Preview: #11 Ohio State vs. Michigan
Michigan Man Rich Rodriguez and family
 #11 Ohio State 9-2, 6-1 Big Ten Roster | Schedule |
November 22, 2008 12:00 PM ET – ABC —— Ohio Stadium Columbus, OH |
 Michigan 3-8, 2-5 Big Ten Roster | Schedule |
It’s a weird and unfamiliar feeling heading into this 105th edition of The Game. My formative years were destroyed every November thanks to a nail-biting coach that routinely found ways to squander talent advantages, but here I am just hours before kickoff as calm as I’ve ever been before one of these.
Perhaps it’s because of the 8 losses coming in or the 20½ point spread — the highest in the history of the series. Maybe it’s because Tressel owns this team or the fact that only three times before have the two powers met with such a disparity in conference standing and on each occasion the bottom-feeder was shutout.
The truth is, it’s a little bit of all of that, but the biggest reason I’m feeling so confident is because I think Michigan finally made that bad hire that every program makes at one point or another. I guess there’s that part about the team being dinged-up and terrible, but let’s stick to the coach.
The Wolverines have been playing football since dirt sat atop the food chain and never before had a team suffered more than seven losses in a season. This guy is staring down the barrel at number nine.
His hiring has been nothing but drama since day one and although his supporters will gladly point out his coaching curve in which teams stink the first season, progress in year two and then explode in year three, I stand firm in the belief that good coaches do not go .250, regardless of team, era or any other circumstances.*
Injuries, defections, losses on the recruiting front, the three decade bowl streak over — Rodriguez year one has been nothing short of a comedy of errors. With each passing day his own fanbase loses confidence in his ability and he hasn’t done himself any favors with curious press conferences the week of the biggest game on his schedule.
So I eagerly look forward to the game Saturday, but with a hint of sadness. I want the good Michigan back. I want this game to mean something big again for both teams. As crazy as it sounds, I kind of miss the jitters that normally accompany me into this game.
And I have a feeling Woody would feel the same way.
Opponent
Earlier in the week, Rodriguez reflected on the chase to land Pryor, the freak of nature that’s currently starting as a freshman for the Buckeyes. He would have fit nicely into his system and started from the opener and this game would perhaps have a lot more riding on it. Instead, thanks to an injury to starter Steven Threet, the Wolverines will be pinning their hopes on the shoulders of redshirt sophomore Nick Sheridan. Never more than an honorable mention all-conference selection in high school, Sheridan brings 48.7% completion percentage and two touchdowns against five interceptions into the biggest game he’s ever played in.
In the loss to Northwestern last week, you can only describe his play as “terrible”. 8 of 29 for 61 yards. To be fair, the weather was not exactly conducive to throwing the ball, but let’s not forget that he was the backup to Steven Threet, himself a mediocre quarterback, before being thrust into starting duty.
There’s word that freshman Justin Feagin will see the field and you have to think that will be true whether it’s in the form of relief for a poor-performing Sheridan or mop-up time at the end of the game. He brings different skills to the table, most notably in the form of his mobility, but Juice Williams he is not.
The offense is a little more diverse than the run-first schemes employed by Rodriguez at West Virginia, mostly because there’s not a Slaton or Smith on this team, but it’s still a running offense at heart. Leading rusher Sam McGuffie did not play last week against Northwestern and after transfer rumors broke earlier in the week, Rodriguez mentioned that he hoped to have him available for Saturday’s game.
Junior Brandon Minor is slated to get the start and he’s had a couple of good performances on the season, including 117 against Penn State and 155 against Purdue. Brittle Carlos Brown was the horse last week with 115 in the Northwestern game and he’ll expect to see a handful of touches against the Buckeyes.
When Sheridan (or Feagin) puts the ball in the air, he’ll be looking towards junior Greg Mathews and freshman Martavious Odoms. Odoms, part of the first wave of Rodriguez’s Florida haul leads the team in receptions with 44, but has yet to find his way into the end zone. Mathews leads the team in receiving yards with 409 and has two touchdowns on the season. Bottom line: neither are a threat given the guy lining up behind center. To further underscore the situation Michigan’s passing game finds itself in, tight end Mike Massey, a captain, enters the game with zero receptions.
The Wolverines lost one of their best offensive lineman before the season when Justin Boren transfered to Ohio State of all places. On Saturday, there’s a chance they could be without the only other standout on that unit as right tackle Stephen Schilling is listed as questionable. The system doesn’t yield a lot of sacks as Michigan enters having only allowed 19 on the season, but the running game won’t exactly be looking forward to wide lanes either.
You don’t mess with the ZoltanThe Wolverine defense, long thought to be the one safe commodity heading into this season, has underperformed as well. Five opponents have put up 35 or more against Scott Shafer’s unit this season, including Notre Dame and Purdue of all teams.
The front is decent, led by seniors Terrance Taylor, Will Johnson and Tim Jamison. Taylor, in particular, has excellent size and Jamison checks in with 7.5 sacks on the year from his end spot. Junior Brandon Graham has 18 TFLs from the other end spot.
Linebacker Obi Ezeh, a freshman All-American in 2007, is a tackling machine and is one of the few Michigan defenders that would see time as a Buckeye. Mouton and Thompson, the other backers are good but not great.
Corner Morgan Trent and his blazing speed is the leader of the secondary despite registering an off year thus far. Sophomore Donovan Warren starts opposite trent and he already has 22 starts under his belt though he is small enough for Dane to punk, so that has to bode well.
The best player on Michigan’s roster may be the guy that’s seen the most work. Punter Zoltan Mesko, the Graham Harrell of punting, has NFL potential and the Wolverines are second in the nation in net punting. He should get plenty of chances to show off in front of a national audience.
Buckeye Breakdown
At the beginning of month, Tressel challenged Beanie Wells to top the number of rushing yards he put up last November: 467. With only three games in the month, it was a tall order, but heading into the game, Beanie is just 184 yards short of that total. Or 38 less than he put up against a better Wolverine defense last season.
Beanie has played huge in every Michigan game of his career and there’s no reason to doubt he won’t find a way to do the same this weekend. Though he may not top 200 this time (but it wouldn’t shock me if he did), he should be in store for a big day. He is one of the guys on this team that definitely gets this rivalry. He was the vocal leader in the locker room last fall in Ann Arbor and as an Ohio kid, he’s dreamt about Michigan games since he was able to walk.
It will be interesting to see how Pryor responds in this game. This is the second game he’s started this year that will have a little bit more riding on it than the outcome. The first was against Penn State and his home state power. Although he played well in that game, things did not end as he envisioned and he suffered the first loss of his career as a starter at Ohio State. On Saturday, he’ll square off against the coach that came closest to snatching him away from Tressel and I’d be surprised if he gets much sleep at all Friday night.
