The Worst Article You Will Read on Ohio State's 52-34 Win Over Cal

By DJ Byrnes on September 15, 2013 at 2:59p

Al Saracevic, an Ohio Native and of, has undoubtedly typed the worst article you will read in the aftermath of Ohio State's 52-34 win over California. Here's just a snippet:

It's a long way from Columbus, Ohio, to Berkeley. And we speak in terms of geography and philosophy.

Columbus is home to a famous football team that happens to be affiliated with a university. Berkeley is home to a famous university that also fields a football team.

In a lot of ways, it's that simple. Priorities are everything. And those priorities were on full display in Strawberry Canyon on Saturday.

He then goes on to call for California to spend more money on a defensive coordinator: 

About the only thing one can say on the football front would be this: Coach Dykes needs to stop drawing up fancy new plays on his cocktail napkins and spend a little time on defense. His Louisiana Tech team fielded the worst defense in the nation last year. His first Cal team isn't much better. We know the defense has sustained great injury this season, but spend the money on a top-shelf defensive coordinator, Sonny. Put the "D" back in Dykes.

Yes, that's it. Sonny Dykes isn't an offensive genius; he's just some drunk guy at a bar scribbling plays on cocktail napkins. (Do you want to know somebody is insufferable? They use the word "cocktail.") CALIFORNIA CARES ABOUT MORE THAN FOOTBALL! BUT THEY NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR TO PUT THE D BACK INTO DYKES! 

This article is so dumb (Ohio State is a world renowned university with a world-caliber football program — they're not mutually exclusive), I'm in need of a "cocktail." Congratulations on the mouse-clicks, Al. 


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bleedscarletpissmaize's picture

That article is fuggin dumb.

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Yeah it is...what does it say about this guy's life that he poopoos Cal's football priorities yet his job(?) is writing about it.
Also, I say this about a lot of scUM comments but this artice 1000% reminds me of the smug South Park episode where they fart into their wine glasses then sniff it.


He will be on the next flight to Bristol, CT to interview for an open haters position at Espin...


CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

He's just sore because our offense mopped up the field with their defense.  His arrogance comes through when he makes comments to imply that CAL is a much better place because they focus on learning.  However, then he rips apart the D-coordinator because they couldn't stop anyone.  Just a sore loser.  He needs to just admit that they got beat by a better team.  It all boils down to recruiting as well.  You can have the best coach drawing up the best defenses, but if you don't have the guys to run it it won't matter.  CAL's D is not there yet.  They have some talent on O.  Their young QB is very good.  IF they want to compete in the PAC12 they have to recruit better. 

jvd253's picture

Using his reasoning, does this mean that Cal will be losing to Stanford both in football and in life?

"A guy from Ohio can make it in life if he works hard enough." - Wayne Woodrow Hayes

addman1405's picture

I pretty much let every beat writer, Ohio newspaper and Reddit know of this article. As an tOSU graduate, this angers me for a couple of reasons:
1. You gave away tickets to this game (I know I hear on the radio that you did) and yet, we still had to sell out your stadium for this game. You are welcome.
2. I was sitting in Section N. (Part of the Giant mass of Scarlet and Gray in the South End zone) We were OVERLY polite to Cal fans for being such gracious hosts. This was a game that was priced JUST right for any bay area Buckeye fans to come watch our beloved football team. Any other time we are playing in a bowl game and the tickets are far too expensive to bring the rugrats along to watch.
In conclusion, we love our beloved buckeyes and school. There is no reason to get nasty and try and smear us for this. Get off that dusty throne you are sitting on and put a better product on the field. That way, you don't have to resort to this tactic whenever a powerful football team comes in and owns your stadium.

CUBS's picture

Stanford is a prime example of a big time academic institution and a heightened focus on excellence in athletics. Cal is a great school but this guy is off his rocker if he thinks the university doesnt want premier athletics programs. 

Denny's picture

(says the guy with a jNWU logo as his avatar lol)


Hovenaut's picture

If football isn't the priority, why write about it Al?

Oh, I get it.....mouseclicks.

Saracevic, check. He sure sounds like he fits right in with the rest of the anti-Ohio State crowd.

And a Buckeye State native to boot.....guess he'll start singing Brady Hoke's praises next.

bigbadbuck's picture

From the sounds of Mr Saracevic's passive aggressive article I can only conclude one of two things has happened, either he lost a bet yesterday, missed his nap or possibly both. Here's your binky Al.

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OSU069's picture

Stupidest thing I've ever read. Cal has better academics but Ohio State has decent academics as well.

