Fickell: Status of Spence, Roby Unknown for Orange Bowl

By Kyle Rowland on December 30, 2013 at 9:41a
131 Comments
Ryan Shazier, CJ Barnett and Luke Fickell share some laughs with the media.

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – Ohio State and Clemson have now been in South Florida for 24 hours. The Buckeyes practiced Sunday, while the Tigers go through their first practice on-site Monday afternoon. In each schools’ first meeting with the media, coaches and players revealed excitement but also a business-like attitude.

A vacation this is not. Ohio State and Clemson both have critics to prove wrong. Instead of the Orange Bowl, the Redemption Bowl would be an appropriate moniker for Friday night’s game at Sun Life Stadium. Big wins dot the resumes in recent years, but so too do massive disappointments.

“We’re ready to go,” said Urban Meyer.

Ohio State

  • Defensive coordinator Luke Fickell said there’s “always hope” Noah Spence can make it to Miami for the Orange Bowl, but Fickell said team has to continue preparing without him. Jamal Marcus and Steve Miller are the next guys up.
  • Fickell confirmed Vonn Bell is the starter at nickel.
  • Asked how he deals with criticism, Fickell says you don’t listen. He said he even his kids have made suggestions on defensive adjustments.
  • The most similar offense Ohio State has seen in comparison to Clemson this season is its own in practice, according to Fickell.
  • “I don’t know if we've seen a receiving corps the entire year like [Clemson’s].” –Fickell
  • Bradley Roby, who’s missed some practice time in recent weeks and wore a sleeve on his knee yesterday, was scheduled to appear at interviews but did not show up. Roby is day-to-day, Fickell said. He's still rehabbing. Buckeyes are hopeful to have him match up against Sammy Watkins.
  • If Roby can’t go, Armani Reeves will start.
  • C.J. Barnett called Sammy Watkins one of the fastest guys OSU’s faced and someone who’s playmaking ability is through the roof.
  • On improving the defense, Fickell said it’s as simple as the 11 guys on the field working together.
  • Ryan Shazier said the NFL Draft Advisory Board gave him a second-round grade.

Clemson

  • Offensive coordinator Chad Morris called Ohio State one of the finest teams in the country and said they’re probably one play away from playing for the national championship.
  • Sammy Watkins was an unknown when he arrived at Clemson. He’s since evolved into one of the best wide receivers in the country. Morris raved about Watkins’ explosiveness and his ability to go up and grab the ball with strong hands.
  • Tajh Boyd spurned Ohio State in the weeks before National Signing Day five years ago. He said if he had committed at the Army All-American Bowl, he would currently be an Ohio State Buckeye.
  • One week after Urban Meyer was hired at Ohio State, Clemson won the ACC championship. The next day, Morris said his contract was re-done and he became highest paid assistant in the country. Translation: Meyer wanted Morris as the offensive coordinator at Ohio State.
  • “For me, it’s about playing the best game I’ve played so far. Not just for me, but for this program and this university.” –Boyd
  • Clemson lost to West Virginia 70-33 in the Orange Bowl two years ago. Boyd said it was a product of the team being young. Two years later, he said they’ve matured and are eager to make up for that poor performance.
  • In talking about the Buckeyes’ recent pass defense woes, Boyd kept it simple, saying Ohio State hasn’t played its best.
  • “If we go out and execute our system, I think we can have anything we want.” –Boyd
  • Morris told a funny story where he had team doctors look at Boyd's eyes because he thought he needed glasses. His vision was fine – 20/20, in fact.
  • Boyd said he was an impressionable young kid during recruiting process. Said he probably would have committed to final school he visited. After committing to Clemson, Boyd said he never talked to Jim Tressel because he felt so bad. But he said today Tressel is still his guy.
  • At one point, Boyd said he wanted to go to Michigan, then added he wouldn't have liked it. He'll make friends in Ohio with that comment.
  • “Ohio State has some of the dopest uniforms in the country.” –Boyd
131 Comments

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Hovenaut's picture

I sure hope Roby can go. Obviously he has a future to consider, but he's sure going to be needed Friday night.
I've had enough nightmares about the pass defense, doesn't look like they will be ending anytime soon.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Bucks777's picture

Let me get this straight...
 
