Brace Yourself: Ohio State May Drop in BCS Standings

By Jason Priestas on November 17, 2013 at 5:07a
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For weeks, Ohio State fans have ridden an emotional rollercoaster – overjoyed with the explosion of points on the football field, yet living in perpetual fear that Stanford, Baylor, and a handful of other teams, both real and imaginary, might jump the Buckeyes into the No. 3 spot in the BCS rankings.

Those fears may come to fruition today. Bleacher Report's Samuel Chi, who goes by @BCSGuru on Twitter and elsewhere (when ordering pizza would be hilarious), has Baylor third and Ohio State fourth in his latest set of projections.

After a lackluster victory over lowly Illinois, in which the Buckeyes led by just 12 at one point in the fourth quarter, they will be passed by surging Baylor in the upcoming BCS standings. The Bears pulled away from Texas Tech in the second half, winning 63-34 in a game played at AT&T Stadium in Arlington.

As a result, the Bears will gain enough in both the polls and computers to leapfrog the Buckeyes for the No. 3 spot. Alabama and Florida State will keep their tight grip on the top two spots, as both won without much of a struggle.

Ohio State was third with a .8926 average in the week 12 standings, while Stanford, who lost to USC was fourth, and Baylor was fifth, with a .8618 average. However, Chi believes the Baylor's 63-34 win over 7-4 Texas Tech will be enough to move the Bears ahead of the Buckeyes, who topped 3-7 Illinois 60-35.

Of course, Chi later couched his projections, saying if Baylor didn't jump the Buckeyes this week, they would definitely move ahead of them if they beat Oklahoma State in Stillwater next week.

So, EVERYBODY PANIC! Or not.

The week 13 BCS standings will be announced at 8:30 p.m. on ESPN.

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vitaminB's picture

Clearly 60 - 35 on the road  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  63-34 at home.
What an F'ing joke.

hit_the_couch's picture

They played at Jerry World; If I remember right, it's a 90 minute drive from Waco. I guess it could be considered a home game, for Baylor, since Lubbock is like 400 miles from Arlington.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

bucknasty13's picture

Indiana beat Illinois 52-35, so not really very impressive.

Seattle Linga's picture

So FSU should be number 1 cause bama played like crap right

bucknasty13's picture

I'm making the argument that our win is not equal to the Baylor win.  Texas Tech is significantly better than Illinois.  A 25 point win over Illinois should not be compared to Baylor's 29 point win, especially when one week ago, Indiana beat Illinois by 17.  Worse yet, our defense/special teams gave up 35 points, which is exactly what Indiana gave up.  I'm not saying anyone should get jumped, but the gap should be reduced.

bigbill992001's picture

Yeah, Im afraid he might be right.   We cant afford lackluster wins now, especially against lackluster teams.   But, Im amazed that the offense got 51-pts and the passing game sucked.   It looked like the old Brax out there.   Great running, poor passing.   Shoulda put up 75-80 against IL.   I know IL has a good passing game and we lost 3 starters on D, but 35 pts is too much if you wanna get into the BCS NC.

hit_the_couch's picture

No one in the top 5 looked impressive this week.
FSU did win 59-3 over 'Cuse, but GT also beat 'Cuse 56-0; that's 6-4 GT by the way. Pretty sure GT pulled their starters in the 3rd also. You know it's ugly when GT pulls their starters. 
Bamer is lucky that MSU is terrible and the dogs' back up QB came in, combined with bad coaching screwed it up the rest of the way. Bamer had a ton of turnovers too, and is damn lucky MSU is that bad. But we all know the worst team in the SEC would run the table in any other conference, so that helps Bamer's SOS.
Baylor and their not so hot defense didn't start to pull away till mid 3rd QTR, and TT's D is horrible too and gives away an average of 30+ a game. There is no way this Baylor team should jump Ohio State on the fact that they gave up 42, at home, to horrible, horrible WVA and the 100th worst scoring D in CFB.
I didn't catch Stanford, but I don't think it matters as they got loss #2.
I did see that professional troll Mark May made sure to let everyone know, on the evening highlights, that Ohio State scored 14 in the final 2 minutes and talked shit about how they gave up 35 to the Illini.
hahahahha BCS Guru must be legit if he's a featured columnist for the Bleacher Report. hahahahaha

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Haybucks's picture

May certainly dissed the Illini by saying Hyde scored on a defense that "gave up"! I don't think any team throws in the towel no matter the score.  Hyde gets stronger as the game goes on and our OL wears down their DL.  