BKshepherd's picture

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Scott's picture

Please not here, Shepherd.

Class of 2008

ChicagoBuckeye33's picture

That man undoubtedly wears Birkenstocks.  What a pretentious, callous person.


Does anyone know if this goober is a TTUN fan? That would explain a lot, especially if he's an Ohio native.

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Poison nuts's picture

He did say "like Michigan & Cal" when talking about what an academically inferior school OSU is & the schools they wish they could be more like...

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Poison nuts's picture

Writer from Ohio moves to California....
Becomes smug & believes he's now better than those still dumb enough to stay in Ohio...
Knows the power of the OSU fan base...
Writes story about how great Cal is & how OSU is nothing more than a football factory with zero academic prowess - this nullifying an OSU victory in his mind...
Gets a million clicks...
Gets a raise...forgets to thank us dumb OSU fans for his newfound semi-celebrity...
Disappears back into relative obscurity as most hacks tend to do.

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

kmp10's picture

It took me many years to learn this: just because someone says (writes) something doesn't make it true.... and this: when one talks down to another the person doing the talking is often trying to convince oneself of his/her own superiority. In other words, this guy has an inferior self opinion and is attacking Ohio State academically in order to make himself feel better. Many years ago he went all the way to San Francisco to find happiness because he couldn't find it in Ohio, which of course had nothing to do with him and everything to do with living in Ohio... except many years later he's still unhappy. Now, however, he no longer has Ohio to blame so he'll attack the state university and its football program via his media pulpit. See what he did there? He acknowledged that OSU has an elite football program... but followed that up by insinuating that football doesn't really matter, and that the rubes from Ohio with their out of whack priorities are too dumb to realize it. The irony is that while turning his nose up at those of us who value the sport, out of the other side of his mouth he asks Dykes to open his purse strings and hire someone who knows something about defense. Huh? What about skewed priorities???

Ohio1St81's picture

"In return, Cal showed Ohio State what it's like to play football at a fabulous new facility with integrity and ingenuity. You know, with great weather and amateur players and all the rest."
Well aren't we grateful that San Francisco turned off the fog machines for the half-wit Buckeye bumpkins who rolled into town. I hope our team paid attention to that gleaming new facility (built in 1922, the same year as Ohio Stadium) and took notes on how to build something without duct tape and popsicle sticks. Perhaps they got to see that famous Nobel Prize shelf. I hope our players take their weekly paychecks from the University and buy some leather-bound books, protractors, and sculpting lessons so that they might learn to behave more like their West coast superiors. Then maybe we can have an element named after our university some day too. 
These are the most frustrating opinions about my alma mater. I will always be proud of Ohio State, especially its academics - and apparently, climate, since that matters. 

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Michael's picture

In return, Cal showed Ohio State what it's like to play football at a fabulous new facility with integrity and ingenuity. You know, with great weather and amateur players and all the rest.

The recently renovated Cal Stadium has to be the absolute worst stadium I've ever had the displeasure of watching a game in.
They don't have proper bathroom facilities (instead opting for Porta Potties), have exactly one entrance/exit per section for sections that have 70+ rows, the sight-lines are terrible because they put this elevated concrete platform between the 40s for the cheerleaders to dance on (and for some kid to tell their student section when to cheer) and, oh yeah, that stadium is about $500m in debt because they have no alumni support.
Their AD is so tactless that she actively endorses the article:

Alice in Aggieland's picture

Welp, one out of three ain't bad.

Haybucks's picture

Draws big crowds when the visitors buy 30,000 unsold tix.  Maybe more this past weekend.  Thanks visitors!

If the world comes to an end, I want to be in Cincinnati. Everything comes there ten years later. -  Mark Twain


zack_man99's picture

(MOD Edit: No politics here.)

bleedscarletpissmaize's picture

You have been moderated good sir.

gwright78's picture

Of course, Stanford fans would do well to emulate their counterparts in Berkeley, where students and alumni actually go to games and pack the stadium.

Yeah, that's pretty bad. How can you say this when Buckeye fans just overran your stadium?

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

If you look at the numbers attendance at Berkeley has been in a general decline while Stanford is in an upswing.
6. Berkeley 55,876 (New Stadium)
11. Stanford 43,343
2011 (12 teams)
7. Stanford 49,997
11. Berkeley 37,657* (Off Campus)
2010 (10 teams)
Berkeley 57,873
Stanford 40,042
4. Berkeley 59,472
9. Stanford 41,436
Berkeley 61,634
Stanford 34,258
Berkeley 36,142
Stanford 19,945

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

There's a well-known story about how the President of Cal fired their Marching Band director, after witnessing TBDBITL at the Rose Bowl. 
The band was there last night. And I'm sure the tOSUMB won both pregame  and halftime. But no mention how they will win in life.


