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Cleveland Scene wonders why Ohio State fans are "such myopic assholes". Author manages to write 3,000 words on the topic without talking to a single Buckeye fan. (clevescene.com)

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Denny's picture
Denny on 15 Mar 2012 - 12:35pm #

When your initial citations are culled from sports talk radio callers, you're not helping your troll cause any.

Taquitos.

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Pam on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:02pm #

I am calling shenanigans on one of those callers who said we "bleed red"  No true Buckeye fan ever says anything but scarlett.

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DJ on 16 Mar 2012 - 12:21pm #
Lol my thinking exactly. I read it half way thru tho, so chalk up the W for that guy.

If nothing else: Marionaire.

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Go Buckeyes14 on 15 Mar 2012 - 1:01pm #

People like this piss me off to no end. Ignorance.

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Rfahncke on 15 Mar 2012 - 1:10pm #

He's right about this one thing...

"they wear jerseys....it's not something adults do."

Seriously, if youre older than 30 wearing an 18 year olds jersey, that's just weird! If it's your brother, son or family member I get it. If not, get a tshirt, polo or zip-up jacket. Dress your age, like a coach or fan, not a player. You're too old for that!

Other than that....a lot of "iinsert crazy fan here" hoopla that could relate to any school.

"Have you earned your buckeye today?"

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Denny on 15 Mar 2012 - 1:12pm #

That was actually a quote from Spencer Hall re: wearing jerseys, but it's still quite accurate.

Taquitos.

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Jason Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 1:31pm #

I like Spencer, but he comes from a culture where adults wear ties to football games. Is that something adults do?

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Sgt. Elias Mod on 15 Mar 2012 - 2:59pm #

Some also wear jorts.

"You have to slay the selfish beast inside of you and be your brother's keeper" - Chris Spielman, on being a great teammate 

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Denny on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:03pm #

Totally depends on the tie, I suppose.

Either way it's far better than wearing a jersey that's three sizes too big and basically made of plastic.

Taquitos.

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Jason Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:23pm #

I don't own any jerseys because they're not my style, but I also don't understand the scorn directed towards people that wear them.

Ever been to an NFL game? An EPL match?

You will never convince me that wearing a tie to a football game is better than wearing a jersey.

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William on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:26pm #

Totally LOVE that you used a picture of the best EPL team, Arsenal FC.

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DJ on 16 Mar 2012 - 12:23pm #
Arsenal is shit. Wait til RVP takes real or barca's cash this summer.

If nothing else: Marionaire.

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William on 16 Mar 2012 - 3:21pm #

Haha not gonna happen. The guy loves it in London. Wenger will do just about anything to keep him. Also with the board looking to jettison Arshavin and others, while trying to sign someone like Podolski or Hazard, Arsenal will be back to their glory days soon. Who do you support?

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Denny on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:56pm #

Replica football jerseys are slovenly saggy pieces of garbage with painted on non-breatheable stripes. Those soccer jerseys in that picture there? Those actually fit well, and can actually be worn to work out in and whatnot.

Never been to an NFL game, and I probably never will be. I gave up on the loud, fat, obnoxious crowd a while ago. I'd love to go to an EPL game, but would have to 'travel' to get over to one.

Taquitos.

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William on 15 Mar 2012 - 4:06pm #

Agreed. I have tons of EPL jerseys, benefit of having a military father that was overseas a lot, and their jerseys look much better than the super baggy jerseys we have here. Also would kill to see an Arsenal-Man United game or an Arsenal-Tottenham game.

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BucksfanXC on 15 Mar 2012 - 4:13pm #

On lists of top conditioned athletes, European soccer players always crack the top 5, along with distance runners and moto-cross racers. The jerseys are designed to fit snuggly to fit players. Football jerseys are designed to cover not only several pounds of pads, but often several pounds on the players as well. The fans of football that are carrying a little extra padding take advantage of this to hide the spare tire. I feel this is part of the problem too. Americans wear the clothes that encourage having extra weight, where as European jerseys encourage slimming down.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

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Denny on 15 Mar 2012 - 5:29pm #

Also: the actual jerseys worn by real, actual football players on the field are much tighter-fitting, don't actually have long-ass sleeves, and are made of decent material. Replicas are none of these.

