Terrelle Pryor Wants to Come Home, and Ohio State Should Let Him

By DJ Byrnes on June 9, 2014 at 11:08a
117 Comments

Terrelle Pryor was last seen at Ohio State running a red light at the Woody Hayes complex while fleeing TV camera crews in a Nissan 350Z he didn't own. For his role in Tatgate in 2011, Gene Smith dissociated Terrelle Pryor from the university for five years.

In 2012, during The Game, Jim Tressel was honored on the field with the 2002 national championship team.

Granted, Terrelle Pryor never won a national championship or nearly as many games as Jim Tressel did as Ohio State's commander, but there's a reason they both took the hardest L's from the NCAA.

While Pryor is playing for the reigning world champs in Seattle and Tressel has ascended to the presidency of Youngstown State, the Ohio State football program is still being harmed for their actions.

I don't write that with any bitterness. Those are, however, the unassailable facts.

But it's curious to me how Tressel has all but been canonized by fans (and rightfully so), yet an odium still surrounds his former protegé. After all, Pryor had the excuse of youthful naïveté. Tressel was the professional.

For his part, Pryor says he wants back. From an interview with Cleveland.com:

"Obviously, I can't go back for another two years or so," Pryor said. "I love Ohio State. You know, I learned a lot and I had a lot of fun there and I met a lot of friends there. I love the place. It's unfortunate that I let the fans down for making the dumb mistake I made when I was 18. But you know, things happen and you learn from them, and I think the reason it happened to me is for other people to learn, and I'll take that any day."

[...]

"I'd love to, if I'm invited or accepted, I'd love to," Pryor said. "I don't want to cause any type of thing. I just want everything to be smooth. Even if I could talk to the guys about not taking things and being smart about the people you deal with, I'd love to do that one day, if the coaches are up to it or the head people at Ohio State are up to it. But that's a couple years away."

[...]

"I feel like we're all family. We're all Buckeyes. Everywhere I walk I see Buckeye fans that scream O-H at me to this day. It's crazy. When I walk out the door someone is from Ohio. So I have a lot of love for Ohio State and I have a lot of love for the fans. I have a love for everything that has to do with Ohio State. It's just unfortunate, the situation that rained down on us at the end.

While I have a better chance of receiving an honorary doctorate from Ohio State than Terrelle Pryor does of having his disassociation prematurely expunged, it doesn't change it being the right thing to do.

Terrelle Pryor brought a lot of his ending on himself — I once called him "a bit of douchebag" — but he never cooperated with the NCAA or burned Ohio State to the ground through the media. He even took an unprecedented five game suspension from the NFL because, like his former mentor, he was a good soldier.

Mistakes are only mistakes if you fail to learn from them, right? There's nothing keeping him in exile other than a rash decision made three years ago. 

Because while it appears Terrelle Pryor has learned from his mistakes, you cannot yet say the same about Ohio State.

HT: BlockO

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HattanBuck85's picture

I concur. Great write up, DJ. 

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." - Woody Hayes

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Nick's picture

Weird seeing Roby in 25 in that gif

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Zimmy07's picture

I also agree.  I was mad at Pryor when it happened but I've gotten over it in light of a lot of things that have happened and gone unpunished since then (looking at you, Manziel).

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jbirmmd's picture

That perspective (Manziel and others) helps a lot, doesn't it. 

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DrSpaceman's picture

From the number of #2 jerseys people wear at Ohio Stadium on game day, you'd never guess that TP was forcibly disassociated with the university. It definitely seems like most of the fans are willing to forgive him.

"Medicine is not a science" - Leo Spaceman

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UrbanPirate's picture

I tend to agree with you, though I think the large volume of #2 jerseys has more to do with having to pay $75+ to refresh your number every few years rather than an overwhelming sustained support for TP. 

However there certainly is a sort of quiet support there, which makes me curious as to what a formal welcoming back would/will be like.. Obviously nothing like the showing for Tressel's return, and probably not entirely positive. Time will tell I guess, but in the mean time I'll continue to wish the young man success on Sundays and cheer on the new look Bucks on Saturdays.

