A Memorial Day to Forget

By Alex on May 30, 2011 at 11:06a
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A much happier time"The Times They Are A-Changin"

The original plan for my article today was to run various interviews I had done over the past week with Buckeye recruits from around the nation. That plan was scratched quickly upon opening my eyes this morning to my phone ringing off the hook with some shocking information. On a day that is supposed to be about remembering those who proudly served this great nation throughout the years, the country woke up to the news that Jim Tressel had announced his resignation as football coach of The Ohio State University.

After 10 years at the helm, the Tressel era is finally over. Writing that sentence was extremely hard for me, as I have seen first hand what kind of coach and person the university had in JT leading this team. Coming to Columbus as the little known coach from FCS Youngstown State, nobody has possibly ever had a bigger impact on a school and a community than Tressel had during his tenure running the OSU football program. Because of this, it is important to take a step back from analyzing this situation in order to appreciate the man who is responsible for bringing Ohio State back to prominence over the last decade and who will forever be endeared by the Buckeye Nation despite recent transgressions.

During his time as head coach at Ohio State, Jim Tressel compiled a 106-22 overall record, good for a winning percentage of .828, which is better than Woody Hayes's .761 and only second best to Carroll Widdoes' .889 (only two seasons). He won the Buckeyes' first national championship in over three decades, seven Big Ten titles, and held a 9-1 record against rival Michigan, turning the tables on the series right after fans endured the 2-10-1 record John Cooper held against "that school up north". He brought the team to a bowl game in every season while in Columbus and held a 6-4 record in those games, including a 5-3 record in BCS games. It's scary to say this after how much Woody Hayes is put on a pedestal at OSU, but Jim Tressel may have just been the best football coach in school history.

While he was a great coach, Jim Tressel was an even better man. What outsiders and even many fans don't realize, is how much Tressel cared for his players, students, and the community that was Ohio State. He has attended countless events benefitting various causes, donated thousands upon thousands of dollars to education and cancer research, has spent weekends visiting schools, hospitals, and others in need, and has given his time back to appreciate all that the US Armed Forces have done for this country. How many coaches around the country can you say that about? Probably less than the number of fingers on your hands, making this coach more special than you can even imagine.

So how did we end up talking about Jim Tressel's resignation on Memorial Day 2011? We can thank one little mistake that I compare to pulling a loose thread on a t-shirt. In lying by omission about his players selling their memorabilia and executing the worst press conference in the history of press conferences to go public about his actions, Jim Tressel fed himself to the hounds. Reporters from around the country began flocking to Columbus, believing there was more to the story than what was out and started to pry and dig at all angles to uncover any more dirt on the players, coaches, and culture of athletes receiving improper benefits at OSU.

The thread was pulled a little bit at first when stories of possible car deals for athletes and their families came out. It was loosened a little more when rumors of pending stories about apartment complexes giving players discounts on rent floated to the surface. Finally, it started to completely unravel when rumblings of a Sports Illustrated article started to become more truemor than rumor, and information about the contents of that article made its way to the administration in the OSU Athletics Department. That thread was finally yanked out of the shirt this morning when whatever the latest news that Gene Smith's team got its hands on must have been so bad that either the school forced Jim Tressel to resign or the coach truly felt it was in the best interest of the school to step out of the way so they could move forward.

The Jim Tressel era is officially over and while more information is surely on it's way, the question now is what lies ahead for the Ohio State Buckeyes? For starters, this season can go one of two ways. The players are likely to try and rally around their fallen coach and dedicate the 2011 season to Jim Tressel, which could empower them to accomplish more than you could ever imagine. The other way the season could go is complete disaster, in which the focus and direction of the team could be completely lost under the inexperienced Luke Fickell and the Buckeyes have to build their program from square one again at season's end. I tend to think "option 1" will be the way the seniors like Mike Brewster lead this team, but I'm just not sure how a bunch of 18-22 year old kids are fully capable of not letting this effect them to some extent.

The second thing to look at here is the future of recruiting for the school. OSU was already having a tough time bringing in players this year, despite it possibly being the most talented Ohio football class in years, because of the on-going issues at the school. The one thing many recruits said was that as long as Jim Tressel was there, they would still highly consider Ohio State. Well, now Jim Tressel is gone and that is sure to effect the thinking and decisions of many of the Buckeye targets. What's even tougher is that while Luke Fickell is the head coach this year and is a man many players and recruits adore, it is uncertain if he will remain at the school at season's end. Recruits are likely not going to commit to a play for a school in which they don't know who they will be coached by, so don't be surprised to see a standstill in commitments until December or January when the head coaching picture is a bit more clear. This could be the most devastating ripple effect when you take into account the future of the program moving forward where they left off pre-Tatgate.