You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was. - Irish proverb

 

joel121270's picture

Yeah I heard Fat Urkel say that after the game, he is a douche, and still butt hurt from the 72 OSU dropped on his sorry Pitt team years ago. The day he leaves ESiPN can't come soon enough.

jBarnes's picture

You got it Joel.  Fat Urkel has not value added to this conversation.  Even Lou Holtz called him out at halftime for hating on tOSU since Lou came on ESPN (2005, I checked...).  FU should be boycotted completely here - no reference, no links, no comments.  The hatin' must stop!

“I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.”  ― Douglas Adams

Abe Froman's picture

It should matter that Stanford got beat by USC.  Don't forget that this team was elite last week base don't their one win.  The media will drop this of course, because it doesn't fit their narrative now. But, as they were noting, a loss should matter that much.  If that is the case, that one can cherry pick the wins, then the USC loss shouldn't matter either.  

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

Oyster's picture

I missed the game, did Stanford not play their kind of game again?

RunningFree's picture

Oh, they definitely played Stanford style of football... because Stanford football always ends up with at least a loss or two.
Last time they went undefeated?  1940.  I guess the media thought Stanford football = 1940.

FROMTHE18's picture

Alabama did struggle in their victory so he's wrong there. But, with the way Baylor has played all year, its tough to think they wont get a lot of love in the polls. Have they really struggled at all?

fanatibuck's picture

Fromthe18 Baylor was down 14-0 to Texas Tech in the first quarter where as OSU played an away game and never trailed. No justification for dropping in the BCS.

THE URBANATOR AND HIS BOYS' JOURNEY HAS JUST BEGUN; 26-0 IS COMING BABY!!

kareemabduljacobb's picture

Why do you keep stressing the point of Baylor being down 14-0 to a decent/good 7-3 team being worse than us needing 2 late TDs to have a somewhat impressive win margin vs a 3 win team?   I'll give the Illini props for their domination of Cincy.. their other 2 wins?  Vs. FCS Southern Ill. and an 0-10 Miami (Oh) team.  I'm sorry, but Baylors win is still a lot more impressive.  No way our game should've been within 40 points.  Sure we played without a few starters on D... Baylor played without their best WR and top 2 RBs and still put up 63.  We're tOSU, we should have an abundance of talent coming in and filling in for those who get injured compared to Baylor.

AndyVance's picture

I said this on Twitter last night, but I'll say it again. Paraphrasing former Ohio State assistant coach Bo Schembechler, OSU is the only team in the country recovering from an undefeated season. No other team in the country is held to such a ridiculously high standard: the game was never in doubt, the Buckeyes won by 25, allowed some points against a pretty darn good passing attack, and did so while nearly 40% of its defensive starters were sidelined with injuries.
Alabama won u-g-l-y, Stanford lost, Baylor's score is a push with ours against a likewise  unranked opponent, and FSU rolled against a team that everyone bears handily, not to mention the fact that Duke's basketball team apparently beat Miami yesterday, so the 'Noles two Top 10 wins look less and less impressive all the time.
I've never heard so many people make a 25-point victory sound like a loss in my life. 

BuckeyeChris's picture

"Paraphrasing former Ohio State assistant coach..."
Very delicately phrased. Up-vote to you. 

buckeye85's picture

Yea, if everyone can talk about how good Georgia is and how they should still be ranked because they have had a bunch of injuries, then why is it not brought up that Ohio State was without their two starting LB's?

OSUNeedles's picture

Yep. Didn't have our Heisman level RB for 3 games. Didn't have our Heisman level quarterback for 3 games. Lost a team captain, senior safety for the year. Dressed 3 scholarship LBs for this game (I think). Other teams get exceptions for these kinds of things... OSU gets punished for not being impressive enough.
 

WC Buckeye's picture

Yeah, and I LOVE how Fat Urkel was describing FSU's destruction of "a great Clemson team" and "a great Miami team" when describing their wins vs. ours. What a ridiculous waste of pixels.

