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Ty Isaac likely to SCUM

The Clean North's picture
June 5, 2014 at 8:33am
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Not sure if this has already made it on here but I've seen that he is starting the admission process. Not official and still some t's to cross but it's heading in that direction. Would much rather see him at Illinois. He had a very similar freshman season at USC that Eze had here so..

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blocko330's picture

Honestly at this point they could take whoever and they still find a way to be wildly mediocre and underachieve.

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+8 HS
Hayze's picture

Would be a huge get for them. But, would also help us with Damien Harris. That'd be three running backs they took from the 2013 class.

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bethesdabuck's picture

Will he have to sit out a year? Yes, I think this would put them out of the running for Harris. 

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kholmes's picture

I have to agree with you on this one. If Isaac does come, it will hurt Michigan with Harris and Weber. I know kids all say they welcome competition but everyone looks at the depth chart to some degree as its the smart thing to do.

It sounds like Isaac would have to sit out if he transferred to Michigan (but might not if he went to Northwestern or closer school as there is a possible hardship situation with his mother's health). Michigan falls well outside of the 100 mile radius for any hardship transfers. If Isaac does sit out a year, that would essentially put him in the class in front of Harris/Weber. Previously Michigan didnt have a RB in that 2014 class.

From all the buzz, Michigan had clearly fell a bit behind with Harris/Weber so that made it make more sense to push hard for Isaac. It sounds like Michigan had fallen behind as the lingering effects of the 7-6 season, poor running game, rumors about Hoke status had weakened their position. All of those things could have possibly gone away if they have a successful season this year so they could have got back in it given Harris/Weber supposedly waiting until end of season to decide. Those chances will probably get hurt if Isaac comes.

+8 HS
TheTeam16's picture

Honestly think Issac is better than weber, probably on the same level as harris. Played against much better competition in HS, and is somewhat of a proven commodity, not too worried. 

-2 HS
Groveport Heisman's picture

So now Issac is on the same level as Damien Harris the #1 RB that presumably *ichigan lost and has little shot at, but rival tOSU sits pretty with? Good logic. I'd say Issac is more along the lines of Derrick Green the other overrated oversized RB you guys already have.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

-10 HS
blueinsconsin's picture

Isaac was a 5 star, #4 RB Nationally recruit and has a year of tough D1 football under his belt (which in limited time was pretty dang good). Harris, while a fantastic athlete, plays in a high school football level that has very low competition and has question marks about how he'll adapt to D1 ball...So yeah, Isaac is at least the same level but probably above Harris at this point. That being said, I still really want Michigan to get Harris and really hope OSU doesn't. It has nothing to do with who the "favorite" is to land the kid.

Not here to troll...Go Blue

-1 HS
TheBadOwl's picture

So yeah, Isaac is at least the same level but probably above Harris at this point.

Seeing as Ty Isaac is two years older than Harris, I'd really hope that he's a better player right now.

Of course, when Damien Harris is a college sophomore, he'll probably be a superstar. As great as Isaac was in high school, I just don't see him becoming a star. For a big back, he's not very physical, and I'd be shocked if he ever has a good line to run behind at Michigan.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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Groveport Heisman's picture

There was huge question  marks surrounding Issac coming out too,its a nice spin and I'll give you that. Harris currently is rated on 247 as having Speed-9,Power-9,Tackling breaking ability-9, everything else is a 8 or 9 also. Kid is a beast and I know its love the one you got not the one you lost,I can understand the reasoning. If Issac was all he was cracked up to be he would have had more yards then D.Green by now and wouldnt be tranffering out.If your mom is sick you go as close as possible to her.Driving distance.Its not like NW isnt pretty much on par with  *ichigan in football at the moment and has less depth and talent to compete with.Now you are saying Issac is even better then the #1RB in the Nation? I cant even wrap myself around your logic up there.And Isaac was a 4* on 247. But now he is attending *ichigan he is better then every RB to grace College football.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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blueinsconsin's picture

I fail to see what you're getting it and understand your logic.  You're also putting words in people's mouths and jumping to A LOT of conclusions.

Harris is a great high school player that faces low competition and has question marks because of that (that's coming not just from me, but many expert recruiting analysts as well).  Can Harris become a great college player, of course, he's a great athlete - he's just unproven right now BECAUSE HE STILL HAS TO PLAY HIS SENIOR YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL.  Isaac (correct spelling) was a great high school player that has a year of good D1 football experience (very similar stats to Ezekiel Elliott).  Comparing these two right now is probably impossible and pretty pointless.  

