and oddly enough I may be even more excited now to see Urbans first QB recruit at tOSU go out there and perform. Go Bucks!

I've spent time in the South, I don't care what anybody says they don't have the passion for football that us Ohioans have. 

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Art Harrell's picture

Also wishing Braxton a full and speedy recovery.The Buckeye Nation has your back " JT." Go Bucks.

GOOMBAY's picture

Anyone care to join me in using this as a rallying call? Here is a predictably pissy ESPN prognosis:

And if Miller's shoulder continues to hamper him, the Buckeyes can kiss the College Football Playoff good-bye.

Thanks, SEC channel, but I'll be watching my team improvise, adapt, and overcome.

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Frimmel's picture

I will. I put ESecPN on last evening and got a big dose of counting us out of everything and some Big Ten trashing to go with it. This is a huge pile of suck but that will just make success taste so much sweeter.

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Someone should send this to Coach Meyer and let him toss it to the pack of hungry Buckeyes for motivation, and maybe even a mantra for this season.

Marc Pocock (a.k.a NuttyBuckeye)

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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ab1993's picture

I think everyone is feeling a bit more optimistic this morning.

I might be delusional, but I tend to think losing Miller and Hyde is similar to losing Craft in bball. No more star to rely on. For some reason I feel like our chances haven't changed at all for this season. JT is said to be a better passer and showed great running abilities in the spring game, and that's with it being no contact. He also didn't have all the weapons that he will have around him. 

The one thing that concerns me is how will JT withstand environments like Penn State at night? I'm cautiously optimistic for this season...

Class of '16

The Rill Dill's picture

Hopefully, as well as USC's pretty boy did here in the 'Shoe.

TraSmith4's picture

Never underestimate Texas quarterbacks who are a little undersized but really accurate (Drew Brees/Johnny Football) we will be fine. I believe in Urban and Herman. This is Ohio Freakin State it's always been next man up!!!! 

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buckeye1976's picture

I think we will be fine with Barrett. I liked him in high school and from what I hear, he is solid. I think we have the weapons and defense to stay in games.

He came from a passing first background, 4 star guy. He isn't some scrub QB.
 

buckeye1976's picture

@gljackman. Good points about Manziel and Winston.

Fowle13's picture

I have complete confidence that J.T can step in an lead our team. He was hand picked by Meyer and Herman. It's his time to shine 

M Man's picture

This is precisely what is so great about college football.  

No; injuries are regrettable and painful and sometimes even terrible.  None of us has any idea about how much work Braxton Miller devoted to get to this point.

But in the NFL, a QB gets hurt and the franchise trades for a new replacement using a second round draft pick.  Just more cogs in a machine.  In college football, we see real (young) people, developing in front of us.  Some successes, some failures, all human.  We can all appreciate that, even while the traditions that are much bigger than any of the individual players go on.  The team, the team, the team.

Let's all remember how fragile these young players are when they are playing such a tough game and appreciate all of them all the more while they are performing as student-athletes.

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Frimmel's picture

I'm kind of new here. Should I be worried that I agree with an TSUN Man so often?

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GoBucksOSU's picture

No, M Man is a very respected member of this site and has been here for years.

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

M Man, while we may not see eye-to-eye on our favorite college football teams, I can say that I completely agree with you on many topics.

You, sir, are a welcome addition to all the "typical Michigan fans" I have to put up with, living in your state.  Just this past weekend, some turd drove at me while walking in the pedestrain/hiking lane in Bald Mountain Park.  Of course, it didn't help that I had on a bright scarlet Ohio State tee shirt.  He came so close to me, I bumped his SUV with my hand and yelled, "Hey! What the fuck is your problem!?"

I truly enjoy reading your posts.

Marc Pocock (a.k.a NuttyBuckeye)

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

M Man's picture

It could have been worse.  You could have been at the Bald Mountain Shooting Range.  People wearing "bright scarlet Ohio State t-shirts" are never heard from again.  Something about shallow graves and dental records.

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BucksFan2000's picture

Even with JT as the QB, MSU is still the only game that concerns me.