Finally, speaking of the head coach, it is certainly going to be interesting to see how that plays out. Many think this is Luke Fickell's job to win (or lose) with the opportunity to coach now throughout the entire 2011 season. While he is not a "sexy" hire to many, the guy played for the Buckeyes, has coached for the Buckeyes, is the best recruiter for the Buckeyes, and has the trust of many players on the Buckeyes. Theme here? This guy is all Buckeye and had the build you are looking for in an OSU head coach. I think if he can steer the ship right and lead the team to a successful season throughout this tumultous time, that Gene Smith shouldn't even hesitate to permanently make him the 23rd head coach in school history. If it becomes clear Fickell clearly isn't ready for the big stage yet (only 37 years old), the national search will be on and the names you will be hearing will include Urban Meyer, Jon Gruden, Bo Pelini, Bob Stoops, Tony Dungy, Gary Patterson, Darrell Hazell, Mark Dantonio, and every other former Buckeye player, coach, or big name professional in the industry. This will certainly be a storyline you will not be able to run from throughout the 2011 season.

In sum, this has already been some Memorial Day. It's extremely sad to see a coach and man like Jim Tressel go out like this, as he clearly deserved better. Ironically, just like Woody Hayes' departure as head honcho at OSU, Tressel made a mistake that created an inevitable end to his run as coach of the Buckeyes and most likely ended his career as a college football head coach. The future for both Jim Tressel and the Ohio State Buckeyes' football program is uncertain at this point, but the one thing I do know is that for the rest of my life I will certainly remember this Memorial Day for all the wrong reasons.

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ih8rolltyde's picture

Fuck you terelle pryor. fuck you espn. fuck you world. might as well start just buying quarter million dollar players.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

ih8rolltyde's picture

Oh yeah, fuck you ray small, you little piece of shit.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

Nick1's picture

Tough day. The brats won't be quite as tasty this lovely day. This season will be new to me since I've only known OSU football with Tressel at the helm. When I feel tears on edge I have a few memories in the back of my mind. For one the national championship, and the 2006 season. For the most part. I'm not a father but when I am I hope to God that my son/daughter would have a coach/teacher/mentor to the standards of Jim Tressel.

OH-IO

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

I can't imagine what is going to be in the SI article that will change my opnion that JT is truly a man of class and to be admired.  NAme 5 other coaches that you would want your son to play for.

 In the end, maybe this is the best that could happen to JT.  There are worse ways to go out than being a martyr. No matter which way the Buckeye future turns, it will be a step down. 

O-H!

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

GoBucks713's picture

Have the men of 11w thought about removing all TP related shirts, or maybe donating the remainder of the inventory to some 3rd world country, never to be seen again??? He is certainly too dipshit for Ohio men.

-The Aristocrats!

Denny's picture

lolwut

Taquitos.

poguemahone's picture

Dan Mullen, come on down!

Chris Lauderback's picture

Just something to throw out there...

I know some fans are labeling the Tat5 as responsible for Tressel's ouster, especially Pryor, but obviously there's much more to it than that. Those guys may be the root cause that started this mess but it's what the CEO repsonsible for OSU football did with that info that got us where we are today. 

I love Tressel and will miss him leading our program as much as any of you but damn, after his initial decision to handle it on his own, which I can understand, he then lied and/or hid info from the school and the NCAA numerous times. How can some fans not mention that when they blast away at Pryor and company? At least those are young men, not the guy paid big money to win games while attempting to steer the ship clear of NCAA icebergs. And let's not forget, Tressel brought all those players some fans are crushing to the school. 

Again, my intention is not to defend the players. Only to point out that if any SEC coach did what Tressel did, I have to believe most of the same folks blaming the players for Tressel's ouster would be of the opinion that SEC coach should be fired. 

slippy's picture

Right there with you Chris.  I can't believe all the people here are ready to crucify the Tat5 and give Tress a pass.  Sure they messed up and put JT in this mess, but that does not excuse Tressel's actions at all.

