Alabama Won't Play Cincinnati in Nippert Stadium

August 11, 2014 at 11:30a    by DJ Byrnes    
38 Comments

Alabama already cancelled their trip to Michigan State in 2016 (and replaced it with a home tilt against Western Kentucky), and it appears they're rattled by the prospect of playing in Cincinnati:

Of course, Alabama can make more money off neutral site games than games at Cincinnati, and they do still owe Nick Saban tens of millions of dollars. 

Long live the home-and-home series! 

Source: @JFowlerCBS

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Oyster's picture

I feel that as the playoff evolves the OOC games will become crucial to getting into the field of 4 (or 8 or 16).  That will give the Cincy's of the world the bargaining chip they need to demand a home and home.  "You want me for your SOS, then play me at home.

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

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Catch 5's picture

Everyone keeps saying this, but I don't see it.  Funny how it seems the same people say that only the conference champions should be included.  If that is the case, you greatly decrease the importance of the OOC games. 

We will see though.  Will the committee pass over an undefeated SEC champion with a weak OOC schedule for a team with a couple losses and a brutal OOC schedule?  I doubt it but I guess it could happen.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

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Oyster's picture

I'm a conference champion proponent and the OOC strength is what determines your seed in the playoff.  Play cupcakes, prepare to have away games.  Play tough, get home field.

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

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Buckeye80's picture

Agreed.  Especially if/when the playoff goes to 8 teams.  Five conference champions and 3 at large bids.  Sorry Notre Dame.....gotta join a conference.  Top 4 get home field.

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Oyster's picture

It will be 8 and then 16 sooner than we think.  The ball is rolling now.  The power 5 have the ability to make their own rules (somewhat), and there is money to be made by expanding the playoff.  Look at it at the lowest level. If the power 5 can make rules, and there is a 4 team playoff right now, one conference is automatically left out.  How long do you think will continue?  For 8 teams, the first round is played at home and the 2nd is at the traditional New Years bowl games.  Go to 16, first two rounds at home, finish up at New Years bowls and then the NC.  All you have to do is start the tourny 2 weeks after the conference championships are done.  Plenty of time to get them in by New Years.

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

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Buckeye80's picture

I agree, although personally I think 8 is enough.

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Oyster's picture

Dick Van Patten agrees.

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

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Unky Buck's picture

I can totally see this too. It'll have to happen and maybe we'll see some Southern teams actually venture out of their own state.

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tennbuckeye19's picture

I would imagine if Alabama agreed to play @ Cincy, the game would be played at Paul Brown Stadium and called a "home" game for Cincy. I can't see Bama saying, "Yeah, we'll play you in your 35,000 capacity stadium."  I had heard part of the agreement with playing a home and home with Penn State a few years back was not only the tradition of both programs but that PSU could guarantee a huge turnout for the game.

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture

Having the game at PBS would make a lot of sense.  It's not like it is very far from Clifton; could just take the streetcar... oh wait, that won't be happening any time soon.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

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BuckeyeinToledo's picture

I went to Toledo and attended tOSU game in Cleveland. Same principal(except I don't see Paul Brown being full of Bama jerseys). I think it would work much better being that it's in Cincy. 

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

-Woody Hayes

MassiveAttack's picture

I see what you did there.  ^

nbshelton729's picture

I would guess that UC will rarely ever play in PBS again after this season, unless OSU agreed to do it.  That was the point of renovating the on campus stadium.  Plus the fans, team, coaches, students all hate playing games at PBS.  Completely different atmosphere.

spqr2008's picture

I think it's because they're scared.  Nippert, due to its construction and the fact it's completely surrounded by taller buildings is really really loud.  It can be as loud as I've ever heard the Shoe on game day.  And Bama is scared of a sub optimal outcome (although 99/100 times I'm picking Bama to beat Cincy).

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nbshelton729's picture

I would agree, but wouldn't use the term scared.  Its the same situation for OSU playing Cincinnati.  While I wish the 2 would play more often with 2 quality programs in the same state.  For the OSU's and Bama's of the world, there is little to gain and a lot to lose by playing Cincy (especially @ Cincy).  If OSU and Bama win, its seen as a game they should win and nothing more.  If they lose then it will hurt perception and recruiting.  Especially if UC were to ever beat OSU, UC could probably get some more recruits.  I'm not saying they'd take any from OSU, but it would help them with competition against Louisville and UK.

You can't spell chump without UM's picture

They're scared to come up north and play a Big East AAC team. LOL.