There is plenty of time for him to learn before that game, or (hopefully) for Braxton to heal.

The Rill Dill's picture

They have THEIR OWN problems to worry about.  Hell, they could lose THEIR starting qb, by then.

BUCKfutter's picture

Anybody else notice this happened right after herbie picked us to win the natty and brax to win the heisman? Bad juju

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

HotSauceCommittee's picture

I am proud of my 11W brothers. Thank you for not having the sky is falling attitude or at least shifting upward since yesterday. When 11W crashed I had to search info other places. Not as positive to downright hateful fans from other teams. I dont get how you can cheer when any player gets hurt. Ex. I was heartbroken for Jake Ryan (MI - LB) last season. It was a nice story he was able to recover and contribute to MI's season after a big injury.

JT is not Braxton, he isnt as dynamic, and will probably not be a walking highlight film. But what he might just be is something Braxton lacks - a consistant passer. A guy who can hit 7 yard outs 70% of time. He might not run a sub 4.4, but you know what, not many players do. I think his 4.5 with a little shake will do just fine. How many times did Kenny G break out 10+ yard runs the last two seasons while subbing for Braxton. The answer is plenty. If Braxton went pro we would be in the same situation.

The O-line still worries me, but you know what, it will be good enough. We got 10 games to prepare for a team like Bama or Oregon.

Lets hope that this unifies the team, motivates them and lets hope that JT performs good enough to create a QB controversy if Braxton is able to return. Imagine, JT at QB and Zeke and Braxton in the backfield next to him at seasons end. Opposing teams will be pissing in their cleats.

Worst case scenario we struggle early, barely winning games. JT gets comfortable, we make a high level bowl game and we are back in the hunt next season - one year ahead of schedule.

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buckeyepastor's picture

I like Braxton Miller.  I like him as a person.  I like how he's conducted himself as the QB of Ohio State.   I love watching him make plays.  His instincts and athleticism have been a joy to watch over the years, and seeing him grow as a leader has also been great.   But after the Clemson game last year I was ready for, and almost looking forward to, seeing the next leader of our offense step up.   We are a much better team with Braxton's leadership and abilities - the challenges he presents for an opposing defense are incredibly rare to find.   

That being said, it really excites me to hear about how Barrett's strengths - quick release, making the right decisions with the ball, leadership, strong and accurate arm.   As I said, I like Braxton and I pray that this injury does not keep him out for long.   But getting rid of the ball in a timely manner and making good reads, with all that Braxton did right, were two areas where he so often struggled.   Even as we were winning 24 in a row, he would often make the wrong read or hold onto the ball too long, throw it a little late allowing the coverage to catch up.   His incredible talent and instincts often kept mis-steps from becoming negative plays, but still he has struggled with those things.   Hopeful for a speedy recovery, but eager to see what Barrett and Jones can do.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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73buckeye's picture

The tone of most of the comments here on 11W seem to be a bit more positive than earlier this morning. Once the initial shock of possibly losing Braxton for the season wears off, it seems that some rational thinking has returned to the site. Not that losing him isn't a big deal, but the future still seems bright to me. The success of the Bucks this season with or without Braxton rests on the return of a defense we can depend on, and the development of another dominating offensive line. If these two things happen, there is more than enough talent on offense to cover for the loss of Braxton. If they don't happen, even Braxton couldn't save the season on his own. Braxton was more inexperienced when he took over as a freshman. JT has been in the program for over 1 1/2 years. Playing quarterback effectively at this level is as much mental as physical. If Urban and the rest of the staff have done their jobs, he'll be mentally ready to step in and do a great job. Have some patience. This is still going to be a great year to be a Buckeye fan. 

ernie

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jthiel09's picture
Faith in the team and the staff, too early to start being negative.
O H

JT

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SpielmanForPres's picture

As mentioned earlier, inexperienced in no way equals unworthy. Truer words were never spoken. Good luck to JT - just get it to one of the plethora of playmakers. Run the show!

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wibuckeye's picture

What number did the last National Champion QB of Ohio State wear?

WIBUCKEYE

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Barnsey69's picture

I guarantee if #5 is not able to play, he will be helping run this team from the sideline and mentoring Jones/Barrett.

