Miami Will Lose Nine Scholarships, Avoid Bowl Ban

October 22, 2013 at 9:07a    by Jason Priestas    
74 Comments
Nevin Shapiro, lmao.

Nearly 19 weeks after Miami met with the NCAA Committee on Infractions and more than two years after booster Nevin Shapiro leveled money and stripper-filled allegations at the program, Miami knows its fate.

According to WQAM in Miami and ESPN's Joe Schad, the NCAA's punishment for Miami will amount to nine scholarship losses over three years (three per season), but the team will avoid any sort of postseason ban.

Remember kids, always self-impose a bowl ban when given the chance. TaxSlayer.com bowl beckoning or not.

You can read the full NCAA report on Miami here.

Source: @SportsCenter

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jedkat's picture

"sorry, we're not sorry"
~Miami

“The teams that don’t respect their coaches and don’t trust their coaches are the teams that go .500"
~Zach Boren

hodge's picture

With regard to the sanctions, color me unsurprised.
With regard to self-imposing a bowl ban, I agree with what Gee said: we were going to get hit with a ban by the NCAA, regardless of whether we self-imposed one or not.  Our heads were on the chopping block, and the fake outrage boners had reached critical mass -- the pitchfork-wielding, rage-boner-sporting masses needed that pound of flesh.
Even if that pound of flesh was completely unprecendented.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I agree. The Miami investigation was supposedly "botched" and the NCAA is in a weaker position now than it was two years ago. I don't believe for a second that, if Ohio State had self-imposed a bowl ban midway through the crappy 6-6 regular season in 2011, that the NCAA would have called it a day. The Ohio State punishment came down during a brief period when Emmert was the new badass sheriff in town.

AeroBuckeye2001's picture

Totally agree with you here, there was a brief period where the NCAA was dropping the hammer on everyone. Unfortunately, we caught the tail end of it.

The Ohio State University Class of 2001
BS Aero & Astronautical Engineering

zacisone's picture

Totally agree. The ncaa needs to go away. Poof!

Zacisone

BuckGnome's picture

We don't know what would have happened had we self-imposed a bowl ban in 2011. 
The thing is, we had absolutely nothing to lose by doing so.  It's likely self-imposing a bowl ban would not have helped us avoid one in 2012.  Still, it would it wouldn't have hurt us toward that end.
I never bought Gee and Smith's post-NCAA-smackdown spin that we would have been hit just as hard if not harder had we self imposed.  Given all the reassurances we had from those two about how no ban was coming, their words smacked of face-saving drivel once the hammer fell.
/deadhorsebeating

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I don't understand this logic of "if we self imposed a bowl ban in 2011, the NCAA would still have given us a bowl ban in 2012".  OK, so we didn't self impose and got hit with a 1 year ban.  So if we did self impose, we'd effectively get 2 years?  That kind of defeats the whole purpose of self imposing.  The NCAA would think we'd deserve 2 years of ban...so if they thought that, why didn't they just give that to us? 
Miami self imposed 2 years of bans.  And guess what - they didn't get any more.  They both would've been meh bowls that they skipped.  So what?  The fans might think that the Gator Bowl doesn't mean much, but for the program, it's still a bowl game with money to be made.  For the players, it's still a game to play.

Class of 2010.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

The severity of NCAA penalties is driven to a considerable extent by the "political" climate and other subjective factors at the moment that the sanctions committee is making the decision(s). You cannot assume that because Ohio State ultimately received a one-year bowl ban that that was always going to be the case.
If Ohio State had self-imposed a bowl midway through the crappy 2011 season, we don't know for sure if the NCAA would have been content with it, or not. We do know for sure, though, that the media would have run two weeks of stories on how Ohio State's "bogus gesture" was a charade designed to weasel out of its rightful punishment, blah blah blah. And then it would have been up to the infractions committee to decide if that one-year bowl ban were sufficient. They would not have been making that decision in a political vacuum, though.

RedQueenRace's picture

The fans might think that the Gator Bowl doesn't mean much, but for the program, it's still a bowl game with money to be made.  For the players, it's still a game to play.

 
And the additional practices, which the coaches value highly.

jeremytwoface's picture

Oh NCAA... You so funny.

The first man gets the Oyster, the second man gets the shell.

RedStorm45's picture

Donna Shalala > Gene Smith

hodge's picture

Shalala had a lot more time to capitulate before the NCAA, as well as the NCAA completely botching the investigation.  I'm not saying that Gene was a knight in shining armor for us, but the NCAA did about everything they damn well could to de-legitimize their investigation and subsequent sanctions.

jeremytwoface's picture

Wait, Shalala is a real name????
 