I’m a little concerned about how the offense comes out at home. For whatever reason, the team seems to play a lot looser on the road, but as Pryor has progressed with each week, I’m still eager to see what they’ll do.
Quite a few seniors will be playing in their final home game and they will be looking to go out with (one hell of a) bang. It should be a special day for Boone, Robiskie, Rehring, Person, Smith, Nicol, Abdallah, Laurinaitis, Freeman and Jenkins. Although things haven’t exactly gone as planned for this group, they have a chance to leave as the winningest group of seniors in program history and that’s saying something.
We’ve piled on plenty, but we all owe them a debt of gratitude for deciding to return for their senior seasons. May Animal get one more bone-crushing hit in the Shoe, Jenkins another punt block or interception and Robo a bomb or three.
One senior, who has been largely forgotten since the USC debacle has displayed class beyond anything I could comprehend. Boeckman handled his demotion with grace and a team-first attitude that should be emulated by any future Buckeyes coming into the program. I don’t think I’m alone in hoping for a quick early lead so he can get some extended playing time.
Prediction
Michigan knows that this game is their season and they will come out and punch the Buckeyes in the mouth. In the end, the horses just aren’t there and at risk of sounding like the captain of the Titanic, I just don’t see a way for the Buckeyes to lose this game. My only fear is that Tressel won’t hang 50 on them because if he gets up by about 17 or so, it’ll be run-city for the remainder of the game. Unless Evil Tressel makes an appearance, that is.
Ohio State 31, Michigan 6
* It’s been pointed out that Tressel went 2-9 his first season at YSU. I would then like to amend my above statement to read: “… good coaches do not go .250, regardless of team, era or any other circumstances — unless it’s your first ever season coaching and it’s at a I-AA with no real football tradition.”
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“I stand firm in the belief that good coaches do not go .250, regardless of team, era or any other circumstances.”
it’s funny you say that, since Tressel went 2-9 in his first season at youngstown state
Yeah, I would prefer facing a good Michigan. It’s just not the same. But I disagree with you about Rodriguez. As much of a nightmare this season has been for TSUN, I still fully believe he’ll have his system working in a couple years. With a little more experience and more importantly the right personnel, he’ll have his program back where it needs to be.
As for the seniors, in coming back, pretty much all of them except Jenkins hurt their draft stock. Everyone found out Animal Jr. was just good, not great. Alex Boone’s draft stock plummeted obviously. Boeckman’s probably completely off the radar. Robo hasn’t had the chance to really show anyone what he can do this year. Beanie I’m afraid could be playing his last game in the Shoe, so he’ll try to put up like 300 yards. I expect Tressel to send them off the right way though. I posted about it the other day, but I actually had a dream (nightmare?) last night that Boeckman started the game.
Tressel went 7-5 in his first year with the Buckeyes and all the talent residing there. Were not talking about DICK Rod’s first year being a head coach here; there’s NO excuse for taking CFB’s winningest program with all that talent and promptly destroying everything they represent. GOOD coaches find ways to win; Bup Bup Bup, there’s no room here for closet Michigan fans.
JM,
There’s nothing “closet Michigan fan” about saying that RR will have a good program in a couple of years. The guy is not just married to his system–he’s whipped by his system. I’ll concede that this makes him a worse overall coach, JM, but once he gets the system rolling, well,…let’s just say we better figure out how to defend the spread with excellence. The rivalry will return to peak levels once he gets some recruiting classes to buy in to his system and some seniors who believe in what he’s doing (and LiC’s clone to run his offense). What about the man’s past would lead you to believe he’s a bad coach? He was one win away from the MNC game last year at a Big Least School.
Bottom line: RR and Michigan will have some great teams in years to come. Just because he doesn’t know what to do with his talent now doesn’t mean he won’t know what to do with the kinds of players that fit his system best.
Flip — One more sub-.500 season and he won’t be there to see his system take hold. UM fans hate him almost as much as you and I hate um fans.
8:23 and their team still sucks!
My prediction (from the beginning) is that this is a bad fit and Rich Rod will be gone in year 3—— Les Miles will be the next coach. He would have been the coach if LSU had not got to the title game last season and Kirk Herbstreit had not broke the story on ESPN.
If Tressel has the chance, he should put the game away early..period!!! Forget what the scoreboard says and keep scoring until the last second. Forget rubbing it in…..play better defense. With all that being said, I expect Michigan to throw all caution to the wind and give OSU a game from the start. OSU is gonna have to rip their hearts out early and often to end it. Michigan has no bowl game, so they can only go up from here. Ohio State has show that it has trouble coming back from a big deficit and that will be what Michigan tries to do.
I don’t think they have the horses to get it done, and I think the OSU D will be all over the QB’s………… but Miiiiiiiiiiichigan will play hard and score a few times early………. OSU dominates and wears them out late.
OSU 38 Mich 17
I actually heard a great comment from ESPN in regards to Dick Rod. They were wondering why the team that beat Florida in a bowl game was struggling this badly. One of the talking heads said that Dick Rod has been proven to be a good coach but not of the great ones. “Great coaches mold the system around the talent they have, and Michigan has a lot of talent this year. Great coaches do not mold the talent into a set and rigid system.” If you can’t be flexible then you won’t be winning week in and week out.
That is a great observation……… Tressel has changed his offense to fit talent several times…. Troy Smith, and now for Pryor…….. gotta work with the horses you have and not force them to run a race they cant win. DickRod will run this program into the ground…….
UM went through a lot and spent a lot of money for RichRod to get there. He’s kind of a big investment for them to just give up on him in 2 years. They’ll give him a chance with his recruits and if he still can’t get it done, then yeah he’s likely out.
If I were Tressel, I’d let Boeckman start the game. Most early drives seem to be a series of handoffs to establish the tempo and tenor of the game, anyway, and Boeckman can throw some easy slants and overs. I’d give him a chance to start The Game in his senior season, but I’m a softy.
I realize there are a thousand reasons not to do this, so don’t start the crucifixion just yet. I’m just sayin’….
(I expect a very, very close game. Go Bucks!)
You all sound like a bunch of morons and just flat out state opinions with no facts or basis. Les Miles the next Michigan coach? Are you a lot dumber than you sound? That’s not going to happen…..Let’s look at Rich Rod’s career as a coach:
head coach:
Glenville State
90 1-7-1
91 4-5-1
93 6-4
94 10-3 (conference champs)
94-96 (conference champs)
offensive coordinator:
tulane green wave
97 7-4
98 12-0
offensive coordinator:
clemson tigers
99 6-6
00 9-3
head coach:
wvu
01 3-8
02 9-4
03 8-5
04 8-4
05 11-1
06 11-2
07 10-2
No, but your predictons are probably right. Predictions usually tell us the fate of the future rather than history itself.
