I'd prefer night games or 3:30 games over noon games.....the atmosphere is just so much better bc everyone in the stadium is more awake and especially night time the place is an inferno......3:30 games late in the year are nice as well bc they end up around 7 or so when it is darker out and it has a second half night atmosphere.......wish osu would say screw it to the "tv suits" and say we are having all 3:30 or night home games.....
Agreed. The students are barely awake for noon games.
I haven't gone back to the shoe in a few years, but I live at a distance that would make it worth spending the night in Columbus the night before a noon game or spending the night after an 8:00 game (which I would be more inclined to do for a quality game than a noon game against a cupcake). For that reason, 3:30 is my first choice and 8:00 is a close second.
From a national media standpoint, I love the attention that an 8:00 game brings.
The students are still drunk at noon games, and too far gone at 8 pm games. 3:30 is the only logical conclusion.
And the problem with being too far gone is.....?
Haha just playin, but I prefer night games, as the atmosphere is always twice was it is at 3:30 and 10x what it is at noon games
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We were plenty loud for USC and Nebraska (both night games.) I like the 8pm start the best, BY FAR. The anticipation of the game builds the whole weekend for students and tailgaters and the atmosphere never disappoints.
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We belong on the national stage. Noon games are barely noticable.
Anything besides noon games. Evening games on national tv are the best for exposure and on-campus recruiting, even if the students are barely conscious.
3:30 for average pre-conference and conference games. 8:00PM for primetime matchups (including Michigan)
The Game should always be at noon and it should always be the third Saturday in November dammit!
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I love tradition as much as the next guy, but my favorite UM game of all time was the only one I can remember that didn't start at noon.
Basically all of my favorite OSU games recently started at 3:30 or 8:00. The noon starts all kind of blend together, but I clearly remember 2009 against USC, 2009 against Iowa in OT, 2010's 2nd half comeback win against PSU, 2011's last minute win against Wisconsin, 2012's offensive explosion against Nebraska.
I love sunny weather for the Spring Game, but I'd even take that later in the afternoon/at night if the administration would support it.
Give me night games until late October then move to 3:30 games...
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That environment was intense and I almost crowd surfed(had it not been for the skinny old guy 2 rows down that didn't look like he could hold me).
3:30 is perfect. Great Fall afternoon atmosphere with tailgating, and then by halftime, it is perfect for the halftime show and second half rowdiness.
2006 game against TTUN was amazing. 3:30 kickoff.
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I prefer 3:30 kickoffs for most games. You can get up and tailgate for lunch, go to the game and post-game go to dinner. ...My life revolves around food.
Any out of towners chiming in on this? I'm a season ticket holder that lives in Indianapolis and makes the 3 hour trip each way on Saturdays to the Shoe. Logistically, I prefer the noon games because I can get back home at a decent hour and have Saturday night to hang out. I assume there are plenty of others that drive quite a ways to get to the games. There's also something pretty majestic about being on campus as the sun rises and the fog lifts.
That being said, I love the night games as well for the atmosphere. But let's not cheapen it by having 3 or 4 per year. I remember we played Marshall at night a few years ago, which was cool as the season opener, but kind of "meh" for a game that we won by 50 points or something like that.
3:30 games are a nice compromise, but I don't like them early on in the season because the shadows are just awful for viewing, and I'm sure for the players as well.
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Yeah, and another consideration is the Central Time Zone people and teams. When we play @Northwestern or @Illinois at noon, that's a 11am start local time and going to those games, you drive in the night before for sure and get up super early to tailgate. It's not fun, certainly better in those situtations to be a 3:30 game.
It makes me feel like less of an alcoholic if I start drinking at 7 opposed to 11am. So I'll go with night games.
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You only start drinking an hour before the game? You're doing it wrong.
Anything but noon games, they suck to high heaven.
I like noon games I hate waiting all day
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I love the 8:00 games they are the best to go to the fans are rowdy at a night game love the atmosphere.
I'll take a 3:30 game anytime. By the time its over its night so its kind of the best of both worlds. Plus driving up from Cincy I can leave Saturday morning as opposed to staying the weekend and having to get up there on Friday. Plus the 3:30 game atmosphere is so much more involved than the noon games. Probably what Urbz likes besides the recruting edge it gives.
