Tuesday Skull Session

By Johnny Ginter on January 25, 2011 at 6:00a

Happy Tuesday everyone, and welcome to your morning Skull Session. Let's talk about butts.

Specifically, Jared Sullinger's butt. I feel that his butt has gotten a lot of publicity lately; during seemingly every Ohio State game, the announcers at some point will have a lengthy discussion on Sully's butt, its size, and how important its utilization is in creating scoring opportunities for everyone's favorite big man. Now, on that point I will not debate. It is quite true that Jared Sullinger's butt is an important member of the team, and that without it Sully might not be quite as successful.

Still, without taking away from the butt's obvious talent, it strikes me as odd that this butt is so highly and frequently lauded. I (sadly) have never been complimented on my butt to quite the extent Jared has, and it makes me wonder how he feels about this constant praise. Does he get similar compliments from the ladies? If not, does it concern Jared that grown men are offering up effusive praise of his butt on national television while other, perhaps more intimate, people in his life do not echo the same sentiments? What about his teammates? Do they ever get angry that the butt of one player on the team gets more mention then they do in total? Is Jared aware of how important his butt is to his success? Can you insure a butt? If so, does this necessitate the butt being kept in a protective containment pod when not in use?

These are all extremely important questions that I'm sure we would all like to know the answers to. Jared, if you're reading this and would like to answer the above questions about your butt, please e-mail me at johnny@elevenwarriors.com.

PS, I am not a crackpot.

Hail To The King, Baby Butts aside, things are looking pretty good for the Buckeyes in the some very early March Madness bracket prognostications. Unsurprisingly, OSU comes in as a 1 seed in all of em, which at this point is still probably more owed to an undefeated record more than anything else. At this point it'd be nice to project an undefeated season, but the remaining Big Ten schedule is absolutely brutal, including home and aways against both Purdue (the home portion of which is tonight) and Wisconsin. Also keep in mind that OSU's total margin of victory in 7 Big Ten games is 60 points.

Which actually sounds decent. Then you realize that 40 of those points were accumulated in just two of those games, and the average margin of victory in the other 5 games has been just 4 points. I still expect OSU to end up as a #1 seed at the end of the season (because their talent is definitely deserving of one), but the road to get there is going to get a lot tougher. The Big Ten eats its own, folks.

Climbin' In Your High Schools, Snatchin' Your Five Stars Up The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has an interesting breakdown of how Ohio State has been able to infiltrate the state of Pennsylvania (specifically the WPIAL) in recent years to get some high profile high school recruits. Terrelle Pryor is obviously the most recognizable of these, but also included is Dorian Bell, Andrew Sweat, Rory Nicol, and Corey Brown. It's hard to believe that Penn State would lose out on a lot of these kids if they had a head coach that actually was involved in coaching or recruiting, but Metamucil ain't free, dammit.

Hit X To Reload I've been struggling in vain recently to come up with something that adequately expresses why I'm not concerned with the secondary next year, but luckily Ken Gordon over at the Dispatch is here to help me out. We've been over what a MASH unit the secondary was all season several times, but I do think it's time someone recognized that a perceived weakness of the team proved that they were anything but over the course of the season (and, most significantly, in the Sugar Bowl), and will be coming back in 2011 loaded with young talent. Also interesting is this comment from Heacock regarding personnel:

Heacock didn't sound as if he wanted to switch Bryant back to corner, but he did say, "You don't want to stockpile three good players at one position if there is someone better than a starter at another spot."

Not a terrible problem to have.

We're The Best. Better Than You. FINALLY, someone has created a website which can put to bed all of these "my team is better than yours" arguments. Using the highly scientific Transitive Property Of Football, there is now solid, 100% concrete proof that the 2010 Ohio State football team is better than the 2010 Auburn team. But don't stop there, the mighty Occidental College Tigers are also better than the so called "National Champions," as this clearly illustrates. As of this writing BCS executives are looking for ways to include this website into the computer rankings.

