Last week, we told you this was coming and it finally came to fruition today as Terrelle Pryor has decided to end his Buckeye football career.
Through his attorney, Pryor released the following statement:
"In the best interest of my teammates, I have made the decision to forego my senior year of football at The Ohio State University."
When asked if he planned to enter the NFL's supplemental draft, his attorney, Larry James said "I think so."
Ohio State released the following statement from AD Gene Smith:
"We understand Terrelle’s decision and wish him well in this next phase of his life. We hope he returns to The Ohio State University one day to finish his degree."
And the following statement from head coach Luke Fickell:
"I was notified this evening that Terrelle has decided to pursue a professional career. I wish him the best in his pursuits."
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and so it begins, the Braxton Miller era at Ohio State.
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Miller time indeed
Terrelle Pryor, you are f*cking out
Matt your always on point with the "your f***n out" good work. I'll follow that up with a "nothing is f***** here"
I will have a Caucasian tonight in Joe Bauserman's honor.
Taquitos.
Give us the money or we f**** you up.
It's more like Miller Light time, unless he puts on 20 pounds I'm really scared one of his chicken legs could be snapped in half on a scramble.
He enrolled early, right?
I'm sure they have him working on that. Let's just wait to see what he looks like when he shows up to camp.
(just think of the glorious pictures on that day!!)
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+1. I feel like a creep that day, but I don't even care
I thought he looked a little beefed up in the spring game pics already.
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Yeah he was noticeably bigger in the spring game.
this thread deserves a #NOHOMO
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Good call. It was gettin a little awkward otherwise.
I would not be surprised if we see Joe Bauserman take the majority of the snaps in the first few weeks (kinda like when TP first arrived) and they slowly work Miller in over time.
I have serious doubts that he is as polished as Pryor was coming out of high school and I think that, while he is the future of the program, he is not ready to take over the reins.
I may be wrong.
...And when we win the game, We'll buy a keg of booze....And we'll drink to old Ohio til we wobble in our shoes...
I think you kinda have that backwards. The reports were always that Braxton was more polished of a QB than Pryor was at that age, Pryor was just a freak of nature athlete so he could run away from everyone when he got into trouble.
Secondly Todd Boeckman(sp?) was a starting Senior not a bench warmer when TP got here. Miller starts game one.
It's unfortunate, but necessary...Pryor playing this season is more a liability than anything else.
For those that think this may lessen our chances to win, I submit that a unified locker room for a first time coach puts us in a better position than Pryor's legs ever did.
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You're so right. Time to start the chemo.
"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)
Even on a 4th down against Iowa?
Brax is pretty fast too...
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Exactamundo
I don't buy his PR statement about his teammates. But good luck to him...
"We have a quarterback, obviously, that's kind of ridiculous running the ball." - Urban Meyer
Did we chase him off or is there some dirt under the rug?
Yea, supposedly Yahoo was going to break the big story this Summer. I'm beginning to think that that story involves us. They've known something for a long time and are just dotting i's and crossing t's before they release hell. This is never ending.
They said it wasn't OSU though. I remember them saying the Ohio State thing was about an 8 out or 10 but something bigger was on the horizon. So even if they didn't know about all this new information I still think some other school is going to be revealed.
Oregon's video tapes? CamGate at Auburn?
Coca Cola's secret recipe? Einhorn is Finkle?
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Please, for the love of God, let some other school feel the media blaze. We've suffered enough casualties.
Even if it is another school though, ESPN won't make it as big as they've made all of our troubles. The Oregon and Boise violations were pretty big deals too. Would've been nice to see hours upon hours of discussion and endless prodding going their direction
Boise State's worst violation was for what? Women's Tennis. Weren't the football violations for recruits sleeping on player's couches? Ohio State's problems were big, and we only have a little bit of the information. It could prove to be a whole lot worse.
I am a little concerned as to what this means regarding the month of August.
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Whats this about Kenny G being in pictures at the Rife parlor AFTER the tatgate news broke? So we'll be down to three schollie QBs.
One of whom is Bauserman.
Don't worry about Bauserman, it's Miller time now.
where is this picture you speak of?
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Matt, did you get the mod email we sent?
