Thursday Skull Session

By Chris Lauderback on January 10, 2013 at 6:00a
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This Sunday's showdown with Michigan just got a little more special as the Wolverines overcame Nebraska's ability to control the tempo, defeating the lowly Cornhuskers, 62-47, to keep their unblemished record intact. 

At 16-0, Michigan tied their best start in school history and became the first B1G since the 2010-11 Buckeyes to win their first 16 games (OSU reeled off 24 straight).

Last night, it was again Trey Burke and Tim Hardaway Jr. leading the charge. The backcourt duo combined to score 33 points and grab 14 boards while freshmen Nik Stauskas (13 pts) and Glenn Robinson III (14 pts) also reached double figures. 

With Michigan playing as well as any team in America and currently ranked #2, I call upon all the diehards and especially you casual Ohio State basketball fans to channel your inner Aaron Craft in hopes of creating a little Buckeye karma ahead of Sunday's 1:30 p.m. tip. 

I expect each of you to suffer at least one floor burn diving for a loose remote sometime this weekend. If you don't, you diminish the chances of Craft duplicating last March's effort in which he harassed Burke into missing 10 of 11 shots with eight turnovers in a 22-point Buckeye demolition. You don't want to mess with the wicked combo of karma and science, do you? I didn't think so. 

Sure, it's a little odd for the Buckeyes to be underdogs at home in conference play but remember, the Buckeyes have won 16 of the last 19 against the Sun and Blue, including two of three last year, and it's going to take every ounce of player and fan passion to make it a cool 17 of 20. 

POINT OF CONTENTION. While both Craft and Shannon Scott made key contributions in Tuesday's much-needed victory over the Boilers, the Big Ten Geeks took a look at the pair's performance and let's just say they aren't all that high on Craft

Craft was a beast in the 2nd half, scoring 13 of his 15 points as the Buckeyes held off a few Purdue runs to capture the 10-point victory. The typically offensively-challenged point guard has now reached double figures in three of his last four outings and has handed out 19 assists against just four turnovers. 

Still, as noted by the Geeks, it was Scott who triggered the first half run that gave the Buckeyes separation:

After just five minutes of play, the Buckeyes’ Aaron Craft  picked up his second foul and headed for the bench, with his team leading by a point. Replacement Shannon Scott would ignite the team, helping to grow a double digit halftime lead that Ohio State would not relinquish, despite some valiant efforts from the Boilermakers. Scott was excellent in many ways, but most impressive was his ability to create for others on the offensive end. Scott finished with eight assists against just one turnover, and it should be noted that four of his assists led to layups or dunks–the true mark of a creator.

For the game, the Buckeyes were actually +9 with Craft on the bench and just +1 with him on the court. Further, Purdue's turnover rate was just 8.3% with Craft on the floor and 10.7% with him on the bench. Still, even though Scott had a strong performance in other areas, his 1/5 shooting night brings his three game tally to 2/11 from the field, including 0/3 from distance and 2/6 from the stripe. 

You can certainly make the case for putting Scott ahead of Craft in the rotation based on the stats but with Aaron's track record defensively, especially in holding Burke to a combined 6/22 from the floor with an amazing 13 turnovers in the two OSU wins over Michigan in 2012, I'm not ready to throw in the towel on Craft. 

That said, considering Michigan starts three guys at 6'6" along with the 6'0" Burke, Scott and Craft might see plenty of time together on Sunday unless the offense is struggling mightily to make shots. 

NASDUNQ. With teams finally getting into their conference slates, Seth Davis notes this is the time of year in which the contenders, and more specifically the pretenders, begin to shake themselves out. As such, Davis recently published his Stock Report giving each team a Buy, Sell or Hold rating. Now, you might think Davis is overly Duke-bro, and you'd be right, but he also watches a boatload of hoops. His take on Ohio State is about what you'd expect: 

OHIO STATE: SELL
I have been saying since the preseason that I thought the Buckeyes were overrated, and nothing I've seen since has changed my mind. The fact that their two losses came to Duke and Kansas has not yet affected their ranking, but I suspect that will change in the coming weeks. This is as good a perimeter defensive team as you will find, but Ohio State's lack of offensive versatility is putting too much pressure on its D. Thad Matta was hoping that Aaron Craft would emerge as a viable No. 2 scoring option to Deshaun Thomas, but his shooting percentages are way down from last season. The two biggest X factors, LaQuinton Ross and Amir Williams, have largely been non-factors. And freshman Amedeo Della Valle, a naturally gifted scorer, is too much of a defensive hindrance to earn minutes.

