Tuesday Skull Session

By Johnny Ginter on June 21, 2011 at 6:00a

Happy Tuesday everyone, and welcome to your morning Skull Session. Today's Skull Session is brought to you by Netflix.

Right now I'm watching The Sting on Netflix; not a movie that I thought I would ever willingly set out to watch, mostly because I think I somehow mixed it up in my brain with The Big Chill. Which is also supposed a very good movie, but as a kid I saw the movie poster for it, immediately assumed it had something to do with Phil Collins due to the fact it was from the 80s and everyone in it looked like dorks, and made a conscious decision to never watch it under any circumstances. That is really unfair to The Sting, since so far it's pretty great. But this Skull Session intro isn't about yours truly.

As Luke pointed out to me, Netflix has firmly sunk its neon claws into the backs of the Ohio State football team. Players, once devoted to a simple life of scholarly pursuits, football, and Lawrence Welk are now beholden to the constant stream of mass entertainment from their video game console devices. It is a sad, sad commentary on the state of the modern collegiate athlete that they cannot pry themselves away from their television for more than a few hours at a time, before ultimately coming back to their precious moving pictures.

Still... the complete X-Files series... nnngghhh... can't... resist... Oh who am I kidding?

Netflix number one movie service in the land/ TV shows and movies, right at your hand/ Netflix on your console or on the Roku box/ Your family will all say, "NETFLIX ROCKS"

Netflix, you're the service for me/ You're the only one/ I'll ever need/ Netflix/ You're prodigious/ Got 60% more stuff/ Than Hulu does/ (TM)

Just In Case You Didn't Already Know January 1st is usually one of the best days of the year for Big Ten fans (at least in theory). The Notorious B1G participated, in a loose definition of the word, in five bowl games on New Year's Day this year, thus creating a perfect 24 hour excuse to nurse an epic hangover while lying face down on a tattered couch in your basement. Unfortunately, 2012 will not start out the same way: since January 1st falls on a Sunday, you will not be watching college football all day. Instead you will be watching professional football, which is such a horrifying proposition that it makes me want to vomit. Your normal slate of Jan. 1st bowl games will be moved a day later, and you can enjoy the sublime intricacies of the TicketCity Bowl via ESPN's gamecast or something while you sit angrily in your chair at work.

CFB Programs, Makin' Bank USA Today has a pretty interesting breakdown of the kind of revenues that some of the big time Athletic Departments in the US are bringing in, and in 2009-2010 there were 22 schools that had a "self-sufficient" athletics department; that is to say, there were 22 schools that managed to turn a profit. Ohio State was #3 in revenue generated, after Alabama and Texas, but #21 profit, ahead of only Washington.

Looking at the chart, you might be a little ticked that a school like Penn State can rank #3 in profits while OSU barely breaks even, but it's no coincidence that PSU sponsors 29 varsity sports and has roughly 88 million dollars in expenses, whereas OSU sponsors 39 and has close to 123 million dollars in expenses. Outside of the Big Ten, Oregon managed to post a nearly 42 million dollar profit. I wonder what they decided to do with all that money...

Well, Here's Where 25k Of It Went The name Willie Lyes has been connected to Oregon for a while now, as a middleman who has supposedly been steering recruits to the Ducks for a fee. Recently, some Oregon newspapers have gotten documents that have detailed the university's involvement in the world of shifty recruiting, and, well, I'll let NBC's College Football Talk's blog lay it out:

In late February of 2010, Oregon purchased for $25,000 from Lyles’ Complete Scouting Services what was described as a “2011 National Package” that detailed recruits from several states.  The only problem?  According to Schroeder, that package for 2011 contained zero recruits that would make up the following year’s recruiting class.  Instead, the vast majority of players highlighted in the 143-page book UO received from Lyles contained data on members of the 2009 recruiting class.

Our own Kenny Guiton was included in this package, which was more or less useless. It also had a dead guy. But hey, when you're just accrued 42 mil, I guess you can afford to make it rain on a shady recruiter every once in a while. Keep in mind, while hilariously stupid, this is not a violation of NCAA rules, per se. Could it lead to something more? Possibly. But like Dr. Saturday says, that's just how Oregon rolls.

It's About Time When you've got a sport where the majority of players are an ethnic minority and only 15% of the coaches at the FBS level are minorities, you should at least talk about the issue. And luckily that's what the NCAA has decided to do.