Joe… I feel for Boeckman and he probably deserves it, but Tress Cant start Boeckman…. Pryor is the starter now. What I hope for is alot of point early and Boeckman to get alot of time… he has been a good Buckeye despite all his shortcomings
ITS ALMOST HERE BOYS! Almost within 24 hrs. to kickoff
DickRod is a scUM, will always be a scUM, and I hope that he turns scUM around as much as the next guy….nothing better than beating TSUN when they have something to play for. Ruin their hopes and dreams and take their first born children. LOL
Corey-
Thanks for the stickers man. I just checked my mail last night and got them. Quite a few I might add. Thanks for the love note too, my girl thought it was ‘cute’ LOL. Gonna go ahead and hand out a bunch at the game tomorrow with the alumni association, so 11W will be represented in Albany to the fullest.
Oh, name calling huh…. very adult way to have a debate… Blue man?? are you in the wrong blog??
Les Miles wants the job badly and he has publicly stated it…. stranger things have happened…Shula at Alabama….. Willingham at Washington
let’s see what DickRod does next year…. Michigan is not Granville state, Tulane, WVU, or clemson……. the Alumni will not be that patient… he gets 3 years to produce I predict. And for the record, and opinion is just that… mine and mine only. Have a nice day
And Blue Man-
We make predictions man. Fuck you for being a Miiiiiiiichigan fan anyways, what a raw deal you got there huh? Enjoy the thorough beating our men put on your boys….look on the bright side tho, should be able to get your second string in there right after halftime and start prepping for next year right?
Dick Rod is out of his league in the Big-10…. he will suffer the same mediocrity as Joe Tiller did at Purdue
I like your prediction. Probably similar to last year when Tressel ran the clock out with Chris Wells the second half.
Blue man…
Did you cut and paste that yourself??? How long has that been saved in a Microsoft word file just in case you needed it???
I am awed by your blog debating skills! Michigan taught you well!!!!
Im gonna have to break out my “Jesus Love Tailgaters…..but HATES Miiiiiiiiichigan” shirt tomorrow I think
Ok I’ll take a lesson from you Palm Beach and debate the way of the buckeyes. I predict that next year RR will be conference champs and national champs. I believe they will be so good in the next couple years they will be invited to the rose bowl, sugar bowl, cotton bowl, and whatever bowl the national championship game is all in one year. I predict that In the next couple years men will live on the moon and drive flying cars, which will be obsolete by this time as U.S.A. will have a much greater public transportation system in place…..teleportation. I predict that once all this is accomplished your testicles will actually drop into your sack. God, I do feel smart. Predicting with deliberate obscurity is so easy. I should’ve done this years ago.
Gump….. (blue man)…… you’re a g-D Damn Genius!!!
PB-
Only if Genius = Douchebag
Am my the only one who wouldn’t mind rolling over and seeing Rita-Rod in all her safari glory? Granted my vision has me rolling over next to her in a Flying J truckstop parking lot, not knowing how I got there, but thankful for all the tricks she taught me. DickRod is clearly not her first rodeo….
are you on meds for your delusions?? and do you know Go Blue, because your sarcasm is very familiar?? Testicles and sack… nice, very nice.
Grab yours before the game tommorow and hang on tight!
Thanks for always having my back Skiman…..
RitaRod scares me.
Blue Man, there’s nothing impressive about winning 3, 8 or 9 games in your first four years at West Virginia…..because they win those games in the Big East
When Ohio State plays Cincinnati, it’s considered “part of the Buckeyes cupcake schedule”.
When WVU plays Cincinnati, it’s considered a “marquee matchup in the Big East”.
Nuff said.
Jeff-
I havent seen that name since I clicked over to the BBC a few minutes ago……
I dont know about you guys, but tomorrow is better than X-mas for me…..and before anyone asks….not jewish
Yes I guess you’re right. In 07′ the big ten was a lot more dominant than the Big East and OSU had several more impressive wins than did WVU. I mean that 78th in the country SOS really disproves me, and that 06 SOS ranked 101 adds to your argument. No but I totally see your point in how OSU plays a much tougher schedule being in the big ten. This year you have me but we are talking RR years at WVU
Nuff Said
PB-
No need to mention it, I’d have a Buckeye fans back on anything……
http://www.steelerhaters.com
Go there guys and check out the pic of the little kid about halfway down the page….its my background for the week
I love it… I have seen that before … and I always have a buckeye fans back as well…. especially from the blindside!
Mike Hart…..the best running back in Miiiiiiiichigan history….Jake Long, the best O-lineman Miiiiiichigan has ever had…..were both 0-4 vs. the Bucks Ouch! Stings doesn’t it?
‘Nuff said Keep drinking the DickRod Kool-Aid motherfucker
I hate Michigan with every fiber of my being and every ounce of Rita Rod’s juices!
Not that I generally feed the trolls, but m*ch*g*n being conference AND national champs next year? Seriously? I know all about hyperbole spoken in frustration, but – come on.
I don’t doubt that Rodriguez can coach – I don’t doubt that at all. What I do doubt is whether he and his approach “fit” with the overriding culture at m*ch*g*n. He reminds me of John Cooper in so many ways – good recruiter, good all-around coach, but just not “one of us,” and doesn’t really understand the import the fan base will put on the last game of the year. He even has Cooper’s drawl.
I think he’ll be a solid coach at m*ch*g*n, but I don’t see him ever fitting in there, and I agree with Palm Beach – he’ll have a short tenure. I think he’ll look for an opportunity to take his act someplace else. I’ll be surprised if we don’t hear his name mentioned in and around the Clemson job, to be honest.
I look at that professed anti-Steelers site and almost feel badly for Clowns fans.
Almost.
Well put, but fuck that. I want Michigan to lose every game they play for the rest of my life.
Joe Fox-well put but you failed to interpret the complete and utter sarcasm in the previous statement that you are responding to. No, they probably won’t be conference champs next year, and they are an extremely absurd long shot to even be in contention to even be considered to play in the national championship game next year……and mike hart best running back ever? Did I fail to see the sarcasm in that statement?
I agree Joe, but what is disturbing is the defections from inside the team that appear to be continuing after the season….. I don’t remember that with coop…. something strange going on up there…
GO AWAY!!