 

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Groveport Heisman's picture

Yea its a no win argument either way for the next 4 years. Hey it is a good pick up but one in hindsight am glad we didnt make because we are in good position with a couple of the top backs and it would have lessened our chances. Great pick up for*ichigan and hopefully the kid can live up to his ranking.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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TheTeam16's picture

So youre saying osu really wanted this oversized overrated recruit last year...cause they recruited him just as hard as everyone else.

-1 HS
Groveport Heisman's picture

Can you show me where we recruited him just as hard? We werent even pressed and didnt even take a RB last year.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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TheBadOwl's picture

He's from the 2013 class, so the same one as Elliott and Wilson. Once we got Eze, we backed off our running back targets.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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Groveport Heisman's picture

Oh this kid was also in the Derrek Green class? Yea we targeted EzE and Dontre and got exactly the 2 we wanted. I remember us backing off of Green and he wanted to be a Buckeye badly. His hero was Eddie George.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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TheTeam16's picture

You also recruited Ty hard. Go back and look. He was ahead of Elliot on the board.

Groveport Heisman's picture

Now you have had a look at Meyer and Hermans big board? ROFL have heard it all now. Keep that *ichigan logic alive buddy.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

-10 HS
TheTeam16's picture

No, but if you trust the writers on this board that is what they reported...

TheBadOwl's picture

Yeah, he was ahead of Zeke in online recruit rankings, and we initially recruited him hard. But Zeke was our top target, the staff was on him before he blew up. We got our top target, added a great complementary weapon in Dontre, and called it a class.

Ty is a good running back. I don't think he's as good as Derrick Green or Zeke. He'll give you guys some nice depth, but I don't think he'll ever be a star.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

+2 HS
TheTeam16's picture

Why was he ranked so high if he is nothing special cause literally every analyst disagrees with you. On him being better than elliot and on the statement he won't be anything special.

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Groveport Heisman's picture

247 has them both ranked 4* 95's...We got the one we wanted believe that. Elliot was under the radar then went out to The Opening and ran a 4.4 and looked absolutely great in everything. His recruitment exploded after that but he was all Buckeye.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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TheBadOwl's picture

Zeke was slept on because he played in Missouri, whereas Isaac played in a much more publicized league.

As far as our staff was concerned, Eze was the guy they wanted. Everyone wanted Derrick Green, he was ranked even higher than Zeke on the recruiting sites, but the staff took Eze and then stopped recruiting Isaac and Green. This was despite having plenty of room in the class for another back.

For a guy as big as Isaac is, he doesn't run with much power. He's got a great spin move and some good vision, his cuts are good and he has solid top-end speed. He's a solid back, he'd be a great #2 running back, but he'll never be a Walker contender IMO.

I actually think the best back that you guys got in that class is Deveon Smith, and he wasn't even close to being as highly-touted as Green and Isaac.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

TheTeam16's picture

Green will be the best back UM has had since A Train if the OL can get some consistency. Which I expect then too with Nuss not changing the scheme every week...

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Groveport Heisman's picture

Deveon Smith will wind up being the feature back up there the next 3 years in my opinion. Kid was undervalued by the recruiting services while Green was  hugely overvalued. I'd put money on Smith being the man. He has great vision,power,and tackle breaking ability. He needs holes to get past the line of scrimmage but hell what back doesnt.Hershel Walker wouldnt have put up great numbers behind the line they fielded last year.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

TheTeam16's picture

Green has better feet and vision. Smith played so so competition in HS.

-3 HS
Groveport Heisman's picture

Only thing Green has over Smith is a eating habit and mythical recruiting ranking. Smith is the kid that will bring respectability back to your run game.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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TheTeam16's picture

Yeah kids never show up at school overweight.

I don't agree with you, he will be a good back...but not great. DG has the tools to be great that Smith lacks. 

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BlueBayou's picture

the staff took Eze and then stopped recruiting Isaac and Green.

Not true.  The tOSU staff was still recruiting Green after Eze's commitment.  Alex even confirmed as much in the comment of Eze's commitment post.  The staff didn't decide until almost 4 months after Eze's commitment that they could only take one running back and stopped recruiting Derrick Green.  As for Isaac, tOSU offered him three months earlier than Eze, so he was at least on their radar sooner, and I guess it is hard to tell when the staff stopped recruiting Isaac because they weren't really considered one of his top choices and he committed to USC within a month of Eze's commitment.

