11W Recruiting Mailbag: 2013 Progress

By Alex on April 12, 2012 at 1:00p

We're back with another edition of the 11W Recruiting Mailbag and things are starting to clear up a bit on the recruiting trail.

For a football stand point, Urban Meyer now has eight players committed to the class of 2013, with the pledge of Marcus Baugh, but there are still about 10 spots left to fill in the group and things are starting to make a little bit more sense now as we move towards the summer.

As for hoops, thing are picking up a  little bit as well as the spring signing period began yesterday and the Bucks are awaiting decisions on a few prospects. With Jared Sullinger and William Buford definitely gone, along with Jordan Sibert having one foot out the door, there is certainly a need to add some players to the roster and Thad is doing everything he can to get that done.

Join us after the jump as I answer your latest questions on football recruiting, basketball recruiting, and more. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the mailbag questions and for those that didn't, there will be another one in just a few weeks so get those minds moving and questions ready.

With Marcus Baugh as a Buckeye now, which player out of Mike Heuerman/ Josh McNeil do you think OSU takes as a second tight end?

This is a good question because the Baugh situation really caught everyone by surprise, even the coaching staff. I think last week you would have penciled in both McNeil and Heuerman, but now only one is likely to be in this class. Heuerman is the number one tight end on their board and if he wants to be a Buckeye, which I believe he does, he will get the spot.

What happened with Robert Foster's visit?  Posters on this site have referenced other sites in saying that his visit did not go well.  You seemed to indicate that the staff was not pleased with him either.  

From what I hear, and I can only go by that, Foster showed an extreme disinterest in a few things, such as academics, while on his visit and it got back to the staff. It appears the coaches were not happy overall with the way he acted on the trip and decided to "go their separate ways" following. Foster has since come out on Bucknuts and said all is well and he plans on taking an official to Columbus, but I am not buying it. I think Foster is trying to salvage the relationship with OSU and the overall perception on him after this news leaked, but I don't see him in this class as of now, where as before the visit I had him as a Buckeye lean. Shame because he's a great player, but Urban cannot take a chance with character in recruiting this year.

Is Green in or out?Derrick Green would be a good fit for OSU

Ezekiel Elliott said that the staff was only taking one running back. We're certainly deep at running back and I really like Elliott, but can we turn down a hard working player like Derrick Green who has always wanted to play in Scarlet and Gray?

This situation is difficult to read. Green told me he was pretty sure the staff would wait on him and also said OSU had a big lead. Now reports come from Rivals yesterday that Clemson has jumped OSU as the leader. I can only go with what Green himself told me and that is that Ohio State was in a pretty good spot, so I guess we have to just wait and see how this plays out in the next few months. I do think Ohio State is willing to take another back in the class as Elliott will be used as kind of a hybrid back/receiver, meaning someone like Green has a chance to come in and play more of a traditional role. I'd like to see the Buckeyes take Derrick Green and I think there's still a good shot at that as of today.

Is there a way to get people to stop saying: "He could be the next Percy Harvin"? 

That's another good question and unfortunately, I think the answer is no. How many times have we seen a two way stand out and said "I hope he can be the next Chris Gamble". I think any time you have a coach with a player that had a lot of success in a certain role, this will happen. It doesn't end until Urban Meyer finds the next Percy Harvin. Maybe in a few years we'll be saying "He can be the next Jalin Marshall".

How many defensive tackles outside of Billy Price do we take this season and who is the most likely player/players to take those spots?

I think in addition to Price, the staff may take one other tackle. I really think they will go with three total defensive linemen in this class and are looking at a pool of Bosa, Daniel, Poggi, Latham, Hurst, Munger, Sprinkle, and a few others. I see one true defensive end, one true tackle, and maybe someone who could go either way. Right now it's too hard to tell until after some visits.

Outside of the no brainers (Cravens, Bell, Fuller, Hargreaves) does OSU take any more corners/safeties? Our secondary seems pretty stacked but I know we have chances at least at Caleb Day and Mackensie Alexander. Does Jayme Thompson's commitment impact whether or not we take one more?

I think OSU will go with one more player from the secondary unless two "you take them no matter what" type players want to commit. I really think the number one guy on their board is Dymonte Thomas and I think they have a better shot with him than with Bell, Alexander, or Cravens. Thompson's commitment makes the Bucks take only one more instead of two more, but if there is another secondary player, you can bank he'll be a good one.