I didn't get a mod-related email, but I did get an email from Ramzy. I was unable to respond to him though because I was out of town on vacation last thurs through monday and am now slammed at work. I intend to get back to him as soon as I can.
Well, bye.
Please, be honest. This is for science.
Sad to see it happen, but glad it's happened now rather than later. More reps for the other guys.
Side note: Pls can we come up with a better Beer than shitty Miller Lite for Braxton I feel like he deserves better.
Taquitos.
How dare you. Thats my everyday beer of choice. Take it back now!
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I'm sorry...
not saying for that. could be your beer choice though.
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It's not my favorite (Fat Tire, Hacker Pschorr and Shiner Bock) but when you want to drink 15 of them, it's cheaper this way.
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Ok, Miller High Life.
Kind of hoping his middle name is 'Boddington', really.
Taquitos.
Or Samuel Smith?
Well that's just silly. No reasonable person has four names. It's even worse than having two first names.
Taquitos.
Lewis Lewis.
This guy?
Taquitos.
Holy Shite. I was thinking of Richard Lewis's "brother" on Curb Your Enthusiasm. Was not prepared for that little bomb you just dropped....wow.
So a liar lied to another liar and will not be coming back for his senior year, who woulda thunk it!!!
Holly crap, where did you people come from? I was one of the few voicing my displeasure about Pryor and I have done that for more than a while now. I took a "Virtual" beating for my comments which didn't detract from his on field capabilities but stated my utter displeasure for his leadership capabilities and possible character issues. (I don't know him personably, it is just perception) I have always thought his actions were a distraction (A cancer as someone above stated) but rarely saw anyone post the something similar. I am not calling anyone out in name though I am not exactly happy with what I am reading here.
First, Terrell Pryor, thank you for your positive contributions to our team. You hoped to leave a legacy and you did though it isn't a flawless one by any stretch. I wish you well in your endeavors and until something more incriminating comes out (Hope there is not) you will have my best wishes at the next level as well.
Second, on the comment about him looking out for the best interest of his teammates, that is very endearing. It is hard for me to really trust TP after all of the confusion. Example: I sold my stuff to help my poor family. A little later, mom buys him a Nissan 350z. Not an extremely expensive car but if son has to sell his property to support mom, why is mom buying him cars to drive? Anyhow, I will take him for his word at this point.
Third, everyone above has been quick to move on and dump him. Little to no one has wished him well or thanked him for his positive contributions. (As of yet) I certainly hope Buckeye fans are not that fickle and cherish all former players as members of the family until they do something that utterly alienates them. I can see more to come but I hope that it does not. Until that time Pryor has my best wishes.
I am judging no one above but until this post I had seen nothing but defenders. Now I see a lot of folks turning their backs. I have been the most vocal about this man and even I try to have enough compassion about the situation to wish him well. Come on folks.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
I am sure there are some folks out there who see TP as the catalyst for what happened with Tressel. Of course JT did what he did on his own BUT it is impossible to separate TP and JT at this point.
What did JT in was his absolute belief that his way of dealing with misguided youth could save them from themselves. Had TP had the same learning curve as Troy, we simply would not be in this situation. Perception is reality and the reality is, Tressel is beloved and TP is the villian. Simple as that.
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No fear of a domino effect on this? The rest of the tat5 leaving, I mean?
Class of 2010
The Buckeye fanbase (and most of the country) has really put the blame on Pryor's shoulders, whether that is fair or not. Plus the other players aren't flashy with their arrogance or stupidity as Pryor. People really hate Pryor, not so much the other players, so they won't get the ridicule that he would've everytime he entered the Shoe.
Yea the other guys have been an afterthought throughout this whole ordeal. I'd be surprised if any of them go.
Taquitos.
Good luck TP and thanks for the memories. The throw to Ballard during the Rose Bowl, the run on 4th down against Iowa - thanks man. Don't let any coach try to move you to wide receiver, because you're a heck of a QB.
In college he was. I hope he proves me, and most others wrong, but he's not an NFL QB. He would have as good a chance at WR. He got better as he played, but he didn't make the leap everyone was expecting. He can't get away with the things he depended on in college when he's in the NFL.
I'm just sad to not see him play this year, because I think he was about to make that leap.
He was a very good quarterback last year. Not Heisman good, but extremely dangerous. You could tell he had really grown. He'd still have the occasional groan-inducing interception, but overall we had a very dangerous offense last year.
I am sad that we won't get to see whether he could have pulled it together or not.
still get goosebumbs on that play.....
"Pryor. Slips away, throws it. In the air. Caught!! And there's our man BALLARD!!"
-I agree with you, I am thankful for the excitement and success Terrelle brought our university over the past three seasons. Won some huge games for us. Will always regard him as a special talent, will never forget how awesome it was when he signed with us weeks after NSD. With that said it's time to really grow-up, the protective collegiate bubble has finally burst around him.
Pryor, Thanks for all the great runs. Thanks for coming in as a freshman, and thanks most importantly for playing for a lot of fans that didn't like you. That buckeye tatoo you have well always be there, unforuntatley so will peoples thoughts about you. But, I will remember you as one heck of a runner, and a sweet stiff arm!
One thought, now that our coach and qb is gone shouldn't we recieve less punishment?
"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03
Depends on whether it can be proven to be a systematic problem, or isolated incidents.
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D, in theory, we should. Look at a team like USC though. Bowl ban last year - 5 years after the fact. Scholarship reduction and another bowl ban this year - 6 years after the fact.
The NCAA hands out punishments to the school, regardless of whether or not the infractions were made by people currently there to serve the punishment.
USC punishment was harsh in part because the then AD, Mike Garrett, and school did their best to not cooperate.
BIG difference
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But again, Garrett is gone. Carroll is gone. Bush is gone. The RB coach who I can't remember his name is gone.
They get off scot-free (well, the RB coach got a show-cause); or even better - Bush got his family a house plus now is making millions. Carroll got millions from the school and is now making millions again.
The NCAA punishment is now affecting kids that were in middle school when this went down.
Garrett was outsed after the sanctions were handed down, FWIW.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
What Jake said. Trust me, i listen to KLAC on the to and from work every day. The main reason the appeal was denied and the sanctiosn were this heavy is because USC tried to block the investigation any way that they could.
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SouthBayBuckeye, I'm from Orange County. Its nice to see a Californian on here.
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Nice. Hopefully it's beach weather this weekend.
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I envy you both.
Where in Orange County?
I live in Seal Beach and work in Newport Beach.
I'm always around Newport/Hunnington.
I live in Fullerton. Right near Cal State Fullerton.
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GF's sister just graduated from CSUF
I live in Manhattan Beach.
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Uh-oh. All of the sudden this is a real SoCal party.
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You ever go to the alumni group for games?
I have 8 trips to the Long Beach and Anaheim areas over the next few months - any places that are must see? (other than how to not hijack a thread)
yeah, but none of them are in Anaheim or Long Beach.
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Could explain the length of the investigation. No way it takes that long if all involved were helpful to the NCAA.
People don't get it: We have self-reported and found everything so far. USC didn't and refused to. There's a big difference. Its kind of like pleading guilty and pleading not guilty. If both are convicted of the same crime, the one that pleaded guilty is in all likelihood going to get a lesser sentence.
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Also, this is Ohio State being pro-active.
Plus, tOSU was oringinal not cited for lack of instutional control.
Does anyone think we lose Posey? Adams?
"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03
I think the NFL lockout helps us keep those guys. Secondly, their names haven't been in the news as much. I think the other 4 stay.
Although, Boom might not have a job when he gets back....
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Boom will be no doubt be the #1 when he comes back. He vision in excellent (but seriously...when did that happen?), he breaks tackles (same question), and he has the blocking ability and experience that will really help a young QB.
If Rod Smith plays like people say he practices I think Boom will at best spilt time.
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Plus, if one of the other backs comes out hot, does Fickell (in his attempt to win a job) show the same (sometimes unfuriating) loyalty to the seniors as Tressel?
I don't think this would be a case of senior loyalty like the QB situation. Boom Herron is a good RB, he may not be flashy or really fast but he is good and the best all around back we have. Even guys like Mel Kiper who are wrong 50% of the time but get paid to have opinions and make predictions think so. Kiper has Boom as the #2 RB in next year's draft.