Just... Go Bucks.

    

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bigtenspeed's picture

I know a lot of people who bought these jerseys at TJ Maxx for under $20. You also could always say they were Christian Bryant.

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chemicalwaste's picture

Or, as Joe Tessitore pronounces it, Ryan Shazer.

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vitaminB's picture

I have a #2, but it's for HOFer Cris Carter.

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bigtenspeed's picture

Chris Carter, Mike Doss, Shazier, Bryant, TP, Malcolm Jenkins...that number has some tradition at OSU

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chemicalwaste's picture

Rod Smith a couple years ago. Wait. Never mind.

Jbucks's picture

Tatgate was the dumbest thing ive ever heard of, its their personal property, no law against selling persobal property & I nvr held anything
against the 5 or the vest, UNTIL Pryor showed up in that car, to me it was all in bad taste, & rubbed me the wrong way

Light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it-John 1:5 SEC meet Ohio State, Ohio State meet SEC

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yrro's picture

Thing is, as I understand "that car" was a high-mileage 350z worth about as much as your average college students' car. It just happened to be in decent shape and have a flashy body to begin with.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

Frankly I'm shocked he can even fit in a 350z.

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livinginthegrey's picture

I have similar thoughts as you, but just because its not against the law doesn't mean it's still not an NCAA violation. Fair or unfair, it was against the rules at the time.

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RedStorm45's picture

Obviously NCAA rules aren't LAWS.  They are rules that must be followed to be eligible to play in NCAA games.  It may seem dumb, but they benefited (financially) purely because they were NCAA athletes.  There is probably some fault with OSU giving them items that could be traded/sold while they were still "amateur athletes."  Of course, it's not any different than John Football getting some cash for his autograph.

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Furious George 27's picture

Fault with OSU giving them items to trade/sell? The fault is with players not the school, thats like saying you should blame the Rose Bowl for giving TP an MVP trophy to trade as well. Prohibiting the sell of your own property sounds incredibly stupid, but thats to keep boosters from paying $2K for an item valued at $50. TP and other players F'd up and its their  fault, no one else in the same position sold their stuff because they knew the rules. In the end they made a mistake, but it really wasnt the selling of property that sanctioned OSU. It was the inactivity by the Coach to report a dumb violation on what should not have been more than a 3-4 game suspension for the players. Tress was paid millions to keep OSU out of these issues. With that said I still greatly appreciate what they all did for OSU on the field.

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

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RedStorm45's picture

True, but I said "some fault" as in not realizing that these 18 and 19 year old kids get memorabilia that could go for a couple thousand bucks to a fan/booster, but it's technically an NCAA violation to sell them.  Not all of the players are going to be strong enough to turn that cash down.

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Furious George 27's picture

Its still a rule though and you have to follow them or pay the price if you don't. The majority of the team did not have any issues with following the rules. Its like saying the parents are at some fault for their kid getting a speeding ticket because they supplied them with a car. We all know the rules and the consequences of not following the rules. The players are taught what is and is not permissible by the NCAA.

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

Bucksfan's picture

He broke a rule that no one agrees with anyway, even former lawyers that once represented the NCAA.  He didn't commit any crimes, and he rightfully called out Herbstreit for his hypocrisy.  He was also a good student.  I don't think he should have been disaffiliated in the first place.

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Bolt's picture

He was actually disassociated partially as a favor to him. He was trying to get into the NFL supplemental draft but per the NFL's rules he has to have no realistic chance at going back and playing college ball in the upcoming near future. Him being barred from Ohio State allowed the NFL to rule that there's no chance of him going back and playing at OSU again and they allowed him to enter the supplemental draft. I'm sure he sat down with Ohio State and they mutually agreed that it would be in both parties' best interest to do the disassociation. 

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Bucksfan's picture

If you're right, that's a strange way to go about it.  Usually all you have to do is sign an official document saying, "I'm going to the NFL" and your eligibility is over.  That's a permanent move.  You can't "go back."  I don't think a 5 year ban had anything to do with that.  It had to do with appeasing the NCAA.