They all wear the Scarlet and Gray. Next man up.

GO BUCKS!

Thank the Maker that I was born in Ohio, cradle of coaches, US Presidents, confederate-stomping Generals, and home of The Ohio State University Football Buckeyes!

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Ok, so aside from the site going down last night based on the mass disappointment, and having some sleep to reflect on this, I predict that we are going to look back at the end of November and say,

"Wow, as bad as I feel for Braxton, I am glad that our team was quite fine with a young JT.  It really allowed our team to become closer together as a team and not just a collective of talent and it even allowed us to gain back that mystique we had in the 2012 season - you know, the mystique that gave us 12 wins in a tough-it-out way.  The mystique that prompted Urbz to practically salivate over the character and talent of his seniors for their leadership as a whole..."

If we were betting people and had already placed huge bets in Vegas, then I'd be truly distressed about the losses but we are tOSU no matter what should transpire this fall, and I hate to say it, but I have an almost giddy feeling about how we are going to shock some with ridiculous expectations.... Or if you're the SEC, you'll say, "yea, but look at your soft conference and schedule"

I'm not a superstitious man, but those initials, JT, mean something around our parts.  In JT we trust (part deux)?

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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740Bucks's picture

Man - I feel awful for Braxton. He laid it all out there in the Orange Bowl & I hope he can get things straight - if not for this year then to pursue his dreams in the NFL!

I have faith in Urban Meyer & Tom Herman to adjust the offense to suit JT's strengths... this could turn out a lot better than many think! Team looked pretty good with Kenny G, right?

One other point - things like this tend to bring a team together & cause everyone else to step their game up! 

No doubt this is a bummer - but they're still kicking off 8/30 and I can't wait to watch the next man up!!!!

"My idea of a good hit is when the guy wakes up on the sidelines with train whistles blowing in his head." - Jack Tatum

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Is Jalin Marshall the 2nd best QB on the roster?

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MAVBuck's picture

No, its the other QB's on the roster actually listed as QB's! Playing QB in high school is incredibly different than playing at the college level.

Lucky Buckeye 13's picture

I remember not all that long ago a young quarterback by the name of Troy Smith took over for a hurt Justin Zwick. Everyone thought Zwick was the man and we were doomed. Can anyone refresh my memory on how that turned out?

This is The Ohio State Buckeye's, there are no slouches here! We will prevail!

Lucky Buckeye 13

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Frimmel's picture

Everyone thought Zwick was the man and we were doomed. Can anyone refresh my memory on how that turned out?

We ended up with PTSD to the point we hired the person who authored it to coach the team. Granted there was some great wins over TSUN in there and lots of regular season success and a really big deal trophy was won but it turned out to bring nightmares. Lots and lots of nightmares.

And I'm back from the optimism to the alternatives to horrible to contemplate and shivering in a corner. Great.

Buckeyejohn's picture

My heart goes out to Braxton as his NFL dream is now in jeopardy. For four years he has worked his tail off and exceeded all of our expectations. I'm sure all Ohio State fans would agree that he doesn't deserve to have his career ended in this fashion. That being said, I don't think Braxton going down really changes the offensive as drastically as many think I say this for a few reasons:

1. Miller's best asset, his running ability, was not going to be used nearly as much anyways. Miller ran 171 times last year, but with a surgically repaired shoulder the staff was going to protect him from the numerous beatings he took last year. Would have expected his rushing carries to be closer to 100. This makes the loss of Miller's running game less damaging since it was going to be severely reduced anyways. 

2. With opening up the offense and protecting Miller in mind, the passing game was going to be put at a premium. Michigan State exposed the fact that you could stack the box and play man-to-man without having to seriously worry about Ohio states skill players. A revamped passing attack was set to put the likes of dontre wilson/devin smith/curtis samuel/Heurman in space to finally make plays after the catch. I really believe that was going to be the focus of the offense this year. Braxton was going to shatter his previous passing attempts per year. 

