Preview: #11 Ohio State vs. Michigan
Michigan Man Rich Rodriguez and family
 #11 Ohio State 9-2, 6-1 Big Ten Roster | Schedule |
November 22, 2008 12:00 PM ET - ABC —— Ohio Stadium Columbus, OH |
 Michigan 3-8, 2-5 Big Ten Roster | Schedule |
It’s a weird and unfamiliar feeling heading into this 105th edition of The Game. My formative years were destroyed every November thanks to a nail-biting coach that routinely found ways to squander talent advantages, but here I am just hours before kickoff as calm as I’ve ever been before one of these.
Perhaps it’s because of the 8 losses coming in or the 20½ point spread — the highest in the history of the series. Maybe it’s because Tressel owns this team or the fact that only three times before have the two powers met with such a disparity in conference standing and on each occasion the bottom-feeder was shutout.
The truth is, it’s a little bit of all of that, but the biggest reason I’m feeling so confident is because I think Michigan finally made that bad hire that every program makes at one point or another. I guess there’s that part about the team being dinged-up and terrible, but let’s stick to the coach.
The Wolverines have been playing football since dirt sat atop the food chain and never before had a team suffered more than seven losses in a season. This guy is staring down the barrel at number nine.
His hiring has been nothing but drama since day one and although his supporters will gladly point out his coaching curve in which teams stink the first season, progress in year two and then explode in year three, I stand firm in the belief that good coaches do not go .250, regardless of team, era or any other circumstances.*
Injuries, defections, losses on the recruiting front, the three decade bowl streak over — Rodriguez year one has been nothing short of a comedy of errors. With each passing day his own fanbase loses confidence in his ability and he hasn’t done himself any favors with curious press conferences the week of the biggest game on his schedule.
So I eagerly look forward to the game Saturday, but with a hint of sadness. I want the good Michigan back. I want this game to mean something big again for both teams. As crazy as it sounds, I kind of miss the jitters that normally accompany me into this game.
And I have a feeling Woody would feel the same way.
Opponent
Earlier in the week, Rodriguez reflected on the chase to land Pryor, the freak of nature that’s currently starting as a freshman for the Buckeyes. He would have fit nicely into his system and started from the opener and this game would perhaps have a lot more riding on it. Instead, thanks to an injury to starter Steven Threet, the Wolverines will be pinning their hopes on the shoulders of redshirt sophomore Nick Sheridan. Never more than an honorable mention all-conference selection in high school, Sheridan brings 48.7% completion percentage and two touchdowns against five interceptions into the biggest game he’s ever played in.
In the loss to Northwestern last week, you can only describe his play as “terrible”. 8 of 29 for 61 yards. To be fair, the weather was not exactly conducive to throwing the ball, but let’s not forget that he was the backup to Steven Threet, himself a mediocre quarterback, before being thrust into starting duty.
There’s word that freshman Justin Feagin will see the field and you have to think that will be true whether it’s in the form of relief for a poor-performing Sheridan or mop-up time at the end of the game. He brings different skills to the table, most notably in the form of his mobility, but Juice Williams he is not.
The offense is a little more diverse than the run-first schemes employed by Rodriguez at West Virginia, mostly because there’s not a Slaton or Smith on this team, but it’s still a running offense at heart. Leading rusher Sam McGuffie did not play last week against Northwestern and after transfer rumors broke earlier in the week, Rodriguez mentioned that he hoped to have him available for Saturday’s game.
Junior Brandon Minor is slated to get the start and he’s had a couple of good performances on the season, including 117 against Penn State and 155 against Purdue. Brittle Carlos Brown was the horse last week with 115 in the Northwestern game and he’ll expect to see a handful of touches against the Buckeyes.
When Sheridan (or Feagin) puts the ball in the air, he’ll be looking towards junior Greg Mathews and freshman Martavious Odoms. Odoms, part of the first wave of Rodriguez’s Florida haul leads the team in receptions with 44, but has yet to find his way into the end zone. Mathews leads the team in receiving yards with 409 and has two touchdowns on the season. Bottom line: neither are a threat given the guy lining up behind center. To further underscore the situation Michigan’s passing game finds itself in, tight end Mike Massey, a captain, enters the game with zero receptions.