Our best Defensive pass rusher/ leading with Sacks for the season , gone?
Our best pass defender in Roby possibly gone?.
Both of these players directly affect the passing defense. They are the best we have in an already porous pass defense!
If they both don't play, it will be big plays, an big points for Clemson!
Just from the leadership on the field perspective, it will get ugly quickly....
I hope not but when you take from your defense the best pass defender and the best pass rusher, things will only be bleak at best!

Hovenaut's picture

At least we know Jamal Marcus and Steve "Big ol' jet had a light on" Miller can be effective at DE.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

bedheadjc's picture

I'll bite: is that really what you think he says in the song? There's a great list of misheard lyrics for that line.

Hovenaut's picture

Upvote for getting the joke.
Full disclosure though....I probably didn't realize the actual lyrics until I was in my 20's.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

dan_isaacs's picture

Big ol jet airliner

Dan Isaacs

Poison nuts's picture

Pig hole jam hair liner.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Buckeye929's picture

Yes, but even Roby has struggled... we need him and more importantly his A game, not the type he played v. TTUN and MSU... The thought of Reeves is a bit frightening, frankly.
 

SC Buckeye Nation

CC's picture

I can't think of a worse position matchup in the entire bowl schedule than Reeves vs. Watkins.
That is a nightmare scenario.  Roby vs. Watkins was bad enough.
Watkins is a top 3 receiver in the country IMO and we simply can't cover him with 1 corner.
This could get ugly.

airbuckeye's picture

No the thought of Reeves is a DAM NIGHTMARE!!!!

BTwrestle04's picture

If Roby can’t go, Armani Reeves will start.

 
Oh please, please don't let this happen.

oregonianbuckeye's picture

Why not Burrows? He's looked pretty good the last few games, especially relative to Armani.

CC's picture

Technically they play different positions.  From what I have seen Burrows only replaced Grant and Reeves always replaced Roby.
Reeves vs. Watkins is a worst case scenario imo.

southbuc's picture

After watching burrows fill in for grant I can't imagine a universe in which he isnt better at anything than reeves. Armani, god bless him, looked worse than anyone's I've ever seen play for osu

FROMTHE18's picture

Expect Burrows in ASAP if/(more likely) when Reeves messes up. 

ChazBuckeye's picture

Couldn't agree more! I almost threw up in my mouth thinking of Reeves trying to cover Watkins. If my memory serves me correctly, he got dusted by a TE against Iowa.

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

Bucks777's picture

I'll take lewan over reeves...LOL

LouBuck35's picture

Sounding less optimistic for Spence to make the trip.  If Luke can only give "there's always hope"...yikes.  You're up Jamal.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

aphill89's picture

I truly believe that Marcus has the talent to get it done, if Spence cant go.

"The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win." - Wayne Woodrow Hayes 

OSUFlash's picture

I'd rather see Bosa play corner than Reeves.

osuflash

BuckeyeChief's picture

In regards to Boyd, I could understand why he felt bad and didn't talk to JT; he allegedly committed to Ohio State, had Chip Kelly fly in for the announcement and then shocked everyone by going to Clemson. (I had a back and forth discussion via e-mail with Tim May, and at one point when I asked what happened May said "I don't know, you live near him, you ask").
My hate for the whole thing was legendary on here at the time, and I vowed NEVER to speak of it again, until now. After speaking to one of his HS teammates, I get the impression he was under a tremendous amount of pressure and wanted to please everyone and wasn't quite sure what to do. So, I am glad he has had a stellar career at Clemson, and I hope he goes out with a 70-0 loss.  

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

RedStorm45's picture

•If Roby can’t go, Armani Reeves will start.

Burrows.  Please and thank you.
 

•On improving the defense, Fickell said it’s as simple as the 11 guys on the field working together.

Shot at Withers calling different secondary coverages?  Or stupid coach talk rather than admitting he hasn't been calling schemes effectively for 3 years running?

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Sammy Watkins was an unknown when he arrived at Clemson.

He was a 5 star player across the board. How exactly was he "unknown"?

Translation: Meyer wanted Morris as the offensive coordinator at Ohio State.

If Herman leaves next year, Morris will be pursued hard.

“Ohio State has some of the dopest uniforms in the country.” –Boyd

Reading these comments makes me think that Boyd kind of regrets not coming to Columbus.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Brutenley69's picture

“Ohio State has some of the dopest uniforms in the country.” –Boyd
Reading these comments makes me think that Boyd kind of regrets not coming to Columbus.
 
