Alex Anzalone Decommits from Ohio State

By Ramzy Nasrallah on May 4, 2012 at 4:03p
286 Comments

One day after a Lantern story on the OSU Compliance Department's quick action against a convicted sex offender's repeated interactions with former, current and prospective Ohio State athletes, star linebacker recruit Alex Anzalone has abruptly rescinded his commitment from Urban Meyer's 2013 class.

As first reported by Irish Sports Daily and then Mike Farrell from Rivals, Anzalone's decommitment comes less than two weeks removed from his attendance at the OSU Spring Game.

There is no evidence (yet) that Anzalone's decommitment is related to photos or his interactions with Charles Eric Waugh, the aforementioned sex offender who has tweeted and pursued photos with numerous Buckeyes, but the timing of his announcement is suspicious to say the least.

More news as it emerges. Apologies for the icky gray box - we hadn't had one for quite some time.


UPDATE (8:01pm): Anzalone's hometown paper on his decommitment. It sounds as though the family was never on board and the photo that surfaced of Alex with a convicted sex offender was the nail in OSU's coffin.


UPDATE (9:10pm): Ohio State has released a statement:

Statement from The Ohio State University Dept. of Athletics:

The issue surrounding the individual from Kentucky is being treated by the Department of Athletics as a student-athlete welfare issue. When the University became aware that this individual had been seen in pictures – taken in public places – with student-athletes, proactive precautions were taken and the Department of Athletics alerted more than 1,000 Ohio State student-athletes about this person. The email message also reminded them of the negative implications that can be realized through simple associations on social networking sites. This individual is not associated with Ohio State. He is not a booster. He has not engaged in any activities on behalf of the University. The Department of Athletics will continue to monitor this issue and it will remain proactive in its efforts with regard to precautions for its student-athletes.

The statement went on to include the full text of the email sent to student athletes, which alerted them to the situation and provided links to block users on Facebook and Twitter.


UPDATE (11:02pm): ESPN is on the case with some interesting quotes from Anzalone's father:

"His father said he might even still consider the Buckeyes.

"It's a possibility," Sal Anzalone said. "Things change. You can't hold them responsible for other people's behavior."

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hodge's picture

Time for damage control...
Kinda sad that compliance did the legwork to warn the kids about this, and he still decommits over it.  If indeed that is the reason for his departure...

Steve Earle Bruce Springsteen's picture

EVERYBODY FREAK OUT

The North remembers.

AeroBuckeye2001's picture

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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SilverBullet33's picture

Bullshit.  I understand we can't speculate about his reasons but this HAS to be related to this dumbass pervert. 

luckynewman13's picture

I need to hear something from Meyer...I don't even know what I want to hear...just say something.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Say something about what, Anzalone? That's not something he can do.
The kid is from Pennsylvania, so you can't blame him for thinking "Sorry, don't need this."
A bad week gets worse.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Steve Earle Bruce Springsteen's picture

Urban needs to drop everything he's doing and come reassure us. Whisper sweet nothings about Woody into our ear. Something. Anything.

The North remembers.

luckynewman13's picture

If not about Woody, then reassure or give it to us straight about Bosa...who I'm fairly certain is gone now, as well.
sorry if I'm Mr. Stormcloud today

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Well, he'll definitely be gone if Meyer talks about him before he's signed. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Steve Earle Bruce Springsteen's picture

I was being snarky. It pains me physically that you're not.

The North remembers.

JasonBuck's picture

Done with recruiting...hows that for freaking out, following kids and what they'll do, what college will they go to, will they stay committed or de-commit, blah more trouble than it's worth, after two years of following recruiting I'M DONE! 

luckynewman13's picture

well, let's hope UFM doesn't feel the same way

Denny's picture

It's his job to recruit. It's not ours.

Taquitos.

luckynewman13's picture

don't recall saying it was

TheBadOwl's picture

This hurts.
And since he said he's no longer considering us... how painfully ironic would it be if he ends up choosing Penn State?

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

Michael's picture

Or Notre Dame.
Also, unless I read it wrong, the five school hashtags at the end of the tweet (ND, Stanford, USC, Florida and Penn St) was something added by Irish Sports Daily. Anzalone's statement only mentioned that he is decommiting from Ohio State and digesting the situation.

RBuck's picture

Don't tweet recruits!

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

blazers34's picture

I know this argument has been had, but I dont see the point in even following them.  if they say anything important 800 different OSU beat writers are going to RT it

Riggins's picture

Yea, agreed.  You don't need to be THAT involved imo.

Ohiothomas1's picture

Im done with recruiting too. I can look at the class at the end of the year....

BuckI_1033's picture

I'm done too!!!

"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field." 

buckeyeEddie27's picture

howbout that twitter ban we were all talking about when urbs took over?    

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

Ohiothomas1's picture

Why do kids commit so early in the first place when they do things like this?

Riggins's picture

They're 17 years old. They don't know what they want to do next Friday, let alone where they want to spend the four to five years following high school.
Wish the kid well wherever he chooses.  It's his only chance to pick a school without penalty of sitting out a year, unlike any other non-football/basketball student or their very coaches.

snoodogg22's picture

F this! See you in September

Tough times never last, tough people do

TheBadOwl's picture

Let's just hope we can keep Bosa... Anzalone was easily one of my favorite recruits. I know he says he's no longer considering us, but things can change. Obviously I'm being optimistic, but man, I really don't want to see him go anywhere else.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

BuckI_1033's picture

The board will be in full panic mode when Bosa decommits. It's inevitable. 

"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field." 

Bucks's picture

I know plenty of people would love to hear from the staff right now (Urban) but I would guess those hands are full speaking with parents. Won't surprise me in the least if there are parents/guardians wanting their children to put the brakes on for a little bit.

Jdadams01's picture

Well, this sucks.
Alex, are you hearing any specifics on the reason?

Ramzy Nasrallah's picture
luckynewman13's picture

nevermind, beat me to it

GoBucks713's picture

FFFFFFUUUUUU #grayboxfriday'd

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tampa buckeye's picture

"There is no evidence (yet) that Anzalone's decommitment is related to photos or his interactions with Charles Eric Waugh, the aforementioned sex offender who has tweeted and pursued photos with numerous Buckeyes, but the timing of his announcement is suspicious to say the least."
 
Then why the hell would you bring it up?  I had not even heard of the creeper from ky until this gray box.
Fuck you gray box.

Ramzy Nasrallah's picture

Then why the hell would you bring it up?  I had not even heard of the creeper from ky until this gray box.

It would be as lazy or irresponsible to avoid mentioning the timing as it would be to fail to qualify that there is no evidence correlating the two.

Anzalone shows up in several of his tweets and photos less than 24 hours ago and then decommits: Readers are owed those details & we should feel obligated to report them, not obscure them.

The creeper story was buckshotted last night.

tampa buckeye's picture

I still don't see the direct connection in his decision.   It's not like he has to room with the guy his freshman year.
Damn you twitter.  
 

Lincoln's picture

This sounds like its going to get bad

Bucks's picture

With what Alex said on twitter regarding the matter & Waugh ... hard to believe it is a coincidence.
Regardless of the reason that he doesn't want to express, this leaves that feeling of more-to-come, via more decommits and/or additional news in regards to Waugh. Hopefully not the case.

hodge's picture

Sounds to me like this couldn't have been avoided.  The staff did the right thing, they stopped the bastard--collateral damage like this is the unfortunate reality.
My money says Meyer talked to him told him to decommit.  I'm betting a violation of some sort occurred between him and Waugh and--to protect the kid and OSU--Meyer told him to bow out.  We can't afford any shenannigans right now, I'd rather lose a recruit or two than have another year tacked onto our postseason ban.

ericbo's picture

That's what I was thinking. OSU stepped up and warned everyone immediately of this guy. Why decommit cuz of this if that's the reason. This wasn't someone the school invited to hang out it was some random pedophile that happened to be an Ohio State fan. I guarantee every major fan base in the country has some weirdos like this (unfortunately there are too many of them out there).
If he or his parents decided no Ohio State because of this I don't get it Ohio State stepped up immediately.

Big Swede's picture

That sounds ok in theory, but let's face it he found out he was stalked and approached by a sex offender who also communicated with him frequently on twitter. Can't really blame the kid for not wanting to go back to the place where this creep made contact with him (even if it was minimal).

Poison nuts's picture

My money is with your money....

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Jdadams01's picture

Well...
This is just weird. My gut tells me it has to have something to do with Waugh. The timing is just too strange. And if true, that is really sad. Waugh may have just vaulted himself into Buckeye Nations least favorite person in two days.