40 Degrees North's picture

What does anyone expect out of Berkeley or anywhere else in the Bay Area?
The Bears will get their 5th place trophy at the end of the season. If these goof balls had their way, the Buckeyes would have to surrender 9 points to Cal just to make it more fair and equitable. The Buckeyes are just too big and bad and they need to pay their fair share like Cal does. If Cal has to suffer, so should Ohio State.
Did Sonny Dykes come into the locker room after the game last night like Bobby Knight in the Minute Maid commercial? "Hey men, who needs a treat?"

Barney's picture

I experienced attitudes like this all day long.  Both outside and inside the stadium.  Stay classy Berkeley!

Set your gearshift for the high gear of your soul!

Buckeye Chuck's picture

"Put the 'D' back in Dykes?" That's probably not a commonly heard sentiment in the Bay Area.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

That's probably the one thing this shithack of an article got right.  Cal needs some defense if they are really going to become a force to be reckoned with in the PAC 12.

Class of 2010.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture


I'll give you $50 if you paint that on a large placard and then film yourself marching back and forth in front of the Cesar E. Chavez Student Center on campus.

thekornidentity's picture

That is a great and absolutely hilarious idea. That would be one of the greatest signs ever.

“Nothing that comes easy in this world is worth a damn.” -Woody Hayes

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

I will add fifty more.  Seriously.
Edit: But the video goes to Eleven Warriors to use in a funny rebuttal of the guy's buttal.

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DefendYoungstown's picture

As much as an OSU homer I am, living in CA, there is a certain prestige that comes with a degree from Cal, not sure I feel the same way about a degree from tOSU.

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Alice in Aggieland's picture

I'd concede your point if it were 1997.

jvd253's picture

Yes, Cal is a great school (just not as good as Stanford or Cal Tech, or perhaps even Claremont McKenna and Pomona (depending on your metrics) in its own state...).   

"A guy from Ohio can make it in life if he works hard enough." - Wayne Woodrow Hayes

causeicouldntgo43's picture

I guess it is better than a degree from Orange Coast College, maybe. Have you seen how OSU stacks up academically these days, or research wise - it's pretty impressive. You have to have a 3.7 GPA just as table stakes for admittance now.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

You might be right, but I'm not sure that prestige and reality match up exactly. Ohio State is much better than now than when I attended, and it was damn good then.

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southernstatesbuckeye's picture

Them cats at Cal been moakin a beet too mush shtuff...

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bucked up's picture

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gravey's picture

Politics are not welcome at 11W.

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Not clickin' on it - heard this one, or something like it, before, whenever we play an institution that likes to believe in that drivel.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Northwestern had a patent on that exact style of haughty butthurt right up until they started to field a competitive product.
Trying to divert attention to another topic is the last bastion of the sore loser.

thekornidentity's picture

Sounds like someone is jealous that Ohio State is a university with good academics and athletics.

“Nothing that comes easy in this world is worth a damn.” -Woody Hayes

gravey's picture

EASY PEOPLE.    Up until I read that article and some of the equally ignorant responses here, I was exceptionally proud of how things went in Berkeley yesterday.  I thought both fan bases were really well behaved, classy, complimentary of each other.  It was a great football day.
The bands were amazing.  The football was exciting.  Two world class institutions celebrating athletics.  I had a number of really great conversations with Bears and Buckeyes yesterday in Berkeley.
Now folks here and there, most of whom know little of the inner workings of the universities or the athletic programs are soiling an otherwise outstanding example of what makes intercollegiate athletics so compelling.

iball's picture

So we have 50,000 alumni that are well off enough to make a 2,400 mile trip to take in a football game and they have more cheap skate fans sitting on a hill than actually paying to watch the game and THEY are winning at life? (switches channel to WWE and eats booger)

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southernstatesbuckeye's picture

Haahaaa!  I was fist pumpin right up till the booger.
Ya got me! A little UV light for ya...

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ChicagoBuckeye33's picture

We are forgetting that these journalists can slack all they want to!
None of their readers are going to remember a damn thing in the morning.  How do so many judges and physicists come from Berkley and Boulder??????????

WC Buckeye's picture

Ermm.... the answer is in your question, methinks.