Kids  has respect for the University and obviously still thinks highly of the Buckeyes, doesn't mean he regrets not choosing the Buckeyes.
GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RedStorm45's picture

Is he talking the regular unis or the "rivalry" unis?
 
Just because he didn't choose to come to OSU doesn't mean he suddenly has to hate everything related to Ohio State.  Obviously he was intrigued enough to have us in his top 3 down to the end.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

No one said he would. It's just amazing that he is still high on tOSU even after being at Clemson for 5 years.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Crimson's picture

If Herman leaves next year, Morris will be pursued hard.

If he didn't take it before, why would he take it when he's a head coach candidate?

Denny's picture

Well, at least we'll have an angst-riddled week leading up to the bowl game thanks to status intrigue.

Taquitos.

RBuck's picture

Fickell: Status of Spence, Roby Unknown for Orange Bowl

 
Damn, we better score a shit-pot full of points.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Idaho Helga's picture

If we don't score at least 40 we will lose.

BuckeyeChief's picture

My prediction is 70-63, winner is a toss up.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

poop's picture

First to 70 wins.

IBleedSandG's picture

If Roby can’t go, Armani Reeves will start.

Good Christ!

We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from O-HI-O!

Wesleyburgess1's picture

The bad keeps getting worse. 2 out of 3 of our best defensive players wont be on the field. I keep hoping that Roby is just making excuses in advance. Reeves wont even put up a fight against watkins. Idk Go Bucks

BuckeyeChief's picture

Can they just mug Clemson's WR at the line?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

thirtytrap's picture

Anybody have the phone number for Jeff Gillooly????

CC's picture

I think this one went over a lot people's heads.  Well done and a very sick sports reference.

741's picture

Whyyyyyyyeeeeeeee whyyyyyyeeeeeee!

Buckeye5000's picture

I called him, but he has a prior commitment....on Jamies Winston.

Go Bucks!

BuckeyeChief's picture

LMAO on this.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

OSUBias's picture

This is funny for several reasons:
1) it is absolutely the only way to keep their explosive plays under control
2) have you seen us try to play press coverage? Our corners miss the bump/jam with alarming regularity. So by attempting this strategy, we'd whiff the mug and get burnt anyway
3) if you don't laugh, you have to cry. so we have to laugh.

Slider...you stink

actionstanleyjackson's picture

My Sweet Jesus..already bad defense is going to look even worse. Reeves trying to match up with the Clemson receivers? That is some NC-17 stuff.  
Might as well start Cameron Williams and Pitts brown to complete the triple crown of sadness. This is going to be worse than the Michigan game on defense by about 10x

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

RedStorm45's picture

I mean, Clemson has at least a competent O-Line right?  And a QB without a broken bone?

extemporary08's picture

Latest reports I read said Gardner didn't have a broken bone.

Buckeye5000's picture

Espin was reporting he did have a broken foot 2 days ago....fwiw.

Go Bucks!

CasualBystander's picture

The Onion isn't a reliable source for news bro...

"Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured." - Mark Twain

Buckeye5000's picture

The onion? I said ESPN. 

Go Bucks!

CasualBystander's picture

That was a dig at ExTemporary, not you 5000. The only question left about Gardner's broken foot is which play during The Game he broke it. I hate it when people quote some unnamed report which happens to be either bullshit or complete lies

"Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured." - Mark Twain

Buckeye5000's picture

Got you CASUALBYSTANDER. I also agree about people who "quote" some unnamed source. Never know if it is true or not. Better IMHO, to not post stuff like that at all.

Go Bucks!

Kindell's picture

I don't know if I am more excited about watching Vonn Bell, or that I won't be watching Corey "Pittsburgh" Brown.
 

actionstanleyjackson's picture

I was excited until I heard the news that reeves might have to start and play a lot. To me he is about on the same level as brown. Fixed one problem only to have another one open up 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

Poison nuts's picture

I'd much rather ther Cam Burrows or Eli Apple (burn the redshirt!) than Reeves. Anyone but Reeves. He may have potential for the future, but this year has been burned every time he's out there. Never want to be too hard on a kid, but Reeves is a liability.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

MichaelJ721984's picture

Possibly no Spence or Roby & Reeves starting.... Gotta love Monday mornings!

