Hagerup Apologizes, Mentions Lapsing into "Old Habits"

December 18, 2012 at 6:22a    by Jason Priestas    
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bukyze's picture

As much as a douche he may be for simply attending TSUN, if alcoholism is the problem, I hope he's able to overcome it and fully take control of his life.  Alcoholism isn't good for anyone - even those guys.

hail2victors9's picture

It certainly sounds like substance abuse, of some sort.  Part of me feels really bad for the kid, but part of me feels like there isn't much more Hoke can do.  I would never wish for the dismissal of a student-athlete, but it looks bad if the program is labeled a rehabilitation center.  I do believe in second chances, but 3rd and 4th chances in a public light should not be commonplace.  Best of luck to Hagerup, if he remains a Wolverine, or not.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

buck-I.8's picture

weren't his past violations failed drug tests? It's odd that everyone jumps straight to this idea that he has this alcohol problem (Not you, hail, but I replied to your comment because you'd be the most informed on the issue.)

GoBucks713's picture

I really hope this kid can get some help.

-The Aristocrats!

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Other people(s) in history who couldn't help themselves and ended up lapsing into "Old Habits"

  • Napoleon Bonaparte: escaped from exile on Elba Island, marched on Paris with a renegade army, and reestablished himself as dictator of France for the Hundred Days, before being deposed for the second time and permanently exiled on St. Helena.
  • Germany WWI --> WWII.
  • Alexander Hamilton: after being involved in numerous non-lethal pistol duels with other American aristocrats, Hamilton's lapse into old habits cost him his life against Aaron Burr.
Oyster's picture

You forgot Bill Clinton.  Just sayin...
 
Edit:  Wow, I guess some folks don't like the humor of mentioning somebody who has a tendency to indulge.  My apologies...

hodge's picture

I'd argue that Germany didn't exactly lapse into old habits from WWI to WWII.  If you mean that they were the prime aggressor and impetus for each World War (which is ironic, because the Austo-Hungarian Archduke Franz Fernidand was murdered in the Balkans--but Germany really pulled the strings), then you're correct; but the fall of the Weimar Republic was completely the fault of the Entente.  We made Germany pay so dearly in war reparations that when the Global Great Depression reached Germany (spurred by Germany's solution to merely print one billion Deutschmark to pay off their debt, causing rampant inflation of their currency as a whole), they turned to a radical who promised them a way out.
In summary, bottom line is that Germany became the agressors on two of the most horrible conflicts ever known to civilization (with respect to our veterans--my grandfather included--WWI was probably the nastiest war ever fought), but the circumstances that forced that elliptical evolution (monarchy to republic to dictatorship) were borne not of old habits, but instead of draconian punishment from the Entente--a punishment that they themselves couldn't comprehend.
Yes, it's a silly arguement.  But I like history haha.

BrewstersMillions's picture

And once they bombed Pearl Harbor, it was on.

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

Oyster's picture

FYI, I got that. 

hodge's picture

Shhh, Oyster; he's on a roll.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I was kidding about Germany lapsing into old habits. You make some good points.
On the other hand, the German/Prussian lands/cities that eventually became part of modern Germany have some of the most blood-stained histories in the world - partly for reasons beyond their control.    
We could talk about 19th century German militarization and expansionism. Of course, Germany was not alone - they actually came late to colonization projects, etc. - but the nation did play an important part in shaping the historical forces that ultimately laid the groundwork for WWI.
Likewise, we might even blame German intellectuals for promoting ideas that helped lay the foundations for the disastrous failures of the Weimar Republic as well as other dark forces sweeping Europe in the first half of the 20th century. But if I explain what I mean, I'll get into trouble.
You're right, innocent Germans did not deserve to suffer under the horrible consequences of reparations and the vengeful hand of the Entente. At the same time, innocent French, English, Poles, etc. did not deserve how Germany responded to fall of Weimar, either. My interpretation was that post-WWI reparations, etc. was bad policy from a utilitarian perspective even it was "deserved."  

Doc's picture

Let us not forget their contribution to the culinary arts.  German beer and bratwursts are some of the best in the world.  Doesn't counter balance starting 2 world wars, but in my book it comes close.

"Say my name."

hodge's picture

I fancy myself a Pilsner man (Czech and German), but I think Belgium wins the beer competition running away.

hodge's picture

"My interpretation was that post-WWI reparations, etc. was bad policy from a utilitarian perspective even it was "deserved."

Exactly.  There's no question that Germany played a central role in the rampant miliarization and alliance-building that laid the foundations for the first World War; but to be completely fair, no one thought the war would (d)evolve into the conflict that it became--most assumed it'd be over in a matter of weeks.
No one deserved the monster that Germany became after Weimar's fall, but all those that had a hand in said reparations are largely to blame for it.  When you completely cripple an economy, people get desperate, and in their desparation will look to anyone providing answers.  The Entente (and Wilson, who dragged America into the war's tail end so that he could have a say in the Treaty of Versailles) simply didn't understand the consequences of their vengeance, I'd say that they learned--considering the implementation (and success) of the Marshall Plan (though its intent was to "stop the spread of Communism", it was meant to rebuild war-torn countries, and prevent a Weimar-like collapse) and our rebuilding of Japan.

AndyVance's picture

The one thing that always bugs me about these kind of stories is the assertion from somewhere in the comments (in this case it was on the DetNews site, not here) that troubled player "should have to pay back his scholarship" if he's dismissed, transfers, is hit by a meteor, fails to win Miss America, etc.
I get the emotion behind that feeling, but the truth of the matter is this: the kid probably can't pay the scholarship back (how many of us at that age could), and he probably shouldn't have to. If a student gets an academic scholarship and flunks out at the end of their third year, they don't have to pay it back, they just don't get a fourth year of money. Which, of course, is exactly what would happen if an athlete is tossed from the team.
Just a personal pet peeve of mine when these stories pop up.

Ramzy Nasrallah's picture

Can't believe no one posted this yet.

OSUStu's picture

This becomes significantly less funny when you realize that this mistake was likely due to the young man's continual intoxication.
 
Nah...still pretty damn funny.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

741's picture

That GIF is the first thing I thought of when I realized who "Hagerup" is. #stoned

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Apparently this is real footage of the incident that put Hagerup back in the dog house:

CowCat's picture

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-- Urban Meyer