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JoePa Says Bring on the Awards (But No Irish)

With just under 70 days until Navy steps into the Shoe, cretins like us everywhere are starting to turn our focus away from summer lounging and towards the start of the '09 season. There are Steele data points to digest and preseason composite rankings to scrutinize, after all.

Part of the countdown to kickoff are predictions out of people barely qualified to do so (though not us, of course). Corey got the ball rolling with his Indiana preview last week, and this week we check in with our ballot for the annual Lake The Posts Big Ten Blogger Preseason Awards. Many thanks to LTP for putting this together and now on to the ballot.

Mark Dantonio is not amused by your awardsNot amused

Coach of the Year: Mark Dantonio

There's a genuine feeling of optimism in East Lansing these days. Not the "John L might get the boys back to the Alamo" variety, but a very real sense that better things are on the way. And maybe, just maybe, now is a good time to close the gap on the snooty bunch down the road. We're buying it.

Dantonio followed up a solid debut at Michigan State by winning nine games last season -- good enough for a third place finish in the Big Ten. His Spartans had a chance to tie for the league title heading into the final week of the season, but were dropped by Penn State in what is quickly becoming one of the conference's better rivalries.

Though topping nine wins will be tough, we won't exactly be shocked if Dantonio pulls it off, either.

Tressel was our runner-up selection and let me say one more time that it's a TRAVESTY the man has yet to win the award despite owning the conference for the better part of this decade.

Best Heisman Candidate: Terrelle Pryor

This one was pretty much unanimous when we discussed it. We try to put the homer shades down and realize that there are other great players in the league -- Benn, Williams, Royster, Clark, Decker and others -- but Pryor has everything working for him heading into this season.

Despite being just a sophomore, he's the league's most well-known commodity, playing for the league's highest profile (and likely highest-ranked) team and if recent history is any guide, the Stiff-Arm Trophy likes quarterbacks.

If Pryor wants the award, he'll have to be ready by week two. But could you ask for a better campaign kickoff event?

Sleeper Team to Crack the Upper Tier: Minnesota

"Upper tier" can be kind of a broad term. Does it mean the top half or the top handful? For our purposes, we're going to assume it means the top four teams.

Ohio State and Penn State will definitely be there. Michigan State should be there and then you can pull from Illinois, Iowa, Michigan or even Northwestern to be that fourth team.

But when you're talking sleeper, we think you have to look at the Gophers, batshit crazy (see below) coach and all. They have a new field this year and ticket sales are booming. Ohioans remember the affect the Jake had on the Tribe and there's a good chance the new park helps an improving team get an extra win or two this year.

Most Likely to John L Smith (Lose It): Tim Brewster

As much as we like the Gophers as a possible surprise team this year, Brewster has to be considered a liability. And a possibility for an epic postgame meltdown.

When he isn't participating in revisionist history or calling out beat writers, @Play4brew is supplying Twitter with a steady stream of testosterone (and exclamation points). Look for said meltdown during the brutal four week stretch that goes: @ Ohio State, @ Penn State, Michigan State and Illinois.

Internally, our votes were scattered on this category, with Zook coming in second and Bielema and Rodriguez also garnering some support. Strangely, no Joe Pa.

Shonn Greene Award (Player to Come from Nowhere): John Clay

(We're loosely defining "nowhere" as "has not had a season as a regular under his belt" because to truly pick another Shonn Greene, we'd have to scour the roster of a middle-of-the-pack team for a 2nd or 3rd string guy (remember when Paki O'Meara was going to be the man in Iowa City) and then watch the guy lock up Big Ten MVP honors. It can happen, but predicting that guy is damn near impossible.)

We were actually split on this one with votes going evenly to Wisconsin's Clay and DeVier Posey. Both guys were Army All-Americans and both will probably develop into outstanding players. Clay looks like Chris Wells in another uni and really does cause us to have nightmares. Plus, selecting him can't hurt to make us look like we aren't the total homers we know we are.

Most Likely to be the Highest NFL Draft Pick

Down the road, it might be Pryor or someone else, but looking ahead to the 2010 NFL Draft, Benn gets our vote as most likely to go first from the Big Ten (assuming he leaves early -- and he will). As a soph, Benn put up monster numbers (67 for 1,055) and though he didn't get into the endzone as often as you'd like if your name is Ron Zook, another year of working with Juice should help push his numbers up across the board. At 6-2/215, he has the frame scouts drool over and the speed to go along with it.