LadyBuck's picture

*sigh* As excited as I was for the kid, I hope we catch the twitter creeper. He's giving all of Buckeye Nation a horrible name. I hope this isn't a trend.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Unless there's a parole violation of some sort, I don't know that there's anything to "catch" (and I totally disagree that he's giving "all of Buckeye Nation a bad name"). All the school can say is, "Look, this well-known social media pest has this certain background. Steer clear."
The thing is, there's really no difference between this Waugh character and thousands of other people whose interest in where 17-year-old kids are going to college is way too extreme, except that he has a criminal record. Every school has them--with millions of college football fans in the country, and a not insignificant amount of sex offenders, it stands to reason that there's going to be some overlap between the two groups.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Maestro's picture

This is brutal.  I fully expect Bosa to be next.  Sucks big time.

vacuuming sucks

buckeyeEddie27's picture

Wait till eSECpn sinks thier teeth in to this.....

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Well that sucks! 
Okay, who is next on the board.

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CommandHead's picture

Pretty much no one at LB.  Looks like Kimbrough might get his offer very soon.

HolyBuckeye1093's picture

At least we can breathe a sigh of relief knowing that were no NCAA violations that occured in this case. Unfortunatly this goes beyond college football. This sick F*ck is somehow not in jail for downloading child porn and is now creeping on college athletes. This truely is disgusting!

CommandHead's picture

Let's hope there were no violations...

Denny's picture

Reasons I really don't like following recruiting: mostly yesterday's news, but also this.

Taquitos.

Maestro's picture

It is certainly a fickle follow.  Come February I would imagine OSU is going to bring some serious talent into the fold.  Ugghh, this too shall pass.

vacuuming sucks

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

I miss the good old days, when coaches and fans didn't have to deal with all these dumb distractions, and kids chose a school because they wanted to play there. Too many of these recruits are high maintenance. They require constant attention and support from strangers to reassure them of their decision? I don't get it. 
And this Creep form Kentucky, seriously.... you think star HS players need motivational quotes? really?  They've been motivated enough to get to this point!

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

On a side note: Anyone caught looking at kiddie porn should be in front of a firing squad, No questions. Society has no place for these rejects, so get rid of them. So sick of this. 

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Roger's picture

That seems rational and balanced.

juventas's picture

The dude's (fucking sick pedophile trash) twitter account has been removed from twitter. 

MarkieB89's picture

This is soooooo creepy. Just his looks are really creepy, not to mention the way he's hanging on to these guys in the photos are just... idk. I jump to conclusions a lot, so I pray to god that what I think is going on isn't really going on... Ugh.

BuckeyeW's picture

what the fuck is going on here? am I missing something?
I thought it was just some guy tweeting. 

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

i've got 5 words for this sick piece of shit...
 
F*(K YOU YOU F*(KING F*(K!

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Jugdish's picture

I don't think anything sick went on, but I do believe that pedo did buy lunch or something insignificant. These recruits are told what the rules are on receiving improper benefits. The recruits are the ones to blame for their actions. I wish all of the recruits well and to grow up and accept responsibility for yourself. You not only hurt yourself but others also.

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

Jeremy91's picture

If we lose Bosa I'm done...

"Do not pray for an easy life. Rather, pray for the the strength to endure a difficult one" - Bruce Lee

Jugdish's picture

Bosa was with Anzalone and Heuerman in the picture with the pedo. So it is really possible that Bosa received the same gifts and will be next to decommit. We can only hope that he passed on whatever was being given to the other recruits and he will still be in S & G.

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

Bucksfan's picture

What's going on with a convicted sex offender?

Bucks43201's picture

FWIW - Pedd State visited Anzalone last week.
Unless there was some sort of violation, (i.e. this loser creep bought him a burrito or something), it seems like an emotional (over)-reaction. Or his parents forced it. Who knows. He's a great prospect, but he's mentally weak & that fragile to decommit over some creep ... then good riddance.
We will be loaded at LB with, or without him.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Big Swede's picture

@Bucks43201
Not a good look man. Don't understand how you can be upset at Anzalone for this. The kid found out he was creeped on by a convicted pedophile, it sucks but I don't see how anybody can begrudge the kid with everything that has come to light.

Bucks43201's picture

I'm not upset with him. Nobody knows the whole situation...I'm just saying if you were creeped out by one particular creepo fan, tell your parents or Coach Meyer or somebody in compliance, or the authorities - and the problem will be taken care of. An automatic deocommitment is strange. I'm not saying his parents should have taught him the common sense to delete a creep like that from his Twitter page or anything.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Big Swede's picture

It's one thing if the guy just tweeted at him, but I think you're underestimating the fact that this pedophile was actively stalking him the night he got his picture taken with him. That is unsettling. I just don't see how anyone can call this kid mentally weak for that. 

cbusbuckeye's picture

@bucks dont go after the kid, if I had been in his position and taking pictures with a guy I later found out was a pedophile I would be creeped the hell out too. Calling the guy mentally weak because he decommitted is on the same level as SCUM fans who "never wanted the guy in the first place"

Bucks43201's picture

I'm not going after the kid. I'm just saying - if one creepy guy is going to prevent you from making an important life decision - like committing to a school & playing football there...you should first find a way to solve the problem. I mean, do you really think if he would have gone to the coaches, the compliance dept., the cops, somebody....they wouldn't have solved this situation? I guarantee this guy wouldn't have sent another Tweet, e-mail, etc. or anything.
Maybe "mentally weak" wasn't the right choice of words. I just think it's an emotional, knee-jerk reaction by him/or his parents. Maybe he never really wanted to be Buckeye to begin with. Fine. Better now than a week before NSD. No problem with that.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Bucks43201's picture

Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, etc. ... it's all about the "Look at me!" mentality with this generation.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

It's so pathetic. I do hate that it's come to that. I miss humble quiet hard working kids who want to play for Ohio State because they want to be a Buckeye. Social media is defiling the values of these kids. If you need strangers to tell you how great you are, go elsewhere. 
I hope Coach Meyer bans twitter. It won't happen, but I think we could weed out these types by doing it.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Big Swede's picture

I don't think kids are much different now then they ever were. The only difference now is that they are more accessible. It's not like kids just started being me-first circa 2003, it's just easier for everyone to see now. 

pcon258's picture

@big swede, thank you for having some logic. our generation is not any more doomed than our parents generation. kids dont change that much from generation to generation. you're telling me that no one in the older generations ever did something selfish, or stupid? socail media just makes it more public. dont be a crotchety old guy (not saying that youre old or anything, but statements like that are something a grumpy old man would say while kicking kids off his lawn)

Denny's picture

This is correct.

Taquitos.

buckeye76BHop's picture

Wtf did I just read? Did alex have something to do with this guy or decommitted because of his creepiness? I'm shocked by this...awefully strange.  I haven't read anything on this but here...

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

phxbuck's picture

College sports are sucking more and more every year. 

Bucks43201's picture

It seems to me the real problem is with the system. If you're a convicted sex offender, of minors, you should NOT be allowed to register with Facebook, Myspace, Twitter, etc., because these are easy avenues for which a sick person could prey on young people. A guy like this Waugh should not have been allowed on there in the first place.
Take, for example, Jerry Sandusky....do you think a guy like that should be allowed to register with Twitter, (which is mainly used by younger people)?
Hell no.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Sgt. Elias's picture

They'd use a fake name and email account.  What he needs is chemical castration. Predators of this kind aren't "rehabbed". Sickening.

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

cplunk's picture

Agreed, but remove the word "chemical".

Roger's picture

<bigger facepalm>

kr66osu's picture

Technically the terms of his probation explicitly stated that he could not join social networking sites, but obviously that wasn't enough to stop him. There definitley needs to be some way of monotoring what these creeps do online rather than just telling them not to do it.
Dammit this is such a mess

Sgt. Elias's picture

MCA goes to the great gig in the sky and now this. W....T....F...That guy just oozes sick-o in those photos.  I'm so angry.  
I'm going to the local watering hole with the GF, throwing 10 dollars worth of Beastie's on the juke and praying to the Whiskey Gods the gray boxes don't start multiplying.   FUUUUUUU

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

theebuckeyecrew's picture

Very well could be his parents are looking out for their son over this creeper dude.

Scott's picture

If this is because he was creeped out by Waugh, I'll just say this: If you want to get away from creepy, crazed fans, decommit from Twitter.

Class of 2008

Bucks43201's picture

amen, Scott.  ...   and I get & respect that his parents may have been creeped out by Waugh. If so - tell the coaches, the Complaince office, the authorities...there are soooo many resources at a place like tOSU, who could handle this. I don't understand the knee-jerk reaction. Like I said before, though, (FWIW), PSU visited this kid last week.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Well put man. If I were anyon those 3 recruits in the photo with him, First off I wouldn't be. Second, Why would you want to take a picture with a pudgy fat kid from twitter? seriously. The creepy loser on twitter is bad..... but why would these guys even give this guy attention. That creeps me out worse. Sick of these attention whores of athletes.  Maybe this will get HS kids to realize twitter is completely STUPID! It should be called Stalker.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

cbusbuckeye's picture

Attention whores is definately a maybe. Getting your picture taken is a phychological thing, people like to have their picture taken, and at the time he was just a fan asking for a picture.

jkrk's picture

This is an unfortunate situation, but obviously not the end of the world, even if Bosa decommits. Great players, but we're talking one or two recruits. To read some of these comments, you'd think people had forgotten what's happened around here in the last year or so. And anyway, who was as excited about Shazier before he got on the field and started destroying people? Let Body by Marotti do its job and any LB we sign will still be blowing up B1G RBs and TEs. 