3. With points #1/#2 in mind, does J.T. Barrett really alter any of this? JT clearly doesn't have the same mobility, but he may prove to be an upgrade in the passing department. Braxton clearly has the stronger arm, but like TP the accuracy never developed (63% completion percent in 2013 is skewed due to all the RB dump offs and bubble screen type plays). Although he has yet to play a college snap, Barrett's high school tape shows an extremely quick release and good accuracy on intermediate throws. He may never put a 50 yard bomb on a dime like Miller, but Barrett will eventually prove to be much more effective with short/intermediate passes. This is exactly what the Ohio State offense needs most this year: A QB that can efficiently distribute to all parts of the field, and occasionally beat the defense deep to keep them honest. 

Obviously we cant replace Miller, but maybe we can still get by with a game manager who will let our young play makers take over the offense. Braxton has been a crutch for the offense too long and its time for all the elite skill recruits to finally step up....I'm probably overestimating Barrett and undervaluing Miller, but I'm just trying to find some sort of optimism. 

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martyisaacs's picture

Have said day 1 . And especially after attending spring game - that JT should be ahead of Jones. I am encouraged by his development 

Jbucks's picture

If in fact ot os season ending, does Miller take a redshirt and come back next year?

Light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it-John 1:5 SEC meet Ohio State, Ohio State meet SEC

Zimmy07's picture

Keep Calm & Trust in Urban.

Here's what happened in the 49 drives that Miller sat out last year:

28 TD's

12 Punts

4 Kneel downs

2 Turnover on downs

2 Turnovers

1 Field Goal.

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I will say this about Barrett:

1. He was an elite recruit -- not quite to the level of Miller himself, but he was a hot property.

2. I thought he looked marginally more comfortable than Jones in the spring game, though obviously neither shone very brightly.

I hope fans are patient with his development and his inevitable bad spells, but seeing the heat that even Miller himself has gotten from people who ought to know better, I am not optimistic.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Toilrt Paper's picture

AND if Barrett is not as injury prone, it is a plus.

PhillyBuckeye27's picture

WAY WAY WAY too much talent on Ohio State to NOT go 10-2 at worst.  VT, Cincy, Wisky, scUM and Sparty are the tough games - and I don't see this team losing more than 1 of those....

This too shall pass

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Chaseko24's picture

We don't play Wisky this year.

Nappy's picture

My .02

Expectations do not change in places like OSU.  Our defense and skill position players should be good enough to keep us in most games.  I am encouraged by the fact JT has taken so many practice snaps since spring but I don't think there is a question the margin for error is much smaller with JT than it was Braxton.  With that being the case, I can see a situation where a crucial field goal will decide the game and with a frosh kicker, who knows.  I hope that's not the case but going undefeated would be hard even with Braxton.  All that being said I have a lot of confidence in the players and coaches to put themselves in the best position to win games regardless of who is on the field.

Fan of bacon since 1981

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Jpfbuck's picture

I am not going to say anything negative about JT as he seems to be a great kid who is being put in a tough spot and we need to rally around him.

i thought it might be interesting to look at the last few times we have started either a freshman or untested Soph in a season and what the results have been like over the last 51 years ie my lifetime

2011 - Braxton Miller - true freshman, went thru 1 spring, started the majority of games, team went 6-7 and lost a low level bowl game

2008 - TP as a true freshman, came in with no spring and became the starter early, team went 10-3 and was co conference champs lost their fiesta bowl game

2004 - Troy Smith and Justin Zwick both relatively untested split time, we go 8-4 win the Alamo bowl

1999 - Steve Bellisari - untested sophomore starts the majority of games and goes 6-6, no bowl bid

1993 - relatively untested Bobby Hoying splits time with untested Senior Brett Powers but Hoying is the starter, team goes 10-1-1 co conference champ wins the Holiday bowl

1988 - Greg Frey - untested sophomore OSU goes 4-6-1 in Cooper's first year. no bowl of course

1982 - Mike Tomzack - untested soph, OSU goes 9-3 but loses 3 of 1st 5 games including 3 at home to FSU, Stanford and Wisky, no conference title but wins Holiday bowl and beats UM