If Mike Hart is not the best scUM RB ever, then who is? Butch Woolfolk? Rob Lytle? Chris Perry? Tim Biakabatuka? Tyrone Wheatley? Kevin Grady? (just kidding)
RitaRod’s hair could probably kick the shit out of Chuck Norris’ beard.
Mike Hart was the best Miiiiichigan back ever to play there…..thats a fact, if not please enlighten me….and if you even think about saying Biakabuttfuck you lose all credibility
CORRECTION: no matter what you say you have no credibility here, due to the fact that you root for the Urine & Blew
Kevin Grady LMAO I get better runs in my shorts than he gets got on the field
I know …. The great white hope Sam McGuffie!
I’d say tom harmon, but in this era I would have to say tyrone wheatley…chris perry even.
You mean the great white hype……sam mcguffie
I personally love this trend of Miiiiiiiiiiichigan fans on our sites because they hate their own…..classic
rumor has it that McGuffie is abandoning ship too. Not a happy family
RitaRod gave out lapdances the week of THE GAME and everyone is now defecting……with a burning case of herpes and a pinch of trichomaniasis…..see scUM fans…your not the only ones that know big words LOL
I LOVE MIIIIIIIIIIIIICHIGAN WEEK!
Palm Beach, that was yesterday’s news (literally). McGuffie has since returned from Texas and will be in Columbus for the game. As of now his status is up in the air, but he is probable to play tomorrow.
if he is such a great coach, why are all these great players jumping off the ship… and thanks for Justin Boren
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/83407-michigan-mcexodus-sam-mcguffie-others-planning-to-transfer
No, we don’t hate our own we just have the ability to be rational and see what the real attributes of a player are. Just cause i believe mcguffie is completely and utterly over hyped doesn’t mean he can’t prove me wrong. Wouldn’t it be worse for me to come here and state that mcguffie is going to be the savior of this program, or just state the obvious that mcguffie received much if not all of his accolades from being a youtube sensation? This is college ball. The stature of these Div-1 linebackers are much different than that of some high school senior, or worse a high school junior and on down the line from there. I read much worse about Boeckman on this site and how a lot of you wanted to throw a 6 year senior, who just led you to the NC game, under the bus for a poor performance against USC.
For the record….DickRod did NOTHING before he got Pat White at WVU…..he left knowing that White would prolly go to the next level…..without Pat White DickRod is a middle of the pack coach in the Big East of all confrences……just pointing that out for the kool-aid drinkers
CORRECTION-
We DID throw Boeckman under the bus after that shitshow. He has only played in garbage time since
And TB was simply the QB in an offense dominated by the run….Beanie and our top rated D led us to the MNC game
Blue Man:
1. I 110% agree with you about McGuffie. Everyone has sung his praises this year, but he is way overrated. Sure he’s a freshman, but I just don’t see a lot of upside to him. Congrats on hurdling over inept scrawny HS DBs I guess? He’s a 3rd/4th string RB on an already ‘meh’ RB stable.
2. There’s more to Boeckman than the USC game. His last like 7 games from the USC game were enough to show me that he is not a starting QB. His PSU performance was a fluke, and he looked good against the first 5 or so cupcakes we faced last year, but he crumbles in the face of pressure. Of course, it is well documented on here that the OL is mostly at fault, so it’s not like we completely threw Boeckman under the bus… but the fact that he IS a 6th year senior yet still has a presence in the pocket like a freshman means that he shouldn’t be starting behind our porous OL.
Well spoken Flip-
You didn’t secretly go to NU with the nerds did you?
Boeckman is a 6th Year senior who stopped progressing Mid-Last year. He started to regress and the TEAM suffered for it. There were no other options as Henton lost out on his time to play because of the infamous hooker suspension, so the staff HAD to play Boeckman. Boeckman is a good guy and probably banging the shit out of Heacock’s daughter, but if OSU was going to get to the next level it had to be with Pryor. Team first, egos checked at the door…. best players play.
Hell no, OSU alum all the way.
Excellent insight buckeyeski…..From what I know about college football this year is that Pat White stayed at WVU. They were pre-seasoned ranked #8 with high hopes. They currently are ranked….hmmm oh shit they aren’t ranked. They are the same basic team as last year and were supposed to be better. Makes you kind of think about whether it was the coaching. “DickRod did NOTHING before he got Pat White at WVU…..he left knowing that White would prolly go to the next level…..without Pat White DickRod is a middle of the pack coach in the Big East of all confrence.” This is like saying Jim Tressel only was a good coach after he had Maurice Clarret, Troy Smith, Ted Ginn, aj hawk, beanie wells, and pyror (and you can name the rest better than I can) and he would be a middle of the pack coach without them. It’s about recruiting. He recruited that player and put him into his system and the rest was history from there. Come up with something logical to defend your arguments.
Good thought so Flip, just checking
PB just nailed it Blue Man…..back to AA for you
Buckeyeski I think you should go back to your duties as just saying well spoken and nice point cause your arguments can’t hold any water.
how that for logic Blue Balls!
how’s
That’s true about Boeckman and knew this all along, but I do recall, not from the guys I’m seeing here, many people trying to put boeckman as one of the top quarterbacks in the NCAA before the season started. I saw one of your fellow bloggers even comparing him to Sanchez before the USC game only to spit foul mouthed comments at him the day after. These however, I’m guessing are the irrational fans and every fan base does have them. (Not putting the smart ones on this site into that category)
How is that not logical? RR’s entire system hangs on whether he has the talent….point in case this pathetic ’season’ up in AA. Tressel has had every different kind of QB you can have in his short tenure as the CEO of the mighty Buckeyes, BUT he seems to win the B11 title year after year? Why you ask? Because he is a superior coach that adapts to his players. There is only take with DickRod no give. Tressel makes it work and we can literally have a different offensive scheme every 2-3 seasons, but we still win titles year in and year out. Get used to mediocrity because that is all you will get with DickRod at the helm. Personally, I cant wait till he is gone, so that this rivalry can mean something again…….
In the top of the NCAA in quarterbacks…got a lil ahead of myself
So what you’re saying is…..If you gave tressel the michigan clipboard right now he would be able to adapt to this Michigan team and make them big ten champs? Like I said go back to your inferior position on just commenting on others well educated thought out posts and let these other guys do the debating for you.
My arguments dont hold any water? Your right they physically cannot do that, they are simply words typed on the internet tough-guy. Speaking of holding things…..why don’t you try and get your receivers to hold on to the ball….when your leading receiver has less than 500 total yards that is PATHETIC…….why are you even here? You shoulda killed yourself after week 3
Everybody’s system relies on whether you have the talent wise guy.