Brady Hoke ate my comment

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bigtenspeed's picture

It's about money. Even if played at PBS, OSU can make a lot more playing a game in Columbus.

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chicagobuckeye's picture

I love how blind the sec is to the future. All it takes is a few down seasons by the sec, and just playing in the sec won't gaurntee a playoff berth. Other conferences have grasped the idea. Last years Alabama schedule wouldn't cut it and everyone can point to this as why

TheBadOwl's picture

This isn't an SEC thing, we refused to play at Nippert for the exact same reason – because it's a shit stadium that can't fit a big enough crowd.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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sb97's picture

Nippert is a big part of the reason Cincy cant find a home in one of the big 5 conferences.  Don't get me wrong, I have heard that it can be a fun place to watch a game when the crowd is into it but it is just too small.

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Nutbuck1959's picture

Isn't it like 35,000? No, not big enough. As an aside, I just bought my daughter season tix at UC. $70 student ticket included the bus pass to PBS for home games this year while renovation is ongoing. Deal.

@OSUDefender's picture

Not to make excuses for 'Bama, but Nippert is not a legit site for a major college football game.

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toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

'Bama just doesn't want to come north, period. They like their comfort zone in the South better.

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FROMTHE18's picture

Wont get Bama above the Mason-Dixon Line these days

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Catch 5's picture

Yeah!  You have to go all the way back to 2011 for the last time they did.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

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NoVA Buckeye's picture

I can't blame them. We won't, either.

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

So agree to play it at PBS.  Now what, Bama? 

Class of 2010.

Catch 5's picture

The reason this came up in the first place was they wanted a big-named school to open their renovated stadium up with.  Going to PBS would negate that, and when Bama agreed to the season opener with USC I figured this was kaput - well, that and I really don't think anyone at Bama has any desire to help Tommy Tuberville out in any way.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

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Seattle Linga's picture

I know it will never happen but I'd love to see bama travel and play us in the Shoe in November when it's cold and snowy. 

J.Mo's picture

The only way this happens is if College Football playoffs go to home team stadiums for games other than the championship game. Which hopefully the playoff expands past 4 teams and this happens. Or they go to non-traditional bowl game sites for games and we meet an SEC school in Solider Field in Chicago. That would be awesome too. 

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Seattle Linga's picture

Can you imagine if saban agreed to play us in the shoe and it's 13 degrees with snow and ice falling.

apack614's picture

If Cincy could just pull some money together and replace Nippert with a stadium that could hold more than 12 people they could have a damn good program and bright future.

"If we worked half as hard as our band, we'd be champions." - Woody Hayes

BAR43's picture

I am not sure Cincinnati will ever be a "damn good program". The city itself is not that inviting and the university is just as rough. I know other schools are probably not much better and have damn good programs, but no program inside Ohio will get a level of damn good. however if depends on your definition of damn good. They have done well for themselves in the past, but the best that I see them being is a middle of the road ACC team, with a few better than average seasons here and there. Basically I don't think the facilities are holding them back from being damn good.

nbshelton729's picture

Have you been to Cincinnati?  I've lived in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati and fully believe that Cincinnati is the nicest city of the 3.  Although I think Columbus has the better suburban areas.  Also, what do you mean by the University being rough?  If you're talking about 15-20 years ago, then sure.  It has been rated as a top 15 most beautiful campus in the world by Forbes for the last 5 years in a row and lots of new development going up all around campus.  As well as the stadium renovation on campus.  As for the damn good program, you're right it depends on definition.  Over the past 7-8 years UC has played like a 25 top team on average, which is good, but not "damn good".  They would be competitive in most conferences but would hover around the middle as you said until they can catch up talent wise.

Bucksfan's picture

Not surprising, but still a bummer.  I mean, if they won't come to UC, then they sure as shit aren't going to play a home and home with, say,  Northwestern, which boasts only 47,000 to UC's 40,000 (once renovation is complete).  I wonder what the cut-off is for a program like Alabama or Ohio State to say "no" to a home and home.  70,000?  80,000?

yrro's picture

Doesn't surprise or anger me - Cinci's stadium sucks.

Canceling the 2016 MSU game is a bunch of bullshit, though.

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nbshelton729's picture

Wouldn't say it sucks.  It is one of the oldest in the country and is an incredible gameday environment, but the fan amenities have been bad.  That should be solved by the renovations going on right now.  Unless you're talking about capacity, but in that case, do you think Cameron Indoor stadium sucks as well?  I don't care about how many seats it has..its a fun place to watch a game.