The Wolverines lost one of their best offensive lineman before the season when Justin Boren transfered to Ohio State of all places. On Saturday, there’s a chance they could be without the only other standout on that unit as right tackle Stephen Schilling is listed as questionable. The system doesn’t yield a lot of sacks as Michigan enters having only allowed 19 on the season, but the running game won’t exactly be looking forward to wide lanes either.
You don’t mess with the ZoltanThe Wolverine defense, long thought to be the one safe commodity heading into this season, has underperformed as well. Five opponents have put up 35 or more against Scott Shafer’s unit this season, including Notre Dame and Purdue of all teams.
The front is decent, led by seniors Terrance Taylor, Will Johnson and Tim Jamison. Taylor, in particular, has excellent size and Jamison checks in with 7.5 sacks on the year from his end spot. Junior Brandon Graham has 18 TFLs from the other end spot.
Linebacker Obi Ezeh, a freshman All-American in 2007, is a tackling machine and is one of the few Michigan defenders that would see time as a Buckeye. Mouton and Thompson, the other backers are good but not great.
Corner Morgan Trent and his blazing speed is the leader of the secondary despite registering an off year thus far. Sophomore Donovan Warren starts opposite trent and he already has 22 starts under his belt though he is small enough for Dane to punk, so that has to bode well.
The best player on Michigan’s roster may be the guy that’s seen the most work. Punter Zoltan Mesko, the Graham Harrell of punting, has NFL potential and the Wolverines are second in the nation in net punting. He should get plenty of chances to show off in front of a national audience.
Buckeye Breakdown
At the beginning of month, Tressel challenged Beanie Wells to top the number of rushing yards he put up last November: 467. With only three games in the month, it was a tall order, but heading into the game, Beanie is just 184 yards short of that total. Or 38 less than he put up against a better Wolverine defense last season.
Beanie has played huge in every Michigan game of his career and there’s no reason to doubt he won’t find a way to do the same this weekend. Though he may not top 200 this time (but it wouldn’t shock me if he did), he should be in store for a big day. He is one of the guys on this team that definitely gets this rivalry. He was the vocal leader in the locker room last fall in Ann Arbor and as an Ohio kid, he’s dreamt about Michigan games since he was able to walk.
It will be interesting to see how Pryor responds in this game. This is the second game he’s started this year that will have a little bit more riding on it than the outcome. The first was against Penn State and his home state power. Although he played well in that game, things did not end as he envisioned and he suffered the first loss of his career as a starter at Ohio State. On Saturday, he’ll square off against the coach that came closest to snatching him away from Tressel and I’d be surprised if he gets much sleep at all Friday night.
I’m a little concerned about how the offense comes out at home. For whatever reason, the team seems to play a lot looser on the road, but as Pryor has progressed with each week, I’m still eager to see what they’ll do.
Quite a few seniors will be playing in their final home game and they will be looking to go out with (one hell of a) bang. It should be a special day for Boone, Robiskie, Rehring, Person, Smith, Nicol, Abdallah, Laurinaitis, Freeman and Jenkins. Although things haven’t exactly gone as planned for this group, they have a chance to leave as the winningest group of seniors in program history and that’s saying something.
We’ve piled on plenty, but we all owe them a debt of gratitude for deciding to return for their senior seasons. May Animal get one more bone-crushing hit in the Shoe, Jenkins another punt block or interception and Robo a bomb or three.
One senior, who has been largely forgotten since the USC debacle has displayed class beyond anything I could comprehend. Boeckman handled his demotion with grace and a team-first attitude that should be emulated by any future Buckeyes coming into the program. I don’t think I’m alone in hoping for a quick early lead so he can get some extended playing time.
Prediction
Michigan knows that this game is their season and they will come out and punch the Buckeyes in the mouth. In the end, the horses just aren’t there and at risk of sounding like the captain of the Titanic, I just don’t see a way for the Buckeyes to lose this game. My only fear is that Tressel won’t hang 50 on them because if he gets up by about 17 or so, it’ll be run-city for the remainder of the game. Unless Evil Tressel makes an appearance, that is.
