Gene Smith: Meyer's Contract will be Addressed at Appropriate Time

By Kyle Rowland on March 24, 2014 at 2:50p
85 Comments

Urban Meyer makes nearly $5 million a season at Ohio State. And that's without performance bonuses.

It's likely Meyer will stay at that salary level until he wins a national championship. In an interview with CBS Sports' Jeremy Fowler, Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said he'll restructure Meyer's contract at the appropriate time, which isn't now. 

"We started out with a good contract. The timing was right," Smith said. "The dollars will eventually change at some point because the market's changing, Nick Saban and all that. Urban's still in the top 10. He's probably in the top 8, he came in at top 5, he's probably slidden, he might be in the top 8 now. There will be a time, probably when he wins a championship, or there's some elite performance of that nature where we need to look at the market again. He's bonused extremely well. We have a huge bonus on that side.

"There will be a window, I don't know when. It will happen.”

"Elite performance" could mean a playoff or appearance or national title. According to USA Today, Meyer was the sixth-highest paid coach in the country last season. 

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Johnny-Shane_Utah-Falco's picture

Gene Smith is a doorknob.

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gm3jones's picture

I would hold a doorknob in higher regard than him lol

There is nothing more remarkable as learning to think better.

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jrich612's picture

Is "slidden" a word? Also, what coaches are ahead of Urban to put him outside of the top 5 right now? 

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Knarcisi's picture

Bert???

Damn, that's one expensive victory!

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Wesleyburgess1's picture

Urban is the 4th highest paid head coach as of right now. Butch Jones and Bert make about 3 mil.

http://www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts.htm

IH8UOFM's picture

Was thinking the same thing. Slidden? Really?

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doodah_man's picture

Passive is have slidden...

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

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Bluke221's picture

Now that I have learned "slidden" my vocabulary has been embiggened.

"Statistics are like bikinis....they reveal a lot but not everything" -- Lou Pinella

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Katzfan's picture

Upvote for you my friend... Clever. :)

wilkins0802's picture

Gene Smith irritates me...

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Colby3333's picture

I like it.  Why restructure when all you've achieved is Cooper-like performances?  Which is not bad compared to most programs, but expectations should be higher here.  Bottom line, go win something.  Go Bucks!

 

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Posterchild's picture

To Meyer's defense, I believe we already have as any wins against TTUN in year 2 of meyer as Cooper had in 13 years.

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BAR43's picture

Very true... however the sub par program that is now *ichigan is no longer the benchmark we rate ourselves. Its good for the rivalry to beat them, but short of that beating them adds very little to no clout nationally.

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mockjocks's picture

Unfortunately, you're right. There will never be a more hollow 24-game winning streak in the history of college football. It's fun to puff our chests out during the season, we all live for it. But when it counts the most you can't beat Sparty, a team that clearly is your equal at best, and then play one of the sloppiest bowl games in recent memory, you need to just accept that we're good program, not a great one right now. Hopefully we turn it around.

MJ Pete

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

He's 24-2 in his first two years. Coop? 12-10-1. :/

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Johnny-Shane_Utah-Falco's picture

I've ready for years to have Gene Smith's contract ended. Too bad that won't happen with the eggheads we have running tOSU.

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ODEEZ330's picture

Yes he hired urban meyer and guided the athletic programs (football basketball) through golden eras. Idk if he hired matta but i just don't get the hAte for gene smith when ohio state has been awesome in both sports for the most part since he's been here

O'Deez330
stark county football

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3cent's picture

I don't get it either.

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doofenshmirtz's picture

My 2 year old son could've hired Urban to Ohio State.  That hire literally made itself.  I'd be willing to bet that there are plenty of people in the Columbus metro area (that aren't currently running companies) who could do Smith's job better than he can.

He botched tat-gate.  He didn't do written performance reviews with Tressel.  Honestly, I wouldn't trust him not to screw up a toilet paper purchase.

 

tracyre's picture

Reason 326 - Don't forget how he poorly he navigated and then so inaccurately assessed potential NCAA sanctions. Didn't he sit on the infractions committee in the past?!?!  Didn't see the writing? Didn't have friends on the inside? 