I can't argue with anything Davis notes in labeling Ohio State a SELL but it's important to note it's still early January. Just because the team hasn't evolved at a pace we hoped for doesn't mean they won't make significant strides by March. 

MOAR PLZ

A HARSH REALITY. The real Dr. Saturday, aka Matt Hinton, took one last look at Alabama's national championship season and while we all hate it, the harsh reality is that Saban might only be in the middle of a dynastic run. It seems his only worthy adversaries are Urban Meyer and a select few other programs, no matter what we think about built-in advantages such as oversigning, forcing medical hardships, etc. Consider:

  • Alabama is the first team in 15 years to capture back-to-back titles. 
  • Bama is one of only five schools (along with Army, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Ole Miss) that can realistically claim three national championships in a span of four years.
  • Eight starters from the 2011 team were drafted by the NFL last April, six of them off the nation's No. 1 defense.
  • Six starters on this year's team were once five-star recruits, a staggering number considering that fewer than 30 incoming prospects in the entire nation earn that status in a given year.
  • For the first time in school history, Bama produced two 1,000 rushers and their quarterback became the first to throw 30 touchdown passes in a season. 

And finally:

The Returning Champs. The most terrifying part of the Tide's run? Just how young they are. Ten starters in the championship game were freshmen or sophomores, including Yeldon, who finished as the most prolific freshman rusher in school history, and the leading receiver, fellow freshman Amari Cooper, who went over 100 yards receiving in four of the last five games and finished just one yard shy of 1,000 for the season. Along with a handful of other first-year contributors and redshirts, Alabama led the nation in yards from scrimmage by freshmen. Of the top dozen tacklers on defense, five were sophomores.

In all, 20 full or part-time starters are scheduled to return in 2013, a number that should still rank among the best in the SEC after the inevitable handful of early departures for the NFL Draft. One guess where they're expected to start in the preseason polls.

Look, I hate them too, and want to punch myself for glossing them, but damn. Imagine how sweet it will be if Urban's Buckeyes get a chance to knock them off for all the marbles. 

IN THE CLEAR? The attorney for Texas linebacker Jordan Hicks, the former Lakota West star, said yesterday that no charges will be filed against against his client, or anyone else for that matter following an investigation into an alleged rape that saw both Hicks and Case McCoy be sent home prior to the Alamo Bowl:

“I just got off the phone with the San Antonio police department detective in charge of the investigation of my client, and he has informed me that no charges will be brought against Jordan Hicks or anyone else in this matter … .The investigation is closed,” Minton said in a statement. Additionally, I have spoken to Mr. Hicks and his family, and they are understandably relieved. Mr. Hicks will be returning to the University of Texas once school resumes.”

Of course, not long after Minton's remarks, the San Antonio PD's Special Victims Unit said it's still reviewing the case. 

 "CLIQUE" (is my jam). Loser... Hightower's fancy footwork... Map of World Cannabis Laws... The 100 Greatest Quotes from The Wire... Duke loses Ryan Kelly to injury... Map of life expectancy changes from 1970 to 2010... Arrested Development return date announced... Air Guitar World Championships 2011... The Eagles have met with Brian Kelly. 

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gwalther's picture

Just watched The Dark Knight Rises again last night... And my thought is, as was true with Urban at Florida, Alabama's success will get harder to sustain.
I am hoping this concept affects Alabama's players, if not their coach: "Victory has defeated you." Would also be the number 1 most badass thing ever said in a post-game handshake if Ohio State beats Bama in the national championship game next year.