Except women's replicas. Those are the best.

Taquitos.

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OldColumbusTown on 15 Mar 2012 - 4:14pm #

I've been to a Liverpool-Tottenham match... unbelievable atmosphere.  If anyone is even remotely a fan of soccer and gets a chance to attend an EPL game, DO IT!

"What we do in life echoes in eternity"

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William on 15 Mar 2012 - 4:17pm #

That's awesome. Sadly Liverpool's team has turned into a collection of thugs and white trash.

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Buckeyebrowny919 on 15 Mar 2012 - 6:28pm #

never walk alone..

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2008/10/keeley_liverpool_chel...

"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer

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Buckeyebrowny919 on 15 Mar 2012 - 6:29pm #

....crappy internet

"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer

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M Man on 15 Mar 2012 - 6:56pm #

White Hart Lane!  Go Spurs!

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William on 16 Mar 2012 - 12:35am #

You're one of the best commenters here M Man, but a Michigan fan AND a Tottenham Hotspur fan? That's just too much haha. 

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buckeyechad on 15 Mar 2012 - 2:46pm #

I'll be wearing osu jerseys when I'm 70, like about some unwritten rule random people have about the subject.

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NC_Buckeye on 15 Mar 2012 - 6:50pm #

^^^^ This. Jerseys are a way for me to honor past players.

And as far as Spencer Hall. Fuck him. I read the article on EDSBS where he provided a journal of going to a Buckeye game in Columbus. (Sorry, can't find a to link to it.) But I remember him marveling at the scores of fans wearing jerseys as if it were the uniform of our fandom. Now we see how he really feels about it.

I know Jason and staff like Spencer but c'mon... the guy has nothing but scorn for us. Really.

Again I say, fuck him.

#fistpumpgobuckeyes

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Johnny Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 7:01pm #

spencer is a good guy and a terrific writer and has been a guest on the dubcast several times, so i don't think he actually has scorn for OSU fans. i do think that he has a stereotype OSU fan in mind when he makes jokes about us (which is also kind of hilariously inaccurate, sometimes i think the dude got drunk and ended up in oxford by accident), which usually i couldn't care less about. the problem in this case is that he's being semi-ironic, but the person using his words is being 100% serious.

congrats to him getting mentioned in the same breath as bruce hooley and bleacher report in terms of insight into the OSU fan psyche, though

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buckeyedude on 16 Mar 2012 - 7:19am #

Great. I can't wear jersey's? I can't wear jorts or mullets? ...and the suggested attire for a 47 year old attending a Buckeye game? Golf shirt or suit and tie? 

F*%k that!

Now, I'm not about to paint my face or anything, but a suit to a Buckeye game? Hell, I don't even wear a tie to church! 

"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license." 

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Poison nuts on 17 Mar 2012 - 8:10pm #

I got my Archie Griffin jersey & I love that thing. Just sayin.

The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.

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hodge on 15 Mar 2012 - 1:13pm #

"According to the Bleacher Report's list of the 25 rudest fan bases in all of college athletics, Ohio State came in fourth — the highest ranking of any Big Ten program"

...Seriously?  You're quoting the Bleacher Report? That's your ace-in-the-hole?

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SouthBayBuckeye on 15 Mar 2012 - 1:53pm #

I'm sure the person that wrote thei article is a fan  opf their slideshow work.

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

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Maestro on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:28pm #

No kidding.  Do their "authors" even write?

vacuuming sucks

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Poison nuts on 17 Mar 2012 - 8:21pm #

^^^right^^^

The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.