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture

Usually you are right, for the regular draft.  But for the supplemental draft held over the summer, this is the case.  Either way, I am still confused three years later why both Tressel and TP were suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season in the NFL.  Neither of them broke any laws or rules affiliated with the NFL but were suspended nonetheless by the big man Goodell.  

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

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Nutbuck1959's picture

Seems completely arbitrary now, doesn't it? A man in charge flexing his 'muscle' because he can.

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Bolt's picture

This is true when you're entering the normal NFL draft, but since the draft had come and gone (along with the deadline to declare eligibility for the draft) he had to appeal a case to the NFL why they should let him into the league and why they should have a supplemental draft for him. Part of that is proving to them that he has no choice but to go pro and couldn't return to play football for his senior year. That's a big part of the reason both sides agreed to the disassociation. I don't know why 5 years was decided upon but that may have been OSU's part in the deal in trying to prove to the NCAA that they're distancing themselves from the situation as much as possible (the disassociation occurred prior to the discipline being handed down by the NCAA and Ohio State was still trying to lessen its penalty).

Baroclinicity's picture

Forgive and forget...

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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RedStorm45's picture

Why did TP get the harshest punishment of the "Tat Five?"  Was he the supposed ring-leader of their crime circle?  The cover up (Tress lying to the NCAA) is worse than the actual crime and was what led to all of the sanctions, but some fans treat TP the worst - I don't see the same vitriol directed at Boom Herron, Posey, Adams, Tress, etc.  Maybe fans just need a scapegoat to blame EVERYTHING on, and they ended up on Pryor being that guy.

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joel121270's picture

Agreed and stated it myself on my post. As much as I love tress, it was ultimately him who decided to lie. And if anyone thinks that tp was all of a sudden the ring leader and this stuff just started because of him them I got some land to sell them. It most surely was happening before and not only at TOSU. 

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Furious George 27's picture

Unlike TP, the rest stayed and took their punishment from the NCAA and OSU so that could have a lot to do with it. Lets not forget he was also linked to test driving an insane amount of cars and said to have recieved cash for autographs. You can say he wasn't the ring leader, that may or may not be true. But he seemed to have used his fame  more than others as well.

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

SilverState's picture

Even if I could talk to the guys about not taking things and being smart about the people you deal with, I'd love to do that... 

 

Yeah, the NCAA giving it another look is definitely the right thing to do. 

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d5k's picture

Offtopic: My god he is a large human being... 

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whobdis's picture

I've never quite understood some attitudes towards TP. Everyone was fine with Boom when he came back..and the rest of the tatgate crew for that matter. The guy gave it all on the field..played hurt and rarely missed a down. The are lots of reasons for Luke's awful season but most of it was the drop off from TP to Bauserman and a 'not yet ready' Braxton. I've heard from numerous sources that TP could have thrown OSU under the bus but chose to distance himself. The guy said some stupid things but what 19 year old hasn't.

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GoBucks713's picture

Can we trade him for Gene Smith??

-The Aristocrats!

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Baroclinicity's picture

Gene Smith for him

Or do I have this wrong?

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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GoBucks713's picture

In my mind they are the same thing HA!

-The Aristocrats!

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jhipbuck's picture

Terrelle was and is a great Buckeye — it is time.  

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rekincaid's picture

I was at Sawmill Lanes for a bowling event for a local area Special Olympics group.  Terrelle Pryor was there with some friends, maybe a friend's family birthday party.  I was never sure.  All I do know is that the Special Olympics kids went nuts realizing it was Terrelle.  He stopped and posed for a picture with every athlete and any parents.  He signed autographs, hi-fived and was as nice as could be.

He may have had some DB tendencies toward some, and he definitely fu'd a few times with tatgate, etc. but for my money, I'd bring him back before Tress.  The vest's crime was the dagger.  Did the vest act out of character or just get caught?  We don't know because we don't know whether he'd been put in this position before.  We do know that the vest was supposed to be the adult and we're expecting one helluva lot out of 18 year-old kids.  I'm willing to bet most of the folks writing/blogging/hand wringing over tatgate back then have some history as 18 year olds that wouldn't look too hot in the light of day today...