Bucks43201's picture

Agreed, "JKRK" ! Yes, Anzalone is a great prospect, BUT, it's not the end of the world. This is still a great recruiting class. Urban is the best recruiter in the country. And, to be frank, LB isn't necessarily a position of need after the late 2012 haul. Maybe it opens up ther door for Kimbrough. If it were an O-Lineman, I'd be a little more upset. But...ehh not a huge deal. And, no, I don't think this is a systemic thing that will lead to violations. Isolated incident by some loser. The sky is not falling.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

jkrk's picture

Easy to keep calm and carry on if you're right about this being isolated.

juventas's picture

Great point, BUCKS43201.  Just like felons in some states can't vote.  If you're a registered sex offender, your social networking privledges are cut off.

Bucks43201's picture

thank you, Juventas. Sex offenders in some states find loophole because the laws are too leniant or some judge drops the ball.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

SCOTT wins the post award, seriously. you nailed it bud.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

BuckGnome's picture

Smoke, fire.
 
This = Bad

jkrk's picture

I don't know. If it's bad (by bad, I mean actually affecting someone who is already a part of the program), it's straight out of left field, because ESPN and Yahoo! aren't even reporting it yet.

Ohiothomas1's picture

Violations, violations, violations. That's all the NCAA cares about anymore. They just make obscure and stupid violations for the stupidest things. It seems like almost anything is a violation of some sort these days. 

Alex's picture

Can't go into too many details but this is 100% about the BdubsCreeper

jkrk's picture

Are you able to say whether this affects anybody who's already in the program?

Jdadams01's picture

Probably a good thing that guy lives in Kentucky and not Cbus

the polesposition's picture

And this brings the number of reasons I hate Kentucky to 3,746!

Mush's picture

This probably also explains the sudden Lewis Neal decommit without much explanation except for the fact that he could not go into details. Alex, let's get a hold of this situation quickly and calm Buckeye Nation (good or bad). Thanks for all of your overtime this weekend.

buckeye76BHop's picture

IMO Bosa's gone soon.  Saw your tweets with LGHL33...(not trying to stalk...just looking for whatever info I can get on this...bc my mind is BLOWN) it doesn't matter what happens with tOSU's statements in regards to this.  Done deal I think...his ties may not come through in this one.  I hope I'm wrong...

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

Ohiothomas1's picture

Alex, could there be more recruits to decommit. Will this have any effect on prospects that have not committed yet?

the polesposition's picture

In the months and years to come, I think we are going to see some real differences between JT's approach and UFM's approach.  JT almost excluslively locked up talent from Ohio, which included most of the best players and a bunch of lesser ranked kids.  One of the benefits of doing this IMO, is that you are getting kids that grew up in Ohio and probably always wanted to be Buckeyes.  UFM's more national approach strikes me of a more risk/reward approach, in that he will probably end up with a more talented team, though the risk is twofold: 1) many of these future players didn't grow up as Buckeyes at heart, so some attrition can be expected; 2) the higher the level of talent, the more the prima donna attitude can be expected to be a factor.  Frankly, I guess I just expected that we would see more decomitts and attrition under UFM's more national approach for this reason.
Obviously I am speaking more generally and do not know if there are specific factors that resulted in the last two decomitts.  Still, I think there is something to what I have written above regarding the higher risk-reward...

jkrk's picture

Even completely unrelated to this story, this seems to make sense.

Taspra's picture

I would be willing to bet he violated the terms of his probation by
1) Tweeting to these kids and 2) hanging out with them. Hopefully he will now go to jail.
The problem here is that these kids did not find him creepy. They just thought he was a huge fan and kind of a cool guy. Which is what I think may be bothering them the most. That they did not see the "signs" and then the story broke about who he really is and Alex was probably like WTF?
As the mother of an OSU student myself and had this been my son I might have the same knee jerk reaction. Right or wrong most parents would do anything and go to extremes to protect their children. Letting them grow up and leave the nest and live a life is one thing but enter a ped and it's a whole new ballgame.

juventas's picture

Alex, in your opinion, is there going to be more fallout?

Bucks43201's picture

What a loser...guy commits his whole adult life to creeping on young boys & being known for his BW's trivia prowess.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Ohiothomas1's picture

Why the $*%@ can't OSU get away from all this crap.

the polesposition's picture

The same reason Hollywood actors and actresses cannot seem to avoid it.  There is a downside to popularity...

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

somebody needs to get on this story quick...i don't like not knowing the details or if there is violations or if we could be affected by this

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Scott K's picture

Well this whole episode has reconfirmed what I've known all along: 
I WILL NEVER HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT.
Waste. Of. TIme. To be honest, it's pretty pathetic/weird/creepy to "follow" people you've never met, especially kids. What a sad and twisted window into what American culture has become.
Positive spin:  More time for 11W....
 

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

ahhhh yeah!

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

DJ Byrnes's picture

Dumb rant against Twitter. Guess what: pedophiles use the internet too, better stop using that.
 

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Scott K's picture

Oh, I'm sorry DJ, did I hit a nerve?  Just expressing an opinion, and one that's obviously shared by other posters above.  Plus, I'm not saying I don't want to use or won't use this medium because a pedo used it...
I stand by my statement:  Twitter = Waste. Of. Time.
People can use it, and I'm sure many of you do and like it.  I've got many friends that swear by it for getting news, sports, etc.  All I'm saying is this episode just proves to me what I've alsways felt about this type of social media.  That's all.
 

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

BuckI_1033's picture

No you just act like twitter is completely worthless and only used to follow recruits. Plenty of other things to use twitter for, I find it very useful. 

"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field." 

Scott K's picture

Apparently you didn't read what I wrote.  Nowhere did I write that it's only used to follow recruits, and so therefore worthless. In fact, I believe I  mentioned news, etc., along with sports as things to use the Twit to follow.
If you like it, use it.  Fine. Enjoy.
However, I will still find it A WASTE OF TIME.  Which of course is my own perogative.
You don't have to take it personally, and you don't need my approval to like using it.

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

luckynewman13's picture

To be fair, @Scott k, you said it was "pathetic to follow people you've never met". Are you saying I'm pathetic for following someone like Kevin Smith because I think he's hilarious and I like hearing what's on his mind from time to time?
Do you think everyone on this message board is pathetic because 90% of them have twitter accounts, and probably 90% of those people are following Urban Meyer but have never met him?
Not liking twitter is absolutely your choice (and some days I feel like following that path). But implying people that use it are pathetic is just asking for backlash, no one is saying you should use it, just don't judge other people who do.
Not saying this is necessarily what you meant in your original post, but that is how it came across.

Scott K's picture

No, that's not what I meant. Hell, I followed the Dead around the states for years and didn't really know them. Phish I do know...
What I meant was more of a social commentary.  Like the world wide obsession with "reality" tv shows that are about as far from 'reality' as is possible.  People feeling the need to "follow" what others are doing constantly, as if their own lives are not rich enough.  I suppose we all do it to some extent, and mediums like the Twit are just instant gradification forms.  Much like society has become.  I guess I like to get my news the old fashioned way, like reading an article on 11W.  Personal choice.
More to the point:  the whole obsession with fans following and interacting with hs/college recruits they've never met on social media is just weird.  What 11W's Alex does is different.  He's a newsman, and gathers information to write articles about.  He interviews and builds relationships. That's really my main point, and maybe got lost in translation a bit. 
Appologies.
So no, I don't feel that you or anyone else that uses the Twit is pathetic.  People who stalk recruits or others (like the whole Herby episode) I do find pathetic.
 

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

luckynewman13's picture

Settle down. Twitter is just a way to communicate, like Facebook, or the telephone. These things are just tools, the hands that wield them just need to understand how best to use them.

RedStorm45's picture

You talk to strangers/potential pedophiles on the phone?

luckynewman13's picture

Yes I talk to strangers on the phone all the time (is that a serious question?). And how would I know whether or not they are "potential pedophiles"?

RedStorm45's picture

If it's a # I don't recognize I usually don't answer.

luckynewman13's picture

it's called a day job...a lot of those job-type thingies require one to talk to strangers on a regular basis. And I hate to point out how you are currently communicating with hundreds of strangers on this very site.

iloveu2chris's picture

Dang I hope this is as bad as it gets and we can keep Bosa. Alex is it looking violations?

juventas's picture

I can see these social networking sites having an age requirment and/or parentel consent down the road.

