Tom Herman Staying at Ohio State

January 11, 2014 at 11:24a    by Ramzy Nasrallah    
44 Comments
I'm going to score points on YOU

Braxton's back for another year. Now his mentor is too.

On Thursday, quarterback Braxton Miller made it official — he would return for his senior season at Ohio State. Offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach Tom Herman didn't make a similar announcement, but Bobby Burton of 24/7 Sports, a leading voice in coaching searches, is reporting Herman is staying put with the Buckeyes.

Texas appears to have made a run at the man who makes the Buckeye offense go. New UT head coach Charlie Strong - also a branch of the Urban Meyer coaching tree - knows proven commodities: Ohio State finished 3rd among FBS teams in total offense. Back in 2011 the Buckeyes finished 108th.

In related news, look for Herman's paycheck to get a nice bump very shortly. At the Orange Bowl, Gene Smith said million dollar coordinators would not be coming soon to the Buckeyes.

Ohio State already lost one assistant coach this week after defensive line coach Mike Vrabel bolted for the NFL's Houston Texans to be Bill O'Brien's linebackers coach. The loss of Herman would have been even more severe. He, along with Meyer, is the brains behind the Buckeyes' record-setting offense and Miller's production.

Source: @BobbyBurton247

44 Comments

Comments

cplunk's picture

Glad he stayed. I think highly of Herman, although I think his play calling wasn't up to snuff late in the year. He lost all the short passing game for some reason. I have confidence in him though and am glad he'll be back. 

Woodshed's picture

People won't like to hear this, but I am not sure that the absence of short passing is due to the OC. imo he is aware of the limitations of his starters....

razrback16's picture

Agree. Braxton's accuracy suffered the last few games of the season, and our receiving corps was not a strength in 2013, IMO. I don't understand some of the calls to run Braxton instead of Hyde, but those may have been Meyer's calls. Bottom line, I like Herman a lot, and I'm glad he's sticking around.

jaxbuckeye's picture

I tend to agree with this statement.  We all remember Meyer lamenting that Philly needs to break a tackle.  Well you can say that about all of them.  We get the ball out quickly but it isn't going to go for more than 7 or 8 yards.  Exactly what a defense wants you to do.  More plays more chances for mistakes. 
Seriously, was anyone anxious to get to get the ball into the hands of Brown, Smith, Spencer, or Fields to make a play?  Dontre, on the other hand...

IGotAWoody's picture

I was anxious to get the ball into the hands of Brown, SMith, Spencer, Fields and Wilson! OC's would and should take 7-8 yds on short passes all day. They're short, so they're easy completions. And they build a QB's confidence so you can mix in intermediate with the occasional shot down field. I don't think Herman stopped calling the short passes because of anything the defenses were taking away, I think he got over reliant on other things.
I think we could of dinked and dunked all over Clemson, but for some reason, chose not to. Almost every time we threw the ball in that game, we had Braxton dropping back 5 steps, with receivers running slow-developing routes.
In no way do I, or others saying the same thing, think that we know better than the coaches. It's just so puzzling to think that we got away from doing things that worked so well at mid-season.

 - License to kill gophers (wolverines, badgers, etc) by the government of the United Nations

lippertini's picture

I also most certainly would have been VERY happy to keep mixing in screens and other short passes to Philly.  He was much improved in YAC and showed he could even break one every now and then.

DefendYoungstown's picture

@wood very good point, he must be playing to the strengths of his players.  Still baffles me thought, you would think those would be the easier passes to complete.  What if we found out Brax wasn't 20/20 and all he needed was glasses...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

seafus26's picture

Agree. Notably his RB playing QB

Go Bucks and michigan STILL SUCKS!

O-H I-O's picture

Glad to hear that Tom Herman will be back. Hopefully, he'll be able to learn from his play calling history. It seems like he can out-think himself during some quarters.
Wish he stuck with Carlos Hyde more in the Big 10 Championship game when they were on a roll.

"I don't motivate the players. I get them to motivate themselves. That's the only kind of motivation that's worth a damn." - Woody Hayes

SPreston2001's picture

Glad hes staying lets just hope he can learn not to abandon the running game late in the season and call more than 4 different plays... 

rdubs's picture

I wonder if we can thank Braxton for Herman returning.  He might have come back anyways, but I can certainly imagine Braxton sitting down and saying I am not quite ready to go, but I only want to come back if you're here.

TMac's picture

I could see this as a mutual decision & agreement made after the bowl game. 

osubuck57's picture

Agreed, the play calling needs to get better, but so does the execution. Our WR corps , other than Philly Brown, was pretty much a no-show the last few games of the season. That was a combination of play-calling and dropped balls/ Wrs not getting open. Hope he continues to evolve this offense.
 

SCOTTC.

ChazBuckeye's picture

Good to hear!

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

thunderhawks51's picture

Keep in mind execution is a huge factor in play calling. If the coordinator does not have confidence in his players to carry out the call, he's not going to make it. We can sit here and blame his play selections, but I for one think it had a lot to do with 1.) the obvious drops of the wr's 2.) the inconsistent accuracy and reads of Miller. I love the guy and am thrilled he is returning, but his freakish athletic ability covered up some gaping problems in his game. The same ones that don't project him all that highly on NFL draft boards right now. A prime example of execution vs. play call is the 4th down against MSU (I know this was Meyer's call and not Herman's but it's still a valid argument). You can say it wasn't the right call but we were one block away from busting that for a HUGE gain. Things like that hang in the back of a play caller's mind if consistency is not there.