You're Not A Man Unless The Sport You Play Drastically Lowers Your Life Expectancy Jay Cutler has taken an insane amount of flak for supposedly "quitting" on his team due to an injury that highly qualified football fans sitting on their couches called illegitimate. I could go on a long, long rant about the utter stupidity of the importance of machismo in football (especially to the detriment of the health of players), but since this is a Skull Session I'll let someone else do it, in this case Spencer Hall over at SBNation:

...I don't even like Jay Cutler as a player, but he and the Bears made the decision for him not to play, and them being football players and people surrounding football is enough to assume that they knew what was up and made the sound, sane decision. To say this deflates the thing the NFL and its attendant media thrives on, the moron-opera sold through terms of personality and currencies with names like "Favre," "factorback," and "grittiness." It is greasepaint morality play underwritten by Bud Light and Ford, and it is the stupidest thing in the world not named Merrill Hoge.

I agree with literally every single thing that Hall writes here, but I will add that I don't think he goes far enough in talking about how culpable players are in this. It is sick enough that fans and the media will attack a legitimately injured player and perpetuate the idea that a core value of football isn't just playing through pain, but massive injury as well. But when players are involved in the shaming of each other, that's when it becomes truly sad. Hopefully one day football will move beyond this, but I'm not optimistic.


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Denny's picture

I am complimented often on my posterior, and it makes me happy about life. So I'd guess the same is true for Sully.


Nik's picture

The hard hitting questions like those in the opening paragraph are why you are quickly becoming my favorite 11w writer Johnny

Johnny Ginter's picture

thanks man, like most 11W writers i'm just trying to parlay this gig into a spot on 60 Minutes

The_Lurker's picture

Jordan Sibert, Lenzelle Smith and JD Weatherspoon combined will never get us much pub as Sully's butt.

The_Lurker's picture

Speaking of Weatherspoon, if anyone doubted the reports about him being academically ineligible, they should take note that he is no longer listed on the OSU roster.


jclarkbuckeye's picture

We can't forget about Take it to the House by Trick Daddy

RBuck's picture

 "Does he get similar compliments from the ladies? "

Of course he does. As the old saying goes, "You can't drive a big nail with a tack hammer".

Long live the southend.

Buckeye_Mafia's picture

I love that Kansas lost this week. Just funny since everyone picked them ahead of tOSU. We have already played some really tough teams and are still unbeaten. I know Purdue is gonna be tough, but I think Wisconsin is a tougher matchup than Purdue will be. Purdue is a great team, don't get me wrong, but I still think Wiskey is a tougher overall team.

"At critical moments throughout the season, we learned about the character of this football team.  This was a team of true character, of true resilience." -- President Barack Obama

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I'm not sure who will be tougher but Wisky is a real good, tough team.

Hoody Wayes's picture

Today, marks 2,000 days, since Michigan beat Ohio State in a football game:


The_Lurker's picture

Dispatch has it at 2,621 days as of today.

Corey Carpenter's picture

Unfortunately, I think Dr. Saturday got some bad information, because it is over 2600 days since UM last won.

blazers34's picture

pretty pathetic, IMO that was posted by Hinton.  i like him, but c'mon man.  Even more pathetic that it is still up and has not been edited/updated.

Rooster Buckburn's picture

Purdue @ Purdue will be the toughest game we play till March

The_Lurker's picture

Over at Hammer and Rails someone posted that from what they've seen Sullinger tires notably by the end of the game. So, who's that guy that's been carrying the team at the end of games?

RoweTrain's picture

There was a point late in the game when we were inbounding from the opposite end of the floor from our bench and Sully was doubled over at the bench and looked like he was sucking wind.  I'm pretty sure this was a ploy to make Illinois think he was not in the game or something because when we went to inbound the ball all five of Illnois' players were in the backcourt covering the inbounder and three of our guys.  Lighty didn't notice Sully down at our basket, uncovered and inbounded the ball to Craft who was immediately fouled.  The announcers said something about Sully not being noticed too and when they showed him after the foul he was smiling and did not at all look like he was tired.  I may be reading too much into this but it seemed like a pretty smart move on his part.  