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Hovenaut's picture

I don't have the numbers off the top of my head, but he helped OSU win plenty of games in his time here, including the fantastic Rose and Sugar (IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT) wins.

Hate Week runneth over

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture

I saw both of them with my own two eyes in person.  Although, if we didn't actually play a game in New Orleans in which the Razorbacks (pre-Bert) lost a game against no one, does that mean I still have yet to make my first visit to New Orleans?  Does it work that way?  I guess I should go back.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

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AndyVance's picture

Good point, Hov. At this point, Braxton Miller will have his name all over the OSU record books, but it's TP who won us our most recent big-game wins. Sometimes we forget that, I think, when looking askance at TP.

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Ahh Saturday's picture

Pryor's role in the Tatgate scandal earned him something like a five game suspension from the NCAA, yet OSU banishes him for five years.  That punishment is so incommensurate with the offense that one is forced to conclude that OSU punished him in some cynical attempt to gain favor with the NCAA, or that Pryor was involved in more than just Tatgate.  Of course it is also possible that Gene Smith was on some meth bender when he was handling Tatgate, but the other two possibilities seem slightly more likely. 

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Shangheyed's picture

Should be banished for as long as tOSU is under sanctions. 

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umbyosu's picture

I STILL can't believe did not play in the Sugar Bowl that year....what team intercepted that Ryan Mallet pass at the end of the game, anyhow?

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vball10set's picture

tp and jt were lightning rods for the NCAA's douchebaggery...they're Buckeyes, and will always be Buckeyes, period.

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Barnsey69's picture

As I stated on the other thread, it's time to forgive TP and the other "Tat5" members with time served...just the right thing to do.

Thank the Maker that I was born in Ohio, cradle of coaches, US Presidents, confederate-stomping Generals, and home of The Ohio State University Football Buckeyes!

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allinosu's picture

It's time to let it go. From here on it's like we are turning our backs to him. Terrelle, if you are keeping up on eleven warriors, "You are a beloved Buckeye and we miss you". From my wife, me and I'm sure many others.

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jaxbuckeye's picture

What exactly does the last line of the piece mean?????

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IGotAWoody's picture

My guess would be that he's saying OSU made some mistakes in how they handled the punishment of these players, but have yet to demonstrate that they've learned or made any moves to correct the mistakes (like dropping the 5 yr ban at this point and welcoming TP back to campus).

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jaxbuckeye's picture

Ok makes sense. I originally read it a completely different way. Thanks!

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BuckeyeStrong2's picture

I'm not sure the university would do that, if for no other reason, to not piss off the cranky NCAA. Maybe they wouldn't do anything right now due to being busy with the O'Bannon suit and Pay4Play cases, but would you really want them (OSU) rolling the dice?

Let the punishment be the punishment, and after the 60 months is up, welcome him back like he should be welcomed back.

hspbuy1's picture

I agree, TP's served his time. The tat5 have all been punished enough IMO! Welcome back gentlemen!

hspbuy1

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YTOWNBUCKI's picture

I'd have to say I think the biggest problem that most people had with him was that he seemed unapologetic once everything went down.  I think we can now kill that idea as he truly hold Buckeye Nation in high regard. 

 

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joel121270's picture

I don't know if he was unapologetic or just keeping his mouth shut. I think he very well could have said thing that may or may nor have hurt people. If the kid was really out for something he could have did a Ray Small on Osu but didn't. To be honest, I think it showed great maturity for him to stay quiet the way he did in this day and age. 

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

The NCAA rules need reviewed, as far as "personal items" are concerned.  Players are given gifts for making it to bowl games.  I believe the year OSU beat Oregon in The Rose Bowl, players were given gift bags that contained an iPod and an Xbox.  I am sure most players already had these, but - by the rules of the NCAA, if the player went and sold or swapped one of these gifts for something else, that is a violation.  This ludicrous and utterly absurd.  The rules need to be changed.

I am sure most athletes who earn scholarships come from families that work hard for a living and could not have afforded to "pay cash" for their education.  What is wrong with a player selling or swapping on of their personal items?  The problem is the item was given to them by the NCAA or the university they hold the scholarship from..... If it were a stereo they had - there is no problem.... Crazy....  Get into the 21st Century, NCAA...