Ohio State 31, Michigan 6
* It’s been pointed out that Tressel went 2-9 his first season at YSU. I would then like to amend my above statement to read: “… good coaches do not go .250, regardless of team, era or any other circumstances — unless it’s your first ever season coaching and it’s at a I-AA with no real football tradition.”
“I stand firm in the belief that good coaches do not go .250, regardless of team, era or any other circumstances.”
it’s funny you say that, since Tressel went 2-9 in his first season at youngstown state
Yeah, I would prefer facing a good Michigan. It’s just not the same. But I disagree with you about Rodriguez. As much of a nightmare this season has been for TSUN, I still fully believe he’ll have his system working in a couple years. With a little more experience and more importantly the right personnel, he’ll have his program back where it needs to be.
As for the seniors, in coming back, pretty much all of them except Jenkins hurt their draft stock. Everyone found out Animal Jr. was just good, not great. Alex Boone’s draft stock plummeted obviously. Boeckman’s probably completely off the radar. Robo hasn’t had the chance to really show anyone what he can do this year. Beanie I’m afraid could be playing his last game in the Shoe, so he’ll try to put up like 300 yards. I expect Tressel to send them off the right way though. I posted about it the other day, but I actually had a dream (nightmare?) last night that Boeckman started the game.
Tressel went 7-5 in his first year with the Buckeyes and all the talent residing there. Were not talking about DICK Rod’s first year being a head coach here; there’s NO excuse for taking CFB’s winningest program with all that talent and promptly destroying everything they represent. GOOD coaches find ways to win; Bup Bup Bup, there’s no room here for closet Michigan fans.
JM,
There’s nothing “closet Michigan fan” about saying that RR will have a good program in a couple of years. The guy is not just married to his system–he’s whipped by his system. I’ll concede that this makes him a worse overall coach, JM, but once he gets the system rolling, well,…let’s just say we better figure out how to defend the spread with excellence. The rivalry will return to peak levels once he gets some recruiting classes to buy in to his system and some seniors who believe in what he’s doing (and LiC’s clone to run his offense). What about the man’s past would lead you to believe he’s a bad coach? He was one win away from the MNC game last year at a Big Least School.
Bottom line: RR and Michigan will have some great teams in years to come. Just because he doesn’t know what to do with his talent now doesn’t mean he won’t know what to do with the kinds of players that fit his system best.
Flip — One more sub-.500 season and he won’t be there to see his system take hold. UM fans hate him almost as much as you and I hate um fans.
8:23 and their team still sucks!
My prediction (from the beginning) is that this is a bad fit and Rich Rod will be gone in year 3—— Les Miles will be the next coach. He would have been the coach if LSU had not got to the title game last season and Kirk Herbstreit had not broke the story on ESPN.
If Tressel has the chance, he should put the game away early..period!!! Forget what the scoreboard says and keep scoring until the last second. Forget rubbing it in…..play better defense. With all that being said, I expect Michigan to throw all caution to the wind and give OSU a game from the start. OSU is gonna have to rip their hearts out early and often to end it. Michigan has no bowl game, so they can only go up from here. Ohio State has show that it has trouble coming back from a big deficit and that will be what Michigan tries to do.
I don’t think they have the horses to get it done, and I think the OSU D will be all over the QB’s………… but Miiiiiiiiiiichigan will play hard and score a few times early………. OSU dominates and wears them out late.
OSU 38 Mich 17
I actually heard a great comment from ESPN in regards to Dick Rod. They were wondering why the team that beat Florida in a bowl game was struggling this badly. One of the talking heads said that Dick Rod has been proven to be a good coach but not of the great ones. “Great coaches mold the system around the talent they have, and Michigan has a lot of talent this year. Great coaches do not mold the talent into a set and rigid system.” If you can’t be flexible then you won’t be winning week in and week out.
That is a great observation……… Tressel has changed his offense to fit talent several times…. Troy Smith, and now for Pryor…….. gotta work with the horses you have and not force them to run a race they cant win. DickRod will run this program into the ground…….
UM went through a lot and spent a lot of money for RichRod to get there. He’s kind of a big investment for them to just give up on him in 2 years. They’ll give him a chance with his recruits and if he still can’t get it done, then yeah he’s likely out.