Leading up to and right after signing day it seemed like the 2013 class had lots of momentum going and it looked like a top three class was a mere formality. In recent weeks it seems like that momentum has dropped off some. I know its going to pick back up at some point, but with recent developments with some of the top players on our board do you think the class will fall short of expectations? Where do you seeing it ranking in the end?

I don't think the class will fall short of expectation. Right now OSU is a top three class in "star average" and I think it will finish that way. The class may be in the Top 5 or Top 10 just because it is smaller than most other classes, but talent-wise you are looking at a Top 3 class and maybe the best class in the nation when it's all said and done.

What quarterback(s) do we get in the 2013 class?

I think the Buckeyes would ideally like to go with two quarterbacks. I think in the end they will get two out of three in JT Barrett, Aaron Bailey, and Mitch Trubisky. We won't know anything until after the spring evaluation period when they can see everyone throw, but I think any one of those three would be solid, with two being very good.

What are our chances on landing Laquon Treadwell?

The great visit on Monday was a great step for Ohio State, but there is still work to be done. Michigan was definitely the leader early on, but I think some other schools like OSU and Oklahoma (where he'll visit tomorrow) have caught his eye. He won't decide until after his senior season so we will wait for a little while, but he's a great play maker who you wait for. I don't see him in the class as of today, but there's certainly a chance if things continue to trend upwards for OSU.

There has been very little buzz around Courtney Love and I wonder if you could shed some light on his recruitment.  Is he already in as a silent verbal?  Does he have a committable offer?  If so, is he a lock, and if not who else is he considering?

I have a source that is pretty confident telling me Love is in the bag for Ohio State. I trust this source pretty well and am confident in the next few weeks (maybe at the Spring Game) you will find out that Love is indeed a Buckeye.

How is the recruiting database you have mentioned as a work in progress for the site coming along?

Funny you ask because we are currently behind the scenes in the process of figuring out how we're going to make this work. We're looking at continuing to vamp up recruiting coverage including some potential staff moves and bringing you a database/hub where you can find all your recruiting needs. As always, we want to make sure we get it right when we roll it out so stay patient. To help your recruiting fix, you can start to follow @Dave11W who will be one a side kick of sorts to help with the site's recruiting coverage for both hoops and football.

Tony Parker has been hard to get a read on, who are his two front runners?

Very hard to get a read on. I know back in the fall Tony was all Ohio State, but his parents were all Duke, so they decided to wait things out. During the winter Kansas made a huge play to get in, as did home state Georgia, Memphis and also UCLA, with the help of some of their recruits. OSU was on the outside looking in, but late events have Kansas likely out after Danny Manning left, Memphis losing momentum, and Georgia with not a great chance as well (I never really saw him there). I think Duke, UCLA, and Ohio State are the three schools in the mix here and will be interested to see how this plays out.

Are there any other recruits outside of Parker that we are in the running for in basketball?

After Parker there aren't many high school seniors in the mix, but one to look for is Amedeo Della Valle of Findlay Prep in Las Vegas. Della Valle is an Italian playing high school ball in America and is hoping to bring a solid guard presence to a major program next year. Michigan stopped recruiting him yesterday after Trey Burke came back, leaving Arizona, Texas A&M, Ohio State, and Gonzaga as the finalists. Della Valle is supposed to visit Columbus next weekend, but let's see if that visit actually happens. I have him out for this class for now.

As for other options, you have to look at transfers. While they most likely can't contribute next year (unless extenuating circumstances), this will help down the road, especially in 2013-204 when DeShaun Thomas is likely gone. The name everyone is buzzing about is Rodney Hood of Mississippi State. Hood is good friends with LaQuinton Ross and would be a great get for the Buckeyes. Looks like it is OSU or Duke there.

If we don't get Tony Parker, do you see Matta using the scholarship on maybe a local kid or do you think he banks it till next year?

I don't think Matta will reach like he has in the past with a player like Zisis Sarikoupolos or someone like that. If Parker, Della Valle, and Hood all go elsewhere, I think they bank the scholarships for 2013 and load up in that very talented class. Even if Sibert transfers, the Bucks will still have Ravenel, Thomas, Smith Jr., Craft, Thompson, Williams, Ross, Scott, Weatherspoon (pending he stays), and McDonald. Matta only plays around 8 anyway, so the fact that only 10 scholarship players will be on the roster is nothing to be concerned with.


