Don't Stop Believing

By 11W Staff on November 20, 2010 at 6:41p

We said it would be a war and it was. Abdominal pains aside, that was a quality win on the road against a good team.  It wasn't always beautiful to watch, but the result doesn't get much more satisfying.

Enjoy your Saturday night -- we'll worry about the little things that didn't go well later.

Oh, and DeVier... You owe Boom a steak dinner.

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Irricoir's picture

I am so out of energy right now that I couldn't even cheer on the boom first down run. I did so on the Iowa 4 and out but I haven't been that stressed since the 2002 NC game. Congratulations Buckeyes and fans!!

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

buckeyedude's picture

All I have to say is WHEW!!!!!

We're going to miss "sure hands Dane" next year(even though he dropped one today).

Agree Posey owes Boom a steak dinner from Ruth's Chris.



Johnny Ginter's picture

jim tressel an company have now won at least 10 games in 6 straight seasons. insane.

flipbuckeye's picture

As frustrating as Pryor was to watch at times, Posey owes him as much as he does Boom.  The 4th and 10 conversion made it all happen.

Jason Priestas's picture

Yep. Technically, Posey could also be on the hook for a dinner to Sanzenbacher as well.

I love how TP responded after Posey dropped his best throw of the afternoon.

Denny's picture

[Insert BSD "OSU players on the take" comment here.]


Bobcat04's picture

For anyone who still cares to watch more Bucks tonight, basketball game on at 8.

Buckeye Black's picture

I don't what all the negative Nancies say. Pryor won the fourth quarter for us (and Posey almost lost it). He is the most frustrating/ rewarding QB.

Johnny Ginter's picture

agree with this. he stepped up when he had to, despite the guys around him imploding

blazers34's picture

you're god damn right he did.  all of the pryor haters will be clamoring for him once he is gone.

Roger's picture



Just to clarify on the play where Jermale Hines mugged Robinson: Normally on a slip screen the back is behind the LOS. In that case it would NOT be pass interference. Since the back was past the LOS there was indeed a penalty, ineligible receiver down field (5 yards, repeat down). 

If the refs had been paying attention, a procedural penalty would have been called on Iowa and the PI called on OSU. In this case the penalties would have offset. Since neither was called the result was the same.

JakeBuckeye's picture

I just want to repost this since I am completely ashamed of my halftime antics towards TP and Tressel...


TP I am back to completely <3ing you. You got absolutely no help from ANY of your recievers excluding Sanz who even had a drop. Also, can't say enough about how well this defense played when it really counted, particulary the defensive live.

11W, just put my account on inactive at every halftime from here on out. I turned into one of them...

This should have been an absolutely legendary performance by Pryor, but 6 or 7 (8?) drops very unfortunatley take that away from him. Oh well, we won, I'm pleased, Go Bucks, OH-, etc. etc.

tomcollins's picture

I think most of the Pryor hate is from having way too high expectations of him.  He's definitely in the top 10 college QBs.  He's got an incredible talent and is a freak of nature.  He also has downsides.  Pretty much every college QB does (barring maybe 1 or 2 each year).  We are lucky to have Pryor.  I just wish he was calling the plays instead of Tressel. 

AJ's picture

you wish a college student was calling the shots over Jimmy T?...the same guy that has brought six 10-win seasons and the only coach to have 100 wins at 2 different schools?

"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

Colin's picture

In a small way it would make sense, because then maybe Pryor would get to utilize his athleticism a little more.

AJ's picture

ok i see where youre coming from

"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

AJ's picture

so then what you are saying is that talent makes up for playcalling

"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

tomcollins's picture

No, I'm saying he has the balls to make the right decision, unlike Coach T.

Tressel does an excellent job of bringing in top talent and improving it.  We win 10 games per season in spite of his playcalling.

Denny's picture

Really, it's not a good idea to freebase DERP.


tomcollins's picture

Say what you want, but not going for it on 4th and G from the 1 is a gigantic mistake.  We lucked out that Pryor could run for 10 yards, but otherwise those 4 points would have cost us the game, much like it cost us the USC game last year when Tressel similarly pussed out.

You have one of the best defenses in the country and Iowa trapped at the 1 yard line if you fail (which only happens maybe 10% of the time with a 6'6 250 lbs QB on a sneak play).  Iowa gets held to 3 and out a huge percentage of the time and has to punt from a super short distance, giving us the ball maybe at the 40 at worst case if we can hold them.  We score at least 3 points almost every time from there.

