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More misses than hits. (rivals.com)

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Conroy on 14 Jun 2012 - 7:10pm #

More misses than hits?

 

Vince Young, um, ya....

Ernie Sims, All ACC, All American, first round draft pick

Adrian Peterson, another slam dunk

Derrick Williams, certified miss

Percy Harvin, and another slam dunk

Jimmy Clausen, absolutely tore it up his junior year.  Maybe a miss, but not really.

Terrelle Pryor, unreal on the field

Bryce Brown, certified miss

Ronald Powell, hasn't looked great, but most players don't until their junior year, so this is the make or break year for him

Jadeveon Clowney, only a freshman, but looks like the real deal

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Jason Staff on 14 Jun 2012 - 9:48pm #

Splitting hairs here, but for the #1 recruit in the country, I expect them to be considered one of the top five players in the nation at some point in their collegiate careers.

VY: Yep.

Sims: Good, but nope. His AA nod was from ESPN as a sohpomore and he came nowhere close to landing on an AA team as a junior. All-ACC is great, but again, this is the nation's top recruit we're talking about.

AP: Yep

Derrick Williams: Nope

Harvin: Yep

Clausen: Nope

Pryor: Nope. Amazing talent, but was overhyped. Remember, people were comparing him to VY when he was in HS. Even if you don't consider the off-the-field stuff, he could only make honorable mention All-B1G for his final season. In fact, he didn't make All-B1G 1st or 2nd team once during his time in Columbus. And this is despite being named B1G preseason offensive PoY twice.

Brown: Nope

Powell: Nothing yet, but still time.

Clowney: Too early to consider, but should be a star.

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Conroy on 14 Jun 2012 - 10:20pm #

Jimmy Clausen was one of the five best players in the country in 2009; he was just on a team that was pretty much garbage otherwise.

 

Persa and Tolzien getting All Big Ten over Pryor in 2010 was a complete joke.  

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Jason Staff on 14 Jun 2012 - 10:37pm #

Eh, I'm not so sure about that. The Heisman Trophy can be a joke, but Clausen didn't even finish in the top 10 in voting for the 2009 season. In fact, his teammate, Golden Tate, finished with more votes than Clausen did.

Here's a quick list of five players that were better than Clausen in 2009: Mark Ingram, Ndamukong Suh, Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow and C.J. Spiller.

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Conroy on 14 Jun 2012 - 11:28pm #

Clausen threw one more touchdown and a third as many interceptios as McCoy did in 2009.  Notre Dame sucked and lost a bunch of games where they put up 30 points.

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petebuc52 on 17 Jun 2012 - 8:24am #

Thanks Conroy, I didnt have the energy to dispute the more misses than hits? I agree with your post. 

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JakeBuckeye on 14 Jun 2012 - 7:21pm #

Yeah, not sure how this is more misses than hits...

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ShadyBuckeye on 14 Jun 2012 - 7:36pm #

Made me wonder what the NFL drafts #1 picks look like in the same amount of time. Luck, Newton, Bradford, Stafford, Long, JaMarcus, Mario, Alex Smith, Manning, Palmer, Carr. I think its very comparable to the NCAA's "draft"-- 2 playes who were worthless: Carr and Russell and the rest are good solid guys with a couple great ones.

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GODOFWARBUCKEYE on 14 Jun 2012 - 8:07pm #

He made a wise choice clemson sends d-ends to the nfl in packs 10 straight years I believe..

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Steve Earle Bru... on 14 Jun 2012 - 8:11pm #

The only real busts on that list are Williams and Brown. Brown completely flamed out, but Williams was at least a decent player. Everyone else is either a program all-timer (VY, TP whether we want to admit it or not, Harvin, Peterson) or someone who definitely left their mark on the program (Sims, Clausen).

Now, in terms of NFL results, that list is brutal. Two starters on that list, both for the Viqueens.  

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FROMTHE18 on 15 Jun 2012 - 9:06am #

Only miss there is Bryce Brown from what I see...Derrick Williams was awesome at Penn State and was a thorn for OSU in 2005

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RedStorm45 on 15 Jun 2012 - 12:42pm #

They might be referring to NFL careers...outside of Harvin and Peterson (both on the same team??), none of these #1 recruits have made a big NFL impact.

Pryor was a 2 year starter? More like 2.75 year starter.

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TheHumbleBuckeye on 16 Jun 2012 - 11:36am #

If anything, this should tell us what a crap-shoot recruiting is, and why perhaps we shouldn't care so much about it. I'm all for evaluating recruiting classes and stuff like that, but I honestly don't care whether or not Alex Anzalone wanted to stop in Columbus on his way back from South Bend (and no, Columbus is not on the way... look at a map... it adds about two hours to the trip back to Reading, PA... maybe more when you consider that I-76 is currently a shithole) and what this means if he doesn't stop in Cbus and ZOMG did you see what some supposed insider tweeted?

This is not a knock on the 11W staff. they do a tremendous job, and they're just playing to their market.

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Conroy on 16 Jun 2012 - 12:35pm #

Recruiting isn't a crap shoot.  The teams that recruit the best are almost always the best teams.  Yes, there are exceptions, but more often than not poor coaching (FSU for most of the aughts, Notre Dame forever) is a big part of that equation.

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BrewstersMillions on 16 Jun 2012 - 12:49pm #

Well ya, but you are talking about the bigger picture-if you recruit 25 great players each season (44 if you are in the SEC) then you will fill out your depth chart and have a good team. On the individual basis though, you really don't know what you are getting. Its next to impossible to really guess how each and every player will do against heightened competition. There's no way of knowing how each and every kid will turn out so you end up subscribing to the "Throw 100 rocks in the air and hope 30 hit you in the head" theory.

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