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Piece of shit?

I take it you've never done something incredibly dumb before.

I said this in the other post too, but dude has some serious problems

Clarett delivered on the field. Boone's knucklehead antics are in addition to his shitty play.

Clarret lived up to the hype...

What a gigantic sack of fail.

Yes he is a piece of shit. We've all done stupid, ill-advised things, though I doubt any of them rise to the level of being raging drunk, tasered, running from the cops, and being taken to the hospital.

Does this nail us on the Fulmer Cup board?

I've heard he has been nothing but problems the entire time he has been at OSU but that most of it was kept under wraps..

Wow, there's some serious life issue going on here- the guy was supposedly in AA. He really has a problem.

I'm not sure people ripping him on here have any idea how much alcoholism is actually a disease. Now, there are certainly ways to fight it, but he needs treatment and needs the people close to him to take care of him.

See what he can do when he's not wearing those damn knee braces.

hahahahahahahah

Really poor way to start your Blogfrica commenting career, I must say. Poor form, at the very least, to call out someone in your very first post.

That being said, d'awww, little Billy finally learned how to use mommy and daddy's computer. Now go run and listen to your Jonas Brothers, little Billy.

Draft stock hurt? He would fit right in with the Bengals.

No man. There are many people with problems, only a select handful play left tackle at OSU. There is help beyond help out there for guys like this. He chose alcohol over working his tail off to be the best he could be.

Not a fan of throwing big talent down the drain. And I would never defend #13, and he did deliver.

Be careful MSP people will start throwing bible passages at you and tell you not to judge.

I do agree however and don't understand why someone who is about to get drafted can cost themselves hundreds of thousands by doing something like this. He will go from a possible late first day pick and 500k signing bonus to a late 2nd day pick and maybe 75k, stupid.

Not to pile on Pogue, but yeah, fuck it...Pogue, get off your high-horse. You are on here all day with your self-righteous bullshit. Who declared you King around here?

My whole thing is this, many times I catch younger people in a bind with alcohol, who then say they have a problem to try to ease their punishment. If you have a problem, public or private figures, don't use it as a crutch to got out of trouble. I deal with this shit all the time, both from a counseling and authoritive standpoint, and it burns me when people use it as a crutch.

I have done a ton of stupid shit as a young man, got in trouble and owned up to it, went to counseling and kept drinking. I never got in serious life or death situations, but I never claimed to be an alcoholic to use it as a crutch. And, btw it is a disease, maybe brought on by your own doing, and in no way as bad as cancer, etc.

Wow This all make scene now!
We all saw him block inside to help out when it wasn't needed, and turn outside to watch Mr. Matthews have a clean SHOT at our QB. (National Televised Game)
Now we have this problem!!!!
That why an Ex Buckeye/Ex NFL player told me that Alex's gets frustrated, and then he gets CONFUSED!!!

I think the NFL already knows!
And there is no Europe or Arena Ball!!
Maybe someone in the Music Dept. can get him the word's to "OH Canada"?

This post makes my head hurt.

I'm Sorry!!!! Try Tylenol Arthritis... So far it is working for me!

JimmyT,
First, condolences to your friend's family & friends; 44 is waaay too young. I disagree with you, alcoholism is a disease, a dependency disease. A co-worker has gambling dependency and her brother has alcohol dependency. Having said that, the disease can be addressed wit treatment. If Boone didn't feel he needed treatment, then yes, he made a bad choice.. and seems to continue to do so.

I think it's fairly obvious by now he has very serious alcohol problems that he hasn't seriously addressed yet. Coupled with a few self absorbed statements over the past few years and his antics on the field (i.e., head butt against NW), I'm really not sure what to make of his attitude, but it can't look good for a scout.

I sincerely hope he takes his alcohol issues seriously this time and gets his attitude straightened out. He has the talent to make it in the NFL. Very few get that opportunity and it would be a shame for him to throw it all away on making very bad life choices.

What a sad story.