Navorro Bowman was our runner-up for this award with his mate Sean Lee finishing third.

Must See Game of the Year: Ohio State @ Penn State

Another no-brainer. The conference's two best teams should meet November 7th for the de facto championship game. Pryor gets a chance to avenge the fumble and Nittany Lion fans finally get to see a quality opponent on the schedule.

Upset Special: Penn State @ Michigan

While Penn State at Michigan state on November 21st looms as a potential upset, how big of an upset would that be, really? The real upset special in the conference is on October 24th, when Penn State visits Ann Arbor. The Nittany Lions finally solved the Wolverines last season, but then again, everybody solved the Wolverines last season. Though SS RichRod is still very much a mess-in-progress, chances are they'll be better this season and when a team owns another team...

The Big Finish

Corey will be counting down these teams in the coming weeks, but here's a quick look at how we see the conference winding up:

  1. Ohio State
  2. Penn State
  3. Michigan State
  4. Illinois
  5. Iowa
  6. Michigan
  7. Northwestern
  8. Wisconsin
  9. Minnesota
  10. Purdue
  11. Indiana

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TLB on 29 Jun 2009 - 11:08am #

Don't be surprised if Bielema has a John L. Smith meltdown sometime soon. He has been shelted for a couple years with talent recruited by Alverez, but after an unspectacular season last year and your prediction of 8th in the weak Big11Ten, the heat will be on in Madison.

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Ryan B. on 29 Jun 2009 - 11:21am #

"Pryor gets a chance to avenge the fumble and Nittany Lion fans finally get to see a quality opponent on the schedule."

Nice little jab.

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iball on 29 Jun 2009 - 12:57pm #

Alot of big time playmakers on that Illini offense, I think theyll turn a few heads and nab the second spot. I also think they will give the Bucks everything they want at the Shoe. Their defense will obviously be the question.

Who is the frontrunner for the Mich. St. starting qb job?

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OneBuckeye on 29 Jun 2009 - 12:59pm #

COY: Tressel, after OSU's undefeated season obviously
Heisman Cadidate: Pryor, there isn't anyone else in the big 10
Sleeper: The bottom of the big 10 is a crapshoot... Wisconsin!
JLS award: Dick Rod. After Tate Forcier gets injured and sheridan is sucking it up.
Shonn Green Award: Brandon Saine?!
Highest NFL draft pick: Navarro Bowman
Must see game: OSU PSU
Upset special: I agree.
Big finish: I agree.

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Devon on 29 Jun 2009 - 1:43pm #

It would 'hurt' a lot more if your boys had won a big game. And if Pryor didn't look like a little bitch on the sidelines.

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Devon on 29 Jun 2009 - 1:44pm #

"Heisman Cadidate: Pryor, there isn’t anyone else in the big 10"
Evan Royster ran for 1200 yards and has a YPC of 7. IF he gets more than 12 carries a game, he'll have far better stats. Also, Clark>Pryor.

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A Bag of Doritos on 29 Jun 2009 - 1:53pm #

go nittany lions! based on the last decade's worth of sine wave finishes...i'd say your 'boys' were due for an 8th place finish this year. good luck trolling the internet after that happens.

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Ryan B. on 29 Jun 2009 - 2:26pm #

We'll see who is better as far as Clark and Pryor. Right now I would say Clark is a more polished passer, but athleticism is in Pryor's favor. I see the nation is still Buckeye hating. ESPN has a poll if tOSU will win a BCS game, it is 70% no...

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Devon on 29 Jun 2009 - 2:45pm #

I'm sorry, you only get bragging rights after you win. If you beat us this year, congrats. But we get a year to gloat. Those are the rules. And we've had 9+ wins each of the last 4 years.