WC Buckeye's picture

We'll lose the Ohio recruits to schools that can (and will) still make sweetheart deals for them, unfortunately. The whole student-athlete picture definitely needs to be redrawn,  but until it is everyone already knows where the lines are. Those who appear "clean" just know where to maneuver within them better than the "dirty" programs - boy, did we just learn that one.

 

Getting caught violating NCAA rules is kind of like having a patent - the surest way to tell your competitors how to beat you it is to have your "magic" reduced to paper, because everything is spelled out once one is awarded and becomes public. To get around a patent, you have to either keep everything secret (a la never get caught) or file for a new one (get caught and have your transgressions spelled out EXACTLY). In the case of student-athletes, make everything public and set up and enforce the rules exactly the same for every school, including topics like over-recruiting and compensation, and then let one entity regulate it ALL. It is clear that letting individual athletic departments self-rule isn't working. There have to be checks and balances of power - judicial, executive, and representative.

 

Oh wait - that is supposed to be how the NCAA is set up to administer, except that they should also be responsible for doling out the dough, not the schools. Schools represented by the NCAA really need to start asking it why what they're doing today still leads to cheating, and demand better solutions. The pious assholes just want to write the rules and then demonstrate that they are "doing their jobs" when they tear programs down. I say if they want to write and administer rulings on the laws (in conjunction with the member institutions and all of the dough they already send to Indianapolis for the pleasure of the service), they ought to be forced to step up and earn it by guarding the very rich treasury that college sports produces.

 

At least then, the scandals have a much higher likelihood of being traceable to one cash "spigot" located to the west of Columbus than hundreds, and we all know that people are human and will try and over-feed from the trough.

The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.

Chris Lauderback's picture

Saw a tweet from Jardy that Tress addressed the team for roughly only 30 seconds to keep from breaking down.

Sgt. Elias's picture

Oooouch. I don't want to think about the pain this guy is shouldering right now. 

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

Is anyone else tired of the NCAA pissing in everyone's beer?   Doesn the munishment fit the cirime here? There's got to be a better way to govern the sport. 

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Don't play ineligible players. It's really very simple.

There might be legitimate points to be made about the inexplicability of the NCAA rulebook, but 1) playing guys who you have reason to believe should be ineligible and 2) lying to the NCAA about it are high on the list of things every coach knows not to do.

Tressel blew it when he put a possible national championship in 2010 ahead of all other considerations.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

cal3713's picture

It is kind of beautiful how both Tress and Woody's careers ended.  Here's to the hope that we'll eventually have a scoreboard animation that involves an angelic sweatervest popping out of the clouds to shoot down a breaking RB with a lightning bolt.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Don't let it take away from how tremendously sad I am over this, but how come our fans have to such effing idiots when crap happens? No, its not TP and Co.'s fault and no, the team shouldn't turn their backs on them.

Sgt. Elias's picture

We'll agree to disagree then. Was it entirely their fault? No. Were they the catalyst? Yes. They put their coach in a jam, he compunded it, and here we are. And who knows what other dirt this article will lay bare (hopefully nothing new, please football gods). Blame is shared equally IMHO.  

Moving Forward: What matters is the locker room chemistry after this, do they rally round eachother or harbor a burning resentment for "those whom rules need not apply".  If my past experience playing sports (granted it was only high-school lacrosse) this will  strain the locker room. We had a similar situation in that a few players got our coach booted by putting him in a situation where, like Tress, he tried to cover their asses and got caught. The guys that followed the rules lost their mentor, it will be very hard not to look at the entitled ones without some ill will. Hopefully Fickell will handle this, he's certainly made of the right stuff. 

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

Buckeye Chuck's picture

It sure sounds like memorabilia-for-favors was a common practice around here for a long time (as I suspect it is in Tuscaloosa, Norman, Austin, Gainesville, etc). The difference this time is that the players were dealing with a crook--but for that, none of this ever would have been public.

Obviously I'd prefer that players not sell what most of us would regard as priceless, especially since they weren't doing it to "help their families" or anything so noble--nobody needs a tattoo. But Tressel's behavior once he learned of the problem is the difference between the A. J. Green situation of last year, which is now totally in the past so far as Georgia is concerned, and the ongoing mess we now find ourselves in.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

3 Yards And A Cloud of Dust's picture

Coach Tressel made a mistake, and he's paying the price.  I will miss his presence and his many contributions to the program and the community.

Since The Ohio State University has decided to draw a line in the sand...let's include a few others on the other side of the line. 