Class of 2008

Jack Fu's picture

What if he says it with the accent of an English butler?

Alhan's picture

That would be weird since it was Bane's line :-)

"Nom nom nom" - Brady Hoke

Jack Fu's picture

Because it is an ironclad law that jokes are funnier when you explain them, my comment was implying that Tom Hardy's choice of accent and inflection appeared to mirror that of an English butler, not that the line was spoken by Michael Caine.

popeurban's picture

I understood Glen Rice Jr, but what is up with Michigan getting all of the kids of former NBA stars?
And by all I mean like three kids...

dsbgobux's picture

They are told stories by their fathers about the fab 5 and all of thee loot, and women they got. They have all been warned about calling time outs though. Leave it to the bench!
 

Buckeye in PA purgatory

OldColumbusTown's picture

The funny thing is that Glen Rice Jr actually did not go to Michigan - he went to Georgia Tech.

gwalther's picture

Also -- feel bad not commenting on the basketball related portion of this post.
Sunday represents a big opportunity for OSU to change the momentum and dialogue surrounding the team this year. Another loss will cause further disinterest in our bball fanbase, and may result in a 3 loss January (ick) depending on how we recover.
As to the Craft/Scott debate: Scott isn't really an upgrade as a scoring threat. In response to the poll I selected Craft, because giving 100% effort 100% of the time, as well as being an actual team leader, are two things that this teams needs and that are important to any team's success.

Class of 2008

unknownmusketeer's picture

To some extent, the "problem" with this team seems to be focus. They played well against Kansas, but failed to show up with Illinois. Maybe, when Craft is on the court, they relax, thinking that Craft can provide all of the intensity. Without him, they know they have to turn it up. Hence, the stats being the way they are.

BoFuquel's picture

ESPN has made it Fab to follow in the footsteps of The Five.GO BUCKS!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Denny's picture

Seth Davis also thinks something called "alkaline water" is a strong BUY so I'm not sure he's v.smart

Taquitos.

Michael Citro's picture

Not to diminish Scott's contributions while Craft was out, but who's to say Craft wouldn't have been +9 if he'd been on the floor during Deshaun's scoring outburst? Scott and Craft are both great defenders. Craft will (usually) give you more scoring than Scott, but certainly he's not as good of a distributor. I'm glad both are Buckeyes.

wjpalumbo's picture

Two things Craft has that can't be replaced are his leadership and defensive presence.  Scott is a great number 2 option but there is no way he can replace Craft in the starting line up.  Basketball is a game of momentum changes and the second half is where the game is won or lost.  Purdue was playing in front of the loudest crowd I have heard all season (even louder than Duke or it seemed that way on tv) and Craft consistently made big shots and distributions in the second half to end potential runs by the home team. 
One other thing that was clear in Tuesday's game was the team's ball movement and agressiveness on the offensive end.  They were able to pass the ball around to get open looks and shoot in rythm instead of the stagnet, hesitating, shot launching offense we have seen recently.  Craft has a direct impact on flow of the offense.  Stats don't give the complete picture of what Craft provides for this team.

 

 

Squirrel Master's picture

FYI, the game was in Purdue. It was loud but I doubt it effected the boilers.

Craft is better. We can all see it despite the stats. He doesn't lose is composure. Scott sometimes plays hero ball. It is a problem late in games despite his stellar play in the first half.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