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NitroBuck's picture

I'm not a Gene Smith fan, but people need to be fair on this issue.  OSU was hit with unprecedented punishment given the level of violations being faced.  His 18 years of experience on the Infractions Committee told him that that Failure to Monitor cases do not result in post season bans.  What he did not understand was the groundswell of pressure placed on the NCAA by the media, led by ESPN and CBS (both of whom have their most major contracts with the SEC).  Again in fairness, the NCAA had not been known for caving to the pressure of the media prior to this issue.  As fans, many of us understood the media pressure.  But honestly, most people in high level positions have trained themselves to largely ignore media ramblings.  If you want to blame Smith for stumbling and bumbling his way through press conferences, have at it.  But if you want to blame someone for OSU being hit with an unprecedentedly high level of sanctions, blame the SEC boy running the show at the NCAA (Emmert).  He's the one that allowed media pressure to influence the way the NCAA traditionally handles things.

Ferio.  Tego.

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tracyre's picture

Double post! Oops! It's Genes fault. 

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mcouch28's picture

PAY THAT MAN HIS MONEY!!!

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Calgarybuck's picture

You want some more Oreo's bro?

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Go1Bucks's picture

Upvotes each for the awesome move quote and reference.

Go Bucks!

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BUCKfutter's picture

if smith wouldn't have misread the NCAA so poorly a couple years ago, urban would have had an "elite" performance in his first year.

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

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NitroBuck's picture

Just so you know, I did not down-vote you.  I simply can't blame the guy for getting hit with unexpectedly harsh punishment.  Prior to this case, the NCAA had not been known to issue a post season ban in Failure to Monitor cases.  My guess it that Smith felt obligated to allow Fickell & Co go to a bowl game they earned under some very difficult circumstances, and that there was a low probability of being hit with a bowl ban.  But you are correct in that if OSU had voluntarily had a post season ban the year before, the Bucks probably would have been facing Notre Dame for the NC. 

Ferio.  Tego.

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AndyVance's picture

...on the other hand, if Smith hadn't "misread the NCAA so poorly" (an accusation I'm not 100% behind, for what it's worth), Urban probably wouldn't be coaching here now, right?

Posterchild's picture

Meyer always challenges people at the podium, players and coaches alike. Smith challenging Meyer and he has a point, Meyer is already one of the highest paid coaches in America; so until he wins a B1G championship and/or a National Championship, what justifies raising his salary?

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hodge's picture

Took the words right out of my mouth.  Well said.

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Chief B1G Dump's picture

No doubt.
Shots fired. Urban jas criteria by which to be evaluated...whilst he is ever evaluaying the challenges he sets for his players.

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Jeremypreemo81's picture

Posterchild I wish i could upvote. Well said. This will only challenge UFM even more, to be the best and expect the best from his coaches and players

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I don't see the need to redo the contract after just two years, one of which ended with the Buckeyes losing twice as a favorite.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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twism21's picture

Is Gene Smith still hopeful that Tressel won't dismiss him?

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tennbuckeye19's picture

FYI:That was Gee's comment, not Smith.

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bleedscarlet's picture

Would be a hilarious twist of fate to see Smith fired and Tress hired into the AD position. Unlikely? yep... but I can dream.... miss The Vest.....

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

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OSU_1992_UFM's picture

Like 5 million isn't a lot of money lol

Shouldn't be changed until he wins something

UFM_Renewal

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

He won the division....twice.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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buckeyepastor's picture

I love Urban Meyer.  I hope he stays for many more years.  But I think he already has a generous contract for the time being.   When he wins the conference, gets to a title game, etc., then we can talk a new contract.   He is entering his third season.  Most of the roster is "his boys."   The future looks bright, and the win streak was phenomenal, close to unprecedented.  But in the present, we are a team on a two-game losing streak, with losses against the two best opponents we have faced under Urban Meyer.    He has re-established us on the national scene and has improved the culture from where we were in 2010 and 2011.  But it takes more than just winning the games you're supposed to win.   

 

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Hovenaut's picture

"...probably when he wins a championship..."

Ok. That sounds super to me.

Hate Week runneth over

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bleedscarlet's picture

Not sure of the question that lead to Smith saying this or what context it came from but the idea Meyer has something to prove in order to receive a raise in salary is ridiculous. Never mind the success he's had elsewhere, this program COULD have completely fallen off a cliff (mediocrity probably more likely) after "tatgate" but instead it is now back to being one of the most premier programs in the country. I don't know what price tag one would stick on that but Urbz is responsible for it and if that man wants a raise, Natty or not, they need to give it to him. If he left tomorrow OSU would make a big hire and stay near the top, if he never came here at all, I'm not so sure how far the Buckeyes could have stumbled.