Coach Tressel is the head coach and has accepted ultimate responsibility for all the issues - whether he was aware of them or not - and for his mistakes in handling the Tat5.

But, he's not the only coach at OSU...you telling me nobody else was involved or knew about some of these issues?

And, if this has been going on for years and "everybody knew about it" - where the heck was AD Gene Smith's role in leadership for the program?  Or, is his definition of leadership stepping in at the end when it's too late?  I think it's time for a change in the AD office, too.

Doesn't the football program have a handful of people who's primary role is making the student athlete aware of NCAA rules and compliance?  Your job performance leaves a lot to be desired.

If The Ohio State University is going to make a fresh start with the football program, let' do it with a fresh perspective from a variety of places in the organization.

I still love my Buckeyes, and wish Coach and Mrs. Tressel the best of luck with their futures. 

Coach Fickell has been chosen to lead the Scarlet and Gray - let's get behind him and the team and be there to support them this fall. 

Going on to win and make the best of the 2011 season is one way to show the critics, the naysayers - and the small people who piled on at the end -  what Ohio State is really all about.

O-H!

BTwrestle04's picture

Man, I wish I owned a Sweater Vest to rock today in Tressel's honor.

Buckeye_Mafia's picture

Wearing mine proudly tomorrow to work.  In a buliding full of SEC swine and PAC-whatever patsies.  I've ben getting messages all day from them talking ish.  Will always be a Tressel fan and a Buckeye fan.  What he did was wrong.  He is being punished for it.  Doesn't take away from all the student-athletes he cared for and helped become either rich or good people, or both.  Nor does it take away from all the behind the scenes stuff he did that media and fans of other programs don't want to talk about.  Colin Cowherd made me wanna puke this morning with all the disparaging things he was saying about him.  Then compared him to Pearl and Carrol and said Tress was more of a sleezeball.  #douchebag 

Adolphus Washington is half grizzly bear and half dragon | Noah Spence kills quarterbacks, just to watch them die.

nickma71's picture

The probably talked to Ray Small. I don't care what it says, I know it isn't accurate. We are talking about the media afterall. It is isn't a "medium" either, where they get and trasfer information. It is propganda designed to get you to think a certain way.

I have no intrest in Urban Meyer, and would be suprised if he took the job. He is probably making a mil now, to sit around and watch football and talk about it without the stress. Well, I guess I do have an intrest, I just don't think he will come.

Chris Lauderback's picture

Sports Illustrated has confirmed their report on OSU will definitely be posted online sometime today.

BuckeyeChief's picture

I'm soooo glad ESPN was able to throw up that state if Ohio sports spot. Fuck everybody.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Chris Lauderback's picture

Saw a tweet from Rothstein saying this year's OSU/Mich game will be the first with 2 first year HC's on the sidelines since 1929. 

Matt's picture

According to PDBuckeyes' tweet, Jim Tressel resignation letter to Ohio State ends w/,

"We know that God has a plan for us and we will be fine. We will be Buckeyes forever."

Those last five words should serve as the rallying cry for the 2011-2012 season.

RBuck's picture

From Ray Small's twitter via USA Today:

""Lol what y'all gone do 2 me that man resigned his self if u don't like me (expletive) u!!"

 

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Sgt. Elias's picture

Small Ray, please STFU, you're a nobody. 

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

bstadnik's picture

Today is truly a sad day for BuckeyeNation. Having grown up in Ohio during the 70's it was my dream to play football for OSU and Woody Hayes. After graduating from college and moving away from Ohio I followed OSU football, but not like I did as a kid.

Then OSU hired a little known coach from YSU and he got my attention right away with his now famous half time speech at the hoops game. I found myself following the season more closely and then following the offseason and recruiting process more closely as well.

By that time I had moved to the NYC area and finally realized how important OSU football was to me. The longer I have been away from Ohio the bigger fan I had become. It made me think of all the Saturday's as kid that I watched OSU football with my dad. I was proud to be from Ohio and having OSU kick scUM ass every year didn't hurt either.

Coach Tressel restored the pride that is OSU football and for that I'll be forever greatful. I am flying my OSU flag in front of my house today in honor of Jim Tressel. A great man made a mistake and is paying the price for it today.

Pay close attention to the responses that his former/current players have posted via various media outlets today. The players know what kind of man he was and I have yet to read a critical post yet.

I for one would love to personally thank Jim Tressel for restoring Buckeye Pride.

Brian

Go Bucks!