"Just bow up and go out and play." ~ D. Lee

"As it stands right now, I know I am the best athlete in college football." ~ B. Miller

btalbert25's picture

I was running errands so I had to listen to most of the game on and Westwood 1 coverage Pete Gillen was mentioning even in the first half that he though Sullinger appeared to be wearing down a little.  He dug deep and hit a 2nd wind or something, but I don't think it's all that far off to observe that he was getting tired at the end of the last game.  He did, after all, play 40 minutes.

The_Lurker's picture

I don't think it's out of the question, and sure guys get winded in spurts, especially when there are a few end-to-end plays in a row. But to me it just seemed Sully's legs were there throughout. He's hitting big shots at the end, getting to the line and even hitting his free throws. When it comes to hoops, there are two late game "tells" in how fatigued a guy is: the jump shot goes away (physical manifestation, which can also affect free throws) or silly fouls/turnovers (mental manifestation).

Unfortunately, the lack of depth with the bigs is going to mean little rest for Sully. Dallas has to avoid foul trouble to get him a few minutes here and there.

btalbert25's picture

Yeah, he has been huge down the stretch in games, look no farther than Saturday and the Penn State game.  My response to the guys' observation about Sully being tired at the end of the game is DUH!!  Being tired from playing a full game and being worn out/detrimental to the team are 2 totally different situations.  Something the Purdue fan definitely didn't observe was that Sully was still dominant at the end of the game.

btalbert25's picture

Off subject, but are Grant, Story, and Walker all waiting til signing day to announce where they are going?  I know Walker probably will be last minute, but would love to find out if we nailed the other 2 down before hand.   Also, was surprised to see how low Story is rated at his position.  I thought he was a top WR the way everyone got excited about him. 

Johnny Ginter's picture

grant is definitely going to take it down to signing day, most experts think he's a solid OSU lean but who really knows.

btalbert25's picture

I keep reading that too, but definitely don't feel comfortable until there is a committment.  We've been down this road before.  I think they'll lock him up, as he could probably play some significant time right off the bat or at least compete right off that bat.

Johnny Ginter's picture

i think in terms of athletic ability he's ready to play, but mentally he might not be there yet. dorian bell was the same way, dude could bench press a house but it takes players a while to figure out the scheme sometimes.

Alex's picture

He WILL be a top WR.....played WR his soph and junior years and had to move to QB as a senior...he is definitely a raw talent but the combination of his size and athleticism may be unmatched by any player in the nation.......if he works hard he is an excellent NFL receiver one day

btalbert25's picture

Cool, that makes sense why there's not much love for him in the position rankings I guess.  This is why I hate recruiting rankings.  I saw Rivals has Ohio State as the number 11 or 12 overall recruiting class, and even without landing anyone else, I already feel this is one hell of a class.  I just have to wonder if they'll really move up very much with adding Grant, Story, and Walker.  This is why I find those sites/rankings really irrelevant.

btalbert25's picture

Honestly, I don't really care if they do, it just goes to show how far off those recruiting sites will be.  C'mon Clemson?  They land a good class or not, they still won't be competing for a title in the next 4 years.  Buckeyes could all of the next 4 years.

buckeye33's picture

BTW, if you look at the roster Sullinger is listed as a 6'9" foward as is Lauderdale (6'8").  We really do not have anyone as a center. Next years top recruit Amir Williams is a 6'9" center. I think our toughest games (aside from road games) will be when we have to match up against a truly big team. We may not see this until we are into the NCAA tourney.

KenK's picture

Did Thad offer a scholarship to Sullinger's butt?

Johnny Hooker: "He's not as tough as he thinks". Henry Gondorff: "Neither are we".

Buckeye_Mafia's picture

If Sully tires at the end of games, Hummel looks to me like he breaks easy. Its just a stupid comment trying to attack the best player for either team.

"At critical moments throughout the season, we learned about the character of this football team.  This was a team of true character, of true resilience." -- President Barack Obama