The Dubgate Doesn't Care About Style Points

By Jason Priestas on October 19, 2013 at 6:00a

Every October, fans of undefeated teams begin to fret about the possibility of their team going undefeated, yet being kept out of the national championship game because a handful of other teams managed to go unbeaten as well.

Never mind that going unbeaten is incredibly difficult for any team to do in any given season, regardless of favorable schedule – in the last 13 seasons, only 14 FBS teams have managed to go undefeated – the thought of winning out only to be passed over for the BCS Championship Game is enough to keep fans with short memories and poor math skills up at night.

No. 8 Louisville's stunning collapse to UCF last night is just the latest reminder that your team may not look great every Saturday, and certainly won't pile up 12 weeks worth of style points, but as long as they can manage to win, they'll remain in the conversation. Eventually, that conversation narrows to two teams and if your team was fortunate enough to win all of its games, there's no way that team will be kept on the outside looking in (assuming the team is from a power conference).

Just win, dammit.


Ohio State's defensive front, which has been dominating for much of the season, welcomes Tommy Schutt back in action today. Schutt, you'll remember, broke his foot in late August, so this will be the first action of the season for the sophomore from suburban Chicago.


With a win against Iowa today, the current Ohio State winning streak will tie two others for second on the school's all-time list. Here's a look at the top five streaks as of right now (with streak-buster):

22 – 1967-69 (at Michigan, 24-12)
19 – 2005-06 (vs Florida, 41-14)
19 – 2002-03 (at Wisconsin, 17-10)
18 – 2012-13 (current)
17 – 1915-17 (tied Auburn, 0-0)

Two takeaways from this. First, I feel like we as staff and you guys as readers are pretty good about acknowledging this, but we're living in the golden age of Ohio State football. The Buckeyes are in the midst of their 124th season on the gridiron and have a pedigree to rival any program in the country. To think that three of the school's four-longest winning streaks have taken place in the last decade is nuts, frankly.

Second, we're in for a bit of heartbreak sooner or later. I'm sure many of you remember where you were for the loss to Meyer and his Gators as well as Lee Evans' 79-yard bomb over Chris Gamble in Madison. Boomers can just as easily rattle off where they were when Michigan, under new head coach Bo Schembechler, beat Woody's boys in Ann Arbor in late 1969.

We remember these details because streak-killers are traumatic affairs. Let's enjoy this ride while we can.


Think the SEC is eager for the launch of the SEC Network? A year from now, a game featuring two ranked teams, like the one pitting No. 22 Florida against No. 14 Missouri, will be nationally televised. For now, we're stuck tuning in over the internet.

In other early games, banged-up Georgia tries to right the ship against Vandy – ditto for Northwestern, welcoming Minnesota, Purdue in East Lansing is your BTN nooner, and South Carolina at Tennessee will be on ESPN.

The full lineup of early games:

Kickoff (ET) Matchup TV Internet Favorite
12:00 p.m. No. 15 Georgia at Vanderbilt CBS CBS Video UGA (-7)
12:00 p.m. Minnesota at Northwestern ESPN2 WatchESPN NU (-12)
12: 00 p.m. Purdue at Michigan State BTN BTN2GO MSU (-28)
12:00 p.m. No. 11 South Carolina at Tennessee ESPN WatchESPN SCAR (-7.5)
12:00 p.m. TCU at No. 21 Oklahoma State FOX OKST (-7.5)
12:00 p.m. No. 16 Texas Tech at West Virginia FS1 TT (-5)
12:00 p.m. UConn at Cincinnati ESPNU WatchESPN UC (-15)
12:21 p.m. No. 22 Florida at No. 14 Missouri (LOL) WatchESPN UF (-3)

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cplunk's picture

Florida is ranked on name alone. That team is a putrid pile. They play horrible football. I'd take UCF over them in a heartbeat, and I'd give points to do it.

buckguyfan1's picture

It's all that Urban guys fault!

Poison nuts's picture

Haha - it's funny, & I know it's a joke but the truth is that UF is just a slightly above average team & there is no more blaming Urban. 3 years into being a coach at any given school, the ship is yours & yours alone. 

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

VestedInterest's picture

Florida does have the #3 defense in the country so they do play a 'lil bit, but that offense is abysmal.

gwalther's picture

They're Michigan State South.

Class of 2008

harleymanjax's picture

Lets hope they don't match up Florida vs Mich St in a bowl game.......yikes!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

MN Buckeye's picture

I agree, the style points don't matter. I want our team to execute, and if they do the style points might be there, but the best thing about being 6-0 . . . 

Menexenus's picture

Holy Crap, are you kidding me?  I turned that game off when Louisville went up 28 - 7.  As I did so, I said the words, "Louisville has this one in the bag.  It's pretty apparent who the better team is."
So, just for future reference, the next time I'm arguing with you about something related to college football, just remind me that I'm a complete idiot and have no idea what I'm talking about.  Thanks.

Real fans stay for Carmen.

AndyVance's picture

Note to self...