Marc Pocock (a.k.a NuttyBuckeye)

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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IGotAWoody's picture

While I agree with you, the problem with allowing this is that they open the floodgates. A wealthy booster could give a player 10 grand for that Xbox, or some similarly ludicrous amount. I'm sure that's why the rule is in place, but just as with all the other rules, a little common sense would solve the problem.

 - License to kill gophers (wolverines, badgers, etc) by the government of the United Nations

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buckeyestu's picture

I totally agree with you Nutty. A damn stupid rule regarding personal items.

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BroJim's picture

I say bring em' home!

I season my simple food with hunger

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joel121270's picture

I was never really mad at the kids for what happened. They are kids and be it as it may it was their personal property and free to do what they want IMHO. I think I was more mad at Tressell for lying than anything. It just made things exponentially worse than it really could have been. I am in mo way judging jt as I loved everything about him except for his damn offenses with the exception of 06. I do believe he had the best interest of the kids in mind. 

Let him come back, I think for the most part people have gotten past it and it always helps to have UFM carrying on the great tradition of Osu football.

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I was never mad at him to begin with.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Welcoming TP back would not only help heal some old wounds but it would be one big thumb at the nose at the NCAA, just like JT returning to the Shoe before The Game in 2012. I never really thought he did anything truly wrong yet he still is apologetic. That shows character to me.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

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Silver Bullet 10's picture

As an outspoken Pryor critic, I say let him come home once his punishment is up. The past is the past and he has grown from his mistakes.

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pdan46's picture

I agree 100%. Let Terrelle come home and be recognized for all of the great things he did.  The NCAA's actions re those players and Tressel were, in my opinion, reprehensible in light of their non-action re much more serious violations by other Schools and other players (i.e., Miami, Oregon, Calipari, Cam Newton, etc.)

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

I always have been and always will be a huge Terrelle Pryor fan!  He laid it out on the field every single game and was a large factor in some huge wins for the program.  It pained me to see the amount of horrid press stories and nasty personal comments he received from those both internal and external to the Buckeye Nation.  Yes, he made some mistakes and was responsible for his actions but the amount of shit he received, especially from the OSU fanbase was just plain ridiculous!  It would be awesome if OSU mended the fence with him and brought him back into the inner circle where he deserves to be!

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teddyballgame's picture

I love me some TP.  Imagine if Urban got to have him...

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Knarcisi's picture

I say we take our 12 wins and Sugar Bowl win back, as well.

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avail31678's picture

He's become much more well spoken.  And to not have animosity towards OSU and to also want to come back and talk to players and warn them about violating NCAA rules says a lot about the guy.  He could easily have veered towards that selfish side he seemed to have when he was younger, but it doesn't appear that way to me.

Always a Buckeye, TP!  Damn, you were fun to watch.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

It was great to watch his athleticism on the field, he ran with such fluidity. The 73 points he hung on EMU that I witnessed in person was a great memory. Just wished he could have been more of a leader in a way that most Buckeye QB's have traditionally been. And by that, I mean I wish he wasn't in that damn tat shop in the first place. He should have been setting a better example. Perhaps that is a lot to expect from a young kid who may not have had a solid family upbringing (I really don't know his exact circumstances there), but as the old saying goes "To whom much is given, much is required".

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Meechy77's picture

Still one of my favorite Quarterbacks 

Angry staff, Angry team. The Ohio State

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fear_the_nut70's picture

"But it's curious to me how Tressel has all but been canonized by fans (and rightfully so), yet an odium still surrounds his former protegé"

This is simple to me.  The American sports fan is obssessed with championships (real or otherwise).  Win one, and you are imortalized.  TP did not win one.

Crumb's picture

I never blamed Pryor or Tressel, just the asinine NCAA. They could give governments lessons on how to be corrupt and enforce double standards.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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pcg396's picture

Funny how seeing the end of an dismal NFL career can elicit fond memories of college.  OSU has moved on from the Tressel/Pryor debacle and so should TP.  On the other hand, Lord Jim might consider bringing TP to YSU as his consigliere.  Now there's a match.