Yes I do believe that if Tressel was handed the Michigan Clipboard at the beginning of this season, he would not have this kind of record…..at least in the running for the B10 title
This guy is a fucking joke…..enjoy the game tomorrow I know I will
Nice Point Ski
Here we go again…Buckeyeski can’t propose a legitimate argument so he has to revert to the elementary aspects of a debate. Taking the figure of speech of holding water and turning it into a literal definition of the word in some lame attempt to be funny “or one up me.” (I know how can I one up you do I have a scoreboard with our names on it and I put up 1 and you 0….I get it). Then he has to bring up a topic completely out of context. I’m here cause I was defending an argument about RR and I’ll say it again step down boy let the grown ups do your work.
To the dude with RR’s records: (douche man)
If Um is not in a BCS bowl by year 3 he is “hasta la vista”,
Also, I cant see how a bunch of 2 loss and almost there seasons keep his job.
Carr had a bunch of those and where is he??
Besides, RR is out of his league, flash in the pan, gimmick offenses cannot compete in a conference like the B10.
I think Bobby Bowden stood by the veer too, but he eventually had to adjust also.
One trick ponies are what they are, there to be beaten.
And what type of changes would tressel make? How would he react to the players he was given? If you want to debate something put some logic into it. Nearly any coach right now with the talent OSU has would be in the same position as Tressel. Hell I can think of a few that would probably only have one loss on their record.
I guess Im just so immature….but this coming from somebody who is on another teams site instead of his own, because they suck so bad he wanted just a taste of what its like to be a winner, talking shit and “debating”……Miiiiiiichigan must have a stellar debate team because they’re football team flat out sucks….one of the worst teams in CFB HISTORY
I have no problem being a little kid or immature or not an adult…because either way im taking your insults and putting them right next to all of the trophies
Fuck you and your team Blue Balls
How is that for adult?
Guys I’m out of Troll food……can anyone hook me up?
Yeah, he won a NC with mediocre talent.
You couldnt see any differnce in the Troy Smith offense and the Todd Suckman offense?
Do you watch football? I have my doubts.
Besides, I never said Tress is totally safe at OSU, if he doesnt start bringin home the bacon soon, he will be out on his keester also.
Changes, nearly every year its a different OSU offense. Not like some thick headed West Virginian who tries to make Nick Sheridan into Pat White.
Dude, go drink some coffee or something, then get on my level.
He has to get off his knees to get on your level iball
Fuck Michigan!!!!!
Sorry fellas, gotta get back to work, a concept blue man might want to consider instead of arguing for the worst team in the country, oh yeah, did i mention, FUCK MICHIGAN!!!!
Listening to Hang on Sloopy now. Love it, gets me pumped every time. Im watching the game at a UM fans house tomorrow. Shouldnt be bad though, he is realistic and not an asshole. always a good combo
Blue Man…
I love how arrogant Michigan fans are. They think they are so intelligent.
Well if you fanbase is so well educated and logical why is your state in freaking
shambles economically? (Michigan’s economy was garbage even before this recent economic downturn) Why does the one major city in the state, Detroit, need a government bail out? Were not talking about a business but a whole city.
Don’t you think that if your fanbase was so intelligent it would vote for politicians that had any clue as to how to lead your state?
Thats cool tho Blazers, I tried watching a game in 05 with a mixed group of tOSU and scUm and it just was not very enjoyable…even tho we won I just wanted to flip out when they scored because fingers were being pointed in my face and what not…..although after the final whistle blew they made quite the hasty exit
I have a friend who is a Michigan fan, scUM that he is, and he always tries to be cute and wear his Woodson jersey over to my house to blaze….I make him take it off and leave it in the hallway everytime and touch the NC Banner on my wall on the way out
fuck blue man. lets concentrate on the Bucks!!!!
Is Hines playing?
SKI – The UM fan will be the only one there rooting for them. I watched last years game with him too. When it comes to the NFL he is a prick, but its good banter when it comes to college. Never escalates or anything
Hines is questionable Blazers, but Moeller is more than capable of delivering the wood Saturday….those two are going to be BEASTS next year
EVERYONE IGNORE BLUE BALLS AND DO NOT RESPOND… he is prob beating off while he types his witty responses.
Do you think he jerks off with a belt around his neck? Its dangerous, but if your a Miiiiiichigan fan, dying from that is an easy way out I suppose
Ski… I think he beats off with a glove to give him the feeling that he is getting some strange… cuz I am sure that is all he is getting.
“I sit on my hand till my hand gets numb, I jerk myself off until I start to cum, I give myself a stranger, givin myself a stranger”
Love You Guys
Blue Balls
reply about my immaturity in 3……2…….1……
you are immature…. but who the hell cares. F Michigan and Go Bucks!!!!!!
touche
jason – if you get the score right are you going to award yourself the prize?
ski in reply to the economy in michigan:
http://realestate.msn.com/buying/article_forbes.aspx?cp-documentid=9579218
nevermind that was meant for shawn
ski-Just out of curiosity what trophies are you referring too? Tell me you didn’t buy yourself national runner up trophies to put in your trophy case, or did you buy big ten replica trophies for it? The fact that anyone would say Tressel’s job is not safe is idiotic. He won you all a NC, put you in the big game twice after that, but that’s unacceptable huh? The only way I see Tressel on the sidelines for the next five years is if he takes the Browns job, which he has stated it has always been his dream to coach the Browns.
“I agree Joe, but what is disturbing is the defections from inside the team that appear to be continuing after the season….. I don’t remember that with coop…. something strange going on up there…”
That’s a really good point. Coop didn’t have too many defections – at least not from what seems to be a personality conflict standpoint. These kids just don’t seem to be taking much to Rodriguez.
Once they start winning, they’ll take to him. What surprises me most about m*ch*g*n is their lack of defense. I can understand that their offense wouldn’t be much, but I thought for sure their defense would be able to carry them to 8 or so wins. I’m very surprised by that.
Nobody wants to play for a sell-out asshole, or as we so kindly refer to him, DickRod
Don’t look now gentleman, but there goes another Miiiiiichigan fan using another teams vicotory over us as their focal point of argument….if we ever reach a point as a team where we need to use the victories of other teams to berate a scUM fan….please kill me quickly……
“National Runner-Up Trophy” thats rich, when was the last time scUM even SNIFFED a NC Game? Back when ND was relevant?
I was just curious as to what trophy case you owned and what trophies you were putting my insults next to. As far as I’ve known here they won the trophies you just watched
Jim Tressel went 7-5 with a team littered with NFL prospects: Chris Gamble, Jonathan Wells, Michael Jenkins, Matt Wilhelm, Tim Anderson, Darrion Scott, Will Smith, Mike Doss, Shane Olivea, Lecharles Bentley, Kenny Peterson.
