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I'd hate to see anything bad happen to the man's practice, but some of those are pretty clever.
Who are these clowns which are sent into such a tizzy about a 16 year old's de-comittment, they log onto the internet and try to hurt the reputation of his doctor father?
I am so sick and tired of Ohio State fans who some how believe OSU is an infallible institution which is above any sort of critique. I know most of these people couldn't have graduated from Ohio State because they obviously lack any shred of critical thinking.
*realizes I'm in the 21st century*
While it's entirely possible to graduate from Ohio State without being able to harness any mote of critical thought, I hope these people realize what embarrassment they're bringing upon a university which they claim to be their lifeblood.
Get a freaking life, clowns. I'm sure you'd be 100% content with a pedophile being given access to your underage son during a recruiting trip in which a college is supposed to be monitoring their well-being. Unbelievable.
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I agree with your frustration and anger with OSU fans for this and I share many of your thoughts, but your last paragraph is not accurate. I don't think you can say that a pedophile was 'given access' to their underage son whose 'well being' was supposed to be monitored during the visit.
The picture was taken in a public place, the Twitter creep guy was there and the recruits were there. Do you know every time that you walk into a public place if there are convicted child sex offenders present? Should Ohio State have run background checks on all 81,000 fans present at the Spring Game?
Also, this was an unofficial visit for Anzalone. Unofficial visits are not monitored in the same way that official visits are, and thus when the football related activities are over, from what I understand, the kids are on their own. If his parents did not accompany him on the trip, which it seems they did not, then was Urban Meyer supposed to babysit for the rest of his time on campus? From what I have read, after the Spring Game Anzalone hung out with current players and other recruits. While I can see why Anzalone's dad reacted the way he did, this is an unfortunate and creepy situation, I don't see how you can say Ohio State is to blame for 'letting this happen'.
Yes, but if that picture was the only time Eric Waugh got within 100 yards of our recruits, I wouldn't care.
The problem is that, if you go off his pictures alone, this man has been around numerous players. People like Mark Pantoni were even following him on Twitter, as were other players. (Some even came to his offense when his creepiness was outted by the Twitsphere.) He was doing this all in a public forum which should be watched by the compliance department like hawks. It's not hard.
It took me 2 minutes of reviewing his timeline and his pictures to determine something was amiss. It's the job of the compliance department to keep these people away from our players. If people like Ramzy and Luke wouldn't have handed this to compliance, how many more underage recruits would this creep have been able to weasel around to?
Obviously, Ohio State didn't "pair" a recruit with a sex offender and they shut it down as soon as it came to their attention; but they do have some blame for allowing this man to get this close to the program in the first place. The compliance department better not still be relying on citizen's reports out here, because the next deviant might be a little more crafty.
I agree that when I saw all of his posts prior to all of the ish hitting the fan I thought something was amiss. However there is a big leap from thinking something is amiss to thinking a dude is a pedophile. The compliance office does not have time to run background checks on every fan that tweets, follows, or is followed by a few players.
Here is a man who works at a place like BW3's. Somewhere where alcohol or free food could be dispensed quite easily, which I believe would be an NCAA violation.
That, coupled with his Twitpics (again, all of this was public information) should have been enough for someone to run numbers on him.
There are more people like Eric Waugh, and while most of them aren't pedophiles, they're certainly the ones who will grease the wheels on NCAA violations. Is it not the job of OSU compliance to keep people like this away from our "student-athletes"?
Not that it matters, but I am not so sure the guy works at BW3, I think he just played their little trivia game there a lot. But maybe he did. If he is a registered sex offender, I assume it is quite difficult to find a job.
You are entitled to your opinion on this, but I think the problem is that much of what he was doing on twitter, the motivational quotes and whatnot, was viewed as harmless. Thats why Pantoni and others followed him and retweeted stuff. I'm not defending the guy, but I can see how someone might say, hey that guy just loves his Buckeyes. But the volume of his tweeting was insane. And yes, the pictures are a creepy, yes, but most of them are of him with current players, at games or spring games, at times when players are made available to fans. He was probably viewed as nothing more than a super-fan.
I do agree that twitter presents an interesting challenge for compliance, and could more have been done, perhaps, and I would certainly think twitter will be something they will lock down on more in the future.
Damn straight. I want compliance to run criminal background checks on every person that buys a spring game ticket and a member of the staff to follow each kid that visits, official or unofficial. Every person that requests a picture or hand shake of a potential student athlete needs to "have their numbers run" before permission is given. OSU compliance needs to get off their ass and get to work. Great idea!
F'ing finger pointers...Always somebody elses fault and not your own. (Speaking of Mr. Anzalone) My seventeen year old isn't traveling to another state, in a college atmosphere without me being present. Even then, would I know that the person my son in his minor celebrity status is taking pictures with is a sicko? So let me exchange the pleasantries of pointing the finger.
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I seriously wonder if we do have the worst damn fans in the land. It really seems like it A LOT of the time.
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There are ridiculous fans in every fanbase, but it does bother me that fans do this in the name of my alma mater.
Ohio State has its fair share of buffoons, but we will never, ever rival Penn State.