Kiper has vampire hair. I don't trust him.
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This comment demands the ability to upvote.
First, let me say thanks TP for your stellar play as a Buckeye. I really don't believe you had any other choice but to move on. Good luck in whatever you do.
DMURDER, The only way this lessens any penalties is that anything Pryor did after Jan 1, 2011 is now moot, as he is moving on.
I must say I'm torn at the moment.
He definitely showed the signs of arrogance and an invincible attitude.
He definitely showed flashes of brilliance on the field.
Which TP will we remember? The player who won back to back BCS bowls? Or the one that got his coach fired and who knows what else we find?
I'm reserving judgement until I hear the whole story.
Yeah it's unfortunate, he was turning out to be REALLY REALLY good. He was just stupid and thought he automatically deserved all of the accolades. He will be remembered as the guy who got Tressel fired, even though he wasn't alone and Tress actually got himself fired.
I feel like there were times when he realized he wasn't the be-all end-all. But then there were times when he showed up in a 350z after claiming he sold his rings to help out his mother. Sounds like a classic story of the 'too famous too quick' problem.
I agree, Tressel got himself fired - but I have the feeling that the OSU faithful won't remember it that way.
Im in complete agreement. I appreciate everything he's done for us on the field and wish he had made better decisions off the field. I cant sit here a preach to the kid as God knows the shit I did in college was waaayyyyy worse than selling belongings but Im not on ESPN and on the cover of magazines. I wish the kid the best.
Side note, anyone got Wisconsin game tickets they are willing to part with? I got straight cash, homie
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'Which TP will we remember?'
It's kind of surreal thinking that you can pose a similar set of questions about Tressel and you get the same sort of yin/yang situation. I hope people will think about that if they're simultaneously glorifying one and vilifying the other. There's no point in harboring resentment.
Taquitos.
Thanks TP for all the great memories:
3 victories over uM
Rose Bowl - legend
Sugar Bowl
Iowa x2
Penn st - wiped them out in happy valley
Wisconsin - what a run
all the stiff arm smack downs! BAM!
And as far as some of the mistakes you've made...don't worry, NONE OF US ARE PERFECT.
well, I hope you continue to grown and mature as a man and the lessons you learned while in Columbus will help youl make better decisions in the future.
Best of luck in The League...and wherever else life takes you
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Second'd
How do you feel about this today ?
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As much as I began to become fed up with Pryor, I will always be endeared to him. I think he was treated generally unfairly throughout his entire career, and ultimately he was unfairly scapegoated by many of our fans upon Tressel's resignation. His legacy will surely be an interesting one to watch play out. He was always immature, but I think he matured more and more throughout his time at The Ohio State University. So thanks Terrelle, and good luck.
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I have always liked Pryor a lot. I did though that he should also fall on the sword. I felt that if there wasn't a shot at winning a title he needed to get the boeckman treatment to usher in the Miller era.
I think the loss of tressel and Pryor combined with the suspensions of other players are going to soften the blow a bit come August
Okay...ya. Saw this coming, didn't we? Finally, some not-so-totally catastrophic news!? I really...really...hope Fickell plays Miller. This, to me, is like the B. Quinn vs Derek Anderson controversy of a few years ago. We know what we'll get (...or not get) with Bauserman. Let's see what the kid can do!
The Braxton/Bauserman debate is easy. An underclassman who is as good as or better than a senior should get the nod. More upside. The problem comes in on who is doing the evaluating. I know Siciliano has taken a lot of heat because of his background, but I think he is a competent coach who will make the right decision, particularly with Fickell at the helm. Remember, the coaches will be working not only to have a good season for the players, but their own survival at OSU is at stake. Anything short of 10 wins probably guarantees they will be sent packing. They will have to play the best players or face the consequences.
You mean the "Joe Germaine vs. Stanley Jackson" controversy?
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
He "thinks so?!" What else is Terrelle going to do? Go to work for the Red Cross in Haiti?
What did Terrelle major in anyway? (enter joke here--->__________________)
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
Criminology if I'm not mistaken.
Please, be honest. This is for science.