Scottsdale Buckeye

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Denster's picture

I actually agree with this. I get the feeling that if TP wanted to, he could have lit the fuse and a lot could have went up in smoke. He didn't. He says the right things now. Played his ass off. Bring him back.

...and there's nothing wrong w/ calling him a bit of a douchebag. I mean, he acted like a bit of a douchebag. It happens. Just yesterday, I did some shit that afterwards I was like "man, i was a bit of a douche back there". So yea, if someone were to call me out on it, it wouldn't be unwarranted. Same situation. Different scale. 

"It's a double-barreled pistol that fires hard work and victory..."

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741's picture

I have no problem with him being able to return to OSU once the punishment is complete. Five years of disassociation from the program felt right (to me) at the time, and why anyone would waste time and effort kvetching over whether the punishment should be shortened now is beyond me.

Further observations: OFF SEASON, and HAS DJ MET HIS WEEKLY ARTICLE QUOTA YET?

RBuck's picture

TP seems sincere as hell and I believe he is. He has been truly humble since tat-gate went down has said nothing negative about tOSU.

Come home Terrelle.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

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Rogabone's picture

It is time to let it go..

Forgiveness

 

"Who is that madman?" the new arrival asked St. Peter.

"That's God," St. Peter replied. "But he thinks he's Woody Hayes."

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Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Actually a very good movie.

RIP Phillip Seymour Hoffman

AeroBuckeye2001's picture

TP worked his ass off during his time at OSU (according to his teammates). I've met him several times and he always went out of his way for an autograph or picture with the fans. He is passionate and sincere. I'd love to see him back at OSU whenever they honor that Rose Bowl winning team.  

Also, 4th & 10 @ Iowa. 

The Ohio State University Class of 2001
BS Aero & Astronautical Engineering

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ChazBuckeye's picture

Let him live!

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

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bigtenspeed's picture

I'm hearing the redneck Arkansas lady right now!

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BUCKSOMIES's picture

This whole tat-5 deal was all BS to begin with.  It was nothing more than a NCAA-espn-sec witch hunt.  These scum buckets were out to put one on OSU and this was their one, and as it turned out only, chance to do so.  There is absolutely no way that what these 5 guys did even slightly compares to the Gibbons deal or Winston or Newton or the Miami scandal or the various pay for play bullshit going on in the sec.  I say bring TP back and do so with all the bells and whistles he rightfully deserves.  Just my opinion, Go Bucks!

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bigtenspeed's picture

I may be wrong on this but didn't Terrelle hand out the envelopes of cash to Pitt Brown, Travis Howard, and Jordan Hall at Bobby D's fund raiser? Wasn't that after tatgate? I always thought we got the bowl ban was because our guys didn't learn from tatgate and kept doing it. I don't think he got it in early 2011 but I do think Terrelle gets it now and it's great idea to have him back to talk to guys about his mistakes.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

I'd never heard that claim before so I decided to go back & check...

Ohio State football: Booster admits role in payments

Running back Jordan Hall, cornerback Travis Howard and defensive back Corey Brown were suspended for Ohio State’s wins over Akron and Toledo before they were reinstated yesterday by the NCAA for Saturday’s game at the University of Miami.

DiGeronimo, 64, corporate secretary of Independence Excavating Inc., is a member of the board of directors of Bobby Tripodi Foundation Inc., a nonprofit charity named for his grandson that operates as Cornerstone of Hope.

Brown, Hall and Howard were suspended for accepting the money at a Cornerstone of Hope fundraiser in Independence, Ohio, on Feb. 19. The charity assists families grieving the deaths of loved ones.

DiGeronimo confirmed reports to The Dispatch that former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor gave the cash envelopes to his three teammates. DiGeronimo said the money was intended as reimbursement for travel expenses.

“However Mr. Pryor got the money, I take responsibility. I am responsible for those kids coming up here from Columbus,” he said. “I handled it wrong. I should not have handled it the way I did.”