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

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andyb's picture

the idea Meyer has something to prove in order to receive a raise in salary is ridiculous

 As opposed to everyone else in the history of ever?

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bleedscarlet's picture

If you don't want to give him the credit for where OSU is now relative to where they could have been, fine... but a coach with 2 titles has already proven his value.

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

Furious George 27's picture

I agree and thats why he is paid 5 million a year right now… So until he brings one to OSU he hasn't earned the right to be paid more yet.

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

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kmp10's picture

Respect your opinion, but disagree. Meyer hasn't won anything as yet. Had you told me the day Urban Meyer was hired that two years into his tenure OSU would be three years removed from its last B1G title I would have laughed… but that's exactly where they are. In addition, he has presided over the worst defense I've personally ever seen at Ohio State (I'm 50). That the defense is so far off is still very concerning to me. Listen, I'm thrilled that Meyer is the head coach at Ohio State. I love that he's a Buckeye, born and raised, and that this job is in his DNA… but to increase his 5mil a year compensation before there's reason makes no sense. Someone created a thread a week or so ago asking where Tressel ranked as a head coach during his OSU career. The answers pretty much mentioned the same people: Carroll, Saban, Meyer, Brown, Miles, Tressel. I said that I couldn't say for sure if I would take Meyer over Tressel. I probably would based on Meyer being a top two recruiter, but I was going to reserve judgement until seeing if Meyer can accomplish what Tressel had in his decade leading the program. If I'm Gene Smith I wait to bump Meyer's compensation until he wins at least a B1G title. I think that's fair and smart. 

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SPreston2001's picture

Yeah lets give everyone raises based on what they did at their previous jobs... Thats not the way wage increases work buddy...

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bleedscarlet's picture

~~Never mind the success he's had elsewhere, this program COULD have completely fallen off a cliff (mediocrity probably more likely) after "tatgate" but instead it is now back to being one of the most premier programs in the country....

This speaks directly to what he's done HERE. The rest of the country would be all too happy to shovel dirt on a Buckeye grave and try and bury us as fast as possible. Meyer came in and immediately showed everyone where they can stick their shovels.

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

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bleedscarlet's picture

I suppose it's all good to think that... until ND decides to buy out his contract and give him $5.5 mill a year and we're left holding our willies. Don't think it can happen? Over paying for success is how we got to these astronomical salaries to begin with and it's not stopping. Other colleges out there see the 24 straight wins, they know about the 2 titles, the undefeated season at Utah... someone is bound to be looking to steal him, even if they have to over pay so OSU must do the same or risk losing him. Is that not why teams negotiate extensions with raises, to keep coaches locked up and everyone else away?

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

luckynutz's picture

Umm...couple thing wrong with this logic. Number one...notre dame is already overpaying brian kelly. Number two...this is the last stop for urban. Its come full circle, and hes home. Hes all but publicly stated this is where he wanted to be, and this is it for him. His wife has said the same thing. So if youve found the job, have already banked an ass ton of money, and are content with life as it is...whats the upside to leaving? An extra zero in an already massive salary?

doodah_man's picture

12-0 Check

12-0 Check

B1G Championshp Nope

NCAA Champtionship Nope

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

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Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

While I'm not a fan of Gene Smith I believe Urban needs to win a major BCS bowl or win a national title to get a raise.  Dude makes a ridiculous amount of money as it is.  

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mobboss1984's picture

I was wandering, why does everyone hate gene Smith so much? Can someone fill me in. I'm a young guy

Always be yourself, express yourself, have faith in yourself, do not go out and look for a successful personality and duplicate it.
Bruce Lee
 

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andyb's picture

a lot of people don't like him for the way he handled the Tat-Gate Scandal and think he should have imposed a ban on a bowl game back when Fickell was the interim coach so we would not have been hit with one in Urbans first year as HC...there are other things but those would probably be the two biggest reasons.

 

Also, Where were you wandering?

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ronbizi's picture

 

Also, Where were you wandering?

Hilarious!  I completely skipped over that and you almost made me spit out my drink!

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mobboss1984's picture

Haha, I just noticed that.

Always be yourself, express yourself, have faith in yourself, do not go out and look for a successful personality and duplicate it.
Bruce Lee
 

nburns18's picture

For all the hype Urban has gotten (which he is worthy of) he certainly needs to win something before he gets a raise. the 2 good teams we've played since Urban arrived we lost to. He has his people in there now, so there cant be any more excuses. He has to bring us a Big ten championship this year, thats #1 on the list. Hopefully that vaults us into the playoff where maybe we'll be able to make some noise. But missing out on the Big ten Title again is not acceptable. But i am optimistic 

"You win with people." -Woody Hayes

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ChazBuckeye's picture

Oh Gene...don't act like you got Urban to come to OSU and now he's got to "prove" he's worthy of a top 5 coaches salary. Let's get this straight, unless this is some type of ploy between Meyer and Gene to seem like a motivational tool, he should understand that Meyer tells him what to do. Just as he will to the next A.D. when Smith steps down for another job.  This is quite amusing to me to be honest. 

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

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mb5599's picture

When are they going to fire Smith and make Archie the AD????????????????????????????????

Big B

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Eph97's picture

I think he's paid fair.Hasn't really done much to warrant a raise; no B1G championships or bowl wins. Make a playoff appearance and get a bump. Raising him now would just make it seem like OSU has a slavish devotion to football, like Alabama, and isn't a respected academic institution.

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ColPhiTau's picture

After $5M, who's counting? Seriously. Like they said on HOUSE OF CARDS, power trumps money, until one day you don't have power. Urban is from modest roots, galactic ego, but modest roots. He give back, not gives away, but gives back. He's provided for his family, rediscovered them actually. Good for him. He's in this for the long haul. He delegates well, but he never forgets. He sleeps better at night than those of you who throw rocks. For the vast majority of Buckeyes, the new generation, these ARE the good 'ol days right here right now. Nice 'problem' to have. Never forget, you COULDA had to go to Purdue. So shut up and live good.

Class '66

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pdan46's picture

I have no idea what Smith means, but I do know that 24-2 plus three straight elite recruiting classes means elite performance to me!

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tracyre's picture

Thank you for that. 

Buckman's picture

0 B1G titles

0 National titles

Worst defense in years/decades.

Lost to Clemson in the bowl game

He has not earned a raise.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.

JACK TATUM

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buckeyedexter's picture

Smith trying to be cheap is going to force Meyer to pull a Saban and pretend like he's going to Texas just to get paid what he's worth, and that's going to give me a heart attack.

pamemake's picture

Buckeyes play the softest non conference schedule known to man. You can't respect a team or their record when they fold under the pressure from a decent team. 24-2 is not elite when your schedule is marshmallow. Get over yourselves.

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OH10G419's picture

24 straight wins is a feat no matter what level or schedule.. There were still teams that had lots of talent that we played. . Sry we took a year or 2 off from Texas USC miami, and scheduled Cal 10 yrs ago when they were good...

Our schedules are still better than Michigan's consistent UCONN UMASS DELAWARE.. yea they play ND... ND is relevant till about week 7 as is Michigan... but Michigan is usually the ones with hardons after going 4-0 to start every year

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lsjSnail's picture

You're simply an idiot.

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FitzBuck's picture

So Pamemake clearly lives under a bridge.

dont bother reading just down vote and move on.  Thanks for ending my policy of not down voting on the new site.  

Fitzbuck | Toledo - Ohio's right armpit | "A troll by any other name is still a troll".

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O'boy's picture

tressel was coaching in the big ten in down years, the only team that was real good was wis, i mean hey lets face it that helps win championships, I do think the big ten is on the rise so its gonna be harder to get those wins now,  indianna minn nw penn st this whole league scares the hell out of me now.hey these Saturdays aren't gonna be like they were We now have better coaching we are the richest league there is which means a better product so I think urban has it a little harder than tress, but don't shut the man down work with him maybe fly the jet on Tuesdays lower gas prices! you know stuff like that

O

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Knarcisi's picture

Gene Smith is a tool, but I fully agree with this. The man makes ~$7M total.  He came here to deliver a national Champiosnhip and no less. After the nightmare he gave us in 2006 to relive again and again, I'd say he man owes us one. 

