Big 12 ADs Vote to Support a Plus-One

December 6, 2011 at 2:13p    by Jason Priestas    
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TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

"If conference leaders are smart, they'll design a plan that allows for the two semifinal games to be played on the home fields of the No. 1- and No. 2-seeded teams. If they wanted to appease the must-win-your-league crowd, they could require that a team must win its conference to host a semifinal. Home-site semifinals would eliminate concerns about fan bases traveling twice -- a non-starter -- and would help reinforce the importance of the regular season. Teams would go into the final week fighting for a home game in a sport where home-field advantage means a lot. Just imagine an LSU-Stanford semifinal at Tiger Stadium or an Alabama-Oklahoma State semifinal in Stillwater (using the must-win-conference rule). Also, to remove the negative consequences of a semifinal loss, the two losing teams would be placed into premium bowls, where they could take a well-deserved victory lap for a great season. This would appease bowl executives, who for some unknown reason strike fear into the hearts of the people who run the sport."

Kind of like what I've been saying. Keeps it exclusive enough that every game matters (ACC and Big East champs would have not been selected under that system this year... not ranked high enough), but inclusive enough that a TCU 2010 or Utah 2008 wouldn't be left out, and an Alabama, Stanford, and Boise would have no argument because they didn't win their conference. Essentially, the playoff starts with yoru conference, but you better have at least one quality out of conference win to boost your ranking. Under this scenario - had VaTech won on Saturday - they'd be in and Wisconsin would be out. Viewerships for the Pac-12, B1G, and ACC title games would have been way up... probably even the C-USA title game, because if Houston had won, they would have been one of the four highest ranked conference champs.

Nappy's picture

This is the perfect scenario IMO

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Doc's picture

Sounds good, make it so.

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

When would they play these semifinals?  A week after the conference championships?  Hell, even give them a bye week and play it two weeks later.  It wouldn't affect bowl season at all.

I like that btw.  We have to be careful with playoffs, and keep them small enough so that it's hard as hell to get in, the regular season maintains its current level of importance, and it behooves teams to schedule a tough OOC game or two. 

Imagine playing a home semifinal game in the 'Shoe in December, when it's like 20 degrees and snowing.  That would be nuts. 

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TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Alabama at Ohio State... in the snow. I would love it sooooooo much.

Under my plan, I'd play them this weekend after Army-Navy. It provides a nice undercard of sorts and a tribute to the tradition of college football. Army-Navy at 12:30, semifinal game 1 at 4:30, semifinal game 2 at 8:30.

cplunk's picture

I'm not a big playoff fan, but I love that idea. Army-Navy would be a great stage setter.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

I know Army-Navy is traditionally played in Philly, but perhaps they could move it to the site of the 8:30 semifinal game and allow fans of the big programs to get to take in the pagaentry of Army-Navy earlier in the day. It's truly a cool experience. My best friend went to West Point, and he LOVES this idea. The cadets looked forward to their weekend in Philly all year, and they would probably love the opportunity not only to attend their traditional Army-Navy game, but also a mega-time College Football game somewhere else like Columbus, Tuscaloosa, or Lincoln. They just like to get away from campus whenever they can.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

The way you would preserve the importance of the regular season within a playoff system is to allow only conference champions to compete (or, if you ever went to a larger playoff a la the smaller school NCAA divisions, allow only conference champions to host home playoff games). I think you'd actually get better OOC games if a playoff system existed, because currently teams have to expect that even one loss will kill their national championship chances in most seasons. In a playoff system where every conference champion got a chance at season's end, that wouldn't be an issue anymore.

If college football ever went to an official playoff run by the NCAA, the Big Ten commissioner will have to insist that his region of the country be treated fairly in the process. You can't fold a playoff system into a bowl system where all the major games are played in the Sunbelt.

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TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

"I think you'd actually get better OOC games if a playoff system existed"

Absolutely. Right now, the SEC schools have grown very adept at scheduling "computer boosters" into their schedule, i.e. non-conference games that are good, but manageable like Alabama scheduling Penn State,  and Clemson and VaTech at a neutral site (which actually became Bama's toughest game all year in 2009... VaTech was leading into the fourth quarter and it was still a three point game with 7 minutes left). Arkansas scheduled A&M the past three years. Georgia keeps GaTech on their schedule and (mistakenly) scheduled Boise (for what they thought would be a computer boosting victory). Florida keeps FSU on their schedule, but watch out because I think they'll dump that game if FSU keeps beating Florida (it's only a 53 year old rivalry, not a ton of history there compared to other rivalries). Auburn has scheduled WVU, Clemson, and Kansas State in the past several years.

You get what I'm saying. These schools aren't going out of their way to schedule home and home series with Texas, USC, and Oklahoma (like Ohio State has). They also love their little neutral field matchups. Notice as soon as Michigan started sucking, Alabama willingly schedules them at a "neutral" site.

But this would change if there were a plus-1 of the four highest ranked conference champs. You would see Alabama go to Austin and Los Angeles, maybe even Eugene. In 2006, you'd have seen Alabama schedule Ohio State for a 2010-2011 home and home instead of Penn State. As it is now, I would be shocked to ever see Alabama in Columbus, Austin, LA, Eugene, etc, etc. They like "good games" that are also "manageable". That's why they're playing Michigan next year and Virginia Tech in 2013, both at neutral sites.

 

Nerkbuckeye's picture

I remember a bowl game a few years ago where it was in the 50's in Florida (think it was Wisc in the bowl) and the southern team players were hudled around heaters on the sidelines.

Hell yes, I'd like to get Florida, LSU or Alabama in the shoe in mid December. Half of them won't want to leave their hotel room.

Nappy's picture

Pretty sure it was Miami vs. Wisc if memory serves correct.  I remember the Wisc. players were acting like it was summer and the Miami players were wearing long sleeves. 

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TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

It was Wisconsin vs. Miami in the Champs Sports Bowl after the 2009 season. It was down to 40 degrees by halftime. The field was drenched from a cold rain from the previous days, and all the color commentator kept on talking about how the terrible conditions favored a Big Ten team such as Wisconsin. And now they know why Big Ten teams have to build around a power running game and perhaps sacrifice just a little speed in the process, whereas the southern teams can build their offenses around pure speed by recruiting track stars and running pure spread formations. That game was replayed on Big Ten Network yesterday too.

Doc's picture

This all makes a lot of sense.  Hence, the reason it will never happen.  It is fun to think about the SEC playing in CBus or Madison in December.  Hello!

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buckeyedude's picture

It's funny how no conference is for anything resembling a playoff until one of their teams gets screwed. At some point, it's going to happen to a B1G team, and then maybe Delany will get off his high horse.

 
 

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

What's funny is that under my plan of a plus-1 with the four highest ranked conference champs, Wisconsin would have been in this year... and last year.... and Penn State would have been in in 2005, and Michigan in 2003, and Illinois in 2001. Overall, the B1G would have been represented in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2010, and 2011. Eight of the BCS's fourteen years.