DiGeronimo said neither his son-in-law, Mark Tripodi, the executive director of the charity he co-founded with his wife after their 3-year-old son Bobby died in 2000, nor anyone else with the nonprofit were aware of the payments. “However the money got there ... it did not come from Cornerstone,” DiGeronimo said.

Athens BuckCat's picture

I agree wholeheartedly, time to let bygones be bygones and forgive TP2

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Shangheyed's picture

Once sanctions have run their course he should be allowed back in, not before.

CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

I still am a fan o Terrelle to this day. He was and is a great Buckeye QB. Can't wait until you can come home Terrelle!
Go Bucks!!

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ArizonaBuckeye's picture

I'm over it. I say let T.P. come back for a visit.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

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D-Day0043's picture

I made some serious dumba$$ decisions at 18, and I am here to tell you I would have probably made a gigantic mess if I were in his position at that age. All of that fame at 18. Everyone trying to give you something and wanting to be your friend. It would be hard not to let my ego get the better of me. Frankly I am surprised we don't see some of these star athletes get busted for things like this more often.

Forgive him and let him back in. Thank goodness for all of the people who forgave me for all of the stupid stuff I did at that age.

I am D-Day0043 and I approve this message.

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Buck Wild's picture

"I'm going to play for the University of Ohio State"..."Everybody kills people"..."I run this shit"...no thanks DJ. This kid was a great athlete, but he led a thug mentality of entitlement that tremendously hurt the reputation of the school nationally, & was the tip of the spear that tore apart the program that led to losing a hall of fame coach due to his loyalty for him. The less we hear from TP prior to the statute of limitations expiration, the better...

And I bet there is a whole lot we still don't want know at all w/ TP & his shenanigans..

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987

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FLAMikey's picture

I strongly suspect that a after a complete examination of the facts regarding TP's "body of behavior" while at OSU, one could make at least as strong of a case for his temp banishment as DJ has made for his redemption. There were some OSU players who wanted no part of Pryor after having him as a teammate. I'd like to hear Brian Hartline's opinion on this subject......

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faux_maestro's picture

I believe there was some ill will toward TP by some of the older players on the team in 2008 because of the situation of how he became the starter. Todd Boeckman was the senior, a solid starter (who BTW took us to the mNC game the year before), we lost to USC (not Boeckman's fault entirely) and he was replaced by the young hot shot recruit. From what we know about Tressel and his loyalty, I have a feeling that he promised TP that if he had ANY chance of making TP the starter in year 1 he would. That move was really unprecedented in the tenure of Jim Tressel. 

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warosu's picture

He was a kid fresh out out of high school!!! What would u do???

lamplighter's picture

damn right he should come home.  Good piece there.

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Shangheyed's picture

Not till after sanctions end...

FUqUespin's picture

Agree.  These D-bags in the Federal Government break laws and rain hell on people daily.  Pryor paid his dues, was never convicted of anything, and the clowns associated with the $25,000 payouts at Oregon got nothing.  Lift the ban on Pryor and welcome him home.

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buckeyepastor's picture

I don't have any ill will towards Pryor for what he did.  He was young.  He made mistakes.  He paid heavily for them.   What he did was magnified by Tressel's decisions, which TP couldn't control.   Gene Smith was doing what he could in a situation where TP was basically beyond being punished by the NCAA (off to the pros - albeit prematurely) to send a message that OSU took the violations seriously.   If you really are confused why Tressel is still regarded more highly than Pryor in Columbus, given the body of work for each of them in football and in life, I really don't know what to say.  

I think if Pryor wants to finish his education, that will happen.  I think if he wants to help others learn from his mistake, that will happen.   I think if he wants to change his legacy as a Buckeye, I don't think OSU or Pryor can do much about that.   

 

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Findog5's picture

Imagine what this gifted QB could have done if he had a real quarterback coach.  I wonder what Siciliano is doing now?  I love Tressel, but he did have a blind spot when it came to loyalty.  

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Buckeyebrowny919's picture

I'll have goosebumps the day he is welcomed back. I, too, believe it is time and overdue.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

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Art Harrell's picture

Gene Smith, open the damn Horseshoe up and bring T.P. back Home.--Go Bucks

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Rocket Man's picture

If I knew how to petition the university, I'd start one to let him back.  I bet the signatures would add up quickly.