Run_Fido_Run's picture

If Roby and Spence can't go, that will suck in terms of trying to win the game (which is definitely the main priority), but it might help in terms of gaining experience for next year.
As it stands, the defense (coaches and players) might as well go into this game with an all-out aggressive riverboat gambler mentality: they won't be able to consistently get Clemson's offense off the field, so just go hell bent for sacks and turnovers. Ideally, Clemson would either score quickly or cough up the ball quickly. 
Meanwhile, the Buckeyes offense aims to pound their defense into submission on 5+ minute power drives.

actionstanleyjackson's picture

Reeves is a big liability though. He just is not a high level corner. Would rather see burrows or someone else. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I agree - but the staff has Burrows playing "boundary corner" (if I'm not mixing up the terminology), backing up Grant. I assume the problem is that Burrows has focused on the techniques of playing that position. If Burrows subs for Roby, he needs to provide more run "force support" and play more bump technique - right Ross?

Earle's picture

I'm a lot less concerned about Marcus at DE than I am about Reeves at CB.  Hope the offense is hitting on all cylinders, because they're going to need to put up whole lotta points.

Italics are for emphasis; an ellipsis represents an unfinished thought.

Maestro's picture

Agreed.  Miller and Marcus can play.

vacuuming sucks

Earle's picture

Yeah, definitely some depth at DE.  CB, not so much, though I would like to see what the kids can do.

Italics are for emphasis; an ellipsis represents an unfinished thought.

Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

Spence doesn't hurt us as much as Roby does. Jamal Marcus is a beast when it comes to pass rush and Clemson has been a pass heavy offense. If we play Reeves over Burrows it will definitely make me question the coaching staff. Reeves is incompetent. If we are giving Bell a shot, we need to put Burrows in too. 

OSUBias's picture

Different positions, as noted by several other people. I think at this point they'd be burning one of the youngsters redshirt if they don't want to play Reeves, or starting a walkon.

Slider...you stink

d5k's picture

And Reeves' issues have been primarily playing the wrong coverage a few times per game, not necessarily just with ability on the field.  Perhaps with a month of the same game plan prep we will not have huge coverage breakdowns no matter who is on the field.  And hopefully in the offseason we can develop DB's that can handle whatever combination of schemes we are going to use next year.

osu07asu10's picture

Hey RDUBS,...thought you may find this interesting...

Bradley Roby, who’s missed some practice time in recent weeks and wore a sleeve on his knee yesterday, was scheduled to appear at interviews but did not show up. Roby is day-to-day, Fickell said. He's still rehabbing. Buckeyes are hopeful to have him match up against Sammy Watkins.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I think Burrows will get his chance whether he starts or not, especially if Reeves gets torched.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

rjenkins26's picture

Hopefully they don't wait too long to replace Reeves if he does get torched a few times. Like maybe the second quarter....

TMac's picture

Take the OVER!!

RedStorm45's picture

Which is...WHAT??!!...still just 69?

Idaho Helga's picture

We need a big dose of El Guapo and keep the defense off the field and rested.  Not feeling very good about this.  Hopefully we can get a good pass rush going.

Boomcat's picture

If Roby doesn't play, then book it. We're screwed.

Colorado Johnny's picture

I really doubt Morris is drawing up a gameplan to just have Boyd drop back and drop bombs into Watkins' lap all day long. I fully expect Clemson to use a short intermediate passing game, wideout screens (watch for the misdirection) and maybe some sweeps to exploit this defense. They will neutralize the defensive line and the game will be theirs.
63-38 Clemson

Colorado Johnny's picture

Downvote for my comment or score prediction? Was it deserved either way?

SonOfBuckeye's picture

Questioning downvotes = saying "Jehovah."

Colorado Johnny's picture

Bunch of little 4th grade girls with your downvotes

CasualBystander's picture

DV for not being a True Buckeye and having doubts about the team!

"Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured." - Mark Twain

TMac's picture

 

Grant could be out/limited at LB too

BuckGnome's picture

Can we sneak Raekwon onto the field in Gran's jersey?

okiebuck's picture

Disappointing to hear all the hate towards Armani Reeves on here gang. He's young and has made some coverage mistakes but then so has our supposed stud Roby. Personally I have been unimpressed by Roby's play all season.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

+1 HS
Colorado Johnny's picture

Just call it like it is. Has the coaching and the defensive play calling been suspect? Probably. But the bottom line is we do not have the Jimmy's and Joe's...yet!
A good number of players on Defense were just misses. MAC players at best.