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I did not see Marshall but was in the Shoe for night games against Northwestern, USC, Texas, Nebraska, Wisconsin and even Wyoming. That last one was a snoozer because there were no students but I would rather have a night game if at all possible. I love that this is a possibility. I also was at the mich-again 3:30 start and that was FANTASTIC.
i live out of state. But convenience is not important. ATMOSPHERE is. And I actually wake up in time if the game starts after 1 pm.
One would think that I would prefer night games because I live on the west coast. However my favorite time is in the afternoon. When I was in school most games started at 1 pm. However TV changed all that long ago. The noon games are interesting when I am at home because I can start my day off with breakfast and the Buckeyes. 3:30 games are great when I travel back to the shoe.
I know that many prefer night games, including Urban. However, I just can't see any logic in playing night games when you bring a west coast team to Columbus. Just take a look at pro football for an example of why. The Seahawks have only won 1 game in their existence when they play the early game back east. Yet they are a .500 or better when they play late afternoon or evening. It's just that I think we should take every home field advantage we can when playing marquee matchups. After all, they do it to us when we travel out west, by scheduling 8 pm PST games. And that start time is not dictated by TV because the networks would much rather have a 5 pm PST start. They do it because east cost teams have a terrible record when they play that late on the west coast. Yes, you get the exposure of prime time with an 8 pm home game, but what good is it when it neutralizes your home field advantage? Now when OSU plays east coast or midwest teams it makes no difference.
Woody absolutely hated that TV was taking over control of game times and the game clock. I'm probably a little old school like him when it comes to this.
Best solution to this problem: Noon games for any MAC or layup nonconference games
8pm and 330 starts for BCS and conference competition up until november
330 starts after november (it is essentially a night game with the days getting shorter)
Noon game the 3rd week in November for "The Game"
You could add another noon game with a lower tier conference game in there for the older alum who prefer earlier starts
if i am attending a game at the shoe, i like 3:30 start times over night games. night games are a tremendous event, however it is a 3 hour drive to the stadium for me. makes for a very tired drive home, after a night game is over. if watching from home, then i rather see 8 p.m. games or 7 p.m.
I'd like to see the other sides arguments for why more night games would be a bad thing ... please tell me why ... there is no reason because night games at the Shoe are magical and should happen several times a season.
JTHIEL, See my post above. Late games for west coast teams take away home game time advantage. I know people in athletic departments out here, and they all laugh when they have the luxury of playing a night game back east - they think it more than neutralizes the home field advantage even with the rowdier crowd. They all absolutely hate it if they have to play a noon game (eastern time) - that takes the home field advantage and multiplies it. However, for east coast or midwest teams there is no neutralizing effect of the late game.
Also, for anyone traveling any distance to and from the game, night games suck for the drive home, noon games suck for the drive there, 3:30 games hit the sweet spot. Also, I can fly in from the west coast on a late Friday flight, make it to Cbus by 11 am, and enjoy game festiviites for a 3:30 game, then catch a 6 am flight back to the west coast on Sunday. Noon and 8 pm games really screw up that schedule.
There are many sides to this debate. Many good reasons on both sides. While I am not overly in favor of 8 pm games, I love the atmosphere. Particularly for B1G games. But, I still get to campus as early as possible, nothing like a full day on campus.
Problem being our buckeyes always start off terribly and sluggish in noon games it seems like......so the noon time more than hurts us as well
Most games should start at 3:30. Big games at 8:00. Noon games are terrible. No game should start before 1:00.
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I bet if they sold Buckeye Beer at home games you'd be for 12pm kickoffs, no?
Nothing beats a night game at the shoe.
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If only 1pm and 4pm games existed in B1G football like it does in the NFL... No one seems to complain about 1pm and 4pm kick-offs... Amirite?
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2 of the best 3 games of the week are typically on Sunday night (#1, imo) and MNF (#2), with the other being the 4pm game of the week. Almost every Thursday features a night game now, as well.
I think part of the appeal is that people want to watch football all day long. I do (unless Michigan loses early). Noon, 3:30, 7:00, 8:00, and 10:00 and flip as much as I can.
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Must suck for you every time Ohio State beats Michigan then?.....lol
As a student the noon games were always tough to get going for because of partying the night before (I know should have been at the library studying), the 8pm games typically took 3 to 4 years off of your life expectancy (almost akin to a death race). 330 games I always felt were the best of both worlds because you had enough time to get going but not enough time to wind up facedown in mirror lake.
