Wednesday Skull Session

By Chris Lauderback on July 20, 2011 at 6:00a
More than worth the price of registration

So, I've never been to a football camp as a participant before.

In my youth, football camps obviously existed but with playing on baseball traveling teams every summer there was just never time.

And though I played football up until high school, I stopped at that point to focus on baseball and basketball for fear my then 6'2", 160 lb. frame would be forever bent if ran a few routes at WR and that just wasn't worth risking the opportunity to play the other two sports.

That's why yesterday evening was so cool for me.

As you'll recall, 11W partnered with Chris Spielman's football camp, offering $20 off registration, leading up to the three day camp that culminates tonight at Dublin Coffman. You might also recall that during that same post, we mentioned a partnership with the Stefanie Spielman Fund for Breast Cancer Research as we look to pull off a legendary tailgate leading up to Ohio State's showdown with Wisconsin on October 29th.

We'll have more ridiculously awesome details on that soon but suffice to say, that partnership is why I found myself at Spielman's camp last night and after a long day at my real job, I was admittedly not all that excited about the drive around 270 and the impending wait in the oppressive heat. Then I arrived at the field.

Chris Spielman is the real deal. I know it's already undisputed fact but to my all time favorite Buckeye out there with these kids trying to teach them far more than football was something to see. The guy's intensity is just so genuine and I've never met anyone so passionate about their values. To kids looking of range in age from 7-13, Spielman commanded attention as he talked on their level about the value of giving time and of competing to the fullest, no matter the task, test or sport.

These kids were far too young to have seen Spielman play and despite growing up during an impatient, me first, results now environment, they were on one knee staring and listening intently to Spielman's words of wisdom - very few of which were about football. 

Anyhoo, I need to get onto your hump day Skully but I just wanted to remind everyone how lucky we are to have Spielman in the Buckeye family and suggest you make a note on your calendar if you have kids so they can be a part of something special when Spielman's camp comes back to Columbus in 2012.

Where you at, Vandy? With the NCAA accepting LSU's self-imposed penalties including one year of probation, two scholarship reductions this year and next, and a 10% reduction in recruiting vists over the next two academic years in response to five self-reported major violations committed by a former assistant coach, Vanderbilt is now the only SEC school not to have been slapped with a major violation since 1990.

If you are looking to draw positive conclusions to Ohio State's impending hearing, I guess you can take away that the NCAA practically dry humped LSU for their self-reporting prowess and ongoing cooperation. Conversely, the negative spin is LSU's situation was void of media fabrication creating a firestorm of backlash and trials in the court of public opinion ahead of any NCAA hearing based on fact, potentially pushing the COI to over-penalize in hopes of calming rhetoric and asserting control.

Hide yo kids - the fundamentals are coming! During a radio interview with Detroit's WDFN radio yesterday, new Michigan DC Greg Mattison made it pretty clear he's working from the ground up as he efforts to bring the Wolverine defense back from sieve status to respectability.

Somewhat comical was the notion that a proud defensive school like Michigan will be spending the bulk of practice time working on the fundamentals. I know all coaches give that line but when you're talking about the 110th rated defense of a season ago, I almost took Mattison's comments as a swipe at the previous regime and their inability to properly implement basic defensive fundamentals:

All defenses start with the exact same things, and that's being great on the fundamentals. And that's tackling, that's delivering a blow, that's running to the football and communicating. Those things, it doesn't matter who you have – if you have a great team or if you don't have a great team – you start out that way and then the next thing you do is you take your philosophy on defense and then you tweak it or make it so that your players can execute it at the highest level.

I'm pretty sure Gerg didn't do so good in that regard. All swipes aside, Mattison is a obviously a coup of a hire for Hoke and it's hard not to expect they'll be a nationally ranked defense once they can recruit the kind of talent he needs to carry out a legit defensive scheme.

Another day, another scheme. Following his suicide on Sunday, the NCAA is asking questions out AAU basketball organizer and financial planner David Salinas upon learning he bilked numerous college basketball and football coaches out of thousands of dollars via a fraudulent investment scheme.

With the SEC breathing down his neck, Salinas took his own life leaving a slew of unanswered questions. The four letter reports the NCAA isn't currently planning to launch a deeper investigation however Fox26 in Houston says NCAA investigators have contacted Moses Malone Jr. to inquire on his knowledge of relationships between Salinas and a number of former basketball players and coaches, and whether or not any of the investments by coaches were made in exchange for steering players to their respective programs.

Malone Jr. said coaches such as Alvin Brooks (U of Houston assistant, former head coach), Mark Turgeon (Maryland) and Doc Sadler (Nebraska) were specificallly brought up by the investigator.