Colorado Johnny's picture

More downvotes cause I call it like it is. Bring on the downvotes little Sallys. I'm sure it makes you feel better about yourself. mgobloggers have more guts and balls than you fairies.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

You're behind a computer saying someone doesn't have balls. Relax.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

CasualBystander's picture

Ok, you're just wrong. Mgobloggers don't have more balls, they just understand that a differing opinion isn't an insult and a down vote doesn't actually mean anything

"Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured." - Mark Twain

-1 HS
KevinJ's picture

So let me get this straight you are sticking up for Reeves, then turning around and bashing Roby?
I'd rather see Burrows than Reeves, if they have to slide Grant over to the other side then do it.

okiebuck's picture

No, no,no, I'm not bashing Roby; just pointing out that he's had his share of blown coverage this year. This is not a news flash but I don't think he's played near the level he played last year, except on special teams. I just don't like seeing one of our guys being bashed at all; save that for the coaches.
Very amusing to get DV's for telling the truth.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

CasualBystander's picture

Bashing a freshman for making freshman mistakes, blah...Bashing "the best corner in the country" for making freshman mistakes, deserved. With you 100%

"Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured." - Mark Twain

actionstanleyjackson's picture

Reeves has shown very little to nothing when he has played. He has been lost out there and shown he cannot match up with average guys let alone Watkins 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

Bucks43201's picture

Yet Reeves was a highly-rated recruit. Unfortunately that has been a pattern with this D the past few years. Reeves is still young. Not every recruit pans out, but it seems to be more prevalent on the defensive side of the ball recently. Hope that changes soon.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

CC's picture

Personally I think Reeves is the wrong guy with possibly the wrong coaching.  The results speak for themselves.  Reeves vs. Watkins is such a nightmare I don't care how awesome our offense is.

2morrow's picture

If the defense is going to get torched anyway, lets play very aggressive. Our offense may be able to keep up and defensively we may get lucky playing this way - certainly not going to win sitting back and waiting for Boyd to pick us a part. If these announcements hold true, we lose two of our best defensive players from a poor defense - yikes!
 
I'd go to Tressell ball and pull an Oregon Rose Bowl on them...Hyde gets 50 carries and we hope for a bunch of 15 play 9 minute drives and wait for them to get frustrated and make mistakes.
Not looking good unless a different D shows up.

RoyWalley's picture

If no Spence or Roby, we will need to score 80+ points to win.  With those two playing we "only" need to score 60+ points to win.

kareemabduljacobb's picture

Sammy Watkins was an unknown when he arrived at Clemson. He’s since evolved into one of the best wide receivers in the country.

 
Not sure about the whole unknown.  Consensus top 5 WR, 5 Star rating from Scout, Rivals, 247.

TennesseeJohn's picture

so...no bryant, roby questionable, spence is who-knows-where?
stay with me here...
we blitz every down. pull all cb's. Our only shot is to get to tahjhj before he throws. 
Let's start a petition and get it to fickell by tomorrow.
WE CAN DO THIS GUYS

Bucks777's picture

EXACTLY...JAM ,,,SUPER JAM the receivers at the line of scrimmage and don't let them get past 5 yards just keep blocking them and don't hold them just be real physical and the defensive line will get there, just need to keep these receivers smashed for about 3 seconds and keep them within the first 5 yards this is doable! It also disrupts plays and causes offensive breakdowns.

Riggins's picture

Sweet Baby Jesus what are these coaches doing in practice that they can't develop one of these stud recruits into a semi-competent Cornerback so Reeves doesn't have to play Bump-and-Chase coverage?

Bucks777's picture

I have been saying this all season!

actionstanleyjackson's picture

Careful not to question Kerry Coombs ability. You might get yelled at 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

Does anyone have any fuuuureakin idea what is going on with Spence?
I hate to echo negative sentiments...but....My GOD Reeves on Watkins.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Bucks777's picture

Reeves on Watkins...I want a refund on my tickets to the Watkins bowl...

D-Day0043's picture

I doubt Roby plays. He already declared he was going into the draft. If he is not a 100%, plays and gets torched by Watkins, his already plummeting draft stock is going to drop even further. I have a feeling he is going to make a business decision and sit this one out.

Bucks777's picture

weak people do this, I would not draft him because of it.  My opinion. 
What is his business move once he gets paid, to sit out and not get hurt in the NFL!?
 