RBuck's picture

I've been following this story online since it broke. Fuck it. I'm going out to the barn, drink heavily and put in a Stevie Ray Vaughan CD'

God bless all you veterans out there.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

poop's picture

I hope this doesn't reach Gordon Gee. If he gets canned, it's going to be rough applying for jobs outside of Ohio while listing a degree from Ohio State on my resume. This is why it's important to  maintain a clean football program. Like it or not, it's the face of our University. Also, athletes shouldn't be allowed to have a public Twitter account.

Sgt. Elias's picture

Fixed:

"Also, athletes Small Ray and TP shouldn't be allowed to have a public Twitter account."

 

 

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

Agree with the comment on lockerroom chemistry.  The Buckeye faithful should expect a team this year intent on putting a true beatdown on whoever lines up on the other side of the ball.   The Tat5 have a debt to repay. 

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

I want to comment I just cant. Too sad.  Too angry.  Too shocked.

Just got off a boat, powered up my phone and see this. There are too many emotions to process, so I'll just cry for awhile and see you guys on here later.

Coach, you will be missed.  We are better for having you--no matter what anyone says.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

Alex's picture

Now that JT is gone...take it FWIW but someone I trust told me part of this has to do with some players stealing memorabilia etc from WHAC and selling it....now I'm sure that's not the only thing in this SI article that caused the ouster but if true I expect some high impact players to possibly never play another down for osu again

JakeBuckeye's picture

That sounds like it coincides with what Brutus was saying on here.

AJ's picture

if this involves TP does he sit too? Or is that still not enough?

"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

Alex's picture

Getting warmer aj.......

Brutus's picture

I have it on pretty good word that TP's playing days at OSU are over. I don't know about the rest of the Tat-5, but he will likely either be suspended or declared ineligible or both based on new allegations of wrong doing. Frankly, I'm ok with that. I don't blame Pryor or any of the others for Tressel's mistakes. He made his own decision to lie. But I would find it very hard to cheer for any of those guys again after this. I wish them well moving forward, but I'd rather not see any of them in a uniform again.

AJ's picture

i like the way you worded that and i completely agree...

"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

Matt's picture

It's a pretty striking coincidence that the fates of the two greatest coaches in Ohio State history were sealed, in part, but not nearly entirely, by the actions of the two most highly recruited quarterbacks to ever play for the Buckeyes.

Mark's picture

I totally agree with you Chris.  As soon as I heard the news my fist comment was, "Well, he lied...and he kept on lying". 

I will look back upon the JT years as a great era of OSU football.  I always loved JT and the greatness he brought to the program.  I had a very high level of respect towards him.  And that is why I'm so disappointed in the way things turned out.

spqr2008's picture

If Tressel still has those high priced lawyers, maybe he saw that south park episode last week and decided to sue the NCAA.  Because you can sue them on sooooo many grounds.  Impersonating a government body, breaking FERPA, and also defamation of character.  I hope that everyone in Indy knows they will never ever be welcome in Columbus.

cal3713's picture

The NCAA only did their job.  The regulation is necessary and there is absolutely no way to argue that Tressel didn't deserve to be cited for a major violation.

spqr2008's picture

I'm not arguing that he breached his contract with the school and the NCAA, just saying that if you have those lawyers, you should put something into court so that the NCAA can't conduct its investigation against you.  If you are involved in an ongoing suit against an entity it can't very well bring you before its farcical "judicial" process.

TKOSU24's picture

well, we know all of the so-called "journalists" at esPEEn are joyful...those foaming-at-the-mouth for more negative news about tOSU types....Pat Forde, Mark May, Bob Ley, and co.

F them all. I boycott ESPN now....I cancelled my subscription to the their magazine after that last garbage. It's not that they were reporting the news, its that they dedicated entire programs to it, with such veracity that was missing in other scandals (i.e. Auburn, Tennessee, Okie State, USC). ESPN has agendas, clearly.

I would have loved to have seen Coach Tress not resign, if for no other reason, just to piss off the media hacks.

I STILL think it was not warranted....covering up for players who sold their stuff --- it pales in comparison to playing a QB in a NCG who's father knowingly pimped him out for cash to be rented for a year. (This happened in the SEC, Mark May).

The NCAA is the most hypocritical, phony organization imaginable.

As for dealing with reality ---- the new coach should not be Urban Meyer. He didnt look so great without Tim Tebow last year and he had a few top-ranked recruiting classes. U of F was not exactly squeaky-clean, either. Plus he resigned twice in the span of 13 months due to "health issues". Plus he works for the toilet bowl media org. called ESPN.