Generally speaking, the offensive line in the game of football rarely, if ever, gets thrown under a bus. That's usually because the more visible players get the blame from the fans, i.e. the qb can't throw (Bellisari), the rb can't find the holes (Ross), the WR's aren't getting off the line, etc. etc. But Boone et al became household names in Buckeye nation this year due to their 2rd straight year of getting bitchsmacked by elite competition, then having the audacity to make excuses during press conferences.

It's Boone's fault, with the rest of the O-line, that Boekman lost his starting job. If Ohio State came to the table with Oklahoma's offensive line, then guess what? Ohio State becomes unbeatable with Boeckman and Wells in the backfield. Instead, we were stuck with guys who couldn't pass block worth a damn, and even Chris Spielman called them pillowfighters during the Ohio game. The reason Terrelle Pryor became the starter was because he could avoid a pass rush and get positive yards with his feet when the O-line invariably broke down. They actually got worse over their careers, not better.

Boone called out the fans after the Troy game, where Boeckman got booed. You know what I said to that? Go cry to your mom, Boone, who loves you no matter what. This is Ohio State...if you don't want to be booed, then man up and kill people. You're not going to get cheered for mediocrity. Boeckman, through no fault of his own per se, was the captain and the symbol of your generation of Buckeye players, and the big-game let-down legacy that you left. You got booed because the fans aren't stupid.

Sugarts, Adams, Cordle...I hope you guys took notes on how NOT to play football at Ohio State.

Yet people apologized for/conveniently forgot the misdeeds of:

Troy
Henton
Terrelle's actions in high school basketball games
Santonio when he beat women
David Boston

List goes on. If he lived up to the hype, you may criticize his actions, but you would not be calling them "pieces of shit"

Actually my brother is going through this right now, so I have a pretty good grasp of it. He is the same way, doesn't know when to stop. So when he gets drunk, it is completely shit-faced drunk and doesn't come home til the next morning. Sad part is he has a beatiful wife and 2 small kids at home, and we're trying to tell him he is going to lose it. Boone's family makes excuses for him (remember the DUI and Mrs. Boone's remarks?), our family is attacking it head on telling him he needs help and are being relentless in that pursuit.

I know Boone's situation isn't something to trivialize, but...

Orson implied on edsbs today that Boone's conviction will count in the Fulmer Cup.

How could it qualify for the Fulmer Cup when he's already declared for the draft and is no longer eligible to play at Ohio State?

Totally agree, MSP. I've never been a fan of his, but put up with him because he was a part of the Buckeye family. Now though, it's really hard to have any sympathy for him, or to even have anything good to say about him.

Also, Pogue, those guys you mentioned above have at least shown flashes of being good and decent human beings. Alex Boone has not. Have you ever heard anyone say that he's a nice guy, or that he's a good kid who just runs with the wrong crowd sometimes? No. In fact, more and more people are starting to say that they've seen or heard him being a complete douchebag out in public, and he hasn't once shown an ounce of remorse for it.

Look at how far Troy Smith and Santonio Holmes have come, since you want to mention them. Hell, look how far all those guys (except maybe David Boston) have come. Those guys have shown that they've learned from their mistakes and have kept themselves out of trouble. Santonio had a slip-up earlier this year, but seemed to genuinely feel bad, and he really aired his dirty laundry this past week, which took some serious balls in front of Super Bowl Media Day.

A fitting end to a less than stellar (embarassing career)... visions of Florida running around his fat ass are still in my head.... Get professional help moron before you kill someone and end up in a cell next of Maurice Clarrett and OJ!

But you are forgetting that Orson hates Ohio State.

Regarding Fulmer Cup points for Mr. Boone:

I certainly appreciate all the comments made about alcoholism and "the disease" surrounding it. However, nobody is forcing you to take a drink. When are people going to take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming it on a condition or disease. "Oh, I have a gambling disorder, Oh I have an eating disorder"....I'm going to seek professional help." What a bunch of pussies.