For Michigan, Steve Schilling and Greg Mathews might get drafted on offense. One of the upperclassmen RBs (Grady, Brown, Minor) might be taken in a later round. Big maybe.
On defense, Brandon Graham and Donovan Warren are the only ones who look like next-level guys right now.
Tressel’s 2001 team was probably 2-3 times as talented as this Michigan team is. Had Tressel inherited a similar team in 2001, I don’t think he would have done any better than 5-7.
Either way they are still proudly on display at the W.H.A.C. regardless of whether I played or watched…..
These scUM fans are so literal and analytical huh? I guess thats all they have to hang their hats on…seeing as how their once proud program is now a fucking punchline
I wish that I could somehow find the time and energy to visit Miiiiiiiiiiichigan sites and talk about how good we are, and how much they suck, but I really cant even consider that…..its a given
This troll needs to get back to his bridge….the game is starting soon and he doesnt wanna miss any of the tear inducing moments from kickoff to final whistle……
I too think RichRod may end up being Michigan’s Cooper. In that he’ll have a lot of great teams, a lot of top notch recruits, but he won’t appreciate the rivalry and will have a horrid record against OSU for that reason (much like Cooper at OSU, where he felt the game against Michigan was simply another game on the schedule).
I base this off of WVa’s performances against Pitt in the backyard brawl with RR as the coach (4-3 against Pitt, despite his teams being 60-26 during his tenure while Pitt was 48-37 over this same span); and he played at WVa which makes this quite surprising.
Blue Man and other scUM fans can continue to ignore this, but I would be quite concerned with RR’s ability to appreciate what is required to win a rivalry game consistently (particularly one of this magnitude).
Pogue, I’ve heard this talk out of you before and to say that Tressel’s first Buckeye team is 2 or 3 times better than this Michigan team is laughable.
This Michigan team is certainly lousy, but 2-3 times worse? Please.
Saban, Carroll, Meyer, etc. all would be close to .500 with this team. I know it’s fashionable to to be a modest Buckeye fan and show some humility these days, but c’mon.
Jason, name one guy on this Michigan team (including the highly-touted freshman) who is going in the first round.
Name one upperclassmen who you think has even a chance of going in the first four rounds on offense.
Zoltan Mesko! pwnt. or punt.
you mean that Brandon Minor is not a first round pick?? Who Knew??
What’s weird is that Henne, Hart, and company ran a spread-option type offense against Florida, and absolutely waxed them. They weren’t built for that type of attack, yet they carried it out exceptionally well.
So, wtf? Why is Rodriguez so lame? If he’s able to get top talent, it will be dangerous. They have the Michigan name, the Michigan facilities, the national exposure – that stuff isn’t gone just yet. So it’ll be able to stay afloat for a while with recruits. They still have the alumni base that wants top talent. If RRod can’t deliver in 3 to 4 years, he’ll be out – that’s the way of things in college football.
But this season was dismal. It’s an emarrassment to the conference, and an embarrassment to the Rivalry. So, screw him for sucking. I hope he gets pounded into oblivion for such a disgrace.
No, the UM gameplan for Florida was more akin to Texas Tech than West Virginia. There is no freaking “read-option” with Chad freaking Henne in the backfield.
Not weird, Steve. Pretty simple, actually.
Henne > Sheridan
Hart > Minor
Manningham > Odoms
etc.
etc.
etc.
Not to mention RichRod’s spread offense is completely run-based while I’m assuming with confidence that whatever spread-option they ran in the bowl game was focused on passing.
To Recap this whole thread:
Blue Balls = Still has Hart’s cum on his beard
BuckeyeSki = F.B.I. (funny, but immature)
DickRod = Sellout, asshole, bad coach, not gonna get it done
THE GAME = Best Rivalry in sports, bar none
Ann Arbor = Still a whore
Henne > Sheridan
Hart > Minor
Manningham > Odoms
…and even they couldnt get it done against the Bucks, so this team has NO CHANCE
Pogue, Boren was looking like he’d be a first day draft pick. Oops.
I’m not saying this Michigan team is stacked, but it’s not like Lloyd left the cupboard bare. A big reason why none of the upperclassmen are going to go high is because of the lack of success they’ve had on the field under Rodriguez this season. Morgan Trent is a perfect example.
Again, two to three times worse is laughable.
oh yeah and FUCK MIIIIIIIIICHIGAN, even tho I truly love the entire week leading up to those assholes
Ok Steve,
#1 Michigan ran some spread formations against Florida and you are wondering why that worked then but can’t now. Hmmmmmmmm interesting question, but I believe the answer is pretty damn obvious, and that is the personel.
Chad Henne does not equal Nick Sheridan (a walk-on)
Brandon Minor (orwhatever back for that matter) does not equal Mike Hart
Mathews and Stonum does not equal Arrington and Manningham
The whole OL doesn’t even equal Jake Long
Yes there seems to be a lot of comparison from this year to last year. So why can’t RR win? Hmmmmmmm he must just suck.
RR is too busy directing the dumptruck to unload his money at the mansion in AA…..they paid him millions to win 3 games…..
FYI Nick Sheridan wasn’t even the top quarterback in his high school league. He was honorable mention and that’s what we are stuck with. It’s the personel not the coach
Tressel got a pay increase for winning 10-12 games a year consitantly….and he used that pay increase to fund a new library on campus and made HUGE donations to childrens hospitals, RR, when asked to give back some of his salary to help the economic situation said “Get a life” LOL
BLUEBALLS + DICKROD = ETERNAL AHOLE
That’s the problem, Lloyd DID leave the cupboard bare. He hedged his bets entirely on Ryan Mallet for two seasons, leaving bupkus behind him.
On the offensive line:
http://mgoblog.com/content/what-happened-offensive-line
On the linebackers:
http://mgoblog.com/content/what-happened-linebackers
The cupboard is barer than anyone here is willing to admit. I don’t blame them, since most Michigan fans did not think or realize the deficiences Lloyd Carr’s later recruiting classes had at key positions.
Ann Arbor News Report: Football practice in Ann Arbor was delayed on Monday for nearly two hours. One of the offensive players, while on his way to the locker room, happened to look down and notice a suspicious looking, unknown, white powdery substance on the practice field.
The head coach, Lloyd Carr, immediately suspended practice while the FBI was called in to investigate. After a complete field analysis, the FBI determined that the white substance unknown to the players was the goal line.
Practice was resumed when the FBI decided that the team would not be likely to encounter the substance again.
Oldie but goodie
Good one Ski
Sorry, I was under the impression that the 2005 class at Michigan was among the best in the nation. Wouldn’t those guys all be seniors now?