I would argue that we aren't the worst, but definitely top 5.
This is why we have one of the least liked fanbases in the country. I am embarassed by these idiots.
Those reviews are pretty clever. The thing that stands out to me, though, is this lame attempt by Penn St fans and the BSD to suck up to Anzalone by sounding like they are above anything like that. I don't think it's been long enough for any Penn St. fan to look down on OSU for ANYTHING that we do...
That is takiing it WAY to far. Why would this kid ever consider OSU after fans go after his family's livelihood. Doesn't reflect well at on on Buckey Nation.
With a fan base the size of Ohio State's, you're going to get the entire spectrum of humanity. The most asshole-ish people, unfortunately, are usually the loudest and most visible - which is how you notice the loudest, drunkest idiot in your section at the Horseshoe. I often cringe at the antics of some Buckeye fans, but I believe the majority to be fairly well-adjusted and positive. I think people are taking recruiting way too seriously in recent years. When I was younger, the only recruits I really knew about before they were Buckeyes were Chris Spielman, because of the Wheaties box, and Jeff Ulenhake, because he went to one of our rival high schools, Newark Catholic.
It makes it pretty difficult to make an argument that OSU fans are unjustly hated.
The worst part for me is these absent minded fans think they are doing a service, and are no doubt proud of what they've done. Kind of like Cousin Eddie in Christmas Vacation.
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
Anzalone received a whole lot of hate from Penn State nation after he committed to Ohio State, but he is still considering them. There's no way that this conduct helps us, but i don't think it's as damaging as some think.
It's petty, but this isn't going to damage the man's livelihood. Putting aside from the question of whether anyone actually uses this site when searching for a doctor, you know that the website can just remove the ratings.
I would hope that when choosing a pediatrician, people would take more than anonymous internet ratings into account. As we are finding out more and more each day, what is printed in the internet is anything but gospel and, therefore, should be taken with a grain of salt. I see more harm in the good doctor's reputation by taking his comments to the media then by what some rabid and possibly short-sighted fans add to his ratings on an independent internet website.
"When I look in the mirror, I want to take a swing at me."
Wayne Woodrow Hayes
I could care less about the Anzalones at this point. Moving on...
Have fun in Gainesville, and best of luck.
My favorite are the comments from PSU fans at the bottom. The people in our fan base who wrote those reviews are idiots, but seeing PSU fans talk about how terrible we are is just laughable. Worst. Fanbase. Ever.
These fans are in all fan bases but today these people make me embarassed to be an Ohio State fan
I do have to say that if this weren't such a serious situation I would find some of those pretty funny...
Also, not saying what those people did in those reviews for Dr. Anzalone isn't wrong or embarrassing, just saying that for PSU fans to call out anyone is ridiculous.
Idk about anyone else, but I will NEVER be ashamed to be an OSU fan...
not ashamed...embarassed by these fans' actions
Me too. Absolutely embarassing. The title of this Buckshot is very appropriate right now.
Clever or not, its plain ridiculous. Thought we as a fanbase were better than this. First the twitter bashing of alex. Now trying to ruin his fathers good name as a doctor? I'm well aware that the lot of us here aren't the type to resort to such juvenile tactics. I know every fan base has these kind of idiots. Just never thought we had any who would stoop to this level.
Isn't it possible the negative reviews of his practice were actually posted by people posing as OSU fans. That would be a smart albeit underhanded way to exploit the situation.
Sure, it's possible, but we'll never know for sure...
That was my thought too. I'd be willing to be there's a mix of OSU "fan" dunderheads as well as others (looking at you Pennsyl-tucky) piling on to exacerbate the issue in an attempt to paint the entire fanbase in a negative light.
This guy made national headlines by dragging the name of the biggest football program in the country through homophobic mud for no reason. If anything, Ohio State and its football team is a victim here by that creeper, not a perpetrator, and this medical doctor showed absolutely no regard for that.
I'm not saying message board bombing his medical practice is right or admirable, but what did you expect?
And Penn State fans have no room to talk. They rioted ON CAMPUS because Joe Paterno was fired. They flipped over a news van. Was anyone expelled for that? They weren't rioting because they were p*ssed AT Joe Paterno for harboring and enabling someone he knew sexually abused children, they were pissed he got fired for it. They have been endlessly defiant over the protection of Joe Paterno's name and legacy. It's sick.
My goodness. You all are the consummate over-reactors. As a son of a surgeon and a brother of 2 others, I can tell you that these things mean nothing. If I were to go on amazon.com and say that Phil knight makes shitty shoes, do you really think anybody would be deterred from buying Nike? Lighten the hell up. I really got a kick out of the reviews. Most of them were obviously football references. And, to top it all off, papa anzalone seems like a giant douche, anyway. Moving on.
Wrong reaction, in my opinion.
Lighten the hell up?
Seems like you're over-reacting to the over-reactors who over-reacted to a kid's over-reaction.
How do we know these aren't just shills....posing as OSU fans to try to make OSU look bad? Not saying that's what they are - but, there's a chance. I wouldn't put anything past delusional PSU fans.
Hodge is definitely over-reacting. Damn, now I am over-reacting. I have to lighten up.