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Brutal Brutus's picture

The more pressing question - when is Gene Smith's contract up for renewal?  And let's get it right and not renew - what a tool!

Fear the Nut...

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Go1Bucks's picture

I guess that doesn't apply to lying sack o' losers like B1G Gene.

Go Bucks!

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cw823's picture

I completely agree with Gene Smith.  We already had a coach who could get us 10 wins a year then lose the bowl game.  The standard is higher.

Championship or bust.

Now if only we'd make the same decision with Matta.

woodcocklives@osu's picture

The best win to date, by final ranking measures, is the 2012 Northwestern victory.

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Knarcisi's picture

We didn't play Northwestern in 2012. And the 2013 team was 5-7, so not accurate. 

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woodcocklives@osu's picture

You're right, my bad. In reviewing, the best turns out to be 2013's victory over Wisconsin, who finished 22nd in the final polls. But OSU did lead the nation in friendly media hype and excuse making, so thats good.

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alust2013's picture

I get what he is saying, but I don't like the way he said it. What Meyer has done so far, is pretty elite, and he is being paid as such. It's not like being paid $5 million a year sucks, nor does being 6th in the country in salary. Both of those say elite. However, a national championship is even a bit more than that, so I get what he is saying, it just kinda sounded like he was bashing Meyer. 

CW823, the idea of winning a championship every year is pretty absurd. I wouldn't watch football if I couldn't enjoy it without a championship. Also, Matta has done a pretty darn great job in the time he has been here, and has had the most success since Fred Taylor. He would have a championship from 07 if he hadn't had to play one of the most ridiculous college teams in recent memory in the title game, and the 2010-11 squad was clearly the best team in the country basically the whole season and even on a very off night barely lost to Kentucky. He also has the built in disadvantage of being at a football school. Places like Duke and UNC and Kansas and Indiana have a lot easier of a time getting top recruits than OSU, and Matta still gets some big names and does well. There is no other school in the country that has been as consistently good at both big sports as OSU in the past decade, so I don't see what's to complain about. 

...and _ichigan still sucks.

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Knarcisi's picture

I think this was Gene's attempt to surface to imply he actually does something. 

tracyre's picture

Think the whole thing doesn't need to b discussed in public and I think Jeremy Fowler is a troll for going there.  

That is all.

cal3713's picture

I knew I shouldn't have read the comments for this article.  Everyone loves to trash Gene Smith even though he's one of the most successful ADs in the country.  It's almost as stupid as voting for Drew Carey over Dave Chappelle.

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seafus26's picture

I don't have a problem with Gene motivating Urban to strive for more; much like Urban does with his players.  However, don't talk about a man's pay and evaluate him vs his peers in the media.  My bonuses and pay often ride on how well the wells we drill produce, the speed and safety we complete them. If any of those aspects must be tweaked or need to strive for more, it is never discussed in the media.  With rig counts as high as they are around the globe, if that happened, I'd be gone to the highest bidding competitor. 

On another note:  We would have smoked notre lame, Gene.  Thanks for costing us a national title in exchange to go flounder in a "who cares" bowl, the previous year. The Golden Domer's D made millions for Eddie Lacey in that game. El Guapo would have jumped up the draft charts after destroying their run D, even more than the Crimson Tide.  The down side is, Hyde would have gone pro, after running wild that night.  As much as we enjoyed watching Carlos plow wolverweinies, we all would have taken that trade off.

Go Bucks and michigan STILL SUCKS!

BuckeyeBBD's picture

While I agree with the sentiment, I think it was a poor choice of words.  Of course Urban doesn't need a raise.  Especially considering that he has yet to win a B1G championship or bowl game with OSU.  However saying that back to back 12 win seasons isn't an elite performance is just belittling the teams that earned those wins.  Again, I agree that Urban's contract doesn't need to be reworked yet.  I understand that having no conference championship or bowl win stings, but I have a hard time saying a 24-2 record since being at OSU isn't elite.

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." - Wayne Woodrow Hayes

bucksfan92's picture

How Gene Smith even has his job, let alone got a raise and promotion recently, is beyond my comprehension.  It is a pretty sad state of affairs when a school has not allowed the AD speak publicly at basketball games for over 2 years due to the justified fear of another embarrassing episode where he gets booed off the court.

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