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Will Deshaun Thomas be named an All-American this season?

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Conroy's picture

He should easily average 20+ points on a team that will float between ten and twenty for most of the year.  Combine that with playing on a team with as much media exposure as Ohio State and you have an easy All American with a solid shot at the first team.

gwalther's picture

In addition to the 20+ and playing on a good team, he'll also grab 7-8 boards a game.
 
Dude is a Top 10 NBA draft pick.

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rgarrett22's picture

I always figured he was a lock for a lottery pick if he came out after his Junior year.

Maybe not?

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013

http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

These mocks have him in the 39-42 range (2nd rd pick). I don't always put a lot of stock in nbadraft.net's mocks, but draftexpress is typically viewed as a reputable website.

gwalther's picture

I am downright shocked by these mock drafts. CBS also has him at 37.
I can only assume one of three things:
1. These guys haven't watched him play. Some of the players they have ahead of DT are not good.
2. They're factoring in the general dumbness of most NBA GMs.
3. I'm the dumbass, and haven't seen enough of Archie Goodwin, Tony Mitchell, Michael Carter-Williams, BJ Young, etc.

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rgarrett22's picture

I have been starting to think about this possibility...

I always figured he was a lock to leave for the NBA after this year. However, if these mocks are truly indicative of his current NBA stock, then perhaps he sticks around and plays all 4 years at tOSU?

Maybe the chances of that happening are greater than I once thought.

I'd be all for a year where we don't lose anyone (unless you think Ravenel would be a big loss; I do not) and bring back a very experienced and loaded Bucks team in 2013-2014!

gwalther's picture

Deshaun coming back for his senior year is a pipedream. I maintain that these mock drafts are wrong regarding Deshaun, and he will shortly move into the first round in all of them.
DT will benefit greatly for the rest of his playing days (life) from the maturing process he's underwent, and continues to undergo, here at OSU. He's particularly fortunate he has a guy like Aaron Craft to help him along in that process.

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rgarrett22's picture

So even if he is a late 1st rd pick (picks 25-30), you think there is no chance at all that he would want to return and play his SR year at tOSU and continue to improve his draft prospects?

I could certainly understand if someone said that his draft prospects aren't likely to improve any with one more year in school.

rdubs's picture

I love the guy, but he isn't a top 10 pick.  He is a great shooter, but doesn't create enough for himself or others.  He isn't a good enough ball handler or post guy to augment his shooting.    If he was a bit more athletic maybe, but I just don't think he will go that high.  He'll be drafted, but I highly doubt he will be in the top 10.

gwalther's picture

Completely fair comment. However not having him in the first round is ridiculous to me. He brings too much versatility on the offensive end, and rebounds extremely well for his size.

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okiebuck's picture

If he's not a first team AA that means Stevie Wonder is the head of the voting commmittee!

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

Buckeye in Illini country's picture

He should, but I don't think he will.  Too much of a "tweener".  Too small for power forward.  Not quick enough (esp. on D) for small forward.

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rdubs's picture

I think you are right to a degree, but Matta's offense exacerbates this because we only have one post player most of the time.  He essentially gets used the same way that Diebler was used, but he should be given more chances to play in the post off of Ravenel or Amir.  At 6'7" he should be able to get inside a lot more and when he does post up it seems to work a lot of the time in my memory.  

OldColumbusTown's picture

Deshaun is definitely not a top 10 draft pick, IMO.
Look, we love the guy.  We love watching him play and appreciate all he does for this Buckeye team.  He's a genuine scorer, and finds ways to get the ball in the basket.  There's something about him where he just seems to have a knack for finding the ball, whether that be on loose balls, rebounds, tip-ins, etc.
However, the fact remains he's a mostly one-dimensional player, and is a "tweener" by NBA standards.  He's undersized to play PF, as he'd get absolutely eaten alive on the defensive end.  He has a pretty decent post-up game, and I think he'd actually fair decently well on the offensive side if matched up with a PF because of his ability to shoot from the outside.  Opposing teams would recognize that, though, which is why it also would be tough for him to excel at the SF position.  He doesn't have the ball-handling ability or quicks to get by other NBA small forwards.
Essentially, I think Deshaun is looking at being a mostly spot-up shooter off the bench for a good NBA team.  He could have a larger role on a bad squad, but there is a reason why teams are bad in the NBA...

OldColumbusTown's picture

To answer the original poll question, though, there is no doubt he's an All-American this year.  He may end up 2nd team, but I don't see how he falls below that.
SI just put out a midseason All-American team and he was not included in any of the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd teams.  That is ludicrous.  However, after glancing over all their picks, the only one I could definitively say Thomas was absolutely more deserving than was Seth Curry, on the 3rd team.
Deshaun will continue to score, but he's also got to continue leading this team to wins.  A 20 ppg scorer on a team that wins 22-23 games isn't that impressive when matched up against other guys around the country.
Here is SI's list:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130111/midseason-all-americans/?sct=hp_t13_a9&eref=sihp

Nick's picture

He can be a first round draft pick it just depends on how the year ends and his workouts. He will be fine at SF in the NBA. He is the same size as Paul Pierce and has the same penchant for scoring in fact Paul Pierce is perfect example of what Thomas could be if he reaches his potential. 
FYI Pierce and Thomas have the same numbers as juniors, with Thomas getting almost 2 more rebounds per game
 
Snippet from a '98 draft preview

(Pierce) Has improved on ball-handling since freshman season, but still needs a lot of work to play sm. forward at next level.  Rebounds and block shots well when needed.  At times, looked bored in college. Played for a tremendous coach at Kansas, (Roy Williams) who also helped groom the likes of Jordan, Worthy, and Dougherty as an assistant at UNC. He's a very polished performer who understands fundamentals are more productive than 360 dunks

Edit: Would be sweet if Boston drafts him. Sully and Thomas back together

rgarrett22's picture

Other than both of them having a knack for filling it up at the offensive end, I don't see any comparison to Paul Pierce and I don't think DT's ceiling is remotely close to Paul Pierce who is a sure bet for the HOF when he retires someday. DT would be lucky to ever make an NBA All Star Team.