If I were Tressel, I’d let Boeckman start the game. Most early drives seem to be a series of handoffs to establish the tempo and tenor of the game, anyway, and Boeckman can throw some easy slants and overs. I’d give him a chance to start The Game in his senior season, but I’m a softy.
I realize there are a thousand reasons not to do this, so don’t start the crucifixion just yet. I’m just sayin’….
(I expect a very, very close game. Go Bucks!)
You all sound like a bunch of morons and just flat out state opinions with no facts or basis. Les Miles the next Michigan coach? Are you a lot dumber than you sound? That’s not going to happen…..Let’s look at Rich Rod’s career as a coach:
head coach:
Glenville State
90 1-7-1
91 4-5-1
93 6-4
94 10-3 (conference champs)
94-96 (conference champs)
offensive coordinator:
tulane green wave
97 7-4
98 12-0
offensive coordinator:
clemson tigers
99 6-6
00 9-3
head coach:
wvu
01 3-8
02 9-4
03 8-5
04 8-4
05 11-1
06 11-2
07 10-2
No, but your predictons are probably right. Predictions usually tell us the fate of the future rather than history itself.
Joe… I feel for Boeckman and he probably deserves it, but Tress Cant start Boeckman…. Pryor is the starter now. What I hope for is alot of point early and Boeckman to get alot of time… he has been a good Buckeye despite all his shortcomings
ITS ALMOST HERE BOYS! Almost within 24 hrs. to kickoff
DickRod is a scUM, will always be a scUM, and I hope that he turns scUM around as much as the next guy….nothing better than beating TSUN when they have something to play for. Ruin their hopes and dreams and take their first born children. LOL
Corey-
Thanks for the stickers man. I just checked my mail last night and got them. Quite a few I might add. Thanks for the love note too, my girl thought it was ‘cute’ LOL. Gonna go ahead and hand out a bunch at the game tomorrow with the alumni association, so 11W will be represented in Albany to the fullest.
Oh, name calling huh…. very adult way to have a debate… Blue man?? are you in the wrong blog??
Les Miles wants the job badly and he has publicly stated it…. stranger things have happened…Shula at Alabama….. Willingham at Washington
let’s see what DickRod does next year…. Michigan is not Granville state, Tulane, WVU, or clemson……. the Alumni will not be that patient… he gets 3 years to produce I predict. And for the record, and opinion is just that… mine and mine only. Have a nice day
And Blue Man-
We make predictions man. Fuck you for being a Miiiiiiiichigan fan anyways, what a raw deal you got there huh? Enjoy the thorough beating our men put on your boys….look on the bright side tho, should be able to get your second string in there right after halftime and start prepping for next year right?
Dick Rod is out of his league in the Big-10…. he will suffer the same mediocrity as Joe Tiller did at Purdue
I like your prediction. Probably similar to last year when Tressel ran the clock out with Chris Wells the second half.
Blue man…
Did you cut and paste that yourself??? How long has that been saved in a Microsoft word file just in case you needed it???
I am awed by your blog debating skills! Michigan taught you well!!!!
Im gonna have to break out my “Jesus Love Tailgaters…..but HATES Miiiiiiiiichigan” shirt tomorrow I think
Ok I’ll take a lesson from you Palm Beach and debate the way of the buckeyes. I predict that next year RR will be conference champs and national champs. I believe they will be so good in the next couple years they will be invited to the rose bowl, sugar bowl, cotton bowl, and whatever bowl the national championship game is all in one year. I predict that In the next couple years men will live on the moon and drive flying cars, which will be obsolete by this time as U.S.A. will have a much greater public transportation system in place…..teleportation. I predict that once all this is accomplished your testicles will actually drop into your sack. God, I do feel smart. Predicting with deliberate obscurity is so easy. I should’ve done this years ago.
Gump….. (blue man)…… you’re a g-D Damn Genius!!!