I say Gary Patterson of TCU -- you win with defense, esp. in the Big 10. Just look at the guy's track record --- always always a top 5 defense, and a great offense...and this is with second-tier recruits. Clean program. Great coach. Always double-digits wins. 14-0  last year after beating a darn good Wisconsin team in the Rose Bowl. It's a no-brainer to me.

Chris Lauderback's picture

Hearing the SI article will be posted around 9pm, fwiw. 

cal3713's picture

ESPN reports that "Urban Meyer will not pursue any coaching opportunities this season and will remain an ESPN analysist."  Thanks for that news ESPN, given that there aren't any coaching spots open it's really important to know that.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Because we are not hiring anyone this season.

This will make me vomit. Again.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

Poe McKnoe's picture

He should have taken a swing at somebody on the way out...

All very sad.  I've been critical as anyone of some of his decisions over the years, but this is a sad day for OSU football, OSU, and Ohio.

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

Well, its not his style.  But he's not off campus yet. 

Then again, I've got a sweatervest.  Send me a Tressel mask and tickets to the first gameday venue and I'll represent!  Look out Herbie!

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

Bellanca's picture

This story is not written yet.  My guess is that Dohrmann/SI asked someone at tOSU to comment on some new information over the weekend.

We Play Tackle Football. 

 

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

Sooooooo.

I'm trying to imagine my response when I'm sitting in the stands on the first game day in Columbus after the Tat5 are back in uniform.   Given that a man I admire lost his job subsequent to their delinquent (though not illegal) behavior, it will be difficult to cheer as enthusiastically as I did for their replacements the week before. If  I'm lucky, we may find that they are not so badly missed.

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

O-H-I-Owe-U's picture

I'm just shocked and sickened when I think of the press conference..."He's our guy and we stand behind him."

Personally, I wanted to see Coach stand up and take his punishment at the August NCAA meeting. I wanted him to face his penalty and work past it. Even if they said he couldn't coach at all this coming season, I wanted him to come back and go out on his terms. 

I've loved being a fan of Jim Tressel for the past 10 years and I will continue to be a fan. Godspeed, Coach!

 

 

Colby3333's picture

May God bless JimTressel.  I have to say, if ever I need anyone on my side, I would choose Jesus Christ and Jim Tressel.  Two men that have made tremendous sacrifice for human-kind in our day.  We may worship you in different mindsets, but your duty and service for others can never be forgotten.  The media likes to kick both of you without any regard, but we will never forget your contributions.  Thank you for your service and your commitment to us.  We will never forget you.

Bellanca's picture

Wow.  You just compared Tressel to Christ -- favorably.  You really did.

We Play Tackle Football. 

 

Sgt. Elias's picture

Wow, I thought I was a homer.

Ima leave this one alone...

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

btalbert25's picture

In an era where programs are under so much pressure to win, and every move gets put under a microscope, this man led Ohio State to a decade of dominance and national relevance.  It's very hard to sustain success in the current climate, and no coach has been more successful than Jim Tressel.  That's why, in my opinion, he's the greatest coach Ohio State has ever seen.  It's impossible to say for sure, but I don't know that Woody could've coached today's game and everything that comes with it. 

I was proud to say Jim Tressel was my favorite team's coach.  I liked the pride he had in the school, the success on the field, and the countless stories that prove he's a good man.  It's a sad day for me and truth be told college football.  The game needs people like Jim Tressel in it, and it's sad he's been lost. 

All that being said, the blame rests squarely on Jim Tressel.  He had the information, he could've done the right thing or he could made a run at a national title.  Regrettably, he made a horrible decision.  You can't give speeches and write books about accountability and doing the right thing, then turn around and do the exact opposite.  I hate that he's gone, but unfortunately he had to take the fall on this one. 

Stories and articles about players who have been in trouble over the years will not change my mind about Jim Tressel.  He's in a sleazy business.  There aren't too many people who can honestly say they haven't gotten their hands dirty once in a while.  I'll judge the man, not by the lies he told that led to his demise, but the actions he took while in his position.  He could've taken the cowards way out and took off early on.  He stayed and faced the music.  He almost survived it.  He took the bullets for the program.  Hopefully, it won't be too bad.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Good point about college football needing people like Jim Tressel.  I think that is precisely why the world outside of Ohio has been so vitreolic. There is no longer a standard in college football.  There is no longer a measuring stick to be compared against.  The slimey oooze of the underbelly has finally risen and bubbled the last beacon of God, honor and integrity from the radioactive vat of college football.  The game itself needs Jim Tressel and it too will suffer in his absence.  This day is but a michrchoism of the state of the world in general.  Evil at every turn systematically obliterating the Good.