That a joke? I truly think It was exploring, or something like that.
Exploring is what you are in before you pick a major, you can only explore for so long.
Pretty sure Magellan agrees with this statement.
Taquitos.
lol, this thread is officially dead.
Herbstreit was 100% right: "Addition by subtraction".
Yea, and he's still a douche for saying it on national television. Just because I agreed with a lot of what he said doesn't mean I want him trashing players on his show. I didn't see other "analysts" ripping players from their Alma mater.
Lol. But we agree he was right, no? Now the cards are on the table as of two hours ago, and herbstreit was correct. in fact you could say he was passively whistle-blowing the whole situation. Was ashame to see him leave UA. And I really don't see how you can be frustrated with him speaking the truth about Pryor and the University, even if it is on national television. herbstreit is the man.
Herbie!? That you? Shouldn't you be spray tanning or something?
Cleats8 has been called out as herbie and BHOOLZ.... somethings gotta give folks
He picked a fight with a kid on air basically. If he was right or not it doesn't excuse him for being a douche.
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How is he a "douche"? If you've heard the personal regards of Terrelle from the many I've spoken with, I think your opinion would be very different. Its easy to jump to misguided conclusions when your sources are really only the others on this thread and the links to the broadcasting websites/twitter accounts they provide. But I guess thats just my opinion. Just trying to add some perspective, thats all.
-Not herbie (but close)
Herbie's twitter is the end-all-be-all to all Herbie douche arguments. He's a douche.
/argumentover
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Do you have to read what I tpyed above again.
he literally picked a very public fight with a kid. he should be above it. douche and a half.
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frosted tips + fake tan + callin out fans = giant douche
I bet he even french rolls his jeans
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What in the hell is a French roll????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tight_rolled_pants
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I always thought that was called "pegging" your pants.
You are from Michigan. No offense.
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He's a douche because he's supposed to be a college football "analyst" but he's more of a TMZ reporter. I don't care about his opinions on players or coaches. This article sums Herbie up very nicely: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2011/01/herbie-the-impaler
Does TP's departure justify Herbie's position with regards to his opinions about TP's immaturity? Granted Herbie took the wrong tack in venting his frustrations, but I get the feeling he knew more than he let on.
I dont really care if Herbie was right about his maturity. The truth is, had this not happened at all, no one would even be talking about whether or not TP was mature--we'd all be talking about making a run at an MNC and the Heisman.
This does nothing to justify and/or vindicate Herbie in any way. In fact, I think it makes him look like even more of a d-bag (ifs thats possible) beacuse not only did he pick a fight with a kid, he picked a fight with a kid he knew was too immature not to fight back.
Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.
Agree 100%.
Taquitos.
Of course herbstreit knew more. I guess no one can prove it unless he speaks out, but just read between the lines. He knew how bad of a fit Pryor was for tOSU. Like mixing oil and water. "addition by subtraction"...
Are you Bruce Hooley?
No comment. :)
You're too civil to be.
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
+1
The end justifies the means
The end is power
Power corrupts
Absolute power corrupts absolutely
"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever. David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel
Regardless of how you feel about TP, there is one good thing that comes out of this: at least now Luke ("I'm your father!" -- I can't believe that *none* of you have hit this one yet!) Fickell & Co. can plan for the entire season on their QB situation -- rather than speculate on whether or not TP will be allowed to come back after the 5 game suspension -- and how rusty he would be after "doin' a stretch." Any uncertainty from Pryor staying is now gone.
The big question: did he do this on his own, or was he asked to leave?
"There's a fine line between perception and reality." -- Luke Fickell
Thats a good point. But do you really think there was any uncertainty? Fickell & Co probably knew for certain that TP was going to be out of Columbus now for weeks. In fact, I'm going to say Fickell asked Pryor to leave.
Cleats, I'm inclined to agree with you. I'm thinking that Fickell may have wanted him gone for this very reason.
The NCAA still has some power over TP, too: it's past deadline for the NFL supplemental draft. If they suspend him for the entire year, then he could petition the NFL for eligibility -- and possibly (probably, actually) get it; if the NCAA refrains from further sanctions against TP, however, then he may not be eligible, and he'd have to enter the NFL as an undrafted free agent -- which means he'd make less money.