Either way, none of this really matters.  Eze looks like he is going to be a very good back for you guys and between Green, Smith, and Isaac, Michigan has some good depth at RB now and just needs the OL to improve.  Fingers crossed that consistency with blocking schemes helps this year.

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TheTeam16's picture

Thank you Bayou!

Groveport Heisman's picture

Wow man...these *ichigan fans lie and dont know what they are talking about but fellow buckeyes voted me into the dirt? Honestly looking for a reason I knew blue would team up on me but expected my brethren to step up.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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TheTeam16's picture

He listed articles that contain factual information directly rendering your argument moot, how is that lying?

How can you argue what he has presented? You cannot.

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skid21's picture

If OSU really wanted Green they wouldn't have accepted Elliott's commitment. They stopped recruiting him in July which, in MANY people's mind, means they really didn't want him. You really think if they wanted him they wouldn't have found a spot for him? Ridiculous.

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BuckeyeJ's picture

And it made Green (a Buckeye fan) hate the bucks and go to TTUN. I feel he like so many other kids his age, got with the wrong "gym peeps" and came in way to heavy

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sox33osu's picture

I agree with you about the RB depth point. As far as the OL goes, though, how is there such a dearth of talent? Your Soph/Junior year classes going into this year were completely loaded with OL studs.

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TheTeam16's picture

You hit it right on the head. This is the first year we will have upperclassmen on the interior of the line since we won the sugar bowl. Lines are built from the inside out for a pro style offense. You can live with mediocre tackles, you cannot have bad guards or a center. It will not work. Also, changing offensive philosophy every week doesn't help. The one year we had upper classmen on the interior and has a consistent offensive philosophy we won a BCS game. If it is not better this year, then there is absolutely no hope.

703Buckeye's picture

Ty Issac is a great talent but I must present this question... what o-line will he have to run behind if he goes to M!chigan?

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

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Hovenaut's picture

Probably one where he runs for his life...

+9 HS
TheTeam16's picture

Whatever OL it is, it will be better/same than last year...because it LITERALLY cannot get any worse...

703Buckeye's picture

Without Lewan and Schofield, I beg to differ.

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

rosycheeks's picture

Ewing theory. I bet Michigan's line is decent this year. But I will laugh hysterically if it's not.

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Groveport Heisman's picture

Yea they lose by far their 2 best lineman that also happened to play the 2 most important positions and they some how magically think they are going to be head and shoulders better. Its *ichigan logic buddy.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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TheTeam16's picture

No one ever said we would be "head and shoulders better" no one even said that we would be better...I said "literally cannot be any worse".

Are you illiterate?

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Groveport Heisman's picture

Whatever OL it is, it will be better than last year...because it LITERALLY cannot get any worse...

Nope not illiterate,You said it was going to be better, just calling you out on your bullshit logic. Love how when you get called out on something you resort to personal attacks. News for you...your  Oline is going to be scary bad this year. Those guys who couldnt step in front of DT's on the inside last year are not going to be able to block some very high quality DE's the B1G has this year. But you call me illiterate when you cant even read your own post correctly?

P.S. I see you went back and edited your post to say better/same..After calling somebody else out on being illiterate. There is that Northern class we have all grown to Love.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

-5 HS
blueinsconsin's picture

It will probably be a better line ( but still a very average line) b/c the guys are maturing, the concepts are simpler, won't change every other week and focus on stupid crap like Tackle Over for 6 weeks with Borges gone.  Now, it's just a question if Funk is a good OL coach or not and can get through to these guys with a new OC and new offense.  Their recruiting profiles and rankings say they should be good, but probably not until their jr and sr years.

Not here to troll...Go Blue

+2 HS
TheTeam16's picture

You said "head over heels"...no one said that.

TheTeam16's picture

God I am so happy there is not an example in all of the history of football where a team had a really bad unit one year, and the next year turned it around...

Oh Wait...

Oh and the line was made up of RS freshman and Soph. last year on the interior...but oh shit I forgot...there is not an example in all of the history of football where young players called into action before they were ready played poorly, but then turned it around the next season using the experience to their benefit. 

Might as well not even play the games, we are sooooooooooooooooo assfucked. 

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TheTeam16's picture

I went back to edit it because that is what I meant to convey when I wrote it at a meeting in work earlier on in the day. 

I am sorry, it will never happen again. 

Ahh Saturday's picture

Reminds me of the old joke: A pessimist says things can't possibly get any worse.  An optimist says yes they can!!!

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TheTeam16's picture

Trust me, it won't be worse.

-4 HS
Buckeyevstheworld's picture

That's what Michigan fans said after the 2012 season.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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