Sounds like lyrics to a Christmas song.

The first man gets the Oyster, the second man gets the shell.

RBuck's picture

More like Do-Wop.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

jeremytwoface's picture

That too.
 
I was thinking "Deck the halls with boughs of holly. Shalala la la, lala la la."

The first man gets the Oyster, the second man gets the shell.

hail2victors9's picture

Or like a Counting Crows song...
"Mr. Jones"

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

Oldschoolbuck's picture

I thought a shalala was an Irish cane...?

Earle's picture

I thought is was a lyric from an Irish Van...

 
 

Jonnferrell's picture

I always liked that song, but now I will think of "Donna Shalala whenever I hear, "She dances while her father plays guitar. . ."  Thanks for ruining that one for me!  LOL.
 

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

Jack Fu's picture

That's a great point about the NCAA screwing up the investigation. That gave Miami and Shalala a lot more leverage than OSU ever had.

OSUStu's picture

Smith was also operating on completely different assumptions about NCAA precedents at the time.  It is now widely known that an NCAA precedent is no precedent at all.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

RedStorm45's picture

The precedent of being a repeat offender?

Jack Fu's picture

As a follow-up, Brian from MGoBlog agrees:

Well, that was inevitable. Miami gets three scholarships docked for the next three years. No bowl ban, various other minor penalties. After the NCAA screwed up that investigation harder than Nevin Shapiro screwed his ponzi investors, this was always going to be a wrist-slap compromise that wouldn't send Miami to the appeal/sue route, and lo, it is so. QED: the NCAA put together a record-shattering 102-page document to mildly annoy a program they savage as being basically without compliance in the report.

FROMTHE18's picture

Over the next decade, with all that has already been and all that is left to be exposed, the NCAA may completely dissolve and all of these bs investigations/sanctions as well as much of the rule-breaking that gets ignored (lookin at you, SEC) will paint this era as one of the more corrupt eras in sports. I find it hard to believe anything the NCAA says or does as genuine. IMO, Miami got lucky and benefited from their self-imposed bans, but this situation sounded and looked a lot like SMU, and we all know what happened there. No consistency, no fairness: the NCAA.

Dr. House's picture

Congrats NCAA for showing the world again how much of a wishywashy  spineless twits you guys are 

brandonbauer87's picture

I don't really agree with it but Miami did this correctly. They self-imposed the bowl ban. The quality of bowls that they avoided is trivial. The NCAA screwed this up by letting it drag out. It gave Miami plenty of time to put the NCAA between a rock and a hard place. A two year bowl ban handed out two years ago would have seemed like stiff punishment. 

BoFuquel's picture

Every case that is settled makes think more and more, we wuz the victims of an inside job. GO BUCKS!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Michael Citro's picture

Fits the NCAA punishment chart.

 

ScarletGray43157's picture

Man, I'd definitely upvote that chart if I could.  Classic.  

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

osu07asu10's picture

Seriously, open up voting for staff members (this comment at least)....this is probably the greatest paint shop output ever.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Buckeye419er's picture

The sanction hourglass. You're either in it, or you're not. It's just that simple.

jkrk's picture

For the love of Craig James, you need a Sanctions dot over the SMU campus.

Michael Citro's picture

It's a modern chart. SMU was 25+ years ago.

Oyster's picture

Earle is probably one of the only posters on here that remembers what happened without looking it up.

Earle's picture

I remember Craig James taking carries away from Eric Dickerson when he wasn't offing working girls.

Earle's picture

And I'll bet the person who upvoted Oyster's comment that he is older than I am.

Oyster's picture

In all fairness, I did say 'probably'...

RedStorm45's picture

No one will probably see this because the post is no longer on the front page, but that line is dangerously close to Chapel Hill, no?

JasonBuck's picture

Here is what I know...if there was EVER a time for a well off booster to start giving kids money, strippers, and anything else they want to come to a school NOW IS THE TIME.  If all they get is a one year (self imposed) bowl ban and only lose 9 scholly's.....the SEC is clapping.....and I bet a couple of thousand just got slipped to a recruit today....the risk is now worth the reward given the NCAA's apparently lack of concern given all the recent negativity towards it....

DJ Byrnes's picture

The times have changed around the NCAA. It sucks Ohio State was the last to catch the fade on its way out the door, but USC probably has more right to be pissed.

I wrote about it here when it happened: there was no reason for Gene Smith to send a 6-6 team to the TaxSlayer.com bowl. Absolute delusion.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

SilverState's picture

I believe he said it was for the Seniors who had nothing to do with the situation.