PB-
Only if Genius = Douchebag
Am my the only one who wouldn’t mind rolling over and seeing Rita-Rod in all her safari glory? Granted my vision has me rolling over next to her in a Flying J truckstop parking lot, not knowing how I got there, but thankful for all the tricks she taught me. DickRod is clearly not her first rodeo….
are you on meds for your delusions?? and do you know Go Blue, because your sarcasm is very familiar?? Testicles and sack… nice, very nice.
Grab yours before the game tommorow and hang on tight!
Thanks for always having my back Skiman…..
RitaRod scares me.
Blue Man, there’s nothing impressive about winning 3, 8 or 9 games in your first four years at West Virginia…..because they win those games in the Big East
When Ohio State plays Cincinnati, it’s considered “part of the Buckeyes cupcake schedule”.
When WVU plays Cincinnati, it’s considered a “marquee matchup in the Big East”.
Nuff said.
Jeff-
I havent seen that name since I clicked over to the BBC a few minutes ago……
I dont know about you guys, but tomorrow is better than X-mas for me…..and before anyone asks….not jewish
Yes I guess you’re right. In 07′ the big ten was a lot more dominant than the Big East and OSU had several more impressive wins than did WVU. I mean that 78th in the country SOS really disproves me, and that 06 SOS ranked 101 adds to your argument. No but I totally see your point in how OSU plays a much tougher schedule being in the big ten. This year you have me but we are talking RR years at WVU
Nuff Said
PB-
No need to mention it, I’d have a Buckeye fans back on anything……
http://www.steelerhaters.com
Go there guys and check out the pic of the little kid about halfway down the page….its my background for the week
I love it… I have seen that before … and I always have a buckeye fans back as well…. especially from the blindside!
Mike Hart…..the best running back in Miiiiiiiichigan history….Jake Long, the best O-lineman Miiiiiichigan has ever had…..were both 0-4 vs. the Bucks Ouch! Stings doesn’t it?
‘Nuff said Keep drinking the DickRod Kool-Aid motherfucker
I hate Michigan with every fiber of my being and every ounce of Rita Rod’s juices!
Not that I generally feed the trolls, but m*ch*g*n being conference AND national champs next year? Seriously? I know all about hyperbole spoken in frustration, but - come on.
I don’t doubt that Rodriguez can coach - I don’t doubt that at all. What I do doubt is whether he and his approach “fit” with the overriding culture at m*ch*g*n. He reminds me of John Cooper in so many ways - good recruiter, good all-around coach, but just not “one of us,” and doesn’t really understand the import the fan base will put on the last game of the year. He even has Cooper’s drawl.
I think he’ll be a solid coach at m*ch*g*n, but I don’t see him ever fitting in there, and I agree with Palm Beach - he’ll have a short tenure. I think he’ll look for an opportunity to take his act someplace else. I’ll be surprised if we don’t hear his name mentioned in and around the Clemson job, to be honest.
I look at that professed anti-Steelers site and almost feel badly for Clowns fans.
Almost.
Well put, but fuck that. I want Michigan to lose every game they play for the rest of my life.
Joe Fox-well put but you failed to interpret the complete and utter sarcasm in the previous statement that you are responding to. No, they probably won’t be conference champs next year, and they are an extremely absurd long shot to even be in contention to even be considered to play in the national championship game next year……and mike hart best running back ever? Did I fail to see the sarcasm in that statement?
I agree Joe, but what is disturbing is the defections from inside the team that appear to be continuing after the season….. I don’t remember that with coop…. something strange going on up there…
GO AWAY!!
If Mike Hart is not the best scUM RB ever, then who is? Butch Woolfolk? Rob Lytle? Chris Perry? Tim Biakabatuka? Tyrone Wheatley? Kevin Grady? (just kidding)
RitaRod’s hair could probably kick the shit out of Chuck Norris’ beard.
Mike Hart was the best Miiiiichigan back ever to play there…..thats a fact, if not please enlighten me….and if you even think about saying Biakabuttfuck you lose all credibility
CORRECTION: no matter what you say you have no credibility here, due to the fact that you root for the Urine & Blew
Kevin Grady LMAO I get better runs in my shorts than he gets got on the field
I know …. The great white hope Sam McGuffie!
I’d say tom harmon, but in this era I would have to say tyrone wheatley…chris perry even.