Pryor may not know the math behind it, but he at least arrives at the right conclusion - he is gonna score a TD almost every time there.  And if not, no big deal.  You give up absolutely nothing since Iowa gets the ball at the 1, which is as good as a field goal.

A 12 year old playing Madden realizes that punting/kicking FGs in a lot of "traditional" spots is idiotic and quickly moves past that phase.  Why the highest paid coaches in the world can't figure it out (or hire someone who can actually run the numbers) boggles my mind.

Unfortunately for dinosaurs like Tressel, plenty of newer coaches ARE figuring out that you should go for it.  Les Miles, Chip Kelly, even Rich Rodriguez have it figured out.  Tressel wins because he has superior talent, and that is good enough to win the college game most Saturdays.  And when he doesn't have vastly superior talent, he is often against worse in-game coaches like Zook or Ferentz.  But those days are a-changing.

I don't look at results and judge whether or not I should be happy.  I look for things that could have been done smarter and how much expectation we give up because of it.  It worked out today, but it could have VERY easily been a loss like USC due to Tressel's lack of a sack.

poguemahone's picture

A 12 year old playing Madden realizes that punting/kicking FGs in a lot of "traditional" spots is idiotic and quickly moves past that phase. 

I guess JT should really be asking more Madden-playing 12 year olds about football strategy. I can't wait until he turns the difficulty down to "rookie" and lets Pryor run backward 50 yards before heaving a 100-yard TD pass to a wide open Dane Sanzenacher

Irricoir's picture

Nice job dissecting some ones comments and trying to make them look like an idiot by focusing on that segment, totally taking the comment and removing it from the context intended. I don't necessarily agree with Tom Collins but I see his point. Obviously if we score Tom is right and if the three points we failed to get would have cost us the game, everyone would have clamored for JT's head like they have in the past. At that deficit in the game I say go for three. Some points keep our morale moving. No points drops it and 1st and one at the goal line may not get the enthusiasm we want form our defense. On the flip side, TP wanting to go for it last week and our kicker missing made me wish we had tried for the TD. As always, JT is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. I wish we as a fan base would see what he has done for us collectively and take the bad with all the good, which certainly outweighs the prior. Nobody is perfect, even though we so desperately want our team and coaching to be. 

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

poguemahone's picture


I'm making him look like an idiot by... quoting him directly?

Denny's picture

You seem to be very preoccupied with Mr. Tressel's genitals.


AJ's picture

ok i understand that...i like Jim...i dont think TP fits his system and i think thats the root of the problem

"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

tomcollins's picture

That's another issue, but I wonder how much of that is TP wanting to make it in the NFL, or Tressel trying to mold him into something he's not.  TP is truly a beastly athlete.  He's got another season left to polish himself as an NFL-style QB.  Maybe he can do it.  He's got the natural gifts.  He just needs to become more consistent.

Irricoir's picture

Read this off of SB Nation 10 reasons why Iowa wont beat Ohio State. While they were overly critical of their team prior to the game I bet they would have exuded confidence had they won. I was once again disappointed in our performance first half (Offensively) but the Defense was playing fairly well and was bailed out by a missed field goal. Great game Iowa. Reason number 4 I think it was, why they wouldn't beat Ohio State:

4. Great Dane. Iowa has proven they are sketchy at stopping anyone's passing game in crunch time, and along comes Dane Sanzenbacher - whose last name is Danish for "another touchdown catch."

Love the humor even though it is at iowa's expense or maybe I love it for that reason, even more so.

I am a firm believer in trends and and the mental advantage it gives you on the field. After seeing Wisconsin break that age old record of losses at Michigan I was worried about us at Iowa. All ended well. Let the domination contiunue!

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Matt M.'s picture

Posey also owes me a heart stint.

Boyceblan's picture

Many on other blogs are biching about that non-PI called on Hines, but no PF on Iowa taking Corey Brown's head off earlier. 

Its just being a Buckeye fan means wwe have to deal a whole ass-load of whining, jealous bandwagoners of the current number one team in the nation or simple haters.  In either case, as long as we continue to do what we do, it will not change.

nickma71's picture

Not only did they miss Philly Browns face rake, the first two interfernce calls were absolutely horrible. OSU faced more than just a fierce Iowa team, the faced a classic "homer job". I am in shock over it.

nickma71's picture

For anybody that has never played a competive sport, this win was even harder than you think. This was something I don't see very often in the Big 10. In fact, I dont' recall seeing it before. I see it in the SEC every game. TERRIBLE OFFICIALS. This was so bad, it looked like a classic, "homer job" that goes on all over OHSAA contests. I felt no sympathy for the late pass interference because the first two calls were absolute total horseshit, that put OSU in a hole in their head. This game should not have been close. It should have been a low scoring beating.