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Doug Funnie on 15 Mar 2012 - 1:41pm #

I go to both Browns and Buckeye games each year.  Yes their are drunk a**holes at OSU games, but thier are just as many if not more, at Browns games.  This "reporter" is just trying to stir the pot, fans are crazy where ever you go.  The Browns have been bad for years, but that didn't stop them from throwing glass bottles at officials(the reason their is plastic beer bottles) or cheering when Tim Couch got injured and he cried in his press conference afterword, and don't forget about the fans in the dawg pound in the 80's, Art Modell death threats, burning LBJ's jersey, etc....The Browns like the Bucks have a long history and passionate fan base, and with passionate fans, comes crazy sob's, but that doesn't mean all/majority OSU or Browns fans are obnoxious.  I just wish this "reporter" realized this happens in ALL sports cities, even in his "hometown"

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Baroclinicity on 15 Mar 2012 - 2:08pm #

Aaron Goldhammer is about as anti-Ohio State as you can get.  Some people in the media use polarization as a way to earn notoriety.  It doesn't happen in sports media circles only... I have to deal with this on a daily basis. 

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Nick Buckeye on 15 Mar 2012 - 6:11pm #

Colin Cowherd and Skip Bayless ask you to kindly shut the hell up.

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Pam on 15 Mar 2012 - 2:59pm #

“An NCAA probe has resulted in a two-year ban from competitive play”

Did you guys know this??

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Alhan on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:03pm #

Hehe, you beat me to it Pam. :)

You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy

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Maestro on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:56pm #

Just scrimmages I guess.  Damn that's some good pay for those coaches to just have scrimmages to play in.  Why would anyone publish this absolutely ignorant crap?

vacuuming sucks

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Alhan on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:00pm #

"An NCAA probe has resulted in a two-year ban from competitive play. Sadly, college basketball's governing body has no authority to rein in Ohio State fans in any similar fashion."

-First off, two-year ban?  Is there a second bowl-ban no one else knows of?

-Secondly, how exactly did the bowl ban rein in the Ohio State fans?  Seems like it just gave us something else to get worked up about according to the rest of his article.

BTW: commentor "BrianWilson" definately seemed to have an axe to grind against Columbus in general.

You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy

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Pam on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:03pm #

He didn't say bowl ban, he said ban from competitive play which is every game.

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jedkat on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:50pm #

the first year was actually prorated to the 2011 season.

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~Zach Boren

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dancorona5 on 15 Mar 2012 - 3:31pm #

I guess i can understand if he was writing an article bashing Bengals fans, since the cities are rivals when they play each other. but to bash buckeye alum, fans, and even the city of Columbus is just ignorant. Growing up in Akron, i was a huge cleveland fan, then i went to school at ohio state ('09) and currently live in cincinnati.  since living here i have grown to support the cincinnati teams, but i still love my cleveland teams.  I even began to like Xavier and the bearcats, but dont get me wrong, im buckeye all the way. I guess i figured we were all secretly on the same team, Ohio.

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painterlad on 15 Mar 2012 - 4:38pm #

I didn't bother to read the article, which makes his editor and me even.

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thePhilipJFry on 16 Mar 2012 - 1:22pm #

That was really good man.  I'm still laughing while I write this.

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Johnny Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 4:39pm #

the article is dumb as hell, but i'm more disappointed that spencer decided to contribute to it

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Johnny Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 4:54pm #

like, i can't even make funny stereotypes about SEC fans because it stops being dumb mockery and ends up something like

"the ole miss fan woke up in his survivalist lean-to behind the abandoned piggly wiggly, bleary eyed from a long night of attempted date rape and cheap bourbon. gently kissing his framed picture of his sister, he put on a pair of feces-flaked overalls. inserting an ancient tape of faces of death into a worn VCR, he wrapped himself in the rebel flag and began furiously masturbating while thinking happy thoughts of emmett till"

i guess my point is that on a scale off assholelishness, calling another team names and wearing jerseys is about the weakest shit imaginable to make fun of, especially in light of how genuinely awful many SEC fans are on a fairly regular basis about legitimate things to think someone is awful for thinking/doing

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Johnny Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 4:57pm #

oh fyi southerners wearing ties and cocktail dresses to football games is an extension of an often pathetic need to extend a lost sense of exceptionalism and social and ethnic superiority to the lone relvant social medium that they have remaining hth

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Buckeye in Athens on 15 Mar 2012 - 7:05pm #

I understand your point, definitely. I will say that greek culture is just different in the south - most of the pictures you see of dressed up people at football games in the south are just frats and sororities. They just dress up for everything anyway. 

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Johnny Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 7:07pm #

i know, but i'd argue that that's part of it. it's all about prestige and power, and showing that you have it.

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Buckeye in Athens on 15 Mar 2012 - 8:56pm #

I think that's fair. I can't speak to midwestern greek culture, but I think that'd be an excellent case study to test the effects of southern exceptionalism.

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buckeyedude on 16 Mar 2012 - 7:34am #

I thought Johnny said "geek" culture? My bad.

"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license." 

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NC_Buckeye on 15 Mar 2012 - 7:22pm #

I've lived in the south since 1998. You've hit the nail on the head as far as it being an extension of "southern exceptionalism". I've been calling it the plantation mindset for many years now and it extends into virtually every aspect of their lives.

We're the uncouth hoard because we wear jerseys. They're the lords and ladies of the manor because they're in ties and dresses. Yeah... right.

#fistpumpgobuckeyes

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Johnny Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 5:02pm #

wearing jerseys to games owns because it forces an egalitarian social contract where everyone involved in the event is on equal social standing. i am 100% serious about this, and i'm not surprised some people from the south don't understand this concept on any level

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Jason Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 5:20pm #

Johnny's fired up. Carrying on conversations with himself!

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Johnny Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 5:22pm #

well i figure it's better than doing it in my bed at night as i stare angrily into space like usual

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741 on 16 Mar 2012 - 12:47am #

This is perhaps the most entertaining thread I've read on 11W in my several years of participating in this community.

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Johnny Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 5:05pm #

ALSO DIDN'T TYLER MOELLER GET ASSAULTED BY A DRUNK ASS FLORIDA FAN AND ALMOST DIED SIMPLY BECAUSE HE TOLD HIM THAT HE PLAYED FOR OSU???

look at all these posts. it's me. i'm mad. mad irl

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Buckeyebrowny919 on 15 Mar 2012 - 6:32pm #

i feel you, good sir ::sips beer::, i feel ya

"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer

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Jdadams01 on 15 Mar 2012 - 6:17pm #

Anyone who cites Bruce Hooley is irrelevant.

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M Man on 15 Mar 2012 - 7:03pm #

I like Spencer, but he comes from a culture where adults wear ties to football games. Is that something adults do?

Sorry, but I disagree.  I want to stick up for the guys who wear ties to football games:

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Johnny Staff on 15 Mar 2012 - 7:03pm #

yes, it's almost like they are in positions of authority, wielding influence over others and having a special place in terms of prestige among their peers. funny how that works

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J.Mo on 15 Mar 2012 - 7:44pm #

Who the hell cares? I think every major fan base have their assholes.... all the bad seeds are assholes who give the fans of the team a bad name and all the good ones (which is probably a majority of all fan bases) are overlooked because of the assholes.

Yeah Ohio State fans love wearing their football jerseys but they're doing so to express their fandom. Judging anyone by what they wear is moronic...especially at a football game. It's a damn football game, not a job interview. Wear some comfortable and root for your team.

I do appreciate the cocktail dresses... enjoyed the women when I attended the 2008 OSU-LSU National Championship (the game sucked).

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thePhilipJFry on 16 Mar 2012 - 1:26pm #

The Ohio State fanbase is a big tent, you can find anything you want in there.

also love the bender avatar.

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blazers34 on 15 Mar 2012 - 7:57pm #

lol on the jersey issue.  maybe you like it, maybe you dont.  no biggie.  kinda weird analyzing the way peole dress at a football game IMO

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Bucksfan on 15 Mar 2012 - 8:36pm #

I think Ohio State should stop selling jerseys altogether - it's profiting off the likeness of their players that aren't allowed to profit off of their likeness themselves.  I do own 2, however...from my days at OSU, of course.

I don't say THE.  I think it's pretentious and stupid, and it has no place anywhere.

I will say this...the Cincinnati Enquirer (printed version) covers UK, Louisville, UC, Xavier, Ohio State and Dayton sports.  The Dispatch covers Ohio State.  Period.  End of discussion.  If you want to follow Toledo, Akron, Cincy, Xavier or Dayton, or other Ohio school, you better have a computer.  And if you question it, you'll get cr*p from Ohio State fans, who will call you the *sshole for even caring about something else.  Or they'll even go so far as to say you're not REALLY from Ohio if you're not an OSU fan.

If you don't believe me, too bad, it has happened on this site!  To me!  An OSU alumnus!

If you take offense to Ohio State fans being myopic, a great portion of them are, and the fact that there are those who would turn on each other is pathetic.  As alumni, I hope we start conducting ourselves a little better out there.

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toledobuckeyefanjim on 15 Mar 2012 - 8:42pm #

Low-quality writing at its finest. Heck, you could have written this piece about any big-time college football program that's has a fanatic fan base like Ohio State's.

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Orlando Buckeye on 15 Mar 2012 - 9:34pm #

Here's a game. You say only a small portion of tOSU fans are douchey. Too bad, doesn't matter, all tOSU fans suck. But those same douchey fans are sports fans, therefore all sports fans suck. And by extension, all Americans, and all humans, and all living creatures suck. Everything sucks by extension. Lumping everything into one group makes judging so much easier.

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Paul on 15 Mar 2012 - 11:31pm #

THE Ohio State University has stupid obnoxious fans!

Sincerely,

"WE are PENNNNN SCHHHHTATE!"

There are winners and there are losers, and then there are "THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY"

FOOTBALL BUCKEYES!

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NC_Buckeye on 16 Mar 2012 - 12:11pm #

You should probably add:

"Now let's go lynch some incompetent BOT members." or "Gov Corbett planned all of this so he could defund State and make it a private unversity."

#fistpumpgobuckeyes

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acBuckeye on 16 Mar 2012 - 12:20pm #

I usually don't say "THE Ohio State....." but i can understand why the players do. Players need a certain amount of confidence. In some cases, they may also need a certain amount of cockiness, or dare i say it?? Moxie.

Also, its waaaaaay better than "Roll Damn Tide!" or "War Damn Eagle!"

Nothing wrong with wearing jerseys to games. People who are worried about other people wearing jerseys to games seem too caught up in other people wearing jerseys to games to actually pay attention to said games. **awaken from my sleep-deprived state, and become fully aware again** YOU MEAN THERE ARE ACTUALLY DUDES WHO CRITICIZE OTHER DUDES FROM THE SAME FANBASE ABOUT WHAT THEY WEAR TO GAMES?? That just seems...... very house-wife gossip-ish.

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hodge on 16 Mar 2012 - 1:28pm #

To be fair though, The Ohio State University is our official title.  "Ohio State," you could argue, is a nickname.  Same way "Penn State" goes by their truncated moniker, they're officially known as The Pennsylvania State University.

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NC_Buckeye on 16 Mar 2012 - 8:00pm #

I do say "THE Ohio State..." but with tongue-in-cheek braggadocio intended. The reactions I get down here are "precious". Lot's of facepalms and rolling of eyes.

So I encourage fellow Buckeyes to use our PROPER title if for no other reason than self-amusement. And especially if you're in the south... or Michigan.

#fistpumpgobuckeyes

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Buckeyeneer on 20 Mar 2012 - 1:43pm #

I love saying THEEEEEEEEE Ohio State University. It pisses so many people off. I am not a troll by nature, but I love that it gets so many riled up. Plus, I am humble in so many other aspects of my life, having a little swagger when it comes to my buckeyes is a good thing. We're good and we know it.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University

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DJ on 16 Mar 2012 - 12:37pm #
I have two villa jerseys, they're cool. I also own a Tim Couch banger I dare somebody to hate on.

If nothing else: Marionaire.

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William on 20 Mar 2012 - 2:21pm #

An Aston Villa fan? It must be hard cheering on constant mediocrity? 

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Buckeyeneer on 20 Mar 2012 - 1:46pm #

Anyone who has beef with those wearing jerseys to games really need to get a grip. I am a fan of a game. Wearing a jersey or a t-shirt or a suit and tie or turning myself into one of those attention-whoring superfans does not make me better or worse. I relate with the guy who said it was a house-wife like comment. It being bitchy about something that is not worth getting upset about. 

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University

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