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Uncle_Buck on 29 Jun 2009 - 2:53pm #

A poll like that on ESPN... No they would never purposely go out of there way to have something negative about Ohio State. Just like how every so called sports site has run an article about how the big ten sucks. Go to any site you would like and you will find one. Even if the buckeyes were to win The National Championship. And blow a Super Power out. It wouldn't matter. We would still get the Ohio State didn't deserve to be there. and our luck we would get a fluke year In the BCS Championship with a Kansas State type team. and win but yet It wouldn't mean anything to any one else in the country. Then they would say we played a weak opponent and the SEC teams would bitch cause they all had 2 losses because they are so * cough cough* badass. I hope we win 3 in a row. Just shock the world and shut every one up. Im tired of this Inflated SEC bullshit. Why can't any one just come out and say there is more parity in College Football then there was 10 years ago. No we have to bash Ohio State because every one needs a fall man.

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Devon on 29 Jun 2009 - 2:57pm #

Throw Penn State in there. Even if we had run the table, there would've been people saying we didn't deserve to make the MNC game. It's ridiculous the double standard that the MSM uses to promulgate an agenda.

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pam on 29 Jun 2009 - 2:57pm #

http://cfn.scout.com/2/874890....

Here a few guys who disagree with knee-jerk Big Ten/tOSU sucks. Enjoy

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Josh_Alum on 29 Jun 2009 - 4:14pm #

not that difficult to beat those highschoolers, eh?

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Bucksfan on 29 Jun 2009 - 4:21pm #

I think some of our fans recently deserve a crack at the John L. Smith award.

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Sam on 29 Jun 2009 - 4:54pm #

UncleBuck's entry is definitely a John Lewellyn Smith Award contender

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Anonymous Internet Person on 29 Jun 2009 - 5:10pm #

These comments suck

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Wil on 29 Jun 2009 - 5:28pm #

I know you said you were loosely defining this:
Shonn Greene Award (Player to Come from Nowhere): John Clay

But I still have to disagree. I think, from what we have already seen, you would be more accurate calling him a bust if he doesn't perform. I think this kid is going to be special.......to bad he's on the wrong team.

I probably go with Kafka from Northwestern (although you could make the arguement that he is expected to be good also)

How about we give the defense some love and throw Moeller or Rolle's name in there and giving the defense some love guys?

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iball on 29 Jun 2009 - 5:28pm #

Anybody on the "B10 sucks" bandwagon is under the age of 30. Period. Conference success is cyclical. The power will eventually shift, carreer minded coaches like Saban, Miles, and Meyer move on, potential recruits decide to play elsewhere because of that, so on and so forth. Just wait and see.

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Bucksfan on 29 Jun 2009 - 7:07pm #

I'm going to take my homer-shades off and nominate a different game for the Upset Special Award:

Illinois at Ohio State to open Big Ten play on September 26th. The experts love the talent the Zooker is bringing to UIUC, and the guy seems to have the game circled on his calendar ever since the 40-2 thrashing in 2005. Last year, Illinois outgained Ohio State 455-354, but check out how that broke down: Illinois had 214 rushing, 241 passing. Ohio State had 305 rushing, 49 passing! Talk about balance vs. imbalance. Juice is back, he has won in the 'Shoe, we're breaking in quite a few new starters on defense. I can see Ohio State's mentality being an issue a few weeks after what will either be either a heartbreaking loss or an overemotional victory against Southern Cal.

Opening the Big Ten slate against Illinois is a trap.

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Buckeye Jer on 29 Jun 2009 - 7:54pm #

the best way to combat the media is to not listen or read anything. that way, they are only talking to themselves and they get no satisfaction of angering osu fans. seriously, my blood pressure has significantly improved since i stopped watching espn or reading yahoo! articles. that's just me disrespecting/ignoring the media though. if people want to rant on blogs or send hate mail to espn, i hope they realize that those assholes aren't going to bother. they are set in their beliefs.

as for the buckeyes, they need an important win of some kind this year. whether it is usc or a bcs bowl game (if they get there). send a statement or start conceding to the 0-9 against sec teams and 0-6 to usc......because they (osu) will have then proved that they can't contend anytime, anywhere.

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iball on 29 Jun 2009 - 8:42pm #

ESPN is in the business of selling what's hot and right now the SEC is hot, the b10 is not. I don't believe they have a personal agenda against OSU and the b10, its just mainstream right now to say the SEC is the best. Plus, SEC football has a HUGE following which equals big ratings. The b10 also has a huge following, so when trashing the b10 leads to crazed fans e-mailing and ranting/raving about it, that also equals big ratings. Once coaches like Meyer, Saban and Miles leave, the power will shift and the b10 will be king again. Then one day the power will shift again and the b12 will be the king. Thats how it always has been. Plus, keep in mind ESPN has only been around the last 25 years and just recently has stepped uip its cfb coverage, also they cater to a younger crowd so concentrating on the current trend is what they do.