I won't hold Ohio State to lower standards because I'm a fan and an alum but in this case, DJ I don't know what more they should have done in the time in which they had to work. Again, I may have the timeline skewed however so if anyone can shed some light on it, I'd appriciate it. How much time elapsed between creeper's twitter blasting, the spring game, and OSU's ultimate "GTFO Creeper" statement?
I thought Ohio State found out this guy was a sex offender after the spring game. And these pictures were from the spring game, weren't they? I guess I'm not sure if there was something this dude was doing before the spring game, when he got close to the team\recruits that should have tipped people off sooner? Because I can't hold OSU accountable for anythng they did once they found out about this guy because they hit the creepy fly with a large sledgehammer. If there was something prior to the Spring Game\Text blasts on April 30th, then I will stand corrected but for now, I have to think OSU crushed this thing as soon as they knew what was what. They had no way of knowing anything about this one fan prior to the Spring game, and as such had to be reactive afterwards, not proactive....or am I missing something prior to 4\21\12?
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
"Who are these clowns which are sent into such a tizzy about a 16 year old's de-comittment, they log onto the internet and try to hurt the reputation of his doctor father?"
I understand what you're saying. And, in no way am I defending whoever wrote these critical faux reviews, (some of them are funny), and I wouldn't be surprised if they were written by shills, trying to make OSU bad. But, you say "who are these clowns....try to hurt the reputation of his doctor father?" ----- well, that's pretty ironic ---- because I know of one clown who was likely intentionally trying to hurt the reputation of Ohio State, Urban Meyer & his coaching staff, (sans the retroactive face-saving attempt): Dr. Sal Anzalone.
But let's (OSU fans as a whole) be the bigger man in all of this. A few numbnuts have made us look childish.
And sadly, that won't ever change. I know people I went to school with who are still proud for their parts in the 'riots' from 2000 and on.
Yeah, we have Walmart Buckeyes too. They figured out teh interwebs and that's bad news. It sucks but what are you going to do?
EDIT: Why I am not surprised this ass-hattery originated on the Buckeye Scout board? Scroll about half-way down...
"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here."
Tempting as it is to say that Dr. Anzalone deserves a lesson in the harm that can come from someone's baseless criticism...I can't endorse this.
Damn, it sucks being the bigger person.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Obviously, this is disappointing on a few levels. It's childish for fans to hammer a guy's reviews because of (admittedly dumb) statements he made when the Waugh news first broke. It's no different for Michigan fans that hammered the reviews of Michael Rosenberg's War as They Knew It on Amazon after the Stretchgate story broke in Ann Arbor. It's childish and embarrassing to the fanbase at large.
While it's frustrating and dumb beyond belief, Ohio State has the largest college football fanbase on the planet and naturally, it will have more assholes than other fanbases (although Alabama is giving us a run for our money).
Finally, I'm disappointed that SBN's largest NCAA site front-paged this low-hanging fruit. We could have had months of front page lunatic fan material during the Sandusky ordeal last fall, but we passed. I'm still glad we did.
Gotta disagree with you there--'Bama takes the cake, and teabags it for good measure.
Ha. I still think we may have more assholes just because we're that much larger of a fanbase. However, their assholes are bigger assholes. No doubt about that.
In my humble opinion it's not a worthwhile effort to keep score as to who is the bigger asshole, or who has a greater quantity of assholes... the point is: don't be an asshole. The rest of it will sort itself out.
Jason, you have a point, but May-July is Low Hanging Fruit Season.
a couple things...
1) penn state fans/bloggers/whoever are still about 157 years away from being able to legitimately cast aspersions on another team's fanbase. not surprised, but seriously BSD commenters?
2) DJ already captured this sentiment, but as an alum of what I believe is the most special school in the world here's my take:
not all of the alumni are incapable of irrationality and losing perpespective re: ohio state athletics. and not every non-alum fan is the type of person who invests way too much of his/her emotions in the decision making processes of high school kids (and is willing to go to great lengths to embarrass the instituion they purport to love in order to exact vengence). but there are far fewer of the former than of the latter.
i'm tired of adults with no perspective who have little actually invested in ohio state continually taking a collective dump on the university's reputation. i don't know what the answer is outside of sucking at every major sport for a couple decades. sometimes i wonder if that wouldn't be worth it.
swing hard in case you hit it.
I've been considering posting this on FB for the past week...
"It has taken many students to build up the reputation of our university, but it only takes one idiot fan to tear it down."
The best thing about us (OSU fans) is also the worst thing about us; our passion. It's what causes us to show up in droves (80K strong) for a glorified spring scrimmage, routinely top 105K in the regular season, and is the reason OH-IO can be heard round the world (I got it from 3 different groups of people in London a couple of years ago). It's that same passion that also causes people to be so invested that they lose perspective and view anything that reflects negatively on OSU as a personal attack. Passion and a lack of perspective is always a recipe for boneheaded and regrettable behavior (like this) that makes those of us with a bit more perspective cringe. But Jason is right, we do have a lot of these types of fans. That's why I ten to agree any time people generalize that OSU fans are aholes. Because that reputation is earned from the vocal minority we see here.
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