Either way, it'll be interesting to see what happens, even though my interest is waning from the story line and the fact that he will not be playing for da Bucks this fall.
"There's a fine line between perception and reality." -- Luke Fickell
Terrelle brought unparalleled athleticism and playmaking ability to the Quarterback position during his stay at Ohio State. Even more than Troy Smith. He won two BCS bowls, beat Michigan three times, and instrumental in several big drives to win absolutely HUGE games. BUT. He had the off-field sense of a 5 year old. Even though this all happened in 2008, Terrelle should have known better. He was stepping under the largest microscope in the sports world, thanks to the erratically draconian NCAA and the national media. He's getting the biggest share of the blame for the Tat5, rightly or wrongly, because of the hype and ability he brought to the Scarlet and Grey. I will forever be thankful that he won at OSU, but will remain disappointed in the way his career ended. Not by playing his best during the postseason his senior year at OSU, but leaving the team after being a cog in the machine that brought the whole program down for a while. Good luck Terrelle. Thanks for the gridiron memories. Now be a good lad and shut the heck up!
Hoisting a tall cold Duff to this news. Some NFL team will take a chance on him and soon realize he cant play QB and is afraid of contact so wont be a TE or WE or DE. Perhaps he can sell cars, he knows a little about them, I think.
I truly hate to say this over the internet, but:
Screw you dude.
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Whatever man. Tress protected him on the field, trying to play to his "strengths" and he was still an average QB who held the ball too long, couldnt throw a receiver open and ran out of bounds short of first downs.
An average QB that went 31-4 and is tied for first all time at OSU with 57 Passing TDs. Yeah he was obviously inadequate, just like your IQ Forrest.
I prefer coaches who emphasize their players' weakeness.
Enjoy your Duff beer, brah.
Taquitos.
Afraid of contact? I saw TP level DBs until he was coached not to.
His stiff arm was pretty weak as well. Should have just dove for a couple extra yards instead of throwing folks out of the way....
Reading some ESPN comments on the Pryor articles... some people are still dismayed that OSU got away with playing these players in the Sugar Bowl and didn't get punished for the transgressions.
News alert folks... losing a heisman contending QB and one of the top coaches in America is punishment. Jesus.
Reading ESPN message boards will never leave you satisfied. Avoid the irritating temptation would be my recommendation. Reading espn articles are becoming circus-esq as well if you ask me, they love to make up feelings that our fanbase is feeling. According to their journalists, every buckeye is extremely relieved that pryor is gone... yes they used the word relieved, I don't think any buckeye is relieved right now, derp.
1st, this situation is so bad we should be avoiding the message boards (outside of her, of course), just for blood pressure safety. Especially the 4letter.
2nd, I think people are relieved he is gone, just wanting this whole thing to come to an end as quickly as possible and if there was any chance he could have played this year it might have been ugly inside the shoe.
3rd, I think there is some backlash within team so he really had no choice.
4th, he was just average QB, above average athlete.
-If anything, the satisfaction or relief will be short-lived.. until the Aug 12 hearings are conducted. Personally, everytime I update 11W I hope to not see the 'dark-grey box of death' that signals the revelations of a catastphroic event that we have to take up the tailpipe... have seen that context box far too often the past few months.
-I do agree that this was the only logical ending...teammates throwing him under the bus to Joe Schad basically sealed the deal.
Interesting take from ATO:
Does it suck for our talent level on the field for next season? Definitely. Worth it if we can avoid a lack of institutional control penalty? YUP.
Kinda hate to say it but +1
TP's leaving is not going to stem any penalties other than for acts he may have commited after Jan 1, 2011. Anything that occurred before that is open to NCAA scrutiny. The NCAA hot boxed TP for 4 hours last week. That would be enough for anyone with any measure of talent to leave early for the Pros. There is a certain point where one looks at the situation and concludes "I don't need this shit" whether they deserve it or not.
The people who write this stuff just want a fall back in case the worst case scenario does not happen for OSU - "Well, TP left early to save OSU's butt, otherwise the hatchet would have come down."