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Yes, but you're a Buckeye fan on the best Buckeye site - so you have that going for you!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

dlb72osu's picture

Good article. Only a very few select teams can cite the winning seasons we have experienced with the Buckeyes. There have been some bitter pills to swallow every once in awhile, however the losing seasons have been very few.
These last 18 games have been a gift and should be looked upon accordingly. But for now, on to 19... 

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.

- Invictus

Haybucks's picture

Great to have Tommy Schutt back!  His return will really shut down the run game.

If the world comes to an end, I want to be in Cincinnati. Everything comes there ten years later. -  Mark Twain


TMac's picture

I don't believe Auburn in '04 was on probation....they just finished 3rd in the BCS rankings, but that was the only time being undefeated from a major conference wasn't enough to get into the game

ONE Not Done!

Jason Priestas's picture

You're right, thanks. Got that team confused with the '93 team.

Hovenaut's picture

In for number 19, ready to roll.

These are great days we're livin' bros....Go Buckeyes.

Buckeye5000's picture

You are right these are great days for Buckeye fans. My brothers despite their age (50's) are new to watching and following the Bucks. They started at the beginning of the Tressel era. They were lucky they didn't have to go through the Bruce firing and the 2-10-1 era.
But they also missed some of the very best stuff from the Woody days. 

2014 Undisputed National Champions!

RBuck's picture

Oh nooos! You stole my avatar.

Long live the southend.

Buckeye5000's picture

I know this is kind of off topic to a point but...
I know all Bucks fans remember the disasterous night when FL. stopped our 19 game winning streak in the NC game. I live in Louisiana now, and have since 2001. I invited my in-laws (big LSU fans) over to watch the game and quite a few obliged due to the free drinks, food, and them knowing I am a big OSU fan. When Ted Ginn ran back the opening kickoff for the TD I was screaming at the top of my lungs from mid field all the way to the endzone. Of course everyone knows the rest and it was a humbling experience for me and no one said anything except "sorry your team lost"...but the next year was completely different.
The loss to FL. was a nightmare for all us Devoted Buckeye fans but for me the next year was much worse. In 2007 my Mother and Father in-law invited me, all the relatives, and it seemed everyone in the small town we live in over for the game. I made a point of telling everyone who would listen that I didn't think OSU was a NC caliber team and that I thought LSU would win. The game was, as you can imagine, pure hell with roughly 150 "backwoods southern rednecks" rubbing it in at every opportunity. I don't mind a good ribbing and am not a sore loser but some things cross the line when people talk about your heritage, where you were raised and throw out racial slurs. 
I know the loss to FL. was bad and the one most Bucks fans point to...but for me the loss to LSU is the one I still hear about till this day. And of course they are not shy about giving their opinion that this years OSU team would be (in their eyes) the 7th or 8th best team in the SEC. 

2014 Undisputed National Champions!

BuckeyeFreak4844's picture

I tell them this
Two tears in a Bucket.....

Michigan Sucks!

FROMTHE18's picture

Today is going to be a heck of a chellenge. Hope our boys are up to it physically, Iowa's D is one tough SOB.

BuckeyeFreak4844's picture

Lets Do this Bullets need to be flying and Urban Warfare in full effect!!!!  Time for number 19!!!!

Michigan Sucks!

JLP36's picture

I am not superstitious, but as I sit here wearing my lucky hat it seems wise to wait to check on the status of any streaks until after celebrating a win in the bowl game.


MichiganBuckeye222's picture

EVEN IF the Buckeyes win every game, there is talk that they will be overtaken by a 1 loss SEC, ACC and PAC-12 team.  While in the past, winning out was rare and meant an almost automatic entry into the BCSNCG, I think the pollsters (and the computers) will chose the 1 loss teams from other conferences.

Representing the Buckeyes in the Mitten State since 1987.


45has2's picture

Louisville just was not Strong enough.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

Hovenaut's picture

I was somewhat O'Leary about them myself.

stevebelliseeya's picture

Just Water under the Bridge now...

"We are eternal. All this pain is an illusion." - Tool

harleymanjax's picture

Except for that one fumble recovery for a TD, they just weren't Quick enough......

"Because I couldn't go for 3"


Don't start a thread about it.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

buckeyedude's picture

I would not argue that this definitely a "golden era" of Buckeye football. But I would also say that I think there is no reason to think that it should come to an end any time soon. As long as UFM is in C-bus, I have a pretty good feeling the Buckeyes are going to be the class of the B1G. 
I personally think the late 70s and 80s were very average. And say what you want about Cooper's success vs. TTUN, the man brought OSU back to national prominence in the 90s.



Buckataltitude's picture

The Florida - Mizzou game is on here in Colorado. Well they have let Maty sling it right off the bat (I know it has only been 2 passes). I hope he takes down the gators.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Speaking of style points and karma - Kyle Kalis got his fat ass benched!!!  BWWWAAA HAAA HAAAA!!!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

GoBucks10's picture

Down goes northwestern

"Because I couldn't go for three."  - Woody Hayes

Jonnferrell's picture

And all the Buckeyes do is win, baby.  That's it for Iowa.

"I miss Brady Hoke."

osuguy2008's picture

great find on the tim fox back flip

GR8TBUCKS's picture

Umm...?  Okay now I get it, it was being played in reverse, right?