I don't view this as any sort of political, Affirmative Action-type thing. The reality of the situation is that for whatever reason, minorities have never been hired on a consistent basis for head coaching positions in college football, and it is something that needs to be addressed. Head coaching positions are difficult enough to attain; tearing down the additional hurdles that minorities face in obtaining jobs that they're qualified for, by encouraging schools to expand the scope of their search, is a goal worth achieving.

#showerbeer Til The Water Runs Out Yuengling's coming to Ohio, y'all!!! YUENGLING'S COMING TO OHIO! ...I've never had Yuengling.


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GoBucks713's picture

Johnny, This has to be the best news in Ohio in years. I have two cases here at home left over from what i brought back from OBX a few weeks ago. When is the 11W tailgate??

-The Aristocrats!

GoBucks713's picture

To add to this, Yuengling is my cheap beer of choice. When i'm looking for a good tasty beverage i normally turn to something i've either never had before or something that i haven't had in a long time. Newcastle or anything from Dundee's are good ones for a quick grab, but you have to beware of the skunk factor for Newcastle. There's only one beer worse than skunky NC, and that's Bud Light.

-The Aristocrats!

Lee in Altoona's picture

When I was a student in the mid-1990s, I used to bring cases of Yuengling Lager and Black & Tan back to Columbus with me each time I went home. All my Ohio friends who tried it loved it. But let's be clear, this was before the microbrewery revolution. I would suspect that Columbus has better beer selection now than it did in the first Clinton Administration.

Yuengling is a great beer. But Pennsylvania has better microbrews now, like Troegs, Appalachian, Erie, Blue Canoe, Victory, etc... I suspect Ohio does too.

slippy's picture

For college students this means wonders.  You (at least a few years ago) can get a case of bottles for $15.  I'd buy that every time over any of the other American pisswater.  I'd rather a Great Lakes or Bell's or something but in college that was out of reach to drink on a regular basis.


I've always preferred microbrews but in college I couldn't afford it.  Yuengling moving into Ohio won't affect that market...they're going after the casual drinker and the one who drinks to get drunk.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Yuengling is a very slept on American instituition; "i don't drink beer much, but when I do, I drink Yuengling. Stay thirsty my friends".

I had my first one out here in 04; when I do drink, that's what I drink.

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AcrossTheField11's picture

Yuengling sucks.  Pennsylvania sucks.  Cheers to good beer and the people with mature pallets who drink them.


Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

Denny's picture

Beware skunked Yuengling. The only worse skunked beer is Newcastle.

Even skunked they're still better than Bud Light/Miller Lite/Coors Light though.


AcrossTheField11's picture

Or you have the Rolling Rocks, Coronas and Heinekens of the world, which I think may be skunked from they day they are "brewed".


Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

Denny's picture

Also, Netflix does not just prey upon undergraduates — it's a signifiicant hurdle standing between me and my finished dissertation.


Buckeye in Athens's picture

Dogfish head is my go-to, though Yuengling isn't bad.

Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Regarding the revenue report.  Note that only 8 of those programs are stand-alone programs.  The others are augmented by student fees and other "unnecessary" sources of funds. ;)  Every one of those programs, from little brother on down that received a subsidy would NOT have turned a profit without taking money from the mothership.


The reason tOSU is at the bottom is that the debt service on the 'shoe (and Bill Davis and Jesse Owens Stadiums) is paid out of Athletic Department coffers.  Not sure if Oregon used football money to refurbish Autzen and build up their other facilities.   Phil?  Phil?  Maybe Phil Knight knows.  Some other programs (I don't care enough to do the research) received state and/or Federal Grant money to build their facilities up.  Fear not Falcon, Golden Flash and Zip fans; your tax  dollars didn't get used to expand the greatest football stadium on the planet.

On the wall guarding the North Coast from all Weasel invasions.

Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

OH, by the way, Yeungling, while a good cheap beer, is still just a cheap beer.  Being the best of Pabst, Little Kings et al does not make you a good beer.  Kind of like claiming you're number 1 for winning the MAC.  You'd still get your ass kicked in the 'shoe.  

For me?  Great Lakes Brewing Co.'s award winning Elliot Ness.  An Amber Lager.  Or in the spring, Great Lakes' Conway's Irish Ale.

On the wall guarding the North Coast from all Weasel invasions.

btalbert25's picture

I had always heard about Yuengling and good it was.  I was driving to Florida and in either Tennessee or Georgia I saw it.  So I bought a 12 back.  Let's just put it this way, I hated it.  I don't know if I got a bad pack or if maybe it's just not for me, but I didn't like it at all.  It had a bitter aftertaste that reminded me of a cheap ass NKY brew Wiedeman or Stroh's.  I didn't like it.