8:00...no question. Let the students have more time to get lathered up as well as the older fans like myself. It gives me time to get stuff done around the house if I'm not going down to the game...that way I can sit and watch without interruptions. IMO of course...
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It has to be a mix, you can't start every game at 8pm, otherwise the atmosphere we all love will not be there anymore...
-Start the MAC and lower conf. matchups at noon.
-Any visiting BCS non conf. should be an 8pm game.
-Keep the best B1G matchup a year at 8pm as we have been doing.
-All other B1G matchups start at 3:30pm.
-Keep the Michigan game at noon (it gets more attention nationally by being the most important noon game), unless one of the teams is undefeated, then 3:30pm or 8pm.
This way we are guaranteed at least two night games a year, and once we move to a 9 game conf schedule, only 2 noon games per year...
Good points, although I'm inclined to agree with NW Buckeye that visiting BCS non-conf games against western time zone teams should begin at 12 noon, to maximize home field advantage. Heck, start the game at 11 AM and really mess with their internal clocks!
Agreed. Make it so.
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Too cold in November for 8 to me! I'd prefer 3:30 games!
There would have been times this year where that statement was false as it was actually warmer later in the day on the october and november game days as the wind went away and air was stagnant
8 PM Games please...I have never been filled with more adrenaline and have never heard anything louder than the 2009 USC game...and we lost...I cant imagine what the shoe would have done if we won!
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Last years Nebraska, 06' Michigan (1 vs 2 game), and 05' Texas would have to argue with that statement....both 05' Texas and the 09' USC game both came down to the wire and we lost but then the atmosphere was just sucked out of the place with the loss.......Nebraska and Michigan were crazy games and it was insanely loud in the stadium.....
I am surprised no one mentioned the recruits and the best time for all those 4/5 star guys you love to hear about coming to a game or two. I read somewhere Meyer made a great point that recruits travel on their own dime and if you played high school ball, those games are typically friday night or Saturday mornings. When you couple that with film study/ review and or traveling it makes it difficult to visit. If i had a dime for every time i heard, "if we get him on campus, we have a shot!" Now with Meyer at the helm you must take into consideration half of the kids if not more wont be coming from Ohio. I think the late games are a must for that reason alone to sustain getting top tier prospects especially from the south. You can also add, the money generated for prime time tv, the atmosphere of night games, and the cold factor after dark in November (anyone who loves ohio football shouldn't mind a lil chill.) Those things make midwest ball what it is is, Green bay, Chicago, cleveland, pittsburgh, buffalo, the cold the drama, the build up. High school ball is played mostly in the dark anyway and in ohio we love hs ball just as much as college and proball. For the tailgaters party Friday night, wake up late and party some more. That seems like a win win to me.
How come no love for 2:38 pm games?
All I know is that I hated noon games for TBDBITL. I'm already not a morning person, and then we had to report 6 hours beforehand. Brutal.
Also, the best atmosphere game I've ever attended was Texas in the Shoe in 2005. Despite losing, that place was electric all night. I was also in Madison a few years ago when we lost to UW. Another night game, another amazing atmosphere experience.
I miss the default starting time of 1:30 from when I was a student: early enough so that even late-season games can end in daylight, but not so early as to keep you from sleeping in on a Saturday. I know TV is the reason why we can't have that anymore, and I certainly like having every game televised, but 1:30 was ideal.
Given the choices available, I voted for 3:30. Drinking beer at 10 AM is doable, but lordy it's certainly not advisable.
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If I'm simply viewing the game on TV, I like noon games. Have plenty of time to watch the game, and still get things accomplished. If I'm going to the game, I like the 3:30 kickoff, especially late in the fall. Have plenty of time to get up there, have a few drinks and tailgate, watch the game(sober up too) get something to eat after and drive home.
I'm not stationed there anymore, but noon OSU games were really really hard on me when I was in Hawaii. Not that I'm going to get much sympathy for being stuck in Hawaii . . . but still, game starts at 6am local aren't fun. No one else wants to come over for beer, burgers, and football that early. And none of the sports bars ever opened that early either.
I'd like to see more night games, but to say that 8pm is the "best" isn't cut and dry. I'd like to see a couple night games every season for the marquee matchups and the rest of the games reserved for an earlier start. Kind of defeats the purpose if ALL the games are night games.
Aw come on man! Hawaii?? I would go to a football game at 4 A:M if I was in Hawaii!!!