The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.

northcampus's picture

For a writer who gives the impression that he is above a meaningless football game, the writer seems very emotional about yesterday's meaningless football game.
*For Cal's AD to publicly endorse this opinion piece pretty much tells the rest of the world what we need to know about the character (and intelligence levels) of the stakeholders in charge of UC-Berkeley athletics.
*It's not uncommon in our society for folks to subjectively cherry-pick generalizations that make them feel better about themselves when faced with a vulnerable situation.  If a school (OSU included) loses an athletic event, then they brag to opposing fanbases about better academics.  If a school (OSU included) sees a report come out claiming their academics to be not as good as perceived, then they brag to opposing fanbases about the power of their alumni base.  The high level of emotion and irrational thinking present in college alumni/fanbases spits out a finished product that is some times embarrassing and many times just plain mean.  At the end of the day, a college degree is a good thing no matter where it's from and the fact that we have the ability (or luxury) to waste time and money watching sports while living a healthy and happy life is a great thing.
Go Bucks!

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

"At the end of the day, a college degree is a good thing no matter where it's from..."
Well, my degree is from THEE Little Sisters of the Perplexed.  I wasn't sure what they wanted me to do to graduate...
Can I get a job where you work?


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ChicagoBuckeye33's picture

lol im in law school at CU Boulder I was making fun of myself.
And honestly I don't know if that was angry sarcasm, it's hard to tell with text instead of spoken word, but I meant no offense man!  School is relatively meaningless when talking about overall intelligence.

IBleedSandG's picture

She's kinda hot.


Brutus's picture

My two cents (feel free to disregard because this will be long and probably uninteresting).  California elitism exits, but in my experience, it's worse among California transplants: people who left their home states, like the f-stick who wrote this article, and come to California and suddenly realize they are so much better than where they came from.  I encounter this all the time.  Hell, I'm a transplant myself and while I have no desire to live in Ohio again, I know where I'm from and I'm quite proud.  Case in point.  Many years ago, after the 2004 Presidential election, some local columnist wrote a piece bashing the entire state of Ohio because in her view, Ohio swung the election in favor of Bush, which she obviously did not like (this will not be political, just stay with me).  In her "article" she talks about how Ohioans, referring to us "yahoos", ruined the country because they voted for Bush. Lacking any sound arguments, she instead resorted to name-calling and stereotypes.  She talked about how she once drove through Ohio and all she saw were chain restaurants.  She mentioned a friend who lived in Ohio and noticed that all Ohioans are fat.  She also talked about a friend of hers that lived in New York during 9-11 who himself was just shocked that Ohioans could have been so stupid to vote for Bush.  In his opinion (as if his opinion meant a damn thing), Ohioans just didn't understand what a horrible mistake they made.  So this was the gist of the entire article, an attack on Ohio for how the state voted. 
I've never before and never since felt compelled to send a letter to the editor, but I did this time.  I actually sent an email directly to her. I saved the email because she responded directly to me.  Here's what I wrote (assuming you're remotely interested)
As a concerned reader and fellow Kerry-backer, I just wanted to thank you for your wonderful piece on Ohio. My sentiments exactly.  Who do those stupid Ohioans think they are?  They just single-handedly ruined this country for four more years.  Never mind that another 57 million people voted for that big dummy.  Those Ohioans must just be ignorant and uneducated.  Just like all those old people in Florida four years ago. I was thinking about visiting Ohio someday, but after reading your article, I don't think I'll waste my time.  Based on the four hours you spent driving through, it's clear to me that it's nothing but chain
restaurants and mullet-wearing bigots.  My decision to avoid all things Ohio is further reinforced by your friend who has been there for a few months now and has already made the observation that everyone is fat. And let's not forget Adam, who by virtue of having
lived through 9-11, along with eight million other New Yorkers, has suddenly become an expert on Ohio and the idiots that live there.  Thanks for laying it all out there.  Ohio is just so stupid.  I hate Ohio too.  I wish everyone could be smart and important and condescending like you and me.  We wouldn't have to lower ourselves by eating at places like Applebee's. Yuck!  We could decide what's best for everyone and then make fun of anyone who disagrees.  What a wonderful world this would be.
Here's a thought, next time you want to insult a tiny, little, unimportant state of 11 million people, make sure you have some semblance of a point.  I'd love to meet the editor who decided that this hard-hitting piece of journalism just had to be in print.  And one
more thing, along with the moron who invented the pop-top can, Ohio is home to Thomas Edison, Neil Armstrong, and the Wright Brothers.  But they were probably fat.
One of the yahoos"
Full disclosure, I did not vote for Kerry and I'm about as apolitical as they come.  I was just pissed.  She responded simply with "Touche", which I thought was kind of cool.  She also disclosed that she was originally from Alaska, so she was just a transplant herself.  I mention this because if you are truly annoyed with this article, write a letter.  I know it's easy to just bash this guy through twitter, but there was certainly something very liberating for me in expressing to this woman exactly how I felt about her opinion.  I'm not saying that this guy will respond in any way, but if nothing else, do it for yourself.  Ohio is pretty flippin sweet in my opinion and now this Candace bitch knows it.