Can't believe Rolling Rock was mentioned negatively above.  I love it.  Plus, since Bud bought it and you can get it canned now, here in Northern KY you can get a 30 pack for 15 bucks.  Anyway, I enjoy it. Everyone has their own taste though.

Are athletic departments really supposed to turn a profit?  Some people are proud of how much money their athletic department makes, and I don't get it.  Isn't the whole point to reinvest into your department.  I thought that money was best used for funding other sports, bettering the facilities, and paying for recruits.

scrappled's picture

I grew up about 35 minutes from the Yuengling brewery and it was pretty much all I drank for about three consecutive years at Penn State.  I can't stand the stuff now.  First, because I have an ongoing jihad against green-bottled beers.  I don't know why they do it -- they use brown bottles for most of their other beers.  Second (and related), as the infinitely wise Dennymayo pointed out, it's downright toxic when it's skunked.  But people undeniably love the stuff when it's cold and fresh, and I'm glad to see the brewery expanding westward instead of north-south like it always has.  They've been sort of the anti-Starbucks -- very incremental expansion despite people begging for it.

I hope you guys get more than just the Lager (which, yes, can substitute for currency in Pennsylvania).  Yuengling's porter is absolutely fantastic.  So is the Black & Tan.  I generally stay away from the others.

Denny's picture

All of these are good points, save the first effective trolling notion.

The Black and Tan is marvelous — I just wish it was available in cans here in DC so that I could sing 'Banging Camp' while drinking it (Well when they say black and tans/you know they mean the kind from the cans/I ain't got time to mix it all together/I'm a very busy man, man).

And never, ever, ever touch Yuengling Light, you guys. Ugh.


scrappled's picture

Yes, do not go near the Light Lager.  The Premium Light isn't terrible but you can get better beers at that price point.

m1ek's picture

Yuengling sucks. We dranked Straub. Even went to the brewery once in the one semester I had a car up there. Damn near bottomed out the Saturn.

Matt's picture

I once accidentally purchased a 6er of Yuengling Light because I wasn't paying attention when I opened up the refridgerator door at the corner store.  That was a bad day.

btalbert25's picture

This may be what I had and hated.  It was truly awful.  Maybe I'll have to check out some of the other offerings.

collisionbend's picture

Yeungling's? You haven't been missing much. Yeah, it's good, cheap beer - and possibly the best good, cheap beer - but like Todd-Not up there said, it's "[k]ind of like claiming your (sic) number 1 for winning the MAC."

It's what you do when you're the cream of the crap.


"There's a fine line between perception and reality." -- Luke Fickell

BuckeyeSki's picture

Pabst Blue Ribbon called and would like a word with you sir

Banned from BlackShoeDiaries since 2008. Crime: Slander/Defamation of Character Judgement: Guilty

RBuck's picture

Off topic but:


Cargate no more. BMV 1, Dispatch 0



















Long live the southend.

Pam's picture

BMV 1 ESPN -1,000,000,000,000

Colin's picture

ESPN says no wrong doing, but the Dispatch made it clear that they investigated whether or not state laws were broken, not NCAA laws. I'm not certain we are in the clear about this one just yet.

NW Buckeye's picture

According to The USA Today:

"According to the 65-page report, no evidence was found that Buckeyes players and family members received below-market deals for purchases at two Columbus dealerships. Such an arrangement would constitute an NCAA violation."

The Dispatch is trying to cover their butts.  As you pointed out even ESecPN concurs with the above report.  The only thing I am certain of is that the hacks will continue to hack away at this, now trying to prove that both tOSU and OBMV is complicit in this.  After all, Jill RipEmOff has to protect her award winning butt. 

TKOSU24's picture

hey --- what's up with the Kalis kid (OL for '12) .... thought he was solidly re-committed after talking to Fickell, now he's taking a trip up north to scUM ... hope he doesn't defect to the dark side

Mike's picture

The Big Chill is weak sauce...the only thing good about it is the soundtrack.  All the characters are whiny and went to Michigan.

Recently, I've been enjoying all the old Alfred Hitchcock movies on the netflix.  Those are top notch.

GoBucks713's picture

The best flick on Netflix is "Run Ronnie Run". It actually is a movie that every person should own.

-The Aristocrats!

GoBucks713's picture

If any of you go to Louisville, check out Cumberland Brews. They make some of the best beer you've ever had. Their honey nut brown is amazing, and they make a pretty darn good IPA.

-The Aristocrats!