BrewstersMillions's picture

I went to the game with two friends of mine who were Purdue alums and another friend who has adopted OSU as his team. Generally I agree with the point you are making but I'll add a caveat to it-Craft is better when the offense is clicking. I wonder if the offense works with Craft or because of Craft. Tuesday it was obvious the offense had rhythm with Scott that it lacked with Craft. With that said, I can't hang it all on Craft or give Scott all of the credit because when DeShaun is shooting like he was, anyone can run that offense. I will say this-its a pretty good problem to have. I'd rather the Bucks have 2 reliable bigs but to be able to have 2 reliable PG's isn't too shabby either. On a larget scale, I'm with you-OSU is better when Craft is playing well but Scott is a great spark to get the offense going as I feel he runs the offense better and is a bit of a better scoring threat because of how easy he seems to get to the basket. The latter part of the second half though was all #4. He took over the pace of that game with some nice offensive production and drew a slew of fouls.
What I really liked about that game was the fact that a different player seemed to have a big impact a few minutes at a time. The first half was the DeShaun show. Scott had a few nice plays, but in the second, there was a stretch where Ross was the man, then Thomas again, then Craft, and Thompson took over the last few minutes with the dagger two late in the game and some big rebounds. Tuesday was a really solid team game that a lot of people had a hand in. Thomas got the big numbers but Ross, Craft, Scott, and Slam all chipped in huge plays and OSU ALWAYS had an answer for Purdue. My buddy kept saying "Purdue can't get a stop when they make a run". That's the sign of a resilient team. On the road, tough game, loud place, home team makes a run at you and you keep answering. OSU is streaky offensivley but no one should doubt their toughness.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

Squirrel Master's picture

Very True! It helped a lot with everyone showing up. the fact that Thompson was playing pretty solid and Amir was doing work against that freshman center really allowed Thomas and then Craft.
Can't forget that outside of Thomas and Craft, most of these guys are still trying to develop themselves. Even Smith Jr. He is very diverse with his skills but could get a lot better at being more consistent.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

wjpalumbo's picture

I should have a proof reader look at my posts before I hit save.  I meant to wright OSU there.  Oops!
 

 

 

Doc's picture

Tuesday nights game was a hack-fest of fouls.  Craft's two straight off sunk his first half.  He was more aggressive and brought pressure on the offensive end in the second.  I'll take Aaron anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.  The kid has heart.
If Brian Kelly bolts for the Eagles the Domers butt-hurt will be doubled, and that always makes for a good day. 

"Say my name."

rickyu22's picture

"I expect each of you to suffer at least one floor burn diving for a loose remote sometime this weekend."
Love that comment

slippy's picture

I think Scott should start over Lenzelle.  He really hasn't proven himself to be an elite player in any aspect of the game.  Meanwhile Scott has the #3 A/TO ratio in the country, which is pretty damn elite.

BrewstersMillions's picture

The only problem there is having two guys on the floor who need the ball to make an impact. Smith can be a good deep ball option.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

Jack Fu's picture

I said this last year and it really hasn't changed: I love everything about Scott's game but his shooting. He's a great defender (1st on the team and 5th in the conference in defensive rating), he handles the ball well, he distributes well, and he makes great decisions with the ball (first in the conference in assist-to-turnover ratio). Problem is, he couldn't throw a beach ball into the ocean even if he was knee-deep in water. You don't see many point guards that shoot 56% from the free throw line. Even with his shooting woes, he does so many other things so well ... I mean, according to Basketball Reference, there are two OSU players in the top 20 in the Big Ten in PER: DeShaun Thomas at #6 and Shannon Scott at #18.
I love Craft as much as anybody, but there is real evidence that Scott is just as good of a PG, and maybe even a little bit better. At the very least, it's something that needs to be discussed.

IBleedSandG's picture

If Scott could shoot, he'd be All B1G! Frustrating to watch, but he's definitely taken a huge step forward from last season.

"You pick up the rifle and go as hard as you can possibly go."
-UFM

OSUStu's picture

Air Guitar World Championships 2011...I am embarrassed just to have watched two minutes of this.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

bukyze's picture

You made it to 2 minutes ?!?!  Is there any way to unremember this?  ANY help would be greatly appreciated.

IBleedSandG's picture

I was just happy to see Craft hit a couple of jumpers in the lane vs. Purdue. I think Dan Dakich was right when he was talking about the lack of confidence that showed in one of Craft's first missed shots. "Shoot the ball and know its going to go in."
Did LSJr even score against Purdue? It seems like every game someone (usually more than one player) on the team is just ice cold and can't hit anything. If they were just more cosistent on offense, they be pretty dangerous.
I think Matta has to get Q and DT on the floor at the same time for portions of a game. They are the best scorers, by far. If Q only plays 18 minutes a night, how is he ever going to get any confidence?
A win vs. ttun could be season-changing. I'm sure Thad will have the guys ready.