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btalbert25's picture

I don't believe that Tressel was the only good man in college football.  That's certainly not what I'm saying at all.  I think Richt at Georgia is a great person as well.  If a scandal directly involving him came out tomorrow I'd still think he's a guy you would want in college football.  College football is a Billion dollar business.  The schools, coaches, TV networks, Bowls, and sponsors are making a fortune.  It's super competitive and you have to get the great players to sustain success.  Since the players are the only ones not making money, you know you're going to have to take care of the kids to get them to come to your school.  Everyone has to get their hands dirty to get some of these players on board.  It's just the way it is.  Turn over enough rocks and you'll find snakes in every program.

 

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

No, I think he was the last man willing to be so openly good. 

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btalbert25's picture

I also have to ask, does anyone else think it's pecuiliar that they are just delaying the search for a new coach until the end of the season?  Seems like to me, maybe they have their candidate lined up, he may have just wanted a year off with his family.  I don't really care for Urban Meyer at all, but seems like a new coach could be had right now if the offers went out.  Seriously, Ohio State and Texas are the 2 premier athletic departments in America.  If there is a job open at either school, there won't be a problem landing a great coach. 

Buckeye in Athens's picture

The only thing I can think is that they're seriously considering Fickell and will use the year as his job interview. 

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I feel bad for Fickell. Had Tressel gone on scandal-free and retired at 65, Fickell could have stepped right in without a hiccup. Now he's taking over in a season that's lost before it's started, fan pressure will force Smith/new AD to find someone new for 2012, and he'll never get another chance.

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btalbert25's picture

I dont' really see how the season is lost though.  Maybe the Tat5, well 4 since Pryor is done come back game 6 and this team does well.  I have a good feeling we won't see a bowl game for a few years, but the defense alone on this team will be good enough to win 9-12 games.  As long as none of the other players on the team aside from the 5 are implicated, there is enough talent to win almost every game on the schedule.  There just aren't that many teams in the B1G that can line up man for man with the Bucks. 

Poe McKnoe's picture

Or they don't want Gene Smith to hire anybody.............................

btalbert25's picture

Also, ESPN had no agenda here folks.  ESPN, is reporting a major story about one of the premier programs in the sport.  Ohio State has as much or more power than any other athletic department in America.  When scandal hits a program of this status it's BIG news.  The NCAA doesn't turn on the TV every day and say, " Wow, what Mark May is saying makes sense, I think we'll really come down hard on Ohio State." 

A lesser man/coach would've been fired back in March.  Any other coach, gets fired as soon as this info comes out.  Could you imagine how quick Cooper would've gotten canned for finding out his players were inelligible, with holding the information, then lying about said information.  People would've had his ass for that one. 

Whether we think the rule is fair or not is irrelevant.  It's on the books, it was violated, the information came to Tressel, he didn't give it to compliance, then lied to the NCAA about it later.  That's a huge deal folks.  ESPN, had nothing to do with his demise, he took care of that on his own. 

JakeBuckeye's picture

I think the entire media has an agenda against us right now. That's the media though, of course they want to break something huge. We're bleeding out and they're benefiting.

Sgt. Elias's picture

Just heard Barry Switzer carrying the tOSU banner hard on espin radio and Beano Cook making  Watergate parallels whilst slobbering over Urban. The CFB* world has gone sideways over this, I guess I underestimated the country's fascination with the program (yes, I  follow football closely). I'm now in stage threeve of of my grief, manic-fatalism. Let the articles and NCAA sanctions run their course, we're all on the outside looking in for now. Once it's time to play football  the healing starts with a vengeance. Lets kick-start this thing right Coach Fickell, Go Bucks! 

 

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

How does Brian Kelly keep his job at ND when a kid DIES under his watch & responsibility, yet Tress is gone mostly because he covered for low character athletes who made stupid choices in selling their OWN property. "Head Scratch". Moral of the story - if people die it's OK as along as you dont hide it from the NCAA.
 

AJ's picture

i think we are way beyond the whole selling their own porperty...

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