The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.

Brent Clay's picture

I think Bama was a lackluster win last night..  And people are saying it was won without a "STRUGGLE", while the Buckeyes had what the Media called a lackluster win while scoring 60 points on the road... This tells me the media is expecting a lot out of OSU more than any other team!
 
This hype will not go away,  It is what it is, the media loves to get all of us Ohio State fans all wound up tight, because of the love hate this country has for THE Ohio State Buckeyes. 
Its about ratings and money!  I think Mark May keeps his job because of the chaos he creates with the OSU fan base! (think about it, how many OSU fans tune in to hear what that dip shit has to say)?
Face it, Mark May is a Dick and does nothing but bash us every time he can...I feel and sense some of his comments are geared toward all of us. (he knows how much we hate him and how what he says pisses us off)  WE should not let this hype bother us, we have a team winning and as long as we keep winning, we are doing the right things to put us in a championship game.  The only thing wrong we can do is lose at this point!
Go bucks! 
 
 

fanatibuck's picture

Did you watch the Bama game? They committed 4 turnovers. I would say that is more than just lackluster or a struggle. They are fortunate MSU sucks cause they should have lost that game.

THE URBANATOR AND HIS BOYS' JOURNEY HAS JUST BEGUN; 26-0 IS COMING BABY!!

Geraffi's picture

I am at peace. The ranking systems are a joke. 
My Buckeyes, our Buckeyes are 22-0!

buckguyfan1's picture

 Cherish each and every one...

fanatibuck's picture

This tweet is irrelevant. The media narrative is designed to keep Buckeye Nation in a state of anxiety. Baylor was down in their game by 14. The conspiracy against us is nauseating. The last thing we need is our own media, blogs, and fans to strengthen the negative narrative. 

THE URBANATOR AND HIS BOYS' JOURNEY HAS JUST BEGUN; 26-0 IS COMING BABY!!

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

I'm glad someone FINALLY pointed out that Baylor was trailing in their game. I've been arguing that point all night.

I realize our win was not as sexy as we would have liked, but let's face it, it wouldn't have mattered. We can have a few less than stellar series, and that still outshines four turnovers. People are obsessed with our schedule. Funny, the toughest opponent we'll face this season is this false narrative.

If Baylor jumps us, the writing is on the wall I'm afraid.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

TMac's picture

With a less than stellar performance by 'Bama and the Stanford loss there will certainly be a new look at the top of the BCS, if only in margins.  We (The Buckeyes) just need to take care of business next week as that is all we can do. And root for the Cowboys!!

Chise47's picture

Doubt it !! Baylor won as, "unimpressive" , as we did. 'bama got a somewhat scare. Only, "I plead the F(ifth)SU", had what could be looked at as an 'impressive' win.
Stanford is done. We will now hear the Oregon quacking again. By years end, Baylor will be irrelevant. Quote me on that. 

bucknasty13's picture

No.  Baylor won more impressively than us.  They were close at halftime and broke away in the 3rd quarter, Illinois was within 12 near 4 minutes left in the game.  Not the same.

jenks's picture

You're right, trailing by multiple possessions at one point is not the same as never trailing.

gumtape's picture

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!

just another psycho, irrational, delusional Ohio St fan

Dirty419Boy's picture

I don't think it matters that much.  If Baylor wins at Oklahoma St next week, they'd have jumped us then.  If they lose, then it will be a one week blip at 3rd for them.

buckeyepastor's picture

Hate to say this, but I think the guy's right.  Not because it's what should happen, but because it's the way things have gone throughout the year.  The perception of weakness in the B1G means that poll voters and computers don't acknowledge that Illinois actually has a good offense.   For Chi to claim OSU struggled on account of the Illini being within 12 points for a couple minutes of action when Miss State was within 13 points of Alabama for the entire game and somehow Alabama was cruising to an easy victory is ridiculous.   But Alabama has been given a pass all year.  I heard someone say last night that Bama is the most complete team (great offense/great defense).   McCarron and Yeldon are pretty solid and all they do is win up til now, but Alabama's offense has been less than stellar.   I think Baylor jumps us this week and the Pokes take them out in Stillwater next week, so I don't really much care.   Besides that, there is no one left that is going to give FSU any sort of challenge, and same goes for Bama apart from Iron Bowl. 

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

wibuckeye's picture

You can't spell bcs without BS!

WIBUCKEYE

buckeyepastor's picture

ESPN's blog posts about yesterday are indicative of the still overwhelming negativeity towards Ohio State.   For Alabama, ESPN.com sees yesterday's narrow win against a Miss State program whose one conference win was over Kentucky as a sign of Alabama's championship pedigree (champions win close games when things aren't going well for them).  For OSU, a game with a depleted defense where the opponent was never outside of the early minutes of the game was rarely within two scores of us is a sign that the B1G is a joke.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

bucknasty13's picture

It does not matter!  Baylor plays two ranked teams still.  IF they win out, they would jump us.  I don't think they win out.

KLF Buckeye's picture

Just keep winning and everything else will take care of itself.
I am so glad this is the last year in which winning isn't everything.

KLF Buckeye's picture

Caveat: I realize the Buckeyes could very likely end up one of only 2 undefeated teams. In which case, winning would have been everything. I'm just tired of the commentary being about so much more than winning games.

Adambob's picture

Screw it. The only spots that matter are 1 and 2. It's going to be funny when there are 4 or more undefeated teams going into bowl season.

Gcar's picture

So, Baylor wins out, they don't have a championship game. What happens when we beat MSU in the Big championship game? Shouldn't we jump Baylor? Makes sense to me!

GregC

Seattle Linga's picture

Agreed how hypocritical can they get. bama should be 2 or 3rd bc they barely won.

ChazBuckeye's picture

OSU will not drop!  USC's win was HUGE and Baylor will be close but will not pass us.  Per several sites this morning including BCS GURU's.  It's all good and there's still time for others to lose.  GO Auburn and GO all opponents of Baylor.  Someone's gonna stop the Bears...I'd say OK. State next weekend in prime time;-)  Then all this will go away...well except the dreaded one lose team passing OSU BS;-)

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Thajinn's picture

I'm impressed that there is a few and growing that can see that Alabama is not that great of a team as ESPiN and cBS want you to beleive. And FSU win over Cruse is Impressive??? really? lol well I'm sure if your ESPiN you sell it as it is, with all that $$ in the ACC-Network. This stuff is a Joke, and I only wish BIG Network talking heads would not just fall in line with the others network talking heads,, and wake up and see the bussness of it all. It is about OverHyping = Higher Ratings = MORE $$$$

lamplighter's picture

To hell with all of them.  May their hammers be brittle!" "May their plows seize!" "May their cups be as unto a sieve!" "May their pigs be set upon by ravens and torne asunder leaving only bespecked bone and curdled fat for which the rats upon to feast!" 
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Bucksfan's picture

I think that makes it 13 or 14 teams that have jumped over the Buckeyes during this 22-0 winning streak.  At this point, I don't think you can be a rational human being and not cry BULLSHIT.

buckz4evr's picture

Everyone talks about the importance of SOS, but the rankings of these teams are very biased.  MSU should be in the top 10 with the No. 1 ranked defense and a pretty good offense. (I'm looking at you 'Bama). Wisconsin should be ranked much higher and possibly in the top ten if they wouldn't have gotten hosed earlier in the season.  So everything starts there.  If everyone gave us our due, I firmly believe we would be #2 in the BCS because we should have never dropped to #4 to begin with.