Pryor left because there is more the NCAA knows than Pryor wants to deal with. That cancer leaving OSU is the best thing that's happened so far for your school.
Except that Pryor's already been meeting with the NCAA like crazy recently.
Taquitos.
Exactly, which makes Nitz's post below even that much more conjecture. And, at this point, I gotta believe that JT shows up in August even though he does not have to . So how does influencing the coach to resign yet he continues to meet with the NCAA, and the pursuading the Q to leave after talking to the NCAA fit with Nitz's post. Again, a lot of supposing going on.
Conjecture? Certainly... but I'm watching the Outside the Lines guy on Sports Center right now with some guy who claims he was friends with TP saying TP got $500-$1000 per visit 3-4 times a week (totally 20 to 40k total) for signed stuff from some memorabilia dealer. They also mention that OTL interviewed a parent of a former OSU player who claims he saw the same memorabilia salesman give "stacks of money" to active and former players in 2006.
Cutting TP loose will only make people feel like he is getting off scott free with all that money and that SOMEONE has to be punished.
The flip side to that is that he could be seen as a single bad actor. Unlikely, but possible.
Taquitos.
It just doesn't get any better than this, does it?
F that site.
Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST
Just a thought... OSU "encouraging" JT to resign and "encouraging" TP to go pro is probably going to have the opposite effect that they hope with the NCAA.
As the above snippet alludes to, subtly nudging the offending parties to the door gives the impression that there is something bigger to hide and that the University is only interested in wiping these people off the books. This is especially the case for TP, who can refuse to comply with the NCAA now without having his non-compliance reflect poorly on Ohio State's cooperation. If tOSU put any pressure on Pryor to leave and this is the impression it creates, that will be negative for tOSU's case with the NCAA.
And I don't care. It's obvious that cheating is necessary in college football to be competitive. The worst thing about this whole thing is that we suck at cheating. How is it that the SEC can have so many dirtbag coaches and get nothing more than a raised eyebrow? Until the NCAA fixes this crappy system or the NFL creates a d-league, there will be cheating in college football and the best cheater will win on the field. F**k everything, I hope TP made $180,000 off of autographs.
Why do you say that? Do you think that OSU has been winning because of cheating? I don't. I think Tressel was a great coach, a spectacular recruiter, and that he ran a great program. And that's why he was a winner. That was all true apart from anything that is being alleged.
Which is not to deny that along the way, Maurice Clarett was an idiot, and TP and his buddies behaved recklessly. Their behavior had nothing to do with the Buckeyes winning or losing. When Tressel found out about it, he failed to do the compliance reporting that he should have.
The OSU program is guilty of some major NCAA violations in this situation. And sanctions will be felt. But I refuse to believe that Ohio State is representative of "the best cheater [winning] on the field."
The oddly descriptive notion that 'OSU sucks at cheating,' as you suggest, may be true. I don't want to think about an OSU that is good at cheating.
M Man, I appreciate your comments. And I wholly agree. Thanks for your insightful comments.
M, thank you for some wise words! You hit the nail on the head.
Personally, I think JT was doing the right thing by doing the wrong thing -- and doing the wrong thing by doing the right thing; he was caught in the NCAA's version of Catch-22: damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
I really think JT was trying to protect his kids, honestly, and I can't name a coach for either tOSU or TSUN for the last few decades who wouldn't have done the same thing: both Bo and Woody would have, no doubt; add Earle and Lloyd to that list, as well. Coop? He would have had some kind of smoke-and-mirror thing going on, for sure. RichRod? Well, I don't know, because he was not from the Woody Hayes coaching tree (I know, neither was Cooper).
And by "protecting the kids" I do not believe that in any way this constitutes "cheating." I don't believe there was cheating going on at tOSU in any way, shape or form. USC, on the other hand... They were up to some stuff far beyond what our guys were doing -- even though what our guys were doing was just as wrong, what our guys were doing wasn't cheating.
But TP *was* acting recklessly. He might be right about the cars (or he could be lying), but then again, we might be barking up the wrong tree about them, and he could have been up to something far worse (remember Art?). And now we may never know.
"There's a fine line between perception and reality." -- Luke Fickell
ESPN is saying TP may have earned 40k for signatures. Holy Shit. Must be nice. When I sign things money goes out of my pocket.