1978 - Art S true freshman in Woody's last year, goes 7-4-1 losing Gator bowl sets school record for INTs in a single season

1973 - Corny Greene - untested SO, OSU goes 10-0-1 and wins Rose Bowl just misses national title

1968 - Rex Kern - untested SO leads OSU to undefeated national title

1963 - Don Unverferth - untested SO, OSU would go 5-3-1, no bowl or title but beat UM

so a wide range of performances across those 51 years, a national title and nearly a 2nd, 4 Big Ten Titles, plus 2 losing seasons and 8 seasons with atleast 3 loses/ties in the 11 times we have faced this in the last 5 decades.

of course every year is unique and i certainly hope JT can do the job, bus assuming EZE and Heuerman are both out the first week (which may be true given they are both still limited with 9 days to go) thats means 80% of our scoring from last year will be gone or unavailable for the Navy game and we break in 4 new OLmen with the only returning starter being Evan Spencer (maybe?) and Taylor Decker and Devin Smith (again assuming Heuerman is not ready to go)

Navy may not be a juggernaut but that is a ton to put on JT's shoulder to assume against a reasonable quality opponent on the road with almost no production coming back, to walk in there and come away with even a win let alone a big win that impresses pollsters>>>

hopefully this team can resemble that 73 or 68 team, heck even the 93 team, and avoids the 11, 99 and 88 teams...

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2morrow's picture

Prediction: JT starts, throws for 2500 yards and rushes for 500 while utilizing all of the weapons around him and the Bucks win 3 consecutive NC before he turns pro. It happened just last year to a QB at  FSU.

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kjonesATX's picture

My wife's Aunt and Uncle live in Wichita Falls and know JT and his family. Have had nothing but the best things to say about him for two plus years since he committed to Ohio State, so I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do. Other than feeling terrible for Braxton, one of my all-time favorite Buckeyes, I believe we are in good hands with JT and all the talent, coaching, and support around him. Pray for Braxton..

#GoBucks

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Kid Buckeye's picture

I see alot of KG in JT. Arm strenght not that strong, speed just ok  but more important is the  undersstanding of the offense.

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irishfury's picture

I just don't understand this.  He has some 50 yard bombs in his highlight video.  He ran for 1500 yards as a junior.  He runs a 4.5-4.6 forty.  He was the number 1 dual threat QB till he hurt his knee and feel to #3.  They don't make you a top dual threat qb and you be not fast.

jkrk's picture

(1) I'm prefacing a couple of short comments with the fact that I love Braxton and obviously we'd be far better off with him in there. Duh. And the fact that the skill and the wins have come just after TP, Braxton has been an incredible representative for the university. I mean, the most controversy he's drawn since he got to town was his yellow hair stint. That's been huge for us, and I'm heartbroken for him right now.

(2) I'm not freaking out, because (a) Barrett picked up a lot of yards with his legs in that video, and there were some left to get if his receivers had been blocking to the end of the play (as ours darn well better); (b) don't hate, but I'm pretty sure he hit more guys in stride on the long ball in this video than Braxton has in three years.

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zebiraross's picture

2 weeks ago JT was thinking he was a 3rd string qb, probably unlikely to see the field more than a handful of times.
Now he's the starting qb at Ohio State...I really believe this makes our defense raise up. Our offense had never been our problem the last few years. If our defense plays at par to where our talent sits we'll be fine. Our offense has to many weapons, even without Braxton. I believe our defense will rise to the occasion.

Zeb

Chark's picture

Next man up!

Alcohol will not solve any of your problems, but then again, neither will milk or water.

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BayCountyBuck's picture

I like the evolution of the comments today, first and foremost- thoughts and well wishes to Braxton on a speedy recovery from whatever happened yesterday. Our collective concerns about his shoulder seem to have been validated, that said I am anxious to see what a young and hungry, albeit unproven, J.T. brings to the table. I also think this negative could be used as a spark, Urban and the coaches have 2 weeks to sell the idea no one outside their lockerroom thinks they are anything more than a 1 man band. I know that he preaches motivation like that is only for "not very good teams" but this may well be a situation for some Psych 101 w/ Dr. Meyer

Rob Reese's picture

I have no reason to other than gut instinct and trust in Urban,  but I'm feeling supremely confident about J.T. Barrett.

osu_killernuts's picture

This isn't an apples to apples comparison, but did anyone project Jameis Winston to have the kind of year he had last year in his first year starting at FSU?  Not that I have close to the expectation of JT having that type of freshman campaign should he start all the games this year, but I expect JT to be a more than formidable replacement should Braxton be out this year (worst case scenario).  

Devin Smith, Spencer, Marshall, Wilson, Green, Thomas, Heuermann, Vannett, EzE, Rod Smith, Dunn, Samuel....the amount of offensive weapons at tOSU's disposal this year is ridiculous.  And let's be honest, JT is not Bauserman or Schoenhoft, etc. (no offense to the former players).  I still think OSU runs the table until the big matchup in East Lansing in November, then we will all see what JT is made out of (assuming Braxton is out for the season).

Non-panic mode here.

Hate is a strong word.  I hate ESecPN almost as much as I hate the whole SEC conference which is a close second to TTUN.

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zenshade's picture

Is Barrett really a redshirt freshman? I was thinking this was his 3rd year in the system. Maybe because he came in early and participated in spring 2013?

Run_Fido_Run's picture

This JT does not think that the punt is the most important play in football.

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Kindell's picture

I think there is a good thing to take out of this and I don't have anything against Jones.  I think it's a good sign though that JT Barrett stepped up and took over the second job in the fall.  We all know from following recruiting that he has plenty of upside.  I just feel like I would be a lot more concerned if Jones was still ahead.

Let's not forget that we still have that guy named Urban Meyer who has shown he usually finds a way to score points.

Pts per Game over  the years Via Sports Reference.com for Urban coached teams.

2001:PS/G: 30.3 (34th of 117)
2002:PS/G: 40.8 (3rd of 117)
2003:PS/G: 28.7 (42nd of 117)
2004:PS/G: 45.3 (3rd of 120)
2005:PS/G: 28.6 (49th of 119)
2006:PS/G: 29.7 (24th of 119)
2007:PS/G: 42.5 (3rd of 120)
2008:PS/G: 43.6 (4th of 120)
2009:PS/G: 35.9 (10th of 120)
2010:PS/G: 29.8 (43rd of 120)
2012:PS/G: 37.2 (21st of 124)
2013:PS/G: 45.5 (3rd of 125)

There are not many low numbers on that list. I still believe this man will find a way to get this team in the end zone. 

whiskeyjuice's picture

ESPN is reporting that braxton is gone for the season. Breaking news and apparently it's official

"You'll find out that nothing that comes easy is worth a dime. As a matter of fact, I never saw a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face." -- Wayne Woodrow Hayes

northbaybuck's picture

I think things will be fine.  Why do you think that when Kenny G. came in, the offense ran smoothly?  Was it because he was a better quarterback than Braxton?  No.  It was because the team rallied behind him, and the offense was more balanced (didn't rely on Braxton to make every play).  The offense spread the ball around, making it harder for the defense to key on any one person.  All is not lost!  Have faith in the team and Go Bucks!

There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you.
- Woody Hayes

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Toilrt Paper's picture

The reasonS, Kenny G was a 5th year Senior, very bright, the son of a coach..

hit_the_couch's picture

The reasonS, Kenny G was a 5th year Senior, very bright, the son of a coach..

But he was also barely 1 year into an entirely new offense, like JT will be.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

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Idaho Helga's picture

I said it in the other thread, what you need to do is be a better team than the opponent on Saturday.  I'm looking at the schedule and we're still going to be that in spades.

 

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bassplayer7770's picture

Let's go, JT.  Make Buckeye Nation proud.

buckeyedude's picture

I just hope they dont have JT running between the tackles. I really want to see what he can do throwing the ball. Just take it slowly.

 

 

AngryWoody's picture

Birm nailed it: 

Our Honor Defend!