No, because, as you read, most of them either quit football or transferred, and only a few can reasonably be “blamed” on Rodriguez.
It’s funny ski how you make that elaborate joke about michigan finding the goaline when in three games this year your own team has failed to accomplish this task. Good post tho…..funny as usual
Are you kidding Pogue? Rodriguez has ties to Al Qaida as far as I’m concerned LOL
Yea but we still find a way to win those games WITHOUT even scoring a TD…. a bit embarrasing yes, but nonetheless something meatchicken couldnt even dream of
yes, I guess going 1-2 in games where you didn’t score a touchdown is a solid record. Do you ever think before you post, or talk for that matter.
Here’s the funny thing: we can’t blame any of our offensive struggles on adapting to a new offense or anything like that. We’ve been running same ol’ same ol’ for 8 years, and we still can’t do it all that well unless a team gifts us the game with turnovers.
It might be early, but Rich Rod see to me like the “Bad Hire” you mentioned.
At a program like Michigan you are paid to WIN, not to overhaul a system.
I think he’s lost the respect of many Michigan fans, and players, because he basically surrendered an entire year to intstitue the offense he is comfortable coaching… Why not coach to the Tallents of the players on your team right now? If he kept Ryan Mallet there and used an offense more familiar to his O linemen, Michigan would be playing in at least the Motor City or Alamo Bowl.-As the season went on he might have been able to start employing the packages which will eventually take over in the next few years.
Instead, Rich Rod surrendered an entire season, gave up victories, to employ his own system, rather than playing to win with the guys who committed to the program before he did. He left his graduating seniors in the dust, and suffered the worst season in Michigan history embarrasing the fans, and diminishing the greatest Rivalry in sports, a tradition which he clearly doesn’t respect or undarstand.
This fact will not change if his system eventually becomes successfull.
Pogue your making me wanna “get a life” man LOL
After every post pogue makes I wanna put a sound effect that goes “wahhh wahhhhh wahhhhhhhhh” like the Debbie Downer skits on SNL
Your the man tho dude, way to keep us homers in check
But we can blame it on ‘Coach’ Bollman!
“Chad Henne does not equal Nick Sheridan (a walk-on)
Brandon Minor (orwhatever back for that matter) does not equal Mike Hart
Mathews and Stonum does not equal Arrington and Manningham
The whole OL doesn’t even equal Jake Long”
——-
Sure they do!
None of them have ever defeated The Ohio State University!
Does Bollman actually do anything aside from grow a mustache? Does he hire women to feed Rehring and Co donuts and fan them with palm tree leaves?
Bollman slurps up gravy boats like nobodys business…you should see him go man!
Extra Credit to Jeff from BBC…..ZING!
Here’s the funny thing: we can’t blame any of our offensive struggles on adapting to a new offense or anything like that.
It is not a new system, but I seem to remember OSU changing their QB, center and RB early this season, that would be some what changing your system.
Now before you jump all over me with your response Pogue, I know where you are coming from, but your constant negativity and pessimism of late has become irritating.
Look at this Michigan fan talking smack when they lose 9 games in a season…cool!
I wish my blog was this popular…….
Wells-
If Pogue wants to listen to Emo music thats his choice
Jeff, I check that shit out EVERYDAY….but nobody responds when I write funny stuff…..my Mike Barwis needs to stop feeding the kids Chocolate Milk and Roid smoothies comment would killed on here!
Steve,
Yes, he could’ve catered to the talent, well lack of talent, he had coming into the season and sacrifice his system in order to go to the Motor city Bowl. Is that really an accomplishment though? He implemented his system to get ready for the future. Sheridan taking snaps under center would not have made a big difference, and Mallet was an obnoxious punk who was ran out of Michigan. As for the seniors, who you say were left in the dust, it is not about them. It’s about the program. No single class is above the future of the program. You witnessed this same type of thinking with the emergence of pryor as your starter. For all you RR haters who keep complaining about how RR has diminished the importance of this game, I urge you to go read the four paragraph statements he made instead of just reading the headlines some weasel reporter posted to incite rage in order to gain more readers. Who here actually read the four paragraph statement? I bet most just read it in the columbus dispatch or the toledo blade or on espn. He understands the rivalry. What do you want him to do hold a press conference or just stand atop of Michigan stadium and Yell, “I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS GAME.”
The offense didn’t look particularly good when the original starting QB, center and RB were in either. Remember five field goals against Youngstown State?
Look, I’m a pessimist, this I understand. I don’t delude myself like other pessimists into thinking I’m a “realist”. I have lowered expectations because every time I’ve had high expectations in the past 5 seasons, they have been dashed with stunning consistency by this team. I want them more than anything to be good, to be dominant, to be housing fools in their bowl games like USC does. But we are so far from USC, Florida, et al. that it’s almost no longer funny, and that disparity is widening. It’d be nice if Buckeye fans started to admit it.
I would rather shoot myself than listen to emo music.
And before you jump on me, I don’t want undefeated seasons and nothing less. I just want to be competitive with the best when we have the talent to be.
ok Blue.. I read those 4 paragraphs…. it started Once upon a time………
As Dick Rod said “GET A LIFE BLUEBALLS”
Good answer Pogue…emo sucks more than Blue Balls
I actually did read the 4 paragraphs….it was all filler
Can Dick Rod even put 4 cohesive paragraphs together??
11W!
Where Trolls and Buckeyes can come together………..
I have to agree with pogue for the most part.
But I have a little more faith in the Buckeyes.
Faith in them to do what? I think they’ll beat Michigan, who doesn’t?
Win the bowl game? Not against an SEC team.
Yeah I agree with that part. But at the very least I hold out hope every time we come into a game overmatched.
I read this somewhere:
The good thing about being a pessimist is that you’re always either proven right or pleasantly surprised.
Words to live by, eh?
Eh? Are you Canadian Pogue? That would explain the pessimism….nobody from canada is happy LOL
Damn, this has been like a 3 day argument. Let him rationalize shit in his head, who cares?
Cant wait to wake up and watch buckeye youtubes. my personal favorite is Cie Grant singing Carmen Ohio
Thats funny Blazers…I cant wait to wake up and start drinking…again!
I love lamp.
“Cant wait to wake up and watch buckeye youtubes. my personal favorite is Cie Grant singing Carmen Ohio”
Here you go….this is my collection of my videos….
http://www.youtube.com/user/jeffseemann
And a favorite to watch while fighting the TTUN trolls is this one, called “Everybody Hurts”…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30cf_Sxt4HQ
Enjoy!