As for which coaches were taken to the financial cleaners, ESPN notes Billy Gillespie, Lute Olson, Sadler and Mark Few are just a handful of many. Expect more names to surface in the very near future.

This story comes on the heels of Jim Donnan's reported heavy involvement in a ponzi scheme that netted the former UGA footbal coach millions of dollars.

Why isn't being loud when your team is on D good enough anymore? Rittenberg tells us Iowa has announced their three "color games" for the 2011 season, complete with nifty nicknames.

For the September showdown against Pitt, Hawkeye fans have been told, "Be Bold. Wear Gold." Catchy, that is. It gets more complex in October as fans are instructed to wear either black or gold depending on their even/odd section assignment as Iowa takes on Northwestern. To cap the awesome display of coordinated fandom, Iowa's annual Blackout will occur on Senior Day against Michigan State.

In related news, Tim Dwight is circulating a petition that would properly rename Kinnick Stadium to Gimmick Stadium.

Ready. Set. Collage. Indiana football is going retro...If the horns fit...Generic names for soft drinks map...Sticking with maps, how New Yorkers see the USA.


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Hoody Wayes's picture

I'm sure the NCAA strikes some as hyper-aggressive, lately. It's going after everybody.

Is this a warning shot? Mike Slive speaks:

“I have a sense that there are several of us that feel like change is important and addressing these issues from a national perspective is important,” Slive told The Associated Press. “And I fully expect that we will do that, and I fully expect that the SEC will make every effort to contribute to that discussion and hopefully the appropriate action following those discussions.”


I think the NCAA better watch out.

Denny's picture

I agree that stadium theme nights are chintzy, but when Iowa (and Boise) both did striped sections last year, it was pretty damn cool.


bukyze's picture

I was at Purdue for their "black out" game against us back in 2007.  It was a HUGE game for them, and the stadium was still 65% full of OSU fans.  During the entire fourth quarter, as we continued to shut them out, the entire OSU faithful mercilessly grilled them with chants of "black out shut out!".  But of course we sent in our 3rd team defense for their final drive, and they ended up scoring on 4th and goal with 10 seconds to go.  The OSU fans were so loud, trying to help OSU preserve the shutout.  After the game, all the OSU fans went out and took over all their bars.  Good times!

blazers34's picture

dang, that sounds fun.  i was at the 2009 game  :(

Pam's picture

That game will always be a head scratcher for me.

Joe Beale's picture

I remember watching that and thinking that no one should ever do a "black-out" or any kind of "-out" with a dark color. It makes the stadium look less full than it actually is. Penn State has the right idea.

buckeyedude's picture

I've always called it "pop." I hate when I go on vacation and they ask me, "would you like a soda, sir?" So I intentionally ask them, "you mean a 'pop'?"

Soda sounds way to feminine to me, and should be left to those weirdos on the east and west coasts.



RoweTrain's picture

Woah.  I may be strange in a few ways but I'm definitely not a weirdo for living on the east coast and calling it soda.

"Just bow up and go out and play." ~ D. Lee

"As it stands right now, I know I am the best athlete in college football." ~ B. Miller

Nappy's picture

I grew up in the Dayton area and always called it pop.  When I moved to Indy, everyone here called it soda.  Everytime we went grocery shopping in college I made sure to point out there was no "Soda" aisle, only a "Pop" aisle.

I never saw a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face

Riggins's picture

I call it pop.  I can live with people calling it soda.  The weirdest thing I've heard is in the south.  They call every kind of pop a "Coke".  "Would anyone like a Coke today?" "Yes, I'll have a Sprite/Mountain Dew/Dr. Pepper."  It doesn't matter to them if it's a non-cola.  Coke (headquartered in Atlanta) has brainwashed them and rebranded all pop as "Cokes".

Denny's picture



AcrossTheField11's picture

However, not as widespread and indoctrinated as what Kleenex and Chapstick have accomplished.

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

unless you're in texas.

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ih8rolltyde's picture

Merciless was the torment from other 6 year olds when we moved to Alabama and I asked for a pop. "Would you like a coke?" "sure". "what kind would you like?" May still be the most dumbfounding question my then mini-brain ever came across.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

NoVA Buckeye's picture

apparently, new yorkers agree with us: michigan is canada

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

RedinMichigan's picture

As opposed to Columbus, the arm pit of America.

Signs point to a resurgence. Be afraid.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

have you heard of a little s hole called detroit?? and that's all michigan can point to. well, i guess there's flynt too.