I am sick and tired of these athletes and people who stick up for them, with this PC correctness, be a MAN and play football, the chips will fall where they will anyway!

d5k's picture

Wait are you criticizing Roby for some dumb hypothetical mentality he most likely does not have?  Groupthink is awesome guys.  
Facts: Roby got hurt on the field vs. MSU, fought like hell to get back in the game and has rehabbed since under a veil of secrecy about the severity of the injury.  

D-Day0043's picture

I agree wholeheartedly. I have just had a suspicion, and Urban alluded to it earlier in the year, that Roby has had buyers remorse with his decision to stay. I don't think he has been "all in" this year. I hope he proves me wrong and shows some pride, and puts on his best performance of the year.

buckeyedude's picture

I doubt Roby plays. He already declared he was going into the draft. If he is not a 100%, plays and gets torched by Watkins, his already plummeting draft stock is going to drop even further.

This is a great point I hadn't thought of. I think you may have nailed it here, D-DAY. I don't claim to know what is going on in the mind of Roby, and he's still a Buckeye, but he's played a little "distracted" this fall, and I would not be surprised if he sat this one out also.
Hell, I wouldn't even blame him if he did! If you look at it from what our defense has looked like, and how many tackles he's missed this year because he doesn't wrap up, it's a losing situation for him. If I'm Roby's agent, I'd tell him to sit this one out or fake an injury on the first play.
 Clemson is going to move the ball. A lot. We outscored TTUN. Not so, MSU. I don't know what Clemson's defense is like, but I hope it's as bad as TTUN's.

 
 

OSUnathen's picture

Let me get this right. Possibly no Roby who is our best DB in a secondary that is really bad playing a team that is arguable the best passing offense in nation. Awesome! 
 
P.S. I'd rather see Mewhort start at DB than Reeves.

actionstanleyjackson's picture

Sounds like a lot of guys have food poisoning per Darren lee's mom 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

ScarletNGrey01's picture

Hoo boy ... to state the obvious sounds likes a lot of our key defensive players are injured (and in one case missing).  As others have posted, hope the bucks can sustain some long drives, the best defense might be to keep our offense out there as long as possible.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

Bucks777's picture

   I am starting to think that Urbanis losing some of the Tessel recruits loyalty.  I have been in these shoes before . The coach that recruited me left for another school, and all of his recruits were basically nothing in the eyes of the new incoming coach.  You could sense favoritism , even though it was never brought up, it was known for sure. 
    I have to believe that with Dontre, EZE, and Bosa all leaping Tressel players for playing time, that players start talking amongst themselves and clicks form on those lines.  I hope I am wrong, but pride is a huge factor in dealing with young college men.  You have the Tressel guys some of them are not happy and you have some of them that are, but there is always something underneath with a few players.
     A great coach can come in and develop player trust and commitment, I believe Meyer can do this, however I remember speaking to players in Florida and when he came in certain [layers were curtailed off playing time and felt shafted.  You can never please everyone and that is all I am trying to say here.
 
Go Bucks!  Be proud to a be a buckeye and wear that uniform proudly and serve us in the Orange Bowl, and more importantly you owe it to yourselves for all the hard work you have put in all year long.. Go.get em !!!

BAR43's picture

Not trying to be a dick, but what is the point of this post? Where is it coming from? What are you trying to say?

Bucks777's picture

Quite often in cases like this, where you see a lot of players being hurt for extended periods of time at key positions,and or others that have things to take care of, and small lingering injuries; they are in some ways reaching out for attention, that they feel they deserve and have not been given to this point...  That's all.  I am not saying this is the case, just saying it does happen.  Most often during Big time games~!
 
Pride is a very bad egg.
You see this all the time in the NFL, and more and more with college players.
Clowney for example.  They care about themselves more than the team!  However, I do not believe this is the case with tOSU, but there is always things we will never know.

BAR43's picture

Ok. That might somewhat be the case in very few cases and for players that are not seeing the field at all, but I am not sure how that fits into this topic at all. You have starters that are injured or personal issues, not sub par talent player complaining about playing time. I'm not sure there has been any evidence or rumor of turmoil between Tress commits and Urban. In just about every position the urban scheme really doesn't change any commits ability to be effective. Even our power RB are utilized in this offense. Just not sure I understand the point of your statement or what prompted it.

fanfarris's picture

Worst argument i have ever heard.Coaches make a name for themselves and a whole lot of more $$$ when they win.I think Urbz lost Hundreds of thousands for not going to the NC.If the coach has a player who can win for him,then that player will play..