OSUNEA1986's picture

I still contend that his play calling was the issue. The pass game is so very dependent on timing and rhythm. It seemed that OSU's offense performed optimally in their "hurry up" mode when athletes could, well, be athletes. Execution was sweet.
Herman took too bloody long over thinking it. It threw the guys off and gave the defense the upper hand in both Big championship and Clemson game. The tight ends were doing a great job and Philly certainly did his job. I think Herman simply wasn't accustomed to utilizing the weapons he had, at times wasn't willing to take risks. He put Braxton in situations that limited the kids options. It's been amazing to watch Braxton, Hyde and the o-line bail him out. But Herman and Urban will have to do better if they want championships.
I have never tolerated blaming the kids when I see the kind of effort, talent & skill I see on offense. In contrast, I have defended the defensive coaches simply because I'm not yet seeing the effort, talent and skill from our defensive secondary athletes (yet).

thunderhawks51's picture

In no way am I speaking in absolutes saying that all of Herman's play calls or tempos were perfect. However, at the end of the day you have to play the hand you're dealt. You're right that we have great kids who give it their all, but you'd be kidding yourself if you said there were no limiting factors to any of our personnel. I'm never one to pin blame on one person or group. Yes, there are times Tom could put people in better positions, but football is all about execution, especially in an option offense. The best offenses are not the ones that out think their opponents. They're the ones that impose their will, even when the other team knows what's coming. By saying execution is an issue I'm not only criticizing players, I'm criticizing the team. It's the coaches job to prepare them adequately, and it's the players' jobs to make plays. 
I respect your opinion, but at the end of the day, I think we can all agree that we would rather see this offense rather than walrusball. 

SPreston2001's picture

I would usually agree with you Thunder but if that was the case then why did he abandon the running game when Hyde has been the most consistent player we've had for the last two seasons?? I think he often times got too cute with the play calling instead of just running your bell cow for a sure 5-6 yards. We all know Braxtons passing isnt the greatest and outside of Philly our WR's failed to exist so why all the cute pass plays?? I think thats his style of playcalling but he needs to learn to dial it back and run power football from time to time...

thunderhawks51's picture

I wouldn't necessarily classify our power run game as effective to start the game. They did a good job of stuffing the middle. It opened up more towards the end when we were busy playing catch up, and when you're playing catch up you tend to have to sling it around a little more. 

osubuckeye4life's picture

Very happy to hear this!!!

aphill89's picture

I have a feeling this won't be the last time they'll come calling for him

"The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win." - Wayne Woodrow Hayes 

VestedInterest's picture

Gene better re-think opening that dusty, B1G money chest if he wants to keep pace as suitors ain't going to stop a knockin'.

allinosu's picture

Herman said himself he gets stuck in his comfort zone when answering the lack of Dontre. I think this is the case of predictable play calling. Is not the function of a coordinator to work in execution. I think he really loves to run the football and pass when necessary. How many times did we open throwing short to loosen up the defense then drop it. I guess when you got Hyde it's hard not to use him.

teddyballgame's picture

Glad they both stayed. 
I think if either Herman or Braxton left the odds for the other leaving would have gone up...

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Poison nuts's picture

I liked that too. They wanted him pretty damn bad it seems.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

They seem to forget that Texas doesn't have Braxton, Hyde, or Ohio State's O-Line.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

LouGroza's picture

Funny, but Texas really thought Tom Herman was going to be their next OC. They are not happy right now.

KLF Buckeye's picture

I had a few moments of worry knowing Texas would be re-staffing, but now...

ScarletNGrey01's picture

Good ... no ... make that great news.  He is touted as a really smart guy, hopefully he learned that getting conservative in the big games is not the way to go, rather than pulling back like he did let's see next season if he opens things up against the big boys.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

Findog5's picture

Why did it seem as if the receivers were always open when Kenny G was in the game?

NCFinn

JozyMozy's picture

Not knocking Kenny G., but it certainly helped that the receivers seemed wide open when the Bucks played San Diego State, Cal, and Florida A&M.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

So you're saying FAMU's D was suspect? XD

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

ep's picture

kind of a dick move for Charlie to try to poach a coach from the old boss.  time to steal a recruit or two Urbs.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Thomas this year, and Soso in '15.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

buckibri's picture

how do we know it was not Herman that initiated the contact at Texas?

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Happy Herman will be back to give JT another year to learn the offense. Even if Herman leaves after 2014 I think the offense will still be in good shape.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

buckz4evr's picture

I would have been surprised if he would've left.  He wants a HC job.  He already is a OC/QB coach.  A lateral move would not have made any sense, especially for just one year.

Knarcisi's picture

Glad he stayed but let's get past page 2 of the play book coach. 

EwanJobi's picture

I would have also been surprised if he left for anything other than a head coaching position. After Mack “decided” to step down, everyone was out spinning Texas as the mecca of coaching. It must be hard for them to deal with all the rejection.

buckeyedude's picture

It will be interesting to see how the playbook evolves without The Workhorse named El Guapo in the backfield. I hope Braxton goes to the QB Guru again in California to work on his passing skills.
Yes, OSU is deep at running back, but none have the skills that Carlos has(vision, speed, power and patience, combo). Yet.

 
 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

(vision, speed, power and patience, combo)

I think that is the main thing they're lacking.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Jonnferrell's picture

Another year of Mensa small talk from the sportscasters!  Hooray!

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke