Gary Danielson: Targeting Rule Specifically Hurts SEC

October 23, 2013 at 7:00p    by DJ Byrnes    
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Goofy dude.

Ah, Gary Danielson:

The targeting rule specifically affects the SEC more than the other conferences. The SEC is the one conference that has elite defensive players and game-breaking athletes who have been measured and recognized through the NFL draft. This rule has defenses across the country playing more timid and is another way that the rest of college football is becoming more competitive with the SEC. As a rule, it needs to be changed.

Yes, Gary, this totally makes sense. The down year of the mighty SEC defense is because of the targeting rule. Nobody outside the SEC has "elite defensive players" or "game-breaking athletes." That's not a tired narrative at all.

Also related: just how much football outside the SEC does Gary Danielson watch?

 

Source: @AlligatorArmy

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SavannahGABuckeye48's picture

Wow...I know the SEC talk has been going on for a while and nothing should surprise me but I really am speechless after this...

cplunk's picture

This guy is the most ridiculous of all the SEC spouters.
In the A&M game last weekend- the one they lost- at one point he compared Manziell to Joe Montana in his prime. Joe. Montana. In his prime.
You know, the best quarterback in history at his best.
Danielson also drops "SEC" in every sentence he possibly can. He won't say a non-SEC team is blitzing off the corner when he can say they are blitzing off the corner with almost SEC-like speed.
He is my least favorite announcer, including Beth.

cajunbuckeye's picture

Beth Mowins > Gary Danielson

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

headina's picture

Wow. That is tough to accept as fact. Nevertheless, it is fact. 

GO BUCKS

FROMTHE18's picture

dont you mean Darry Ganielson?

BenW's picture

Damn, now someone has to go tell the 22 non-SEC defensive players drafted in the first 2 rounds last year that they weren't any good in college.
Not it!

buckeyejonross's picture

No, you see they got to lead with their helmets last year, it's what made them better. Makes total sense.

"You might as well appeal against a thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war. War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over." -William T., Battle of Atlanta, B1G.

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Dear University of SEC and all its pimps/fans/blowhards,
Please secede now.  It's like history repeating itself:

  • state vs federal power = conference unity/coattail riding vs individual schools pride.
  • economic/social differences in the north south = coaches pay and espn $$$ and northern football sucks while university of sec rules the world.  Propaganda abound.
  • Savery vs non slavery = oversigning and exploiting players vs not operating in the gray and honoring scholarships.
  • Growth of the abolition movement = SEC does not even care about pretending to abide by NCAA rules anymore.  They face no punishment and no scrutiny.  Everyone else gets wildly inconsistent penalties, much raking and besmurching.
  • The election of Abraham Lincoln = the selection of Jeff Long from Arkansas to head the playoff committee.
razrback16's picture

It's all good Gary -- your SEC conference still has oversigning and the NCAA in their pocket to overlook their salaried roster -- both of those items should help your teams keep a stranglehold on their competitive advantage.
 

Hovenaut's picture

Turn in your B1G (by way of Purdue) card, Gary.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

unholy bucknut's picture

Sad that a guy this ignorant is allowed to even voice his opinion in the media.

Kernfan's picture

Its more like the limits on oversigning are catching up with the SEC.  The Redskins just had their safety suspended for two games for similar hits (see article)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/10/21/nfl-e...
 
I didn't see any difference between what the Roby and the U Florida got ejected for and what the Redskin got suspended for, so I googled around and found an interview from August with the NFL VP for officials.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000226289/printable/qa-with-dean-bl...
"College football also will debut a controversial rule this year. What do you think of the NCAA's new targeting rule that will eject players if they target an opponent?
I think it's a step in the right direction. They always have had that rule. It's just that the ejection part of it is new. And now that penalty is subject to replay review. For the NCAA, the standard of player safety is a No. 1 priority, and they have made it a key topic of discussion.
Do you think the NFL would ever go as far as adding a targeting rule?
I think the biggest difference between the NFL game and the college game in this regard is that we always have had the ability to eject or suspend players. Colleges didn't have that before. College football needs to take that next step. In the fine process, certainly we can do that because our players are professionals. However, colleges are taking a step in the right direction."
So I guess all those game changing SEC athletes should be happy since they will have to get used to not targeting when they get to the NFL.

Poe McKnoe's picture

Also,

CBS college football analyst Gary Danielson believes No. 19 Florida is "the most underrated team in the country right now."
Don't be fooled by a mistake-filled 21-16 loss at Miami or an offense that has scored just 40 points in two games, warns Danielson, who has called SEC games since 2006.
"They are an elite team that turned the ball over," Danielson said in a notes package released by the network. "That can happen to any team in any football game.

Guy obviously knows what he's talking about.
 

Deadly Nuts's picture

Haha... This dude is an absolute tool. One thing about being elite is that you don't turn the ball over!

LEBRON

Unky Buck's picture

That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Anyone with clear vision can see that Florida was about 50 spots higher than it should be ranked. Their offense is utterly putrid and the defense is prone to huge mental lapses...but yeah, they're elite.

...

albinomosquito's picture

if they hadn't made so many mistakes, and done such a poor job playing football, and won every game, they would be considered an elite team..
 
cant argue that logic...

Dean's picture

This attitude must be what resulted in his career 81:78 TDs to interceptions ratio.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaniGa00.htm

buckeyejonross's picture

More alarming is the amount of Alligator Army followers that agreed with the tweet. It's like a different world down there.