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FortMeyer's picture

Thanks for the answers Alex! Great job as always!

Maestro's picture

Cool.  Love the thought of a database on this site.

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BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

Alex killin it, as usual.


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As a premium board subscriber on scout I have to admit it does'nt really compare to 11W.  Definitely appreciate the work you and the rest of the 11W staff do Alex.  Since Im currently deployed you have no idea how much this site means to me!  Thanks.


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Army, stay safe, and thank you for your service.


Alex's picture

Thanks to everyone for the kind words, but esp you ArmyBuck for your service as well

BIGHEC39's picture

Stay Safe My Man.  Go Bucks.....




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I can only imagine how nice it would be to keep some connections to home, and what better home than 11W.  Be safe and God Bless.

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BIGHEC39's picture

Hey Alex If the Robert Foster trip to Columbus was not as great as we would like it to be and also not beeing able to get a good read on Laquon Treadwell, who do you think the buckeyes will land at receiver and how do you feel about it? 


Thanks For The Great Article.  I look forward to this article every Thursday. 

BigHec From Southern Cali.......


Alex's picture

I think Foster is out by Urban's choice...I just feel Treadwell will go elsewhere, but I could be wrong....could be a sleeper for that third receiver spot but James Quick is quickly vaulting up the list

buckeye76BHop's picture

Love Quick Alex...Really hope he ends up in this class.  Great WR, returner...pretty much total package.  Like you said...Treadwell and Quick with Gibson (who I think is in) would be GREAT! Do you think Quick ends up a Buckeye?

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

smith5568's picture

As we discussed before, I am a huge fan of Quick. In addition to his playmaking ability, he is a great blocking receiver. Most of the hardest hits from last years Trinity team came from him. Check out Daylin Dawkins highlight video and you will typically see Quick blocking downfield, and happy to be doing it. 

bassplayer7770's picture

For one, I'm pretty high on Devon Allen right now...

Jdadams01's picture

This. Gibson and Allen would be a nice to finish out the WR class. Quick is certainly not a bad choice either.

buckeye76BHop's picture

I like these choices with an addition of Treadwell...just hope they come to OSU.  Especially Gibson, Quick and Treadwell...they're electric and something that would help the "lack of play maker" for SURE!  Allen is good but I'm not sure he comes to OSU from AZ (although Baugh may change that perception...hopefully).

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

bassplayer7770's picture

Allen's father played baseball at tOSU, and, if I remember correctly, his Mom also went to tOSU.  Alex, correct me if I'm wrong.

EDIT:  Okay, I think I might be wrong about his Mom...

rjsmitty's picture

His Mom ran track at Mizzu

"I don't wanna coach average! To hell with that!"  -UFM

O-H-I-Owe-U's picture

Yes. The kid burns.

ericbo's picture

I like Allen as well. Either Allen or Quick would be a great get in my opinion. I like both over Gibson and Treadwell, but honestly will be happy with any combination of the 4. It seems like this years WR class is very good and OSU is going to bring in some big time talent at the position. God I cant wait for football.

Denny's picture

Oh no no no not Courtney Love no no no


buckeye76BHop's picture

It's a shame Foster may turn out to be a head case who's not interested in academics and everything that comes with being a "student" athlete.  I watched his film and was very impressed (like I'm sure many were) but I noticed the thing he did with the ball after scoring.  I told a couple of friends of mine about it and they thought I was CRAZY bc he was slightly disrespectful to refs by doing this...instead of being classy and just giving them the ball...now my impression may not have been so crazy after all.  Too bad bc I really hoped he was a level headed kid...I'm glad the staff decided (at least to this point) to leave him alone bc OSU doesn't need another TP or anything like that.  Good choice bc talent isn't all OSU is looking for...still sucks though.  Hope Treadwell and a few other WRs pan out.  

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

Hopalong's picture

Has anyone heard anything on Jabari Parker? He just one the Gatorade High School Player of the Year as a Junior. What are the odds that we land Jabari Parker in next years recruiting class?

aboynamedtracy's picture

I can get behind your plan to "vamp up recruiting coverage" as long as it's more Nosferatu & less Twilight (*sparkles*).