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GoBucks713's picture

i lived near detroit for a few years. We found a body in the ditch in front of where I worked. We called 911 to report a body, and covered it with trash bags. The police and coroner didn't show up for 6 hours. I moved out of MI 3 weeks later. If you can't trust the police to do their job, or Kwami Kilpatrick to not hire his relatives to not do a job, then there's no reason to live there. And the fact that most of the state is swamp land.

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

I had a buddy in HS that moved to Lake Orion because his dad worked for Delphi and they closed the local plant. Went up there to visit once and thought lake orion was nice(minus that MI stench). But when we went in to Detroit, no F-ing way. Talk about a wastland....


I know everywhere has their S-holes, but Michigan has no major city with a redeeming quality.

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Denny's picture

But did u watch '4 brothers' starring markie mark


SouthBayBuckeye's picture

thank you. another awful thing about that state. i almost forgot.

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Kalamazoo Steve's picture

The U.P. is very nice in a Deliverance kind of way.

bukyze's picture

I think we could help the federal deficit just by annexing the whole damn state to Canada.

BucksfanXC's picture

Man, Detroit is nice if you know where you're going and what you're doing. There are pockets of greatness surrounded by plight. The casinos are fun (cept they still allow smoking), there are countless great dive bars where they serve beer in cans and have blues bands nightly, there's soooo much history even if some of it is neglected and falling apart: They have theaters for the music history buffs, where greats like Segar, Iggy Pop, all of MoTown, Alice Cooper, Ted Nugget, etc. got their starts; it has automotive and engineering history galore, it's where the assembly line and every great automotive innovation in the last 100yrs was invented; not to mention the sports history, Pistons, Tigers, Lions, Red Wings...well at least the Red Wings, and boxing. Give Detroit some credit. It's no Columbus, as far as property values, police/health safety, or dining. But Columbus is no Detroit when it comes to a lot of other things. My mother-in-law lives in Detroit (within the city limits, unlike a lot of people who say they live in Detroit), and it's a great place to visit and live.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

SouthBayBuckeye's picture (badge) engineering history galore.


There, I fixed it. Detroit hasn't made a enw automobile that's mattered in DECADES. That's the reason(one of them) why those companies needed the billions they took and supposedly repaid.


Seriously though, I'm sure it has some OK parts, just like Orlando, FL etc. Every S hole has a cool bar. There are cool dive bars that serve beer in cans in nice parts of LA too. It's more a novelty than anything.

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BucksfanXC's picture

Yeah, but has any car company done anything that mattered in decades? All they do now is add more computer components to cars. Touchscreens, blu-tooth, sensors, maintence updates emailed to you, etc. And yeah, by the way, all those things were innovated in Detroit too, I just would brag more about you know, the Mustang, the Edsel, the Corvette.


I just get upset when people who have never been to Detroit, bash it based on what they read in papers and see in the news. It's a lot like what's going on with OSU football right now. If you believe everything you read on ESPN, you think we are all liars, cheaters and scum. Detroit's the same way. Photographers came into town for months on end snapping pictures of broken down crumbling buildings, completely ignoring brand new ones built next door/across the street. They'd report houses sold for $500, but not talk about the $200k ones being built. That's the media for ya though, report what sells.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

I'm commenting more on the practice of certain detroit companies of introducing "new" cars that are basically just old ones from their other brands. same engines, slghtly different pannel same problems.


Edsel is a bad example....


If they stop spitting out the SOS year after year they'll be fine, I just think they're in for another failure in a few years.

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Kalamazoo Steve's picture

Love Tiger stadium, but if I knew where I was going and what I was doing I wouldn't be in Detroit. Lake towns in the summer is what makes this state, not dive bars sprinkled around boarded up buildings and houses. They're trying, no question. But they are losing population so rapidly it makes me worry about the states financial and educational future. We could have giant Flint II on our hands. I have friends around the city because not one of them wants their kids in Detroit's public school system. That has to change because the casino isn't going to move it in the right direction.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

I read somewhere that the functional literacy rate in Detroit is 40%. Ouch.

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BucksfanXC's picture

Yeah, the schools and the police are definitely the biggest problems, that's what keeps/attracts residents which is what brings in money, so it's a vicious cycle. But the area around Wayne State's campus is nice and clean and safe. Right downtown around Comerica/Ford Field/Fox Theater is also nice/clean/safe. Really everywhere is safe, you won't get randomly killed anymore than you will in any downtown area, but the police will never find your murderer and not care if they ever do. The old glass factory is cool, Atwater Brewery, Cass Tech, etc. there are cool things to do/see and they aren't in the nicest looking areas, but you'll be fine unless you go in there looking to stir up a gang war or to buy/sell drugs or something.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody