And here I thought Terrelle Pryor hasn't been on the team for a few years.......
Nothing against Braxton, but I'm taking TP here. Didnt he play the entire Rose Bowl Win over Oregon with a torn MCL/PCL/ACL? Also:
This makes me happy and sad at the same time. DX
I just noticed Roby(25) in the background. lol
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It will be interesting to see how much the ill feelings towards TP have cooled over time.
Love brax, but I give TP the slight edge. TP has won more conference championships and bowl games, even if he sells the awards after the game. Although in brax's defense, the fallout from TP is probably one of the big reasons we didn't get to stomp all over notre dame and win another National championship.
My memory of TP isn't all that clear but I remember him making more bad decisions than Braxton. Don't get me wrong, he bailed us out quite a bit, but I feel like he made more poor decisions with the ball. Also remember how many 3 and outs we had with TP. The role that offensive style played in that is open for debate. I know for a fact our defense was much better then.
You almost have to give TP the athletic edge here - a true "freak" athlete here, really... I remember all those times he broke off a run and it looked like he was jogging, but he was still one of the fastest guys on the field. Then he'd throw that killer stiff arm and just flatten some dude en route to a first down or huge gain.
On the other hand, you almost have to give Braxton the leadership/cerebral edge, as he seems to be a much more "thoughtful" quarterback, not prone to the sort of mental mistakes Brandon mentioned. He may not run the option as well as Guiton did, but there are none of the off-the-field concerns to deal with, as was clearly the case with Pryor.
A study in contrasts for sure... Like many of us, I'd sure love to have seen what Pryor would do in a Meyer/Herman offense :)
If we get Torrence Gibson, we might get a pretty good idea someday.....keeping my fingers crossed.
Edit: Also, in the "Freak" department, Miller has some pretty freakish moves of his own. Whereas Pryor had the size, speed and the stiff arm, Miller will straight up juke you out of your jockstrap....I think he throws a better ball too.
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I can't argue with anything you just said. Today's poll was a much better set of choices than the time DJ asked if we'd rather have Bert Bielema or Tom Crean as a head coach at Ohio State.
Don't forget to add durability to Pryor's freak list.
TP under Urban and Herman would have been terrifying. Terrelle was/is a freak of nature his athletic ability was monsterous. It just didn't seem like he progressed enough. I also think he wasn't the smartest QB we've ever had. I voted for Braxton, he seems to have more of the mental aspect down, along with awesome athletics.
This would be a run away if the choices included Troy Smith.
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Miller all day long and 10 times more on Saturaday. TP had a good defense to bail him out of his multitude of bad decisions. TP was solid but Miller is a better Qb all around and I think we will see his full potential come this fall.
TP was solid
A guy that had 3526 total yards in a season(an Ohio State record) was just "solid"? That's hilarious.
Not to mention Pryor had way worse of offensive coaches.
Terrelle Pryor in this offense? Love Braxton, but Pryor would be almost unstoppable with Urban.
Take personalities out of it, and I take TP. I'd love to have Braxton in the backfield as his running mate, though. But I'd select anyone but Belisari or Bauserman to throw a forward pass over Brax. TP will finish the game too
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I can't even even joke about Bauserman throwing better passes than Brax. Kid was god awful, Brax was better at throwing as a freshman than Bauserbomb was his senior year.
Surprised by the poll results...I guess you don't trust TP to stay out of trouble or something? He was obviously a superior player on the field.
Are we talking about senior year TP? If yes, then TP.
I'm taking TP in a second. TP put up very similar numbers compared to Braxton and look who was running the show for both players...TP with a Bollman offense and Braxton with Urban... no comparison on coaches. Urban's coaching towards Braxton's strengths. Could you imagine TP in Urban's offense? He would easily surpass Braxton's stats.
If we're talking strictly passing mechanics and ability, I'd go Braxton, but only because Pryor never had a real QB coach ever.
Braxton's never thrown for 250 yards in a game. Pryor was a much better passer despite the stats looking similar.
Yes he has. He threw for 252(didn't play in the 4th) against Penn State. He was at 233 when Urban sat him the entire 2nd half against Purdue.
Pryor also didn't have Meyer's power run game. Tressel let TP throw more often than Braxton does.
For me it's TP and it's not even close. TP was playing with a pop warner offense and was still dominant. Maybe we can revisit this if Braxton can ever win a bowl game.
Nothing against TP, but he came into Columbus with expectations. All credit to him going 31-4.
But I'm voting for the reigning 2x B1G POY, and I can't say I even knew his name before BAUSERBOMBS.
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, but he came into Columbus with expectations.
As did Braxton.
I think TP was screwed out of one B-PoTY, but whatever. I'll take his RB, and SB MVPs.
In my head, I remember TP being the worse passer and a less complete quarterback. It could be the fog of memory, but I remember a lot more passes thrown in the dirt to wide open guys or thrown way over their heads.
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I voted TP .....wished there was a Troy Smith option
Ohio State would score 100ppg. XD
Braxton is clearly the option. If TP were playing then we wouldn't be able to go to a bowl game.
I voted TP, if you put that freak of nature into Urban's offense he wins the Heisman and a title.
Under Urban? How can you not pick Pryor. He was a freak athlete, i mean look what he did in tressel's offense. Braxton might be better at making the quick cut but TP just had that breakout speed and he was 6'6" if i remember correctly. Thats a big dude to bring down at that speed. And i think Urban and Herman would have done a great job developing his pass game. The only difference between TP and Cam Newton in 2010 was style of offense.
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Breakout speed? That's Braxton's game. TP was deceivingly fast but could be caught from behind more easily. He was as quick but couldn't juke as well as Brax. He could stiffarm with the best of them and was tougher though. Two different styles I think but TP would do as well as Braxton in this offense.
This is a no brainer IMO… Pryor. Braxton Miller, despite what we hear from Meyer and Herman, is an athlete playing quarterback. Pryor, while also an athlete playing QB, was a more polished passer (and that's saying something), every bit the the athlete that Miller is, far bigger and significantly more durable. In addition, Pryor won big games. The bigger the game, the bigger he played. Rose Bowl MVP, Sugar Bowl MVP, 3-0 v TTUN and the games were blowouts. For me, this isn't even close… but the debate is what makes this site fun.
I'd take TP over Braxton because TP was leader something Braxton doesn't seem to comfortable in being.. Plus TP was a winner and tough while Braxton is soft. TP got better every year he played and Braxton has plateaued ...
Love them both. Give TP the edge for mental and physical toughness. He wanted the ball. Braxton is tired of being hit.
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