You mean the great white hype……sam mcguffie
I personally love this trend of Miiiiiiiiiiichigan fans on our sites because they hate their own…..classic
rumor has it that McGuffie is abandoning ship too. Not a happy family
RitaRod gave out lapdances the week of THE GAME and everyone is now defecting……with a burning case of herpes and a pinch of trichomaniasis…..see scUM fans…your not the only ones that know big words LOL
I LOVE MIIIIIIIIIIIIICHIGAN WEEK!
Palm Beach, that was yesterday’s news (literally). McGuffie has since returned from Texas and will be in Columbus for the game. As of now his status is up in the air, but he is probable to play tomorrow.
if he is such a great coach, why are all these great players jumping off the ship… and thanks for Justin Boren
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/83407-michigan-mcexodus-sam-mcguffie-others-planning-to-transfer
No, we don’t hate our own we just have the ability to be rational and see what the real attributes of a player are. Just cause i believe mcguffie is completely and utterly over hyped doesn’t mean he can’t prove me wrong. Wouldn’t it be worse for me to come here and state that mcguffie is going to be the savior of this program, or just state the obvious that mcguffie received much if not all of his accolades from being a youtube sensation? This is college ball. The stature of these Div-1 linebackers are much different than that of some high school senior, or worse a high school junior and on down the line from there. I read much worse about Boeckman on this site and how a lot of you wanted to throw a 6 year senior, who just led you to the NC game, under the bus for a poor performance against USC.
For the record….DickRod did NOTHING before he got Pat White at WVU…..he left knowing that White would prolly go to the next level…..without Pat White DickRod is a middle of the pack coach in the Big East of all confrences……just pointing that out for the kool-aid drinkers
CORRECTION-
We DID throw Boeckman under the bus after that shitshow. He has only played in garbage time since
And TB was simply the QB in an offense dominated by the run….Beanie and our top rated D led us to the MNC game
Blue Man:
1. I 110% agree with you about McGuffie. Everyone has sung his praises this year, but he is way overrated. Sure he’s a freshman, but I just don’t see a lot of upside to him. Congrats on hurdling over inept scrawny HS DBs I guess? He’s a 3rd/4th string RB on an already ‘meh’ RB stable.
2. There’s more to Boeckman than the USC game. His last like 7 games from the USC game were enough to show me that he is not a starting QB. His PSU performance was a fluke, and he looked good against the first 5 or so cupcakes we faced last year, but he crumbles in the face of pressure. Of course, it is well documented on here that the OL is mostly at fault, so it’s not like we completely threw Boeckman under the bus… but the fact that he IS a 6th year senior yet still has a presence in the pocket like a freshman means that he shouldn’t be starting behind our porous OL.
Well spoken Flip-
You didn’t secretly go to NU with the nerds did you?
Boeckman is a 6th Year senior who stopped progressing Mid-Last year. He started to regress and the TEAM suffered for it. There were no other options as Henton lost out on his time to play because of the infamous hooker suspension, so the staff HAD to play Boeckman. Boeckman is a good guy and probably banging the shit out of Heacock’s daughter, but if OSU was going to get to the next level it had to be with Pryor. Team first, egos checked at the door…. best players play.
Hell no, OSU alum all the way.
Excellent insight buckeyeski…..From what I know about college football this year is that Pat White stayed at WVU. They were pre-seasoned ranked #8 with high hopes. They currently are ranked….hmmm oh shit they aren’t ranked. They are the same basic team as last year and were supposed to be better. Makes you kind of think about whether it was the coaching. “DickRod did NOTHING before he got Pat White at WVU…..he left knowing that White would prolly go to the next level…..without Pat White DickRod is a middle of the pack coach in the Big East of all confrence.” This is like saying Jim Tressel only was a good coach after he had Maurice Clarret, Troy Smith, Ted Ginn, aj hawk, beanie wells, and pyror (and you can name the rest better than I can) and he would be a middle of the pack coach without them. It’s about recruiting. He recruited that player and put him into his system and the rest was history from there. Come up with something logical to defend your arguments.