Scott K's picture

This.  Although underage kids will still sign up and use them. 

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

cbusbuckeye's picture

Unless the sites start requiring SS #'s to sign up it will be too easy to get around. You can easily make an email address in another persons name, same for twitter acounts, facebook, etc.

Scott K's picture

Well, the other 6.5 billion people in the world might have something to say about that as they don't have SS #'s...
Plus, who in their right mind would ever give personal data like that to FB, Twitter, etc?

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

cbusbuckeye's picture

Snarky comment aside I think you understand my point, requiring some kind of government issued identification. Every country I have ever been to has some way of keeping track of their citizens...with the software that is available today where iPhones can scan checks it should be possible to take a photo of your government issued id to verify your identity. 

Scott K's picture

Not ment to be snarky bro.  Just pointing out the Twit and FB are global things...
However, no way do people in Europe or in most other countries allow for their ID's to be scanned to have a social media account.  EU laws strictly forbid the use of personal information for these kinds of purposes.
This is a tough situation and one that needs to be worked on.  I'm with you.  We try our best in schools to educate kids on the dangers that lurk online.  This whole episode is a perfect teaching tool to show kids to be cautious online, even when the "kids" involved are big, strong athletes.  I mean, those 3 would throttle that guy....

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

cbusbuckeye's picture

Ideally nobody would have to give that info...but that is the only way I can see of making sure people are who they say they are. (obviously it is possible to come up with a fake SS # or ID, but it is another barrier, if nothing else)

aboynamedtracy's picture

Unless you know who someone is (like, in real life), you're best off assuming he / she is a fabulist. Then who cares if someone is who an on-line persona says she / he is? I mean, it's the internet after all...  

juventas's picture

Technology is exploding. Times change. Rules change. 

Steve Earle Bruce Springsteen's picture

So The O-Zone is reporting that Creepo McShitstain worked at BW's in Grandview and was hooking the players up with free food and alcohol. That's a recruiting violation. Hopefully Bosa wasn't a part of it. 

The North remembers.

Denny's picture

Not surprising to the cynic in me, but still... dammit.

Taquitos.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

That's not just a recruiting violation, if true. That's a real problem for BW3, both in a legal sense and fallout from fans angry that it employed this jocksniffing weirdo who seems to have torpedoed an entire recruiting class.
I remember the stories about recruiting weekends from back when I was a student (some of which were no doubt embellished), but I guess I'm a little surprised these visits aren't more closely monitored, if only to insure that overexuberant fans don't do things that fall under the heading of illegal benefits--not that I don't think these benefits aren't a part of life at every school with any sort of athletic program.
But anything like this that happened on the visit to Columbus--the Buckeyes are probably going to have no choice but to drop the kids involved. Of course, they can't announce that because they can't officially talk about recruits, period. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

DJ Byrnes's picture

What's perturbing to me is that this guy was able to gain access to unsigned recruits in the first place. Even if I wanted to locate one of the big recruits when they came to campus, I would have no idea how to get around it. And wouldn't an OSU representative be with these underage players in the first place?
Bizarre all around right now. 
 

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

TXBUCK's picture

I bet that sick SOB is on here too.

Taspra's picture

If sex offenders or any other creep wants to find you they will find a way. There are MANY ways to do this these days whether it be myspace,facebook or twitter. Remember Craigslist killer? We had a news story not so long ago up here near Cleveland where there was a serial killer puttings adds in the paper for jobs. People would show up and he/they would kill them.
It's just a very sad commentary on the human race these days.

Lost nut in Michigan's picture

Ok, who let's a scumbag like this around recruits, how incredibly dumb.
If this guy is a perv, than cut off his buckeyes, and send him to prison.

Lost Nut in Michigan

BuckeyeVet's picture

Polesposition has some good points:
1. Less Ohio kids has its risks & rewards. Kids who didn't grow up idolizing OSU will be more likely to decommit, often in seeming random ways.
2. The national upswing in recruiting importance will make young men commit quicker than ever, thinking they are going to get closed out of a schollie, then decommit after thinking it over later.
Also -
3. We should always continue in the 11W tradition of wishing these kids well if they are trying to make the right choice for their lives. We want to be the classy fans. And who knows - if treated well when decommitting, they may later recommit. 
4. My father was a parole officer for 30 years and he hated, hated, hated having to monitor the sex offenders. The had the highest, BY FAR, recidivism (relapse & commit further crimes) of all the groups. And the pediphiles were the worst of the sex offenders. He'd take a murderer any day of the week over a sex offender. Convicted sex offenders should be banned for life from using social media - not just for a certain number of years. It is the #1 tool to contact potential victims.
5. No adult fan should be tweeting a potential recruit. Ever.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

Pam's picture

The problem with pediphiles is they can't be fixed. Sex with children is their sexual preference and the reason for the recidivism. There is no rehabilitaion. They can't and won't stop as long as they are not locked up where they have to be put in PC so they won't be killed by other prisoners.  Which is a shame

cbusbuckeye's picture

The shame is that the other prisoners get punished for giving these sick bastards what they deserve

Pam's picture

That is what I meant. I wish they could be put in GP. Save a lot of money not having to "protect" the scum of the earth.

FUqUespin's picture

The problem with pedophiles is that they are allowed to live.

FUqU, e!spin!!

the polesposition's picture

Want to eliminate pedophiles?  As soon as you identify a victim of sex abuse, you should kill them.  I am sure some if not all of the readers know where I am going with this.  As with most things in life, the issue is complicated and can not be resolved by a one size fits all solution.

DJ Byrnes's picture

+1.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

FUqUespin's picture

EDITED: I'm very angry about this right now and feel sex offenders (especially pedophiles) are not watched close enough.
From MOD: I understand people being frustrated & angry. Obviously expletives do happen. That doesn't need to be around 15 of them in one short paragraph.

FUqU, e!spin!!

Scott K's picture

Are you done?

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

FUqUespin's picture

OK Moderator - Fair enough.  Then you need to leave in the statement that pedophiles should receive the death penalty in states that have it, and for those that do not, then it should be life without parole and electronic monitoring even in prison in case of escape.

FUqU, e!spin!!

FUqUespin's picture

Moderator - There needed to be 15 explicatives - I held back 3 X that.

FUqU, e!spin!!

OSUkid23's picture

So now some Notre Dame fans over at irishenvy are saying that Alex is clueless...

jkrk's picture

Thing is, if the BW3 report is right, who wants these guys anyway? Not saying it is, but as a general rule: if you can waltz into Columbus less than a year after the Tatgate fallout and take free food, you are seriously an idiot and the kind of kid we don't need playing here.

Poison nuts's picture

^ Yes - No is correct.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

deadbuckeyeinthelake's picture

took  one look at  that guy  and  could  tell you he looked like  a pervert, 
 
how  can i tell  keeping my  3 kids  and  my 12 grandkids and   4   great grand kids  safe in this world is my  top priority

"Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!"

FUqUespin's picture

"Give me Liberty, and give pedophiles Death!"

FUqU, e!spin!!

OfficerRabbit's picture

I hope nothing really twisted occurred, I can't say that I can blame Alex for getting creeped out by a known pervert. Hopefully he can shake it off and continue on, and we as a program can shake it off as well. Still.... I can't help but hope that this freak has a serious "accident" in the near future though, wherever that may come from. Sick F**k.

 

 

Bucksfan's picture

Sigh.  Smh.  Fml.

VestedInterest's picture

What I fail to comprehend is the lack of direction given to these recruits prior to begining their official/unofficial visits. The speech is rather basic, mundane, but all too important...
"If you don't have the money in your pocket for things you receive, you're violating NCAA rules and will not be welcome at Ohio State."
Seems simple enough.

Scott K's picture

Ultimately, following the rules IS up to them.  You can't hold their hands constantly, wether they're a recruit or a signed player.
Break rules = punishment
Break rules repeatedly = gone

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

Alex Root's picture

While most people believe Neal was a top talent I think he was kind of an unexpected commit at the time so his loss didn't hurt me as much. But with Anzalone being such a highly recruited kid and everyone was so big on him. And he seemd to be all bucks and commited after the spring game this is pretty sad he decomitted.

TexasBuck11's picture

Just finished watching the Bucks and wisky game from this past season. It made me feel much better! There will be bumps in the road such as this news but if anyone can handle them, its Buckeye Nation. Keep your heads up, we are headed for greatness!
 
 
 

akronbuckeye31's picture

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=384313
Here is an article going a little bit more in depth about the situation.

dbit's picture

Sounds like the dad has issues with it.  
 
I wonder if we'll ever know what is/was going on?