"You pick up the rifle and go as hard as you can possibly go."
-UFM

AltaBuck's picture

Starting Sunday, TSUN begins a 30-day stretch of games that include: @tOSU, @Minn, @Ill, @Indiana, @Wisc, @MSU. Plus home games against tOSU and Purdue.
Considering the schedule they played so far this year, I don't know if they are for real or not. Their best win is a 7 pt victory at home vs NC St. After the next 30 days, we will certainly know if TSUN is a contender.
 
 

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

William's picture

Bama is one of only five schools (along with Army, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Ole Miss) that can realistically claim three national championships in a span of four years.

No. Minnesota won 5 titles in 8 years, including three in a row, from 1934-1941. I'd consider that applicable, as this was during the beginning of the AP poll era. 

toad1204's picture

IMO the team feels more urgency to score when Craft is on the bench and Scott is at point.  When 4 is on the court they are a little more relaxed and without so much push to score as him and Thomas are going to be the primary options.  Good to see him starting to figure out how to score again.  If he can get comfortable and Ross can speed up and get comfortable, not to mention Thompson's range which he found against Purdue they can crack the top 10 again.
 
 
January 10, 2013 13:34 EST and M*chigan still sucks.

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

joel121270's picture

Weren't we pushing for Hicks real hard a few years back?

toad1204's picture

Very.  It came down to us and UT.  Picked UT since it was his childhood home I believe. 

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

bukyze's picture

The US will eventually be all blue regarding the cannabis laws.

buckeye76BHop's picture

True...true...it will be amazing how many prisons will be letting a lot of ppl go free.  That way they can lock up more "real" criminals like murders, rapists and others who actually "deserve" to have many years in prison.  

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

William's picture

I agree with the statements above, but that map is inaccurate. Marijuana is by no means decriminalized in North Carolina. 

buckeye76BHop's picture

Nor is Ohio...it has been sort of...but if you get popped...you get popped.  It's just a ticket for anything less than 100 grams and it's a minor misdemeanor.  More than that 200 grams is a major misdemeanor or possible felony. Still needs to be legal....stupid that alcohol which (I love) is worse IMO.  
I know these laws bc I work with criminals;-)  Just kidding;-)

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

BuckeyeSaab's picture

Decriminalized does not mean legal.  A place that is considered "decrim'ed" when there are no criminal charges for minor possesion amounts.  Ohio is considered a decriminalized state as there is no criminal record created from getting busted with less than 100g.  And 100g is quite a lot - 3.5 oz. or 16 1/4 ounce bags.  Compare that to a state like FL where you would be placed into jail and get a felony charge for less than half that amount and you see why Ohio's $150 fine and slap on the wrist is classified the way it is.

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

William's picture

Ok, but it is placed on your record in North Carolina, so my point remains the same. I have no problem with the legalization of marijuana, just pointing out the inaccuracies of that map. 

BuckeyeSaab's picture

If they out it on your record for small amounts then yeah, NC is the wrong color fo sho.

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

buckeye76BHop's picture

It's placed on your record in Ohio too....that's why many ppl I work with have said and it says that on their face sheets.  So no...it's not legal....but laws and punishment have been decreased.  Hence my point about prisons being occupied by types it should (murders, rapist and child molesters and etc).  Some one who smokes or whatever and gets busted doesn't belong in prison...bottom line.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

buckeye76BHop's picture

@ BuckeyesAA:  No were above does it say it's legal...does it????  I'm just saying that prisons should have the aforementioned individuals in it...I don't think it will be legal in Ohio for a while...if ever.  Too many conservatives in Ohio and surrounding states....won't happen for a while due to that.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

Poison nuts's picture

Possibility of Brian Kelly heading to the Eagles?? Welcome aboard Jaylon Smith! Still love to have you...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

pukindawg's picture

In my opinion there is no way he can succeed in the NFL. The minute he starts swearing at pro players and turning purple one of them will knock him out. 

Alhan's picture

I'm glad Notre Dame didn't knock 'Bama off the mountain-top.  It will mean so much more if Ohio State can beat them in the title game this year!

"Nom nom nom" - Brady Hoke

buckeye76BHop's picture

Agreed with you.  It's going to happen Alhan....I can't wait!  
Love that avatar picture btw....my job is much like that movie.  Same thing...day in...and day out.  Not sure which is better, Office Space or Horrible Bosses?  Hard to say...both are great.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

Bucksfan's picture

Umm, Matt Hinton may need to be reminded that had Ohio State not been banned from bowl participation, Alabama's national title would not have happened.  They should not have been in the title game last season, either, but got the benefit of ESPN's marketing scheme to get a rematch of a god-awful game.  Therefore, all this talk about Alabama's dynasty is sort of nonsense.
Look, I can respect Alabama's talent, and I can respect Nick Saban as a masterful coach when given 6 weeks or more to prepare.  But, they lost at home this year and last year, and the only reason they didn't lose at LSU this season was because Les Miles left 6 points out there by going for it on 4th down instead of kicking a FG and faking another makeable FG.
Alabama was gift wrapped their opportunity last year when they didn't deserve it, and they got lucky this year with Ohio State being banned.
The use of the term "dynasty" is suspect at best.

Catch 5's picture

You forgot to add that if Colt McCoy hadn't hurt his shoulder, they never would have won the first one. 
And to think, just yesterday you accused me of rewriting something to suit my view.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

Bucksfan's picture

Since I never said anything about injuries, actually it's you, once again, filling in the narrative to support some sort of fleeting point you think you may have had here.

BrewstersMillions's picture

OSU got banned at the start of the season, so Bama's 'luck' that OSU was out of the post season picture is kind of over simplistic, no? Lucky would have been an undefeated OSU team getting the BCS Title game invite and THEN the NCAA coming down and saying "Oh, no post season play this year". Bama went the entire year knowing Ohio State wasn't eligible. It wasn't lucky, it was simply the college football world in which Bama was playing. As for the "benefit of ESPN's marketing scheme"-what team was more deserving? This certainly creates the "Lose early\late" debate but I'd rather see the team that lost to LSU than the one that lost to ISU in that game. A rematch was bound to happen in the BCS, but in my opinion there were no two finer football teams in the nation than LSU and Alabama last year. More so-they still won the game. Regardless of how they got there, you can't take that away from them.
Saying Saban is a good coach "when given 6 weeks to prepare" is a backhanded compliment if ever there was one. Are you saying he isn't a good coach when he doesn't have that time? Does time to prepare negate bowl game success? I'm asking, not accusing, but it seems like you are trying to give Saban some sort of asterisk on his bowl wins.
It does seem like you are putting an asterisk on the LSU win. Bama had to play all 60 to get a win in that game and to put the loss entirely on Les and not give a nod to Bama for making the plays it needed to comes off again, as over simplistic. Who's to say Les left points on the field? I could just as easily say Bama could have blocked it and walked those points into the endzone. Bama won, LSU didn't.
I really don't know why you have such a problem with the term "Dynasty". Marketing ploys? Good fortune? They won all three games they played that determined the champion.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

Bucksfan's picture

Look, it's not really worth going down this road.  There are people like you who point to the 1 loss to determine who goes to the title game.  There are people like me who prefer to look at the whole season, a season in which Oklahoma State beat 7 teams that finished with winning records, and Alabama who beat 3.  Oklahoma State deserved to go to the title game over Alabama, who had already lost to LSU.  Period.

Are you saying he isn't a good coach when he doesn't have that time?

That's not what I'm saying at all.  I'm saying he is a better coach than everyone else when given that much time to prepare...except maybe whoever's at Utah.  But during the regular season, he's as mortal as everyone else...as indicated by having only 1 undefeated season during this so-called "dynasty."