“I stand firm in the belief that good coaches do not go .250, regardless of team, era or any other circumstances.”
it’s funny you say that, since Tressel went 2-9 in his first season at youngstown state
Pogue,
I am not one to jump all over people for their response, everyone is allowed to have their opinion. I too have had to lower expectations after the last four big games, but I still like to mostly focus on the positive aspects about this program, while remaining realistic. 111 programs and their fans would love to switch places with OSU, whether they want to admit it or not. To constantly complain about an 82% winning margin, five BCS games and five conference titles, IMO, makes us look like chumps. It is not pretty to watch at times and the Bucks have fallen flat when it counted most, but one can’t argue the overall accomplishments since Tressel rolled into town. I guess I just remember how bad it got for Buckeye fans around this time of year in the 1990’s and it makes me appreciate everything that has been done since 2001.
I enjoy your passion for the Bucks and I’m sure the cats that run this site appreciate your support, but it is not all negative, all the time… and RichRod sucks as a coach and will be canned by the end of next year.
Hear Hear!
Im out boys…ENJOY THE GAME TOMORROW & FUCK MIIIIIICHIGAN!!!!
If Rich Rodriguez doesn’t last at Michigan, I will be shocked, because it’ll be the first time ever in history a great coach and a great program couldn’t get it going when combined.
I should just stop reading comments, pogue makes me want to shoot myself.
Your up the balls of an Big East coach, supporting him on Michigan week?
“Chris Gamble, Jonathan Wells, Michael Jenkins, Matt Wilhelm, Tim Anderson, Darrion Scott, Will Smith, Mike Doss, Shane Olivea, Lecharles Bentley, Kenny Peterson”
This is your list from earlier, can you imagine if we didn’t go 7-5, would this still be a team of NFL drafts? Your basing your argument on something that is entirely subjective. Senator adapts to his players to make them better. If he only recruited players that fit his ideal system, no one here would be watching LiC every saturday….
If pogue is the face of tOSU fan base, we are f’d.
My prediction was 34-21, with Michigan getting a worthless TD in the waning seconds. I still think that’ll happen…BUT I HOPE OSU BEATS THEM 75-0!!!!!!!!!!!
GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEAT MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry if this was rehashed earlier, but I’ve never seen anything like the civil war that is going on between Michigan fans. Pro Dick Rod and Anti Dick Rod and Pro They-Suck and Anti They-Suck and the epic flame wars that make us all look like best friends in comparison to how vehemently they attack one another.
Let’s pray we never fall as far as they have. Oh, but how the mighty have fallen. In years past Michigan fans would have scoffed that the rivalry meant anything much more than just another game where Michigan would dominate an inferior opponent.; after all, they owned Cooper, etc. Even when we were dominated by Michigan, we never made any pretense that the rivalry didn’t matter; and even when we now dominate them, we still collectively get up for every Michigan game, regardless of our current streak against them.
Many Michigan fans mock our argument that Rich-Rod doesn’t “get” the rivalry. I’d argue that many michigan fans–not all fans, maybe not even a majority, but many–many michigan fans don’t grasp the import of the rivalry at all.
On the receiving end of 6 of the last 7, 4 in a row, about to be 5 in a row; I’d say that subset of Michigan fans is beginning to learn.
Everyone wants to talk bad about the OSU vs.U of M game this year and its really getting on my nerves. As a diehard Buckeye fan all i really have to say is suck it up. When college football 1st started Michigan was the cream of the crop destroying everyone or atleast winning 90% of there games every year. Then came the small school from just 4 hours south of Ann Arbor the Buckeyes. Ohio State took some ass beatings along the way and some years managed to beat Michigan. Then comes the Coaches Woody and Bo. They in my eyes made this game the way it is now (a battle)year in and year out. Now Michigan fans say oh wait 3 years then come see us. I really dont care if its next year or even Sat. Nov 22nd 2008 our OSU team will walk into the SHOE or the BIG HOUSE and put a size 12 shoe (pryor size i think) up ur asses. If you beat us 4 or 5 years from now oh well. We can be 0-11 coming into the Michigan game and when we beat you, in my mind the OSU season is a success. Enough of me ranting about it im out. GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!
All-time Series:
U-M leads, 57-41-6
All-time Series:
U-M leads, 57-41-6
All-time Series:
U-M leads, 57-41-6
All-time Series:
U-M leads, 57-41-6
All-time Series:
U-M leads, 57-41-6
Yes, nice living in the past Truth, but let’s introduce a variable–the introduction of the forward pass, among other ‘modern’ football inventions.
If you deduct UM’s 13-0-2 advantage in the first 15 games of the series, the Wolverines have just a 44-41-4 edge.
And, over the last 50 years, Ohio State now owns a 25-23-2 edge.
PS you guys are going to get so hosed tomorrow.
Truth:
Be sure to correct the all-time series to 42 losses on Sunday. Or you could do it now and get it over with. :-)
Cincibuc, you probably should off yourself, because the collective IQ of our fanbase will shoot up probably five or six points seconds after.
“This is your list from earlier, can you imagine if we didn’t go 7-5, would this still be a team of NFL drafts?”
Um, yes? Scouts don’t care about the W-L record of your team when evaluating your talent, unless you’re a particularly bad QB who was responsible for most of those losses.
“Your basing your argument on something that is entirely subjective.”
No, the difference in talent is objective fact, actually. Unless these Michigan juniors are worldbeaters next year, but do you see that happening?
“Senator adapts to his players to make them better.”
No, “Senator” runs the offense he wants to run, and occasionally utilizes the talents of his scramblers with read-option and rollouts. We’re still a cro-mag, three yards and a cloud of dust offense for the most part.
“If he only recruited players that fit his ideal system, no one here would be watching LiC every saturday….”
You’re saying LiC doesn’t fit the system? I disagree. Any type QB works in Tressel’s system because the QB doesn’t do the heavy lifting in Tressel’s system; it’s all on the offensive line and running backs.
BTW, I WOULD kick Rita Rod out of bed…….onto the floor where there is more room. Safari gear or no. She aint too bad, but kind of looks like Hillary Clinton with long hair and safari gear.
On second thought…
Hahahaha
That loser who calls himself blueman, is th same tard who goes by the alias buckstache.
Never mind his fool. He is out of work in that horrible rundown hopeless city known as Detroit. Soon enough, he will be sucking dick for gas money.
Meatchickens suck and Dick Rod will not make it past three years in Ann Arbor.
No way, the meatchickens win more than 4 games next year. And the year after that… unlikely they win more than 5 or 6.
On top of that suckitude… they will continue to lose to OHIO STATE!
Hahahahahahaha
Keep Dick Rod, he will keep the Meatchickens in mediocrity!
GO BUCKS!!!