Give me a break...our country is so F'd up because nobody takes responsibility for anything anymore. Quit making excuses and start making good decisions. He made a stupid decision and now he has to live with it. Made plenty of them myself and still do. Just once I would like to see someone respond to a dumb mistake by saying...I went on a bender and while I was having fun I made a stupid decision to destroy property. It went too far and it won't happen again. I don't need professional help."

Alcohol withdrawal symptoms are so severe they can lead to death.

Heart attack, respiratory failure, seizures, and strokes are just a few of the things that can come from withdrawal.

If obesity is considered a disease, then alcoholism can too.

On the way to get profesional help be sure to stop off and get some counseling on how to be more green and environmentally friendly too. This climate change/global warming stuff combined with alcohol disease will undoubtedly be our ultimate downfall as a society.
Oh I forgot, no it won't...neither exist.

Obesity isn't a disease, the fat bastards are eating too damn much.

Kyle...Amen brutha!!!!

hey ooooh!

Oh most definately it is a condition or disorder. It is an effect by a cause. The major difference is that the condition was caused by circumstances not in their control, like bombs and shells being lobbed at them by an enemy. Alcohol disease is caused by a bartender serving too many drinks to a person who has the ability to go home and go to bed or watch American Idol.

Our service personnel don't. Right now I'm suffering from Barack Obama Disease. It's everywhere, I have no control over it and I can's escape it.

Way to go Jimmy T!! I totally agree with what you're saying about responsibility. Are we really going shift blame for the stupid decisions and take credit for the good decisions? That is completely immature!! are we responsible for our actions? You bet we are!!! I think that a lot of people need to look up the definition of a disease. If we redefine disease, than imagine how much stuff people could get away with -- not paying taxes, shooting people, etc... all under the excuse of a "disease." Boone was stupid and he should and will pay for it! Ohio State is in no way responsible or the bar or his friends or whoever!!!

So volition is your argument. Your argument would have merit if the draft was in effect, but of course it's an all-volunteer force these days, and as such the men and women who put their life on the line know full well the dangers they face, and in spite of that go forward and face the prospect of developing PTSD.

But of course they don't have to join up, they don't have to bear that burden and expose themselves to the factors that contribute to PTSD. They make a choice to do so. And only relatively few develop PTSD; best studies from Vietnam era show a 15-20% rate of PTSD.

No one would say it is a crime to have an alcoholic beverage (unless you are under age), but certain subsets of the population possess genetic makeups which leave them prone to developing chemical dependency. Just as certain subgroups of the American fighting force--hispanics, those lacking high school degrees, those entering war at a relatively young age--are more prone to developing PTSD.

I'm not defending Boone; he's a moron and deserves whatever he gets. But for you to make blanket statements about alcoholism and global warming, completely unprincipled statements and backed by no facts, just your ranting and raving, simply because you are upset in that our new president looks a little too tanned for your tastes--well, my friend, your day is long passed.

And don't go bullshittin' about being an Ohio State captain---back that sort of statement up with proof as well. Of course, the running motif with you seems to be, you don't back anything up.

A lot of people are arguing whether alcoholism or obesity are diseases. If you define alcoholism and obesity as addictions, where addictions are not simply bad habits but rather rewirings of the reward centers of the brain, then they certainly are diseases. And there's a lot of work to support that notion. A lot of your tax dollars have gone into research that has defined what addiction is, and there's a lot of evidence that shows you can be addicted to food and you can certainly be addicted to alcohol. Obese people have all sorts of secondary disorders as well, like hormone imbalances that actually lead to more eating, as well as insensitivity to insulin that leads to diabetes.

I think before anyone forms an opinion, they should at least recognize that they probably don't know everything about it. Whether obesity and alcoholism are diseases might still be controversial, but you'd have to provide sources where research has proven that it's not a disease, as opposed to research that proves that it is a disease. You'll likely not find much...general consensus is that they are diseases.