Now, my hat is off to Iowa who played their assess off. That was one of the fiercest efforts I have seen against the offense. The play calling was fine. They mixed it up and didn't show big tendencies. But this shows what it must be like going against OSU on defense. No matter what was done much of the night, they handled it. If there were good blocks, they got off the blocks and made the play for a much shorter gain than what OSU was getting against PSU. That was a good gut check on Pryor following Posey's M.O. for big games. If only Pryor could make consistent short throws.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Good points. On numerous offensive plays, the execution would be sharp, the blocking would be good, Boom would make a nice cut, and yet an Iowa defender would get off a block and keep it to a 3-4 yard gain instead of the 12 yard gain it would have been against PSU et al. Iowa's defense was fierce, until they ran out of gas.

The officials were obscene.   

buckeyedude's picture

Anybody know what's up with TP's shoulder? He kept holding his throwing arm in the 2nd half. Needs to be at least 60% to beat TTUN, IMO.

Time to celebrate with some Ohio Players(Roller Coaster, Skin Tight, FIRE!)!!!!!!!



Irricoir's picture

At least our running game should be successful against TTUN. It looked like a mild seperation the way he was hit.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

CliffordTheBRD's picture

Only two things to say:

  1. A win is a win, plus away from home, come from behind, against a ranked opponent. So it wasn't pretty - who cares?
  2. Beat Michigan!! 
Is it Saturday Yet's picture

No Buckeye Seahawks open thread? Lolz


wheres the basketball thread i know where a football school but come on 11 warriors

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Dallas missed two dunks....

Buckeye in Athens's picture

Whew. Good job Pryor. You were the victim of drops and bad luck.

Philly has all the skills to be a great one, but he and DeVier must have put grease on their hands before the game.

I understand why Pryor loved the offensive game plan- so many plays depended upon his decision in the play action. I suppose it plays into Pryor's athleticism by letting him run the ball, but I would love to see more I formation Boom runs too.

I was most impressed today with the fire this team had. Talk about being clutch in that post earlier this week- Pryor sure was. He played like a man possessed. And I loved zach boren getting in cams face before the final 4-out. That spirit is what is clutch.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Also, so much for being excited about Philly Brown. Three drops on three balls thrown to him. Two of those drops on plays that would have been HUGE...

buckeyejonross's picture

two brutal drops by Philly however, you gotta like that he is getting open in big moments. the catches will (hopefully) come. this has really been the first time where he dropped a pass.

"You might as well appeal against a thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war. War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over." -William T., Battle of Atlanta, B1G.

Boyceblan's picture

Truly Ohio State's biggest problem this season has been the defensive line's poor play and lack of big plays. Today late they did come up with a couple, but they got owned against Wisconsin. Further, Cameron Heyward was supposed to be a 'special' player this season and has yet to be one. Our linebackers and safeties have consistently had to to bring down opposing backs that are nearly in full stride through gaping holes provided by our D-line.

Pryor is clearly still not entirely comfortable as a pocket passer, as we all cringe when he holds the ball until the defensive secondary catches up to our receivers before letting loose either a floater or a rocket behind a crossing pattern. I don't understand why it seems like Pryor only gets desperate when its a win or die situation, and decides to make great runs in big games.

But hey, it isn't like we are Texas or Florida. We are still going to win another B11 title and go to a BCS game so. . .

billjones's picture

That was the ugliest win I've seen in my 35 years of watching TOSU.  But, don't we still have a puncher's chance of winning a meaningful bowl game as a result?  Isn't that what we get from JT?  Isn't that worth it?  I share everyone's frustration resulting from an offense that muddles against good defenses.  But, for Fook's sake, you want to fire JT for the flavor of the month?  Do you really think we were lucky to win tonight?  You people who criticize aren't fit to lick the floor at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell!  You make me sick!  I almost hope that we have a couple lean years so that Tressel has enough & TOSU hires a Kragethorpe or Hawkins, you Dicks, because that is precisely what you deserve!

Irricoir's picture

Cimma down....Not everyone's a hater. You sound like your having a temper tantrum man. I would never wish for lean years for our team. Do you love to hate or love our team more?

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Buckeye_Mafia's picture

Beat Michigan. Wearing my 'BEAT MICHIGAN" shirt all week under my suit and tie. And everytime I see a skunk weasel fan, they will see it....FUCK MICHIGAN.

"At critical moments throughout the season, we learned about the character of this football team.  This was a team of true character, of true resilience." -- President Barack Obama