I feel fortunate to have a coach like Tress, who will retire as the OSU HC if he can help it. That will prove to be a HUGE advantage in the long run.

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TLB on 29 Jun 2009 - 9:55pm #

No way. We will not lose to them at home, again. If we have to out score them, we will.

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TLB on 29 Jun 2009 - 9:57pm #

Now, now, Pam,
Don't let facts get in the way of a good story. You know, like the whole global warming thing.

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Poe McKnoe on 30 Jun 2009 - 12:28am #

God, Penn State fans fucking suck. Go beat Texas A&M in a bowl game and tell me it means something. Oh, wait. That already happened.

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Poe McKnoe on 30 Jun 2009 - 12:29am #

So, I'm a might bit confused at how Royster did against the GOOD teams. Care to enlighten me?

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Poe McKnoe on 30 Jun 2009 - 12:31am #

Having Juice Williams as a QB and Ron Zook as a coach is a trap. At any point they could compete with anyone, while at the same time lose to Western Michigan.

They should let Williams coach and Zook try to complete 67% of his passes.

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Poe McKnoe on 30 Jun 2009 - 12:31am #

Is there a "no penn state fan" button around here?

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pam on 30 Jun 2009 - 9:58am #

The ref's from the '07 game are no longer employed by the Big Ten, so I say the Buckeyes will win. And yes, I am a bitter sore loser.

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iball on 30 Jun 2009 - 12:43pm #

apparently a new rule has passed requiring Illinois players to reach the 5 yard line for a touchdown

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E-money on 30 Jun 2009 - 1:57pm #

Penn State - Douchebag U!

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A Bag of Doritos on 30 Jun 2009 - 3:30pm #

that's nice...you still finished in 5th place two of those years bc the team was mediocre. you can't really brag about beating temple however many years in a row. and the few years before your current 4 year awesome streak...how did those work out?

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Wil on 30 Jun 2009 - 7:01pm #

hmmmmmm, I know Pryor was only a true frosh last year, so that's probably why Clark had a better QB rating last year.........wait......what's that? Pryor actually had a better QB Rating?

But how is that possible? Pryor Has a better completion percentage you say.....
Weird......well, whatever, I'm sure Devon is right once you add Clark's athleticism......
wait.....what's that? Pryor is a better athlete also?

na, somebody must have manipulated these stats from ESPN:

Pryor
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/...

Clark
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/...

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bup bup bup on 30 Jun 2009 - 7:13pm #

as long as pryor doesn't throw three freaking INTs, i think we'll be fine. honestly illinois should be worried about having to start the big 10 season against us, that is going to be a ruuuudddeee wake up call for them

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bup bup bup on 30 Jun 2009 - 7:17pm #

and yes i know they play mizzou, but they won't be nearly the same team they were, and they aren't that physical anyhow

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Chad on 1 Jul 2009 - 1:19pm #

My predictions:

1. Ohio State: Rose Bowl

2. Iowa: Cap One Bowl

3. Penn State: Outback Bowl

4. Nerdwestern: Alamo Bowl

5. Michigan State: Champs Sports Bowl

6. Illinois: Insight Bowl

7. Minnesota: Motor City Bowl

8. Wisconsin: Might get a bowl, Bielema gets canned!

9. SCum: 5-7

10. Purdue: Hope is on the sidelines and in the future,but this year will be a step back.

11. Indiana: Lynch is gone!

Iowa might get a At large bid to BCS, but can't fall more then one game in Big Ten. IF that happens, of course the bowls go down one place.

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Phil on 1 Jul 2009 - 3:22pm #

I know its the trendy pick to show some love to Mr. Dantonio, but this is the same team that lost it's last 2 games by a combined score of 73-30, and were outscored 173-118 in their last 6 games, while going 3-3.

I like Dantonio, but his team was 1 score in each the Iowa and Wisky games from being 7-6 WITH Hoyer and Ringer,,,without them and with 2 new starters on both the Dline and Oline, and I could see them lose as many as 5-6 games this year

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