idontsmellgood's picture

Too long... didn't read.
J/K. +1 :)
My favorite part: "Ohio is just so stupid.  I hate Ohio too.  I wish everyone could be smart and important and condescending like you and me."

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Buckeyeneer's picture

But they were probably fat.

That is a hell of a zinger. Good for you!

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

THE Ohio State University

ChicagoBuckeye33's picture

Colorado must be very similar to California.  You know how Colorado is "all about weed and getting stoned" and it's legal here?  Well, that's mostly the doing of the transplants.  Weed is harmless but still.
Also the locals help keep Colorado as the skinniest state in the country, as well as the 5th lowest regarding heart disease.  In the last 4 years I have seen SO many people from California and Texas move to the Denver area and bring their obesity with them.  Yet they still very quickly get that Colorado mentality: "Yo, brah, im gonna go shred the gnar and then I'm gonna hit Boulder up and get some ass ya feel me?"

ScarletNGrey01's picture

"That's alright, that's OK, you'll work for us someday"
Students from Northwestern used to chant that refrain after their annual beat down.  tOSU is now a tough school to get into, and has world class research, leading the world in fact in cancer research and low emission energy technology research, as well as agricultural research, trying to help figure out how to feed more people in this world.  I am very proud of the institution I earned my MBA from and all the great things they do, and I do respect Cal as a great academic institution.
When I go out on the racquetball court and get my butt kicked, I don't demean my opponent if I think I have better academic credentials or make more money than him.  If he is the superior athlete and competitor, he has my respect for having bested me in the activity we took part in ... he is the alpha male and I give him the props he is due (hoping to take him the next time).
About the football game ... the buckeyes dominated Cal, a great win.  If Cal wants to become an elite institution in terms of raising money to do research to help make the world a better place, which our football team indirectly does for our institution, then they need to put a better product on the field.  How's that for being a snob LOL?  GO BUCKS!

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

ChicagoBuckeye33's picture

My backup for majoring in Sociology and Political Science was going to the school of Engineering at Ohio State, and my grandpa had to personally ask Gordon Gee to get me accepted.  My grandpa was once published in the alumni newsletter for donating like $1.5 million to the athletic department.
Gee still told him that I wasn't qualified with a 3.2 gpa and a 2250 on the SATs.
This was 4 years ago and OSU has been getting more stringent as a school ever since.  This might only apply to the school of Engineering, however, because the only other branch of the school I know about is the school of dentistry.

ChicagoBuckeye33's picture

In fact my grandpa made me take a tour of the school of dentistry from 12-3:15 on the day of the Ohio State v Michigan game in 2006.  Most anxious, bored out of my fucking mind 3 hours of my entire life!

73buckeye's picture

I am so sick of this academic one upsmanship crap, I think I'm gonna puke. I graduated from my beloved OSU with a degree in Mechanical Engineering back in 1973. I didn't know it then, bit it was apparently worthless in light of all the recent improvements. I guess it was just a fluke that it helped me to a successful career in the automotive industry for the last 40 years. I met lots of guys in that industry that went to TTUN and Wisky (none from Cal, though), and surprisingly a few even worked FOR me. Who'd think such a thing could happen?
I come to 11W to read about the team I love. Can we stick to football , please.


BuckeyeBacker98's picture

You clicked on this item and were apparently interested enough to read it and comment on it... 
As a proud graduate of The Ohio State University myself, I welcome discussion on all things Ohio State.

ChicagoBuckeye33's picture

Yeah my dad got an MBA and a Masters of Civil Engineering in 6 years total at Ohio State.
Must have been a piece of cake in the 80s
And my mom got her MD in 6 years at Kent State then too..WTH?
It's gonna take me 8 to get a law degree and PhD in Sociology, and that's if im lucky.  Im more likelly to graduate at 28.