Bj Mullens over Sully's picture

His dad shouldn't be upset with the university, he should be upset with Alex for making the choice to go out with some random dude

Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens

Rx Script Ohio's picture

You're the first person I've seen say this, and I totally agree. The whole situation is just unfortunate

TheBadOwl's picture

I'm not entirely sure what happened, other than that this happened at a BW3's. It's a generic sports bar, about as generic as it gets. It's not like they were out at a strip club or anything. This is all about one derranged asshole pedophile overstepping and violating NCAA rules. And the recruits unwisely accepting the dinner/drinks.
Honestly, it's a stupid rule. If it's someone affiliated with the university, sure, it should be a violation. If it's a fan, though? That's going a bit too far.
Honestly, these kids got a meal and a few free drinks from someone they didn't know. It's not like that was the deciding factor for them to choose OSU. And it was a freaking Buffalo Wild Wings. That place is not even that good to begin with.
But yeah. Sounds like Anzalone's parents somewhat overreacted and misplaced the blame a bit. This just goes to show you that in the Twitter age, you have to be careful about who you associate with.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

VestedInterest's picture

"I was concerned with what recruits do, and with them being allowed to visit these kind of places where it puts kids at risk. That's the issue. You entrust people (at the school) to do the right thing."

 
Seriously? Dr. Anzalone, if I'm not mistaken, they were at a restaurant.

larzdm's picture

Must've missed the new OSU recruiting pitch, "Come for the football, stay for the BW3 pedophile."
Seriously I understand being creeped out and everything, but this is not an OSU problem - this is a creep problem who could have been a fan of anyone.  I'm glad our compliance seemingly handled everything correctly and that (hopefully) the guy is not really affliated with OSU other than being a creepy head leaning creep.  I'm sure if he actually is affliated in some way or another, he no longer is, and also bears a striking resemblence to Lord Varys.

luckynewman13's picture

this has got to be the stupidest reason to decommit...a reason I don't really believe. And to say it was the coaches' fault is just dickish. Sounds to me like his dad never wanted him to come here and was just looking for any reason to tell his son no.
 
Good thing this kid will be safe from pedos in whichever California/Indiana/Florida/Pennsylvania school he chooses to attend (ha!).

BuckeyeW's picture

I'm with you on the first half, for sure. makes no sense to me. I'd be having conversations with my fellow verbal commits about how fucked up this guy is. at no point would I consider walking away from the school I just committed to over this guy.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Yeah, shame on OSU for not checking into the potential criminal background of any conceivable person Alex could have come into contact with during his time in Columbus.
Jackass. Screw them all.
Those posters who have questioned whether Meyer's recruiting efforts are a little too focused on out-of-state players just might have a point. The decommits are bad enough, but the gratuitous trashing of the school isn't something you'd see from Ohioans. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

juventas's picture

His dad has misplaced anger; shame on him for taking it out on our staff. 

Big Swede's picture

I got no problem with the kid decommitting because of this creep, but I do agree with you. I don't really see how the staff or school is at fault for this guy creeping on these kids, especially if it was off campus.

VestedInterest's picture

Just reading between the lines of course, but it has the appearance that Dr. Dad didn't want young Alex heading to Ohio State and this gave him all the reason he needed to haul in the reigns and assert his authority while he still can. All speculation on my part, but hey....

larzdm's picture

Agreed - unless there's more to the story (and obviously there could be) it sounds like OSU did the right thing throughout.  Wonder if we'll ever hear the full story.
Certainly respect the decision to decommit, unfortunate that the father blames the staff.

Scott K's picture

This.

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

jkrk's picture

Garbage. If your family isn't on board, fine. But don't have daddy tell everybody that something's wrong here and still be looking at Penn State. 

Scott K's picture

Erosion of family values...?

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

Jdadams01's picture

Well, good luck to you Alex

Bucksfan's picture

I just heard that Brutus is going to disaffiliate with Ohio State because of his picture with Creepster McGee.  Apparently Brutus's dad won't let him make a big boy choice.  More at 11.

luckynewman13's picture

thanks...I needed that chuckle

Sgt. Elias's picture

Brutus doesn't have a helicopter Dad though. Brutus' Dad was an Ent.  Best of luck to AA wherever he lands. Maybe go to Stanford and put some distance between yourself and the `rents.
The silver lining here is that pedo-scroat was outed and can be banished back to Kentucky/parole-violation/Hell.
 

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

Riggins's picture

Mr. Anzalone has every right to be upset that a pedophile got that close to his son.  He doesn't need to apologize for being upset or for being a "helicopter dad".
It's just his anger is misplaced.  It's a pedophile problem.  Not an OSU problem.

Muss_15's picture

Like you said, he needed somebody to be angry with.  Unfortunately, he chose our staff to take his frustrations out on.

Sgt. Elias's picture

Fair enough, "helo-dad" was probably too strong. But if he stopped, cooled off,  and thought about it before putting the university on blast he'd realize these goons are everywhere, yes, even the other schools on his son's list. There are probably pedos on Ice Station Zebra somewhere.  The best you can do is teach your children how to deal with real world contingencies. My parents had the pedo talk with me when I was in grade school. Dr. Anzalone's rage is indeed misplaced, and unfair to the university and staff. How were they to stop this sock-puppet from attending the spring game and tweeting kids until it was brought to their attention he was a freak? This whole thing sucks, luckily most external sources appear to be in agreement tOSU did what they could. I still have questions though.
 Who shows these kids around on a visit? Is their minder's freak-radar that broken or are the kids just turned loose in a chicken joint on their own? Why would any of our current guys want to eat at Chipoltle with this tub of sh*t?  So aggravating that common sense still appears to be lacking in some of our recruits and players after all the crap that's gone down.  But for all I know he just sat and stared at Cardale and the other kid watching them eat Chipoltle and never said a word in person. /shudders

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

Bucksfan's picture

If all you need to do to get someone disaffiliated with Ohio State is get a picture with Creepster McHeadtilt, can someone introduce him to Buck-I-Cowboy?

741's picture

Now that is funny.

Scott K's picture

Yes!  And the other fat face/body painted bafoons...please!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

Sgt. Elias's picture

YAIS

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

kr66osu's picture

I approve of this

juventas's picture

If Dr. Anzalone is a pediatrician, this might help shed some light on Alex's de-committment.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

The sex offender needs to go the fuck back to whatever hole he crawled out of.  
"Something's not right at Ohio State" - my ass.  Yeah, I'm sure everyone automatically knew the guy was a sex offender.  And I'm sure one fan represents all of Buckeye football.  If that's what they think, then good, get the fuck out.  Go elsewhere.  Go to Penn State since they're back in the running...yeah that makes sense. 

Class of 2010.

Ann Arbor Buckeye's picture

It seems pretty clear from Dr. Anzalone on SB Nation that his son's decomitting from OSU is directly related to the creepy Waugh situation.  This is a quote from Dr. Anzalone from SB Nation's article:
"You don't want your son to go to a place where there's a potential issue (like this)," Sal Anzalone said. "You expect the (football) staff to have some sort of control on how things are handled with recruits when they visit. This is ridiculous.
"I was concerned with what recruits do, and with them being allowed to visit these kind of places where it puts kids at risk. That's the issue. You entrust people (at the school) to do the right thing."

Yes there are two Buckeyes in Ann arbor on this site!

larzdm's picture

BW3s - gathering of slumlords one and all.

Scott K's picture

Right, because BW3's in Grandview (or any other restaurant anywhere) is a hotbed for pedos and the like?  WTF!?!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

Bucks's picture

I am less concerned with the the place & more concerned about the potential for what happened there. I have not looked at the O-Zone article that someone mentioned but remember the keyword - alcohol. Like I said, I have not read it and a link would be great.
Also, one thing that hasn't really been touched on are the hosts. Unless something changed that I'm not aware of, these guys would have had a current player attached to them. Granted, I'm not versed in recruiting so it may not have been the case with a '13 recruit. Guess Alex could shed light on this or one of the many knowledgeable commenters, staff, etc. Just don't know if they had someone around them or not.
--
As far as the Dad goes and his comments, I'm not really bothered by it. While he was critical and said some things I really would prefer he didn't ... he also stated he understood the coaches were unaware.
Bottom line - If we're talking about a situation where someone was around recruits that bought them meals & was also a convicted sex offender ... it isn't good but not the end of the world. If we're talking about the same as above with the guy providing drinks to recruits and current players there as well, it really isn't good.
I do wish that some member of the staff could give a non-binding leaner on the next week. Is there a decent chance we're reviving the Gray Box = Death or not that bad? Understand though that it may not be possible to do so.

southbymidwest's picture

Sigh. Creeps are out there hiding in plain sight. Call them hangers on, big fans, jersey chasers, groupies, every college team whether D1 or D3 has them. Of course, the more popular teams get more creepers. They are not only at OSU, they are everywhere, big town, little town, it doesn't matter. Even Stanford and Notre Dame have them. And unfortunately they often are not wearing perv mustaches or big red P's on their shirts. They have learned to become innocuous and non-threatening so that their prey's/prey's parents' internal radar does not go off, at least not at first.  It is hard to separate them out immediately from enthusiastic fans who have no ulterior motives. As to pedos, the typical pedo is a married guy with kids who lives down the street and has found a way to be involved with the age group and sex that they are most attracted to. They fool almost eveyone. Dr. Anzalone has to understand that in a short year, his son will be on his own, and will have to develop that radar, if he hasn't already. Creeps are not just trolling for athletes either. All kids and young adults have to develop that radar. Older daughter and friends at another university had to look out for the creeps who frequented the bars that were popular with greeks. These guys would hit on girls, ask them to dance, try to buy them a drink...ugh ugh ugh. OK, off my soapbox...

buckeyedude's picture

Maybe we can fix this creep up with the super tanned lady that got in trouble for fake baking her daughter?