"You might as well appeal against a thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war. War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over." -William T., Battle of Atlanta, B1G.

ScarletNGrey01's picture

You expect that kind of self-serving, logic impaired, biased, cliche comment from a drunken fan, but from a so-called analyst?  Sad.
Kinda interesting read "Why SEC Isn't As Great In Football As You Think":
http://www.thepostgame.com/commentary/201208/better-without-em-northern-...

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

KingsRite's picture

The crap coming out of these SEC homers mouths would make a Septic Tank jealous...SMH

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

jeremytwoface's picture

The first man gets the Oyster, the second man gets the shell.

Poison nuts's picture

Fun fact: I just found out recently that Gary Danielson lives in my city & that an acquaintance of mine is his personal statistician. He travels to all the games with him & feeds him all the stats he spits out during broadcasts...six degrees & all. 
BTW, having spoke with a number of people that know Mr. Danielson recently, they all seem to be in agreement that he is indeed, a complete pud whacker.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Brutus's picture

Interesting.  Let me continue with this.  You know Danielson's assistant.  Danielson's assistant works with Danielson. Danielson does broadcasts with Vern Lundquist. Lundquist was in Happy Gilmore with Adam Sandler.  Sandler was in Anger Management with Jack Nicholson. Nicholson was in A Few Good Men with Kevin Bacon.
BOOM!

albinomosquito's picture

+1 for your use of "pud whacker"
 
i haven't heard that since jr high...

causeicouldntgo43's picture

I believe the correct usage per the AP style book is "pud pounder".......

Maffro's picture

Gary Danielson has become such a blowhard for the SEC that he doesn't even try to hide it with comments like this. I remember during a LSU-Ole Miss game last year, he was quite openly rooting for LSU to win the game -- his exact words were "the SEC NEEDS this" -- and lamenting whenever the Rebels did anything good. Add to the fact that he's completely unlistenable when calling a game featuring a Heisman candidate (such as Newton or Manziel).
He, more than any other pundit, pisses me off the most because he's honestly one of the few analysts who actually knows what's going on (a fact magnified by how much of a complete idiot Verne Lundquist is) and does a fantastic job breaking down plays, but you rarely ever see it because he's too busy slurping up whatever SEC team is playing.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Verne.... an idiot... HA!

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Michael Citro's picture

When will it be a non-SEC player's chance to FINALLY play in the NFL? Will it happen one day?

weirdscience's picture

Maybe one of Urban's players at Ohio State...but we all know he's running an SEC-style operation in Columbus, so that doesn't really count.
                               #sarcasmcrankedto11

Maestro's picture

Gary and Verne play on a loop in hell.

vacuuming sucks

Haybucks's picture

ugh, that would be a fitting definition of hell.

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

BuckeyeFanInBoulder's picture

At least Yahoo (what kind of alternate universe are we in this week???) is telling it straight up: A&M, Mizzou transition helps bust one SEC myth

jenks's picture

I think I saw another headline basically questioning how good the SEC is this year. Didn't read it, but there were definitely 2+ links regarding SEC mediocrity this year on the CFB homepage. Yahoo was falling out of favor for me, but this is helping.

weirdscience's picture

(Sarcasm font) Of course we all know that none of these silly player protection rules exist in the NFL. SEC PLAYS NFL-STYLE DEFENSE! TARGETING RULE NOT FAIR TO SEC! 

40 Degrees North's picture

I still remember Danielson on ABC and ESPN. I always believed he was a solid analyst there. Since his move to CBS, he is much different.

EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Amen. When I heard people dogging him last year, after having not listened to him since his ABC days, I was a little surprised. After watching a couple of SEC games, though, I agree wholeheartedly with the consensus. He spews company-line BS.

Chief B1G Dump's picture

He was on their big game crew with my man Jack Arute and then Musberger too...
What happened to Jack Arute?

Haybucks's picture

Don't hold your breath waiting for Gary to quit.
Eight more years until retirement.

"I grew up in a small house in Detroit and my biggest goal was I wanted a garage attached to my house," Danielson said. "I thought that would be the neatest thing. I thought if I could ever buy a house with an attached garage, I would have it made. When I played in the NFL, I worked every offseason in another job, and I've worked in my career as a broadcaster. My goal was to retire at 55. I saved money, I worked hard, and ironically, when I turned 55, my new goal became to last until I'm 70. So I have been working as hard as I can to stay on top of the game. Can I make it to 70? I think I can accomplish it."

 
 

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Georgia and LSU must have had 50 players ejected for targeting between them, because I didn't see a damn bit of even mediocre defense played in that game, much less any that was elite.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

ronhack's picture

Right now theirs a couple hundred thousand southerners screaming that the NCAA is out to get them.sighting Gary Danielson as gospel. Those are the dumbasses that drank jim jones kool aid. PLEASE PEOPLE USE YOUR BRAINS FOR MORE THAN HOLDING YOUR TEAMS HAT UPON YOUR DOMES!

Ron hack

WildBear Buckeye's picture

It's almost like they have some kind of chip on their shoulder ...

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Yawn. Have you people heard of this "trolling" concept? The solution is always to starve the trolls.

CentralFLBuckeye's picture

WTFE, so tired of this SEC this and SEC that!

Denster's picture

Roll Tide.

"It's a double-barreled pistol that fires hard work and victory..."

northcampus's picture

You can bet Gary believes the SEC bum fight matching up Kentucky vs. Miss State tonight is must-see TV featuring 'elite' defenses and 'NFL ready' skill players.