Good thought so Flip, just checking
PB just nailed it Blue Man…..back to AA for you
Buckeyeski I think you should go back to your duties as just saying well spoken and nice point cause your arguments can’t hold any water.
how that for logic Blue Balls!
how’s
That’s true about Boeckman and knew this all along, but I do recall, not from the guys I’m seeing here, many people trying to put boeckman as one of the top quarterbacks in the NCAA before the season started. I saw one of your fellow bloggers even comparing him to Sanchez before the USC game only to spit foul mouthed comments at him the day after. These however, I’m guessing are the irrational fans and every fan base does have them. (Not putting the smart ones on this site into that category)
How is that not logical? RR’s entire system hangs on whether he has the talent….point in case this pathetic ’season’ up in AA. Tressel has had every different kind of QB you can have in his short tenure as the CEO of the mighty Buckeyes, BUT he seems to win the B11 title year after year? Why you ask? Because he is a superior coach that adapts to his players. There is only take with DickRod no give. Tressel makes it work and we can literally have a different offensive scheme every 2-3 seasons, but we still win titles year in and year out. Get used to mediocrity because that is all you will get with DickRod at the helm. Personally, I cant wait till he is gone, so that this rivalry can mean something again…….
In the top of the NCAA in quarterbacks…got a lil ahead of myself
So what you’re saying is…..If you gave tressel the michigan clipboard right now he would be able to adapt to this Michigan team and make them big ten champs? Like I said go back to your inferior position on just commenting on others well educated thought out posts and let these other guys do the debating for you.
My arguments dont hold any water? Your right they physically cannot do that, they are simply words typed on the internet tough-guy. Speaking of holding things…..why don’t you try and get your receivers to hold on to the ball….when your leading receiver has less than 500 total yards that is PATHETIC…….why are you even here? You shoulda killed yourself after week 3
Everybody’s system relies on whether you have the talent wise guy.
Yes I do believe that if Tressel was handed the Michigan Clipboard at the beginning of this season, he would not have this kind of record…..at least in the running for the B10 title
This guy is a fucking joke…..enjoy the game tomorrow I know I will
Nice Point Ski
Here we go again…Buckeyeski can’t propose a legitimate argument so he has to revert to the elementary aspects of a debate. Taking the figure of speech of holding water and turning it into a literal definition of the word in some lame attempt to be funny “or one up me.” (I know how can I one up you do I have a scoreboard with our names on it and I put up 1 and you 0….I get it). Then he has to bring up a topic completely out of context. I’m here cause I was defending an argument about RR and I’ll say it again step down boy let the grown ups do your work.
To the dude with RR’s records: (douche man)
If Um is not in a BCS bowl by year 3 he is “hasta la vista”,
Also, I cant see how a bunch of 2 loss and almost there seasons keep his job.
Carr had a bunch of those and where is he??
Besides, RR is out of his league, flash in the pan, gimmick offenses cannot compete in a conference like the B10.
I think Bobby Bowden stood by the veer too, but he eventually had to adjust also.
One trick ponies are what they are, there to be beaten.
And what type of changes would tressel make? How would he react to the players he was given? If you want to debate something put some logic into it. Nearly any coach right now with the talent OSU has would be in the same position as Tressel. Hell I can think of a few that would probably only have one loss on their record.
I guess Im just so immature….but this coming from somebody who is on another teams site instead of his own, because they suck so bad he wanted just a taste of what its like to be a winner, talking shit and “debating”……Miiiiiiichigan must have a stellar debate team because they’re football team flat out sucks….one of the worst teams in CFB HISTORY
I have no problem being a little kid or immature or not an adult…because either way im taking your insults and putting them right next to all of the trophies
Fuck you and your team Blue Balls
How is that for adult?
Guys I’m out of Troll food……can anyone hook me up?
Yeah, he won a NC with mediocre talent.
You couldnt see any differnce in the Troy Smith offense and the Todd Suckman offense?
Do you watch football? I have my doubts.
Besides, I never said Tress is totally safe at OSU, if he doesnt start bringin home the bacon soon, he will be out on his keester also.
Changes, nearly every year its a different OSU offense. Not like some thick headed West Virginian who tries to make Nick Sheridan into Pat White.
Dude, go drink some coffee or something, then get on my level.