kmp10's picture

The B1G is undervalued IMO. Ohio State, MSU and Wisconsin are all outstanding teams (to varying degrees). Minnesota, Nebraska and Iowa are decent/bowl eligible teams. TTUN? I can't figure out that abomination, but without question they're bringing down the national perception of our league. Northwestern, always solid to good under Fitzgerald, is also a huge contributor to the conference's national beat down. PSU (for obvious and unusual reasons), like TTUN a traditional power, is further damaging the B1G's place in the national debate. In addition, the usual culprits; the Indiana's, Purdue's and Illinois', are now so bad they should be forced to join the MAC. If you look at the middle group, TTUN, NW and PSU, they are collectively what's driving the negative opinion of the B1G. The college football community expects Indiana, Purdue and Illinois to be bad... but TTUN and PSU? People don't care about PSU's scholarship issues or debilitating penalties, all they see is a traditionally great program being... meh. TTUN? With Hoke constantly running his big mouth about TTUN this, tradition that, TTUN men this, the TTUN way that, all while the on field product blows, well, its a turn off and its hurting, more than anything, the B1G's reputation. So, the six best teams in a 12 team league are, to varying degrees, solid/good to outstanding. How is this vastly different from the PAC12? I don't believe that it is. The PAC12 is a better league currently, but it's not THAT much better. Specific to the Big12 and ACC... the B1G is a better league IMO.
Oho State potentially being jumped is due to two things: the conference's reputation (undeserved), and the Buckeye's letting the worst team (along with Purdue) in a (perceived) terrible league give them a game. The 60-35 score does not tell the story of that game. The defense, yet again, looked suspect. The offense, a great unit and one I believe that would enable OSU to play with anyone, was off it's game. This was a 12 point game with 9 minutes left. When you play in a conference that's being lambasted by the national media, and when you allow a team that's lost its last TWENTY B1G games to make your defense look silly, well, being jumped in the BCS would not surprise me. The competition AND the defense are hurting Ohio State's reputation. All the national talking heads made some mention of the Ohio State defense (again) being suspect. That Illinois could do to this defense what it did... Is there a double standard in place that hurts Ohio State? Without question. Alabama did not look great last nite, but the worst of the SEC is perceived to be far better than the worst of the B1G. In addition, 'Bama's schedule allows them more leniency with the press when they whiff like they did against Mississippi St. Last week Alabama beat LSU. The last Ohio State victory? Purdue. The bottom line is this: OSU's offense is elite. OSU's defense is not. FSU and 'Bama have good defenses.They are more complete TEAMS than Ohio State seems to be. Baylor does not have a good defense... but could Ohio State outscore Baylor? I think, ultimately, Ohio State plays the PAC12 champion in the Rose Bowl, and the Buckeye's matchup very well with all of those potential teams (Stanford, Oregon, UCLA, ASU, USC).

WildBear Buckeye's picture

If the B1G is undervalued and every B1G bowl eligible team gets pushed down a bowl tier if OSU doesn't make the NCG (MSU won't get an at-large BCS bid as B1GCG loser), we should expect the B1G go undefeated in bowls, right?

jenks's picture

Well of course, being down by only 14 points is far superior to only being up by 12. And obviously winning by 13 not a struggle when being up by 12 and winning by 25 is?
I HATE LOGIC

iball's picture

Doesn't matter..a marquee win on the road at UM and another marquee primetime win against an ever improving Sparty in the B1G championship will be enough to top anything Baylor can do by the end of the year.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

Paul's picture

Blah Blah!
Blah Blah Blah Blah!!!!!
Blah Blah Blah!
Blah Blah Blah Blah!
Last week Stanford was going to pass us, CHECK
This week Baylor........
Next week it will be someone else if Baylor loses.
Who Cares????? 
10 and 0 with a chance for 11 and 0!
2002 wasn't that long ago and I remember the "EXPERTS"
saying Ohio State should decline the bid because they didn't belong there!!!
Good thing they ignored the noise, played one game at a time and took care of whoever their opponent was no matter what game they played!!!

There are winners and there are losers, and then there are "THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY"

FOOTBALL BUCKEYES!

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

If wisconsin continues to win as does Michigan state, we will be just fine. All of this is for not if fl state and Alabama win out. Just WIN.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Seattle Linga's picture

Nicely said Brown

bucknut3011's picture

Well...  It just happened in the AP.

ScarletNGrey01's picture

I posted this on another thread, but IF the buckeyes win the next two games and IF the bucks beat an excellent MSU team in the B1G Championship (who may be in the top 10 by the time that game rolls around) then they will be ranked ahead of Baylor regardless of the standings over the next couple of weeks.  The win over Wisconsin is a superior win to any game Baylor has (please don't point to Oklahoma) and the same for FSU (please don't point to Clemson, I'd put my money on Wisky) BUT we have to ... ugh ... root for the Gators in order to get into the top two.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

sbentz4's picture

Should we panic now?
 

buckeyefanatic's picture

@BCSGuru clearly named himself.
 

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