". . . It's because I don't buy one @*$%# drop of gas in the state of _ichigan! We'll coast and PUSH this @*$%# car to the Ohio line before I give this state a nickel of _y _oney!"

2002osubuck's picture

Its obvious from all these posts, TPs wanted back at tOSU. Id like to see him get cheered like Tressel because he deserves it. The guy went to 3 BCS bowl games, won 2 with MVP honors and beat scUM every year. He's all buckeye in my book.

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AGAB's picture

I will be among the first to sign an online petition to bring TP home. Bring it on !!!!

WhySoSerious's picture

BUCKEYE. Remember him picking OSU on my birthday. Was a great day.

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

youngcroc's picture

He didn't snitch... and because of tatgate we now have Urban Meyer!

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Bags5150's picture

It's not exactly the same thing but everyone seems to forget the cloud that  Cris Carter left tOSU under.  His actions and all that was uncovered were actually illegal and in my opinion much worse than what TP did. The following year with CC gone and Byars having broken his foot, the Bucks went 6-4-1 and Earle got fired, yet we welcomed him back with open arms.  To our knowledge TP broke no laws and Tress's transgressions were much worse in the scheme of things.  Let the kid back in.  He was a great Buckeye and deserves to be a part of Buckeye Nation.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth~Mike Tyson

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Dillon G's picture

What? Who doesn't like Pryor or want him around?

 

But it's curious to me how Tressel has all but been canonized by fans (and rightfully so), yet an odium still surrounds his former protegé. After all, Pryor had the excuse of youthful naïveté. Tressel was the professional

ziplock007's picture

Because of Pryor unparalleled athleticism, we almost forgot how poor and thin the offensive line was in Tressel/Bollman's final years.  We also forgot how thin the WR regiment became after under utilizing amazing talents like Gonzalez, Ginn, & Holmes.  Tressel had a run RB first, then pass offense... and most of those pass plays ended up being QB runs due to OL breakdowns.  Remember, they had the same OL in the 6-7 2011 as they did in the 12-1 2010.

If Pryor would have committed to uMich, RichRod would have had a few OSU victories as Todd Boeckman and a yound Joe Bauserman would have taken the helm in 2008-2010.

Pryor made what should have been a bad offense respectable.  He was absolutely amazing and the best athlete we'll ever see at QB in ALL of CFB.  Let's allow him to at least visit.

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Shangheyed's picture

Not until we are off sanctions...

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BuckInNashville's picture

Love watching TP.  I vividly remember his play in bowl games against Arkansas and Oregon. Let him welcomed back in the shoe !

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BuckInNashville's picture

I loved his rebuttal when he was criticized by Kirk SEC Herbstreit. "I beat Michigan 3 times. How many did he win - none ?"

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jamesrbrown322's picture

Hey, hey. Herbie got a tie! In those days, that was as good as a win with Cooper at the helm!

And actually, this cause me to look up the 1992 team. What a backfield! Best stable of back they've ever had!

Robert Smith, Raymont, Cothran, By'Not'e, and Eddie! WOW!
 

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

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pdan46's picture

I hope that Carroll convinces Pryor to change positions to WR.  He would be an awesome WR - huge, fast, great hands, obviously a great runner after the catch and great stiff arm!

When he was with Oakland, I read/heard that he was the most active player working within the Oakland community.  That says a lot!

razrback16's picture

Yep I would also be fine with him coming back. Never held it against him. The whole thing was a witch hunt over some kids selling their personal possessions. As long as Auburn & Bama are allowed to pay their players, the NCAA can't come down on anybody else with any credibility as far as I'm concerned.

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CowCat's picture

Terrelle was a kid who made mistakes that weren't crimes.  Big  #$%@^& deal.    I did worse when I was his age.

He's also the QB that beat the SEC finally and owned TTUN.   He made us all proud.   He needs to have his seat at the family table.

 

 

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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steveoz49's picture

Son, it's time to come home.  The family misses you.