BuckGnome's picture

Nevermind the several seniors that contributed greatly to the predicament we were in.

OSUStu's picture

I guess it was better to punish the seniors last year.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

OurHonorDefend09's picture

Then he owes John Simon one huge apology for munsoning him so hard. 

Don't give up... Don't ever give up.

BuckGnome's picture

DJ I could not agree with you more.  I'd up vote your comment a million times if I could.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Truth DJ, truth.

Class of 2010.

acBuckeye's picture

Not surprised at all. Not surprised that Miami got off the hook. Not surprised the NCAA effed up the investigation b/c of their incompetence. And not surprised that the NCAA didn't try to do more, b/c let's be honest, their power is limited. And when you take an organization with limited power and add to that a compromised investigation, this is the result you get, no matter what the offending party (Miami) was charged with.
It's been said before, but it bears repeating...... The reason why OSU got nailed was b/c of the timing of all of it. The NCAA needed a sacrificial lamb. It was Tatgate + DiGeronimo. It was before the news at State Penn broke. It was before the news at Miami broke. The NCAA got blasted for nailing USC, then swung and whiffed on UNC. They needed something to hang their hats on..... oh how convenient that Ohio State happens to be the ones caught breaking rules during this very volatile time.
I don't think there is one person in the country who takes anything the NCAA does or says seriously anymore. They will be defunct soon, and i can't wait. The Haves will split from the Have-Nots and form their own governing body. One that actually garners respect.

Notthatguy's picture

Knew this was gonna happen. Not gonna waste any more energy on it...

Mention Michigan in this house and I'll smack you so hard you'll wish it was two months later so the pain will go away...

rampageripster's picture

I'm actually not too upset by this.  If the NCAA had given them a 2 year bowl ban and a loss of 9 schollies right off the bat, it would have been looked at as pretty stiff punishment.  In reality, it was the NCAA's screw-up of the investigation that makes this all look wacky.

Cause I couldn't go for three

brandonbauer87's picture

I think we're on the exact same page on this. 

1MechEng's picture

Who gets to punish the NCAA for screwing up the investigation?!

NH-IO's picture

In other news, the NCAA officially declares itself a complete joke.

Firmthyfriendship's picture

Dennis Green chimed in on the NCAA ruling...

Seabass1974's picture

I need to step away from the keyboard.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

Matt F's picture

It's just money, coke and hookers. I mean come on, guys.

FLAMikey's picture

you forgot abortions......

droessl's picture

Hey NCAA, your friends are calling you to join them:

Haybucks's picture

Mark Emmert....

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

jeremytwoface's picture

Miami may only provide a prospect on unofficial visits complementary tickets for one home game during the 2014-15 and 2015-16 seasons.

WHAT!??! This is an outrage!!!! That's way too harsh NCAA!!!

The first man gets the Oyster, the second man gets the shell.

OSUStu's picture

Member institutions should never allow the governing body to have rules that is unable to effectively to investigate or enforce with consistency and uniformity.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

cplunk's picture

Once they gave North Carolina a pass on straight up academic fraud, I stopped caring too much about what the NCAA gives or doesn't give. You'd figure academic fraud would be the one thing that organization should find intolerable, but no.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Great point!
If we judged the wrongness of cfb shenanigans based on how much damage they've done to the diplomas that are framed and hung up in offices . . . then, the UNC academic fraud might be one of the worst examples in recent years/decades.

WiliestBuckeye's picture

This is not surprising. At all. Its not even worth a story anymore when the NCAA does something stupid, its just an everyday occurrence.

"Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment."

Maffro's picture

The Sapp/Irvin "U Mad" is quite literally the greatest GIF in history.

cinserious's picture

Miami told Emmert if he dosn't back off, he's going to get bashed in the head with a Shalala!

Gone ham, be back soon...

popeurban's picture

One player (Reggie Bush) gets USC a 30 Scholarship loss.
118 players at Miami gets Da U a 9 Scholarship loss.
We all know what selling things and not telling the truth gets you.
 
What a joke...

cinserious's picture

Seems to me all the teams within the SEC footprint get handled with kid gloves while all others get the HAMMER.
EDIT: Citro's 'punishment' chart tells the whole story.

Gone ham, be back soon...

rlyle6's picture

I think about the recent scandals at schools like USC, OSU, Oregon, Penn St., UNC, and Miami and the only institution that seems to lack "institutional control" is the NCAA itself. Their system of determining punishment seems to defy any kind of reason or logic. My solution? The death penalty.