 

 

703Buckeye's picture

The daughter already has it bad enough.

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

VestedInterest's picture

Candidate for the daily upper decker, I'll take Thursday.

703Buckeye's picture

Disappointed, not mad that Anzalone decommited, that's his choice. What I am mad about is Dr. Anzalone putting the coaching staff and university on blast for something out of their control, something that they took care of immediately when made aware of it.
Yet, Dr. Anzalone is cool with Alex considering Penn State; the school that let a pedofile on their coaching staff and allowed him continued access to the university for another decade. Dr. Anzalone is a toolbag.

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

southbymidwest's picture

This. I just don't understand his logic. 

Bucksfan's picture

After being outted as Creepster McBuckeyeStalker's favorite, Mild sauce is decommitting from the Buffalo Wild Wings sauce lineup.  When asked for comment, Spicy Garlic said that something's just not right with BW3's, and that Weak sauce...er, sorry, Mild Sauce...will be looking to take his talents elsewhere.

sarasotabcg's picture

Like many others, its time to step away from my rabid obsession with recruiting.
 
As for Twitter, OSU compliance warned fans to stay away from recruits. Had 'super fans' listened this situation coulda been nipped in the bud; if only a few 'super fans' are tweeting recruits its alot easier for OSU to check on them. But if there's 400.....
Besides, as a wise poster noted, if a recruit tweets something there's like 80 folks in the media there to retweet it for the rest of us anyway.
 
From now on, leave the recruits alone you fucking morons.

Brutus's picture

So have we calmed down from this somehow leading to the collapse of the entire 2013 recruiting class? I've read every article that's been linked on this site and so far, I cannot fathom why this is such a big deal. Some were claiming that Bosa was next to decommit. Why? Where does that come from? Others were saying this would lead to more NCAA infractions. How? Because they may have gotten free food at BW3? I could see how that would be a problem if a) these kids were actually currently affiliated to OSU and b) Creeper or BW3 were OSU boosters or otherwise linked to OSU.

I'm asking seriously, can someone rationally and coherently explain the worst case scenario for Ohio State from this mess based on the information currently available. If it's just losing one great recruit a mere two weeks after he committed and over a year before he's actually a Buckeye, then I fail to see why this story warranted nearly 200 posts. Not trying to be a sarcastic dick. I just don't understand why this is so huge.

Brutus's picture

Also, which is worse, having this creep as an OSU fan or Casey Anthony?

703Buckeye's picture

Did you really have to ask a question like that. Weak.

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

Rx Script Ohio's picture

Is this a serious question? Assuming you're basically asking who is the worse human being then it isn't even close. It shouldn't even be debatable. How is this relevant btw?

Brutus's picture

Sorry, didnt mean it like that. My point is that there are disgusting people all over and just because they choose to glom on to a particular team, it doesn't reflect on the entire program or fan base. I get the feeling from the some of the above posts that some are worried that this creep makes all of OSU look bad. He doesn't. Didn't mean to offend and I wasn't making a joke. I should have clarified.

Poison nuts's picture

Deleted - nevermind.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Poison nuts's picture

You may be spot on with your statements/assesments. I tend to agree with you & hope for the best myself....On the other hand you're talking to a fan base that has been through the wringer over the last year or so who desparately want the bad times behind them & this situation has probably put the fear into otherwise rational people who love their team dearly & don't want any more pain. The whole thing thing is unfortunate for sure but I would like to think in a couple months it will be a faded & distant memory.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Muss_15's picture

I, for one, am happy with how the university has handled this situation.  I hope Alex finds the right school for him.  It is unfortunate that this was the deciding factor, but I am not surprised.  I just wish the blame was not put on the staff because, in all honesty, the only people to blame are the pedophile and the system for allowing him to be out.

txbucknut's picture

There is no way Anzalone's decommitment is related to the Charles Waugh situation...I'm just not buying it. He must have been second guessing his commitment since the get go, and he and his father/family found this as a solid out, which is fine-because it is an uncomfortable situation, but I don't like how his dad is basically doggin OSU as a result. What's worse is he is now considering PSU..really?? PSU?? Need we forget that they were just part of the worst sexual offender/pedophile scandals in history!! He is free to decide where he wants to play pre-letter of intent, so I wish him the best of luck, but if he choses PSU, then I might just implode from the irony, considering his dad's words towards OSU.
On another note, I unfollowed every single current and future OSU player on twitter...it is just not worth the headache.

Ann Arbor Buckeye's picture

Anzalone's dad made it pretty clear it was absolutely about Charles Waugh and the safety of their son in Columbus.  His quote is posted in my earlier post.

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txbucknut's picture

I am well aware of what his dad said. I read the article. Just because that is what he stated, I still don't think that is solely what caused his de-commitment, rather just what they used as a smoke screen. His fathers comments/criticisms on OSU were unjust and unfounded. Again, it is understandable to be upset about a pedophile interacting with you child while on a recruiting visit, but to quote someone on an earlier post-that is a society problem, not an OSU problem. This guy had NO affiliation with the university, and the way it was handled, once compliance found out about it was swift and fast-imo. It is ridiculous to think that it could have been avoided...basically would be to expect OSU to background check all 81,000+ fans that attended the spring game. His father is a Dr. of some kind, so therefore has some intelligence, and knows better than to think otherwise. 

buckeye76BHop's picture

Agreed...it's a shame when adult men or women get on twitter to bash or stalk these kids.  Follow them to see what's going on...ok.  But as far as this creeper who probably was driving to BW3 in his big white fan must not be rehabilitated if he's tweeting and hanging out with 16 and 17 year olds.  Looks like Urban should "ban" twitter from recruits too ;-) Wow is all I can say about this whole thing...really hope what I've heard about Bosa is true.  We may be ok at LB's for recruits and current players.  But a guy like Bosa is a must get IMO.  Would make me stop following recruiting for A WHILE if shit goes down with Joey like it did with Alex (and possibly Lewis Neal).  He still hasn't said exactly why he decommitted...Smoke=Fire (which as one said above) = bad!

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txbucknut's picture

What have you heard about Bosa? Because I have been wondering about him as some people are starting to speculate as to whether he's waivering.

RadValtar's picture

I dont really see a bigger issue here outside of this one guy.  If someone else major happened while he was visiting then why would he have committed in the first place?  I'm guessing it was cold feet or pressure from family and this story put it over the top. 

Ann Arbor Buckeye's picture

I think the concern is that Anzalone wasn't alone when he met or took pictures with the creep.  So fans are waiting to see if other commits will leave over this too.

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Emily's picture

I don't see why his dad is ripping OSU. What is the coaching staff supposed to do: screen every person that enters the stadium or a restaurant beforehand?

Bucks43201's picture

Maybe Mr. & Mrs. Anzalone should have done a better job in teaching their kid common sense, with regards to some creepy who keeps tweeting him --- delete him.
I think Mr. Anzalone was pulling for PSU, and this is the perfect excuse for him to force his kid to decommit. Something is strange here. It's a bunch of BS that he's using this one incident to force a decommitment....your son is 18 years old...he's not a kid anymore. This guy just doesn't like OSU....and he's USING THIS to force his way through his son. GUARANTEE IT!
I know people are gonna say, "don't come down on the kid", I'm not - I'm coming down his parents. I don't care. My gut tells me something is weird. My gut is usually right.
In the long run, we don't want somebody this wishy-washy.
What the hell was this creep going to actually do? Come on - REPORT IT TO SOMEBODY & THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT! It's Ohio freaking State. Tell the coaches, the complaince office, the police, the FBI, whoever --- I promise, the problem would have been taken care of.
Rather have a true Buckeye through and through, who sticks to his commitment and isn't steered by some paranoid/alterior motives parents.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Sgt. Elias's picture

I can't believe he'd go to PSU if his dad is this fired up over one freak in our fan base. How could he square that to junior and himself logically? I dislike it when it seems like the parent(s) are overly involved in a kid's school selection at this level of football (unless Dad played college ball too & would have that first-hand insight). Let the kid go where he wants unless he's choosing Kent St. over LSU or something rediculous. Even then, at that age you, have to start giving a kid more rope. I saw way too many sheltered or extremely ignorant kids get eaten alive in their first year of college because Mom & Dad either didn't have a clue or were too scared to let the kid learn a bit before they turned `em loose in a college town.  
None of us know the whole story and never will so this an exercise in futility, it sure does hit a lot of hot-buttons though. We can all agree pedos need to combust, no chance or redemption there.