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hit_the_couch's picture

He doesn't need to have Miller's feet, just a better arm than Miller. Miller's accuracy was pretty sketchy for last 4 or so games. As long as the D, mainly the pass D, comes together everything should be fine. It seems to work out OK every time a new QB in thrown in.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

THEOSUfan's picture

On the optmistic front, "JT" now has a completely different meaning and relevance.  :)

BuckeyeMike74's picture

Watching JT's highlight reel embedded above, the read-option plays look extremely familiar.

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Not sure where the knock on JT's speed and agility comes from. His keeper run at :48 is electric.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

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Woody16111's picture

The best part of all this mess is at least Ohio State won't have to totally re-tool the offense. Barrett, like Guiton before can basically run the base OSU offense, at least from what I saw on that clip. That was a big reason Guiton worked as a back-up.

Too bad we don't have El Guapo (a.k.a. Hyde) but I feel confident in the running game overall to help bail out Barrett when needed.

All of a sudden the O-line issues become way more important to settle and that D better be lock down because you have to expect a Frosh QB to make a few mistakes.

rihmds80's picture

2012- A relative unknown redshirt freshman stepped into the starting role at Texas A&M and won the Heisman Trophy. (Johnny Manziel)
2013- A highly touted redshirt freshman stepped into the starting role at Florida St and won the Heisman Trophy and National Championship (Jameis Winston)
2014- A former 4-Star recruit and current redshirt freshman gets the starting role at Ohio State as a result of an injury to the starting QB. 
THERES ALOT OF FOOTBALL TO BE PLAYED!!! BUCKEYES DONT REBUILD, THEY RELOAD!!! There's a ton of talent on this team and the Buckeyes are still in a spot to compete for a National Championship!!! Let the Haters Hate, us TRUE BUCKEYES will be the last ones laughing!!! GO BUCKS!!!

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hetuck's picture

Barrett needs to be one of Woody's young Turks. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

Balkestud's picture

I am probably in the minority on this and I am well aware of it historically not being a good idea, but I think we should try out a dual QB situation for the first 4 games or so. Cardale and JT each have qualities that are different from each other that would make game planning for the opposition a headache. I also would like to see what each guy can do in game situations before naming the guy based on practices. I realize that each guy would get only so many reps but me personally, I would feel more comfortable letting it be decided under the lights. This would also help if they aren't prepared mentally for this, after all this was pretty sudden, so neither one would feel the pressure of being the guy. Commencing downvotes in..3...2...1...

It gets kind of rough in the back of my limousine,

 

 

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

It's not like this is uncharted territory for Urban, Cardale very well could be the short yardage and/or goal line guy.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Love the optimism, thanks 11Wer's.  With a new OL, Hyde gone, and now a Heisman candidate QB out for the season ... not gonna lie ... I'm pretty depressed.  But, we have a lot of exciting and explosive players and the best coaching staff in CFB ... let's see how the team will adapt and respond and would be awesome to exceed expectations.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

Brutus_Bully's picture

Sure, it's up to the coaches to finally utilize this H Back position we have been reading about for almost 3 years and let him get the ball to all of these athletes we have recruited in space and let them get YAC. But remember no one was missing Braxton when Kenny G was playing last year. Who is to say Barrett can't post Kenny G like numbers? He was the #3 dual threat QB and a 4 star recruit. He has a year under his belt and who forsaw the seasons Manziel or Winston had after red shirting? Lets play some games first before we say OSU has no chance to beat MSU or that the B1G is out of the College Playoff...I would say the media is overreacting just a bit!

B.B.

MikeTheBuckeye's picture

When I heard the news I underwent a process of depression and disbelief. I know I'm not the only one. Anyways, I work at a local sports bar (Wake Forest, NC) and got harassed the majority of the day since my co-workers know my allegiance lies with the Scarlet and Grey. At one point on my ride home I got stuck behind this minivan driving way too slow when I noticed its license plate. I've tried numerous times to figure out how to insert the picture from my camera roll. It read: JT WINS. I shit you not. I'm not normally a superstitious guy but ... I gotta say I'm starting to feel better already.

Woody16111's picture

At least his name isn't Joe Bauserman.

Jabba1977's picture

Get it done J.T.,you are now the man!!

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