ChicagoBuckeye33's picture

Hey BME Im sorry about your broken dreams man you really give off this air

ChicagoBuckeye33's picture

Seriously what does this downvote say?
"fuck education"?
"fuck the American Dream"?
"Smart people suck"?
"Money is for losers"?

Joe Beale's picture

From the article:

Even though the team finished 3-9 and plenty of Blues were angry, the Cal community barked even louder when it was revealed that Coach Jeff Tedford's program had fallen to the bottom of the Pac-12 in terms of graduating players.

Cal football: losing on the field AND losing in life.

Meanwhile, I looked at the list of the top 25 public universities in the country. While Cal is #1, Ohio State still made the list at #16. The Ohio State University: winning in football (not to mention basketball and lots of other sports) and winning in academics. A nice combination, don't you think, Al?

BuckeyeMark's picture

as soon as you saw this:
They'd be favored by four against the NFL's Jacksonville Jaguars.
you should know he's an idiot.  it's an old saw employed by those who know nothing of fb.  I don't care which college fb team you put on the field against the Jags or any other poor NFL team: the college team would get destroyed.  absolutely rocked.
now, obviously the NFL team might not care, be apathetic etc but if they played hard they would crush any college team.  just think about it: how many NFL draft picks are on the field at any one time for a college team?  2 or 3?  maybe 4 or 5 on a really loaded team?  how many NFL quality players are on the field for an NFL team?  yep, that'd be 11.  
it wouldn't be close.  and folks who say "[college team] could play with or beat [NFL team]" just show how little of football they really know.

Bucksfan's picture

LOL, half of Cal's current Nobel Laureates won it for Economics...probably the 2nd-worst award next to the Peace prize.  The other half are for Chemistry and Physics, predominantly because Cal has their OWN GODDAMN CYCLOTRON!  (i.e., it's really hard to do particle physics without one)
I'm not saying Ohio State's research is somehow on par with Cal's, but c'mon.  Anyway, the trolls are always gonna talk sh*t.  What would he have said about Ohio State if Cal had won?

AC1972's picture

"Below are a few notable APR scores for football (keep in mind they are representative of the 2011-12 academic year) You can also search individual programs HERE if you so choose.

Best APR scores (football):
Northwestern: 996
Boise State: 993
Duke: 989
Clemson: 985
Wisconsin: 985
Georgia Tech: 983
Boston College: 982
Missouri: 982
Ohio State: 982
Rice: 979

And here are the average APR scores for the five power conferences (via Brett McMurphy):
Big Ten: 964.9
ACC: 964.5
SEC: 957.1
Pac-12: 952.5
Big 12: 947.1"

GoBucksToledo's picture

Have to cut Cal's D coordinator some slack, it is far from easy to shut down this Buckeye attack.

roamingbuckeye's picture

A little bit of googling came up with some interesting numbers, comparing the freshman class of 2012 at both schools:
# new freshmen. ~5, 000 ~7, 000
Median SAT scores* 1220-1490 1170-1320

*So middle 50% of incoming students had scores in this range. Also these are based on old school grading with only reading and math so 1600=perfect.

I realize way more goes into admissions but SAT is the easiest across the board standard to compare

So yea, they can claim better academics, but not by much. Also our numbers are based on 2, 000 more students. Id be interested to see how osu's top students compare to their top students, just out of curiosity.

"I just cant wait to play football." -UFM

LILBUCKEYE's picture

i'm a freshman at OSU and I'm from the east coast...One of the things that I've noticed is that most teenagers also dont think this is a very good school. Our freshman class' average ACT is a 28.5.  The average ACT is around a 21. For a class of 7000 kids, having an avg ACT of a 28.5 is really good. It doesnt matter to me anymore if people think this school isnt good, I know that it is a very good school and that an engineering degrees from OSU is one of the best degrees a college grad can have.

The Ohio State University '17

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

Thank you, Lil.

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture

I got my degree from OSU College of Engineering (MatSE).  Just as good as Illinois (where I'm in grad school) and they are ranked in the top 5 nationally.  Not a whole lot of difference.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  "We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!"

buckeyedude's picture

This is exactly what TTUN fans do every time we beat them. They resort to the "well our academics are better than yours and we have more lakes..."
The sound coming out of Berkeley is that of jealousy.(If jealousy had a sound) Whiners. Pot heads. Tree huggers. And their state is as broke as the city of Detroit.



WC Buckeye's picture

And their state is as broke as the city of Detroit as the states of Michigan, New York, and Massachusetts combined.

There. Fixed that for you. The idiots out here don't have any sense of financial accountability at all.

The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.