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

Bucks43201's picture

This Dr. Anzalone seems like a real a$$hole. There, I said it. I don't care. Honestly, I think he's a die-hard PSU fan...and he was looking or a way out of his SON's commitment. Daddy met with some PSU coaches last week, btw.
And, noooo I'm not calling him an a-hole for wanting to steer clear of a pedophile...every parent would want that...it's this phony excuse he told SBNation about it being "ridiculous"...like the coaches and control every second of a recruit's visit. Let him go to PSU...watch for Sandusky, though.
Too bad...the kid can play....but he's got a paranoid control freak for a father.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

DMcDougal24's picture

Not that anyone has been eagerly awaiting my opinion, but I've been trying to wait for things to settle down before posting..
My first thought was Joey Bosa. I like Alex Anzalone plenty, but I hope that they can keep Bosa. Given the connection between Bosa, Anzalone, and Heuerman from the Spring game, that is now in doubt.
My second thought was what I'll describe as understanding disappointment with the comments made by Alex Anzalone's father. I can certainly understand his concern with his son being so close to a person convicted of a disturbing sexually-oriented offense (calling him a sexual predator is perhaps unfair after what appears to be an isolated incident). To expect for universities to be able to monitor all visitors 24/7 is an unrealistic expectation. If there is more going on, I hope that we learn of it quickly. But, if not, Anzalone Sr. took some unnecessary shots at the coaching staff for conduct that they could not have improved.
My third thought was that Alex made many choices leading to this decommitment. I know it's taboo to "come down on" a kid so I'll try and be as politically correct as possible. Alex chose to follow this guy on Twitter. He allowed these "motivational tweets" to be sent daily without action. He chose to meet Waugh after the Spring Game. He chose to pose for pictures with him. He chose to put his finger out and point to Waugh. If there was anything going on that evening that Waugh provided (alcohol, perhaps) that we don't know about, Alex made choices there as well. OSU could not have done a thing about this. 
My fourth thought was pondering what in the world went down with Heuerman before he had his change of heart.

DMcDougal24's picture

Also, not sure what to make of this..

Edit, he did just tweet that he was referring to Lewis Neal.

ThirdLegLouie's picture

Sprinkle was talking about Anzalone & Lewis Neal.. no biggie

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ARMYBUCK's picture

@43201, After your 6th post of saying the same exact thing I think we get it.  Not sure you do exactly.  How was he to report something he was unaware of?  Pretty sure that friggin weirdo {Gay slur redacted} didnt introduce himself as a sexual predator.  Its really hard to blame anyone in this situation except for that nasty {Gay slur redacted} whether you disagree with his decommitment or his dads reaction or not.
 
Moderator comment from SGT. ELIAS: Come on dude, read the commenting policy. Don't lump pedos with consenting adults who do their bedroom biz differently than you or I.  We don't attack others like that here. Just sayin'

Bucks43201's picture

@ ARMYBUCK -- I get it. Believe me. I don't think you do, though. I'm not saying he was to report something...but, rather, if push came to shove & this one lone creep was the deciding factor - then you report it. His dad either is overreacting or has alterior motives. Get it?
Yes, the main guy to blame is the BW3 creep. But, it just looks like this recruit's father is using this incident to blow up a big issue & use it for a decommitment.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Buckeyejason's picture

This sucks, yes..but let's not be too down about it, we brought in a shit load of LB's in the 2011 and 2012 classes. 
 
Shazier, Grant, Crowell, Roberts, Perry, Williams, Marcus, Perkins. 
Thats alot of depth already for a position that will only have 2-3 on the field at once. On to the next one!
 
 

BUCKEYES BABY!

pcon258's picture

its a shame that this is why he de-committed, but frankly, i cant blame him. I love ohio state, and there are people like this unfortunately in a lot of places, but coming into such close contact with someone like that would freak anyone out. for someone who hasnt fully experienced the awesomeness of osu, that would be a dealbreaker. 
I just really hope that he harbors no hard feelings towards osu. also, I hesitate to judge the parents. We have no idea what exactly transpired. It could have been that he just felt really freaked out, but didn't want to drop a machismo image, so his parents kinda took the blame. like "sorry guys, my parents are bein d-bags, i've got to decommitt."
 

VestedInterest's picture

Yeah but still no call for Doc to be throwing the staff under the bus, He acts like they introduced his son personally to a known pedo, c'mon man, nobody does that.

pcon258's picture

thats a good point, i forgot that part of the article haha, yea, bashing the coaching staff is pretty douchey, but ill just chalk it up to losing his inhibition because of rage 
 

VestedInterest's picture

How many times do you think that he could have counted to ten in the week they say they discussed their options? :)

highwire's picture

This is kind of on topic, but not really insightful. I was born forty-five minutes away from campus in 1991. I grew up watching complete domination from JT's teams. Back then, to a young kid, the Bucks seemed like an unstoppable force. Win after win, and lead by a coach that in my eyes most resembled a super hero. Unfortunately, as soon as I was old enough and involved enough to understand the ways of the NCAA football world, all hell broke loose. Now, it seems that with every bit of good news there comes a time when all you can do is cross your fingers and hold your breathe. I'm sick of it. The staff did nothing wrong here. I hope I'm not coming off as a whining ass, because that is not my intention. I think we'll be get through this okay, but I'll be damned if it isn't frustrating.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Ummm, who cares. Wake me up when football starts. Until then, can we at least talk football? Like, actual football. I'm really not interested in where every athletically talented 16 year old athlete took a crap this morning.

703Buckeye's picture

We should all care. This doesn't just impact recruiting, this has the possibilty of becoming something larger. I don't think this will become any worse than what it already is, but it is something to care about.

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

Sgt. Elias's picture

ESPiN has an article up now. The good Dr. Anzalone is backpedaling from his earlier RAEG.
"The elder Anzalone said he held nothing against Ohio State coach Urban Meyer and co-defensive coordinator Luke Fickell, who recruited the player.
"Ohio State had no idea that this guy was a perv," Sal Anzalone said. "They were totally unaware. Let's make that very clear. That's not Ohio State."
But Alex was creeped out by him. He thought something was wrong. Alex wasn't going to get hurt. Alex could knock him out. But the point is, this creep shouldn't be near recruits"
That sounds more like a rational father would. Good on him for that.
WUT IZ THIS?:
"His father said he might even still consider the Buckeyes.
"It's a possibility," Sal Anzalone said. "Things change. You can't hold them responsible for other people's behavior."
 

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

DMcDougal24's picture

Help me understand.. He says it isn't on Ohio State, but in the next sentence says that the point is this creep shouldn't be near recruits.

Sgt. Elias's picture

I can't help you understand because I don't understand either. Seems like Dad may be realizing his earlier statements were made while angry and he's trying to position junior in the best light possible without coming out and saying: "What I said earlier was bullshit, I was just really angry and let fly at the wrong parties. I had 'DAD' rage, as you may know it is wildly unpredictable when one feels one's cub is threatened."

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

Poison nuts's picture

I'm guessing the man is just freaked out by the whole thing. If it's my kid in a photo with a dude like this - I'm angry & probably not very rational...I might even blame anyone I could out of pure frustration & helplessness. Doesn't make it right - just throwing out my best guess.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

hodge's picture

Gotta say I agree.  I'm 22 and without kids or siblings, but if I had either I'd be ready to snap. Hell, I still want a piece of Ben Roethelisberger because he was aggressively hitting on/creeping out/being a general douchbag to my ex girlfriend. Can't imagine what I'd do if I had kids...

dbit's picture

I think the family just freaked out, had a scary realization that bad people can fool ya, and that once the initial shock of this wears off, I think he'll be a Buckeye.

RedStorm45's picture

You simply can't monitor every single interaction a recruit has while on campus.  You take them to get food, their waiter might have some past crime.  They're walking around campus and a shady guy is there.  I mean, do the Anzalone's think that all players and recruits need security with them 24/7? That's ridiculous.
That said, this will probably sound insensitive, but a lot of kids are just asking for this kind of thing to happen (obviously not explicitly).  A lot of recruits and players try to get as many followers as they can.  "I want 10,000 followers." or re-tweeting every fan of a certain school who tweets them during their decision process.  Of their thousands of followers, how many do they know? You can't check out every person who decides to follow you.  You're putting yourself in the public spotlight at a young age, and I'm sorry that there are 1 to 2 percent of the population who are either creeps, pedos, rapists, alleged murderers, etc.  There is simply no way to protect yourself unless you limit access or do background checks on every follower.
I think it was last week or two weeks ago when myself and Recruit Buck thought the obssession with recruiting tweets was going too far with the constant updates of tweets.  Obviously we didn't think this type of thing was possible, but the point is that now more than ever kids are putting themselves in the public eye at a young age.  Every fanbase has a couple nutjobs and it's very unfortunate what took place.
Very concerning quotes from the family - He came back and said something wasn't quite right at Ohio State.  WTF Why did you commit then? Eh, this place seems kind of "off" but yeah I'll commit here.  What??