It does seem like you are putting an asterisk on the LSU win.

You're making all kinds of accusations today.

I really don't know why you have such a problem with the term "Dynasty".

I think I made my case pretty clear.  It might not seem clear to you because you are trying to assign a lot of assumptions that aren't necessary.

BrewstersMillions's picture

Whoa whoa whoa. Time out. Do you see those things that look like crooked, squiggly lines with periods under them? (Psst-that thing). Those are called question marks and generally those come after something someone says when they are unsure of the answer. Now, I know, you hate having your opinions challenged but what did I assume that wasn't lead into with a question? I wasn't assuming you were calling Saban an inferior coach I was asking if thats what you thought-you answered that one with the idea that he's human like any other coach. Clearly you grasp the question\answer dynamic.
Bama passed the eye test for me. Yes that is my opinion and not a fact-just like putting the word "Period" at the end of something you say is an opinion not a fact. I get that you see 'deserving' as one thing and I see it as another.
Accusation "You are putting an asterisk on the LSU win.
Question-"It does seem like you are putting an asterisk on the LSU win".
Or you can get up in a tizzy and assume its an accusation I suppose.
 
You started down the "Alabama as a dynasty is suspect" road, you can't bring it up, claim some sort of dark shadowy ESPN conspiracy and then come back and say it isn't worth discussing because someone disagrees with your opinion. Of course lashing out at opposition is just par for the course anyway isn't it? (That was a question mark, for the record).

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

Bucksfan's picture

Do you see those things that look like crooked, squiggly lines with periods under them? (Psst-that thing). Those are called question marks and generally those come after something someone says when they are unsure of the answer.

Ok.

Accusation "You are putting an asterisk on the LSU win.
 
Question-"It does seem like you are putting an asterisk on the LSU win".

Huh?

BrewstersMillions's picture

Excellent work, as always.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

acBuckeye's picture

I agree. The purpose of the BCS Title game is to pit the two best teams against each other. LSU and Bama were the two best teams in the country last year by quite a large margin. A team that loses to Iowa State doesn't deserve a national title shot. I say this and I despise the SEC and Nick Saban.
 

Ashtabula's picture

Why does everybody assume Craft is such an amazing leader?  According to many comments made by coaches and players, this team does not take practices as seriously as they should.  Furthermore, last year's team was accused of this same thing.  These are signs of a team lacking leadership. 
Craft is an amazing on-ball defender (there is more to defense than just this though), but is average in many other aspects of the game.  He and Scott can not be on the floor together all that often because Craft as a shooting guard diminishes our already below average offensive talent. 

Maestro's picture

That life expectancy map is actually pretty scary to me.

vacuuming sucks

William's picture

I could see Asia's dipping a bit, due to the fact that Central Asia is a clusterf*ck of authoritarian regimes with complete disregard for the wellness of their peoples. 

German Buckeye's picture

Especially since I'm a whole lot closer to the average "men" years than I want to be...ouch. 

btalbert25's picture

It always cracks me up when people give ESPN so much credit for putting Bama into the national title game last year.  It had nothing to do with ESPN and everything to do with westcoast voters in the Harris Poll voting ahead of Oklahoma State.  I remember there were votes as low as 7 in the Harris Poll for Oklahoma State and they were from fools in the West Coast trying to get Stanford ranked higher.
If you want to be mad about who "deserved"(as if this system has anyway to judge who really deserves to be in anyway) to be in the national title game, blame the idiots from out west who voted Oklahoma State 5-7.

William's picture

There were a couple of SEC voters that voted Oklahoma State lower in the coaches poll, including Franklin and Saban..

Poison nuts's picture

I dislike Bama & I dislike Saban...but they have proven to me that they are both a damn good team with a damn good coach. I hope & prey for the Buckeyes to meet them in next years NC game & be the team that that knocked the SEC off the mountain. It would be a fitting scenario as it was Ohio States loss to Florida that started the string of wins for them. It would be pretty cool if it came full circle for them to stop it...

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