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d5k's picture

Wow you are pulling all sorts of things out of your hindparts today.

D. Anthony's picture

I hope Roby is not concerned about getting Abbrederis'd!

D. Anthony

CC's picture

Based on our 2ndary play this year, I think an Abbrederis'ing may be a best case scenario.  Watkins and Boyd are way better than any combo we have faced this year.

RedsBuckeyeBoy's picture

I'm with you on this one. I'd gladly take 10 catches from Watkins for 207 yds and only 1 TD. I think that would be a huge win for tOSU's D.
Ugh...I can't believe I just typed that with absolute sincerity. I'm not asking to have Tressel back (loved the guy, but I still cringe when I think about his "the offense's role is to not put the defense in a bad position." quote), but could we get his defensive units?

Jbucks's picture

on top of Roby, Grant, Spence, someones mother (not sure who's) is saying at least 8 players have gotten Food Poisoning... God be with our team on Gameday, we need all the help we can get Friday

Light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it-John 1:5 SEC meet Ohio State, Ohio State meet SEC

741's picture

Get ready for a steady dose of El Guapo. Buckeyes need to keep the ball out of Taj Boyd's hands and win the time of possession battle.
I predict we are are about to see some old-school Tresselball, folks. Try and build up an early lead, and then shut down 80% of the playbook and just ground and pound.
I'm tempted to suggest taking the "under" may be the way to go, but I honestly have no idea how good Clemson is, so I can't.

BAR43's picture

What do you mean "shut down 80% of the play book to ground and pound"? That has been the offensive scheme the past 4-5 games haha

Dublin68's picture

So I guess we need to keep our weakest link "defense" on the sideline as much as we can!!!!!! Give Carlos Hyde 40 carry and let him run wild?...

JO8K's picture

"It’s as simple as the 11 guys on the field working together" .....oh, thats all? Phew, I thought it might be our crappy defensive coaching or sub-par play on the field. 
Good news boys, we're a few trust falls and some well crafted friendship bracelets away from totally shutting down Clemson's passing attack. 

BAR43's picture

I get the humor with this statement. But what I think Fickell is getting at, and what does make sense is the fact that you need all 11 guys on defense to play their respective responsibilities. I know this seems obvious, but especially in the secondary you need  your guys to play in the right position and not lose sight of their responsibility. The issue is, the coaches can teach and drill this into their heads, but the players have to make it happen. Unfortunately: Brown, Reeves, etc. have not shown consistency or ability to play the position accurately.

RedsBuckeyeBoy's picture

I reviewed all of the game tapes from this year and last and discovered that the buckeyes have actually been playing with only 9 guys on defense. This explains a lot!

HotSauceCommittee's picture

Best comment of the day!
My daughter made me a Buckeye-colored crazy loom bracelet for my birthday. Maybe she can crank out 100 more in the next few days!  Two hundred more after that for Premium 11W members.

fanfarris's picture

"The opposing team QB has to go down.And he has to go down HARD".Al Davis.

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RBuck's picture

Look at it this way fellow Dubbers; What's worse, Roby on a bad wheel or Reeves?
I have no idea.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

OSUBias's picture

Same as my earlier comment regarding Christian Bryant and Pitt Brown: if Bryant can walk and gets medically cleared, he's an upgrade.
Now that they've promoted Tyvis and Vonn, I guess we at least got the change we were looking for. Talk about trial by fire for the young buck.
Roby leaving the game was actually the end of our chance in the BIG CG. He's had some ups and downs this year, but the fall off between him and the next guy is bigger than any other position on the field.

Slider...you stink

actionstanleyjackson's picture

Roby in a wheelchair is better than a healthy Armani reeves 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

Crimson's picture

That would bring a new meaning to: "Roby has wheels!"

Seattle Linga's picture

Weaknesses bring out the best and we will be ready come Friday night.

actionstanleyjackson's picture

Meyer said that roby has bone bruise on knee. Will find out about spence tomorrow 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

Eph97's picture

Roby is seen as a 2-3rd rounder. If he gets torched by Watkins, his stock isn't going to drop much. However, if he can shut down Watkins he might just get himself back into the first round. Roby should play and do his best.