Orlando Buckeye's picture

Is there anyway our crack team of investigators can trace this Waugh idiot back to Michigan?

Ann Arbor Buckeye's picture

THis is starting to look to me like they were looking for an excuse to get out of thier commitment to OSU.  Maybe he wanted to look around at more schools before deciding.  

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Bucks43201's picture

To Sal Anzalone: GET OVER IT!
1.) Maybe Sal should have been checking his son's Twitter account if he's soooo concerned.
2.) Ohio State doesn't need Alex Anzalone as much as Anzalone needed Ohio State.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

CincyOSU's picture

in regards to point #2....I beg to differ. Statements like that are the reason we are often looked at as an elitist fanbase. Anzalone essentially has his pick on where he can go to school, to imply that OSU is the ONLY place he can be successful is kind of arrogant don't you think? I hope we can still convince him to come back but trashing the kid bc he changed his mind is kind of childish.

JigNSwig15's picture

i agree with @cincyosu, LB is a position of need for us. anzalone was a big get, like it or not.

Bucks43201's picture

OSU is elite. We're loaded at LB. Move on to the next commit. This kid's dad is a trouble-maker. I'd rather have Kimbrough -- he wouldn't waver like this. Anzalone - go to PSU and be mediocre.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

VestedInterest's picture

The man's offspring was just photographed with a pedophile, he's a little steamed, let him vent. There's no way you can conclude he's a trouble maker. He wants to kick ass and take names, as a parent I can relate.

CincyOSU's picture

Dude you're nuts, you and British should join a support group together. We are NOT loaded at LB...Anzalone was a HUGE get for us. "Rather have Kimbrough"...last week you and every other OSU fan on this kids nuts. Last week he was a stud, now he's going to be mediocre...what changed? Oh, bc he won't be in an OSU uni then he must suck. I get your logic...You're like the guy (MOD: Removed b/c personal insults aren't needed.)
"Go to PSU and be mediocre"...what kind of person are you? Should I wish your children to be mediocre as well because they don't like the same TV shows I do? I come to 11W to AVOID posts like this.

biggy84's picture

Ease up on the personal attacks Cincy! The guy is entitled to have an opinion whether you like it or not. 

Sgt. Elias's picture

Eh, you missed some of the earlier crazy. Feelings are running hot tonight. 

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

biggy84's picture

Cincy is always attacking somebody on here. Just because someone doesn't believe the way he does, he attacks them. Check out his history on here. 

CincyOSU's picture

Biggy -  Think what you want, I "attack" those that post nonsense, such as wishing a "mediocre life" or 'pain" on a 17 year old kid simply bc he decommitted. Why aren't you calling out those posters? If that is "calling out someone who doesnt agree with me" then I will NOT apologize. It's embarrassing to see our fans act like that.
Mod - Not sure why part of my post was deleted, that was an analogy...not a personal insult.

CincyOSU's picture

Additionally, 1) you obviously don't know what an elitist is. It has nothing to due with OSU being an elite program...I can see your confusion though. 2) Do you know Kimbrough personally? Ever hang out with him? Do you know his upbringing? How can you possibly act like you KNOW what someone you have never met before would do or act in a certain situation.

highwire's picture

Anzalone would have been great...but he would have been made great...Marotti can make a badass out of anyone...

zbd's picture

OSU is going to be like Penn State unless they keep pedophiles away from players and recruits.  Hell, the public can't even watch practice.  How does a pedophile get inside the football team?  I wouldn't let my kids play at OSU either.

biggy84's picture

@ zbd- research the info.

Sgt. Elias's picture

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

Ann Arbor Buckeye's picture

He had nothing to do with the team of the school.  He ran into them on campus after the spring game.

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Bucksfan's picture

Jeez, guys, over-analyze much?  Can't we just let this silliness blow over without dissecting every tiny nuance?  This dude really isn't worth the bandwidth.

ThirdLegLouie's picture

Line of the night, sir! This really isn't worth the bandwidth. Kudos.

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Alpo's picture

Wow, it just sucks that we even have to be talking about this. Great new head coach, great new staff, great new recruits, great new attitude towards our program... Now, pedophiles, and decommits

Alpo's picture

It's just a shame that one bad apple(horrible apple) can single handedly take away our future! If I was the kid who took pictures with the guy I would be creeped out too... But I wouldnt eliminate my number one college bc of some psycho. They are everywhere unfortunately...

Poison nuts's picture

Nobodies future has been taken away. Step away from the ledge - things aren't that bad.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Irricoir's picture

Really, the state of Ohio needs to make wearing TOSU gear an executable offense if you are a celebrity for the wrong reason. Example= Casey Anthony, ect..ect..
(Jokes about wearing Ohio State gear are too predictable so save them, trolls.)

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

ghalephoto's picture

C Anthony is innocent...

hodge's picture

Jesus, I don't want to see this debate on here...

ghalephoto's picture

Did this guy buy lunch?  Did he pick up a tab?  Yes he is whacked and his issues should be dealt with on a more extreme level, I don't get what he did other than get his photo taken with a recruit. 
I have 2 kids both in Big Ten Schools and the stories they tell about the athletes in public and how they are treated would put every school on probation.  The creepiest thing I have heard is about the photo op's with guys who look like they sleep in their parents basement.
So, the difference here is this guy is a recruit? Bull, he wanted out, and his Dad used this as an excuse.  Unless this Waugh wipe was buying lunch and giving these guys gifts, this is nothing more than a creep having his creep mug in a photo with a recruit.  I don't get the uproar.
Plus this was reported by the Lantern...(Kings of the bogus photo passes) hard to give any respect to that pub.

Schack21's picture

I was having alot of fun following recruiting on 11w but this crap makes me not want to pay attention until the class has signed on the dotted line. I understand that these are 16/17 year old kids, but I miss the days were giving your word ment something. Them you have (twitter) not going to get started on that one!!!!!!

Schack

DJ Byrnes's picture

yes, back in the days when 18 year old kids were all headstrong and decisive, lol. what isn't twitter blamed on these days by people over 35? 

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Northbrook's picture

PissThistles are back. Hello pissthistles.

Idaho Helga's picture

As a parent, I understand being temporarily freaked out over a pic of my child w/ a pediphile; especially one I am hearing may have provided meal/gift to my kid.  With other good offers on the board I can't say as I condemn the knee-jerk reaction to decommit.
IF he goes to Penn St however, I really DON"T understand at all.
If this guy gave them alcohol at the restaurant he goes to prison (again?) deservedly so.  Already a probation violation is clear.
We need more linebakers so this is unfortunate but not the end of the world.
What sucks the most is like tatgate, this has the sad possibility if more recruits decommit to paint us again on eSECpn in a very negative light when in reality...it's a small thing compared to crap done by {insert long list including USC, Miami, Oregon, blah, blah}
 
 
 
 

chrisrexOSU's picture

I fail to understand why people are that interested in these recruits anyway.  It's creepy to track the stats on a 14-15-16-17 year old and watch their game footage because they MIGHT come to OSU and they MIGHT end up playing awesome for us.  Football is awesome and I love being in the 'Shoe on a fall Saturday afternoon, but that's the fall.  These guys don't need their play and decisions scrutinized by anybody, adult or otherwise, and there's not guarantee they'll be any good at the next level.  Let these kids live their lives and stop worrying about what guy might come here.  We'll win whether this guy comes or not.

dbit's picture
southbymidwest's picture

So wait a minute-a 2013 commit takes a visit to another school, then decommits, then his dad throws OSU under the bus with comments about the OSU staff and the creep, making the national news, when it might not even have been about the creep and more about a 17 year old getting cognitive dissonance (the term that is used when consumers make a major purchase like a car, house, or major life decisions like picking a college, getting engaged, etc., and then almost always post-decision start wondering if they made the right choice) about his college choice? Come on, man!

ekeith21's picture

After reading some of the articles about this story it sounds like anzalone is using this excuse to back out of a decision he wasn't quite sure of. It appears that his dad lives his life for him and makes all his decisions for him. If this kid seriously decommits bc of this then we really don't want this pansy on our team. There was no way Ohio state could avoid this issue. Unfortunately there crazy people everywhere. Picking another college isn't going to protect you from the bad people. Best of luck to you kid. Hope one day u make your own decisions for yourself and not let daddy decide your future.

CommandHead's picture

There's a pay-access article on Rivals with the teaser that "Anzalone Speaks"... can anyone summarize what he said??