Here's a link to the story:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444
I just read the article with complete indifference. I guess I'm just numb to all this shit now.
I think I've been that way since Tressel made his admission to the cover up with that ridiculous speech back in March. I wonder who this friend of Pryor was, no doubt a player but one that says he was with Pryor everyday then just suddenly stopped sounds a little odd.
You guys just can't catch a break...
'Former Friend'. Ray Small?! Discuss.
Taquitos.
How about some names with these allegations? It's hilarious at this point.
What a f'ing disgrace. I've started to tune all of this shit out........
got a blank space where my mind should be.
This man has completely lost his mind.
Here's the eBay account for the photog alleged to have paid Pryor for autographs: http://myworld.ebay.com/infickellwetrust/?_trksid=p4340.l2559
Better buy that mini helmet before it gets scooped up as evidence.
Heh
One truly sad and ridiculous aspect of this this whole mess is that there are, and probably will continue to be, adult males who will pay ridiculous sums of money for Buckeye memorabilia that is sourced from CURRENT PLAYERS. How stupid do you have to be not to realize you are part of the problem if you are participating in a marketplace where this stuff changes hands for money. You may as well be making the $100 handshake yourself.
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"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
Chief is on it!
I have been seeing the [M] next to your name for a couple of days now. Now I get it!
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
Thanks Jeebus it doesn't stand for Michigan.
Taquitos.
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/exclusive-ncaa-discovers-checks-to-pryor-29745
And the lulz keep coming.
And I'm sorry for linking Brooks but it seems legit given that Pryor left.
By "lulz" do you mean repeated kicks to the nuts? SbB or not, I don't see this easily dismissed.
Yea, you have to laugh to keep from breaking something. If we don't get LOIC it'll be a frickin' miracle.
Yeah, An LOIC seems about as definite as Gene Smith eventually realizing the same fate as Tressel and Pryor. Not good.
So, any odds on whether OSU is officially the topic of every single one of those so-called upcoming major story breaks in CFB that we heard about back when Yahoo first reported our self-report?
I'm so numb to all this that I don't care anymore. I hope the NFL lockout ends so the talking heads at ESPN can talk about mini camps and rookies being potential draft busts etc.
There still will be Buckeye football in the fall... Until then, could someone put me in a medically induced coma please?
Where can I sign up for this medically induced coma thing?
You may contact Lacuna Inc., New York, NY. You will need to take all household items which are associated with Ohio State University to your appointment.
Nice one. I like that movie.
It is officially time to do what the rest of the country has thought we've been doing all along, bury our heads in the sand!
Well, fuck you very much, Pryor
I guess it was only a matter of time before an uncivil disgruntled fan commented. Sigh.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
I've been civil for the last three years of Pryor. Defended him a lot. And rather than write a long post about how he's an idiot or selfish or a terrible person, just decided to sum up what a lot of Buckeye Nation is feeling.
It didn't seem in good taste to me. Could have said it in many other, better ways.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
You're probably right. I apologize if I offended anyone, just not feeling very rational right now, you know?
I feel you man. I'm almost numb.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
You know, I consider my self a thoughtful, considerate person. But I agree with the first poster. This is not Tressel's fault anymore. Terrell is going to singlehandedly bring down the program.
Oh the irony if this comes out to be some sort of Fab5 situation.
BAALLLS
Yay. Something good happened today in the world of sports: Go Mavs.
Terrelle didn't single handedly bring the program down. All Jim Tressel had to do was report the info he had to compliance. They Tat5 would've gotten their wrists slapped with a couple of games on the bench, JT would've been praised for his honesty and the university would've been commended for their atmosphere of compliance. Sure TP and his buddies received improper benefits, but the NCAA wouldn't have pursued anything if Tressel was just honest from the word go.
As for all the talk of Jim Tressel trying to protect his kids, can we please put this to rest? If he was so concerned about their well being, do you think he would've allowed them to keep hanging out with drug dealers at a shady Tattoo parlor? There are articles written about how close JT is with his signal callers. That extends to off the field as well. He had to know where his star player was spending such a significant amount of free time.