There's going to be some learning curves and slip ups along the way, but with all the experience and talent returning 10-2 11-1 is very possible.
Weak schedule helps a lot, but I see a loss at MSU, loss at Wisky. It's too bad we don't get MSU later in the season once our offense has better gelled. And Danny O'Brien will likely be rolling with Montee Ball by the time we meet them. 10-2.
I'm a bit more optimistic. The Big 10 sucks folks, I mean really sucks. MSU's offense will be mediocre, Wisconsin's defense will be subpar as well. The only team that will have the horses to run with us will be Michigan. I voted 12-0, mainly because of how weak the B1G is. I can certainly see slip ups with a young team implementing a new offense, so 10-2 and 11-1 are also pretty probable in my mind. But seriously folks, what games scare you? At MSU, at Wisky? MSU will have a very good defense but who's going to replace Cousins, Cunningham and company? Wisconsin's offense won't be the same without Russel Wilson, Danny O'Brien is nowhere near the same level as Wilson, and their defense is barely special by any means.
I see 11-1 as a the most realistic. There is going to be a game that goes down to the wire somewhere along the way. Not worried about MSU as we basically own their stadium
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If Wisconsin is a night game that worries me a lil bit, but like William said their defense is not anything to write home about. However, I do think they are special...in a short bus kinda way. DEAL WITH IT
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12-0, AP decalres us National Champs, ESPiN's collective heads explode.
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I voted 10-2 mostly to be realistic. The Offense may take a little time to gel, and we tend to struggle a bit at Wisconsin and Penn State.
i think 10-2 sounds about right. regardless of strength of schedule, only a team or two per year is undefeated by the end of the season. it takes a lot to stay sharp and prepared every week in different atmospheres. and that's without any new starters or scheme changes. there will likely be stumbling points along the way, but i'm very encouraged we will rightly be in the undefeated talk next year (when it will actually count for something).
as far as losses go, i don't think msu will be as big a pushover as people think. their defense is MUCH better than any in the big 10, and it's not like andrew maxwell is a wide eyed freshman. he has been groomed for several years to take over for cousins. not that there won't be a difference in their play level. having deanthony arnett from tennessee helps maxwell out a lot too, and leveon bell is a tough runner. they will still be good.
wisconsin will still be good too (although will likely still have a defense that falls apart at key moments of the game), and michigan, as william said, will be tough.
you can trash them all you want, but just repeating over and over again how much they suck makes you sound stupid. they're a team on the way back up. expecting unbalanced teams with pathetic defenses is a thing of the past. and saying things like "the seniors would never go out with a loss to scUM like that" or "urban will have his players treat this like a bowl game" don't mean much, because NOBODY as a senior prepares to lose to their rival, and no teams headed to bowl games prepare for them to get shown up.
in the next 2-4 years, this rivalry will reestablish itself (due to michigan pulling their weight) as the premier rivalry in all of college sports
13-0 We get extra credit for hanging 70 on scUM.
I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.
a win at home in the shoe? definitely possible. likely even. but come on, completely ridiculous predictions make us all look stupid
But you're responding to a post that was obviously sarcastic.
my fault, i didnt answer dead seriously and from a non-bias and purely factual standpoint. I forgot, only analytical, paragraph long answers are allowed.
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Ya, I'm thinking 10-2 for a lack of continuity more than anything else. I think talent wise OSU still swings the big stick in the conference but the right system can bog OSU down for 4 quarters en route to an ugly and boring defeat. Meyer and Co's staff won't really let the mental lapse\lack of intensity losses happen so I don't see any Purdue Harbor type losses on the horizon. I do think they will smack their fair share of opponents around, hang on to win an ugly one or two and probably find themselves on the end of at least one head scratcher that leaves Meyer enraged at his team's performance. With an offense like this you can (CAN, not WILL) see the occasional busted play especially on the zone reads and I can see a game where a few untimely turnovers put the stout Buckeye D in bad spots. I'm thinking somewhere in that schedule is that weird 4 turnover, 14-10 loss to an Illinois or Sparty or something. If the offense gets itself together in the VERY easy four weeks prior to B1G play, I like our chances of running free until Michigan. I still think that game is a toss up but I'm high on the Wolverines this year. A few weeks next year can change my mind but they are not a bad team and they are one that can hand Meyer's guys an L in the Shoe. Not saying it will happen but I won't be shocked if it does.
Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.
Boy, people really aren't listening to Urban when he says we have a long way to go. 8-4, 10-2 if everything breaks right.
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Meyer is going to be that way no matter who he has on his roster and how they are doing. Mark my words, at some point in his tenure he will be upset with how OSU plays in a blow out win.
But this is one instance where I don't think he's trying to use it as a motivational tool. Right now, this team has no proven receivers and, in Meyer's own words, no offensive tackles. This is a transition year for this offense, and I don't think it's going to be particularly pretty until later in the season.
Exactly... I can't believe how optimistic folks are. We have to learn a completely new offensive system and lost our spectacular defensive coordinator who's owned the past decade (and taught our dline how to play). 10 and 2 has been the most realistic prediction throughout the stable years of the Tressel era. Unforutnately this is not a stable year... we've got a lot of learning to do.
Heacock wasn't ever a spectacular defensive coordinator in my mind. His soft zone got us shredded by Florida, LSU and USC on two occasions. It did however work against Oregon. Heacock was a very good D-line coach though.
His defenses got really fat (or skinny, I suppose) against some really bad offensive teams. OSU always got exposed against the truly good offenses. I never got that vibe with Dantonio lead defenses.
Always got exposed... you mean like against Oregon and Arkansas?
Aside from last year, I can count the bad defensive games under Heacock on one hand.
I voted 10-2, and the optimism comes from the schedule. MSU has a new QB and new receivers and their running game last year sucked. Their defense should be good, but losing Worthy in the middle could hurt. Wiscy has a new QB and an almost entirely new coaching staff, only returning 11 starters off the team that couldn't beat us last year. PSU has McGroin as their starting QB a new coach and only a combined 7 returning starters on O and D. The two teams with the most coming back from last year --Neb and mich-- were both near misses on the road last year and are both coming to the Shoe this year. Those are the best teams in the B10 and there goes your optimism.
Cal, Michigan State, Nebraska, Penn State, Michigan Wisconsin, Illinois and Purdue are all losable games, if you know what I mean. We lost 3 of 5 starters on the O-line that was average @ best. OSU's linebacking corps were the weakest it's been in a decade. OSU has alot of work ahead for itself. I wouldn't be suprised at 8-4. Hope for better, but realized that there is alot of improving to be done at key positions.
Miami, UAB, Indiana, Purdue
UCF, Cal, Ill
MSU, Neb, PSU, Wiscy, mich
There isn't a single game on our schedule that we "should" lose, meaning a game where we are a clear underdog. However, there are enough coin flip games that it's bound to come up on the L side at least a couple times.
I see what you did there.
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I wouldn't be surprised at 8-4. As a matter of fact, if we go 8-4 and beat scUM, I'll be satisfied. I think this season should and most likely will be used as a learning curve. We can afford to make mistakes in order to learn more. Look out for 2013 though!
8-3, 10-2, 9-3. Those are Urban Meyer's 1st season records at BG, Utah, and UF respectively. He hasn't lost 4 games in his 1st season anywhere. Why assume he does so at OSU?
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I voted 10-2 and that's about as optimistic as I can realistically get. The Big Ten is terrible, making me think they're going to win more than 8 games. But there are a lot of distractions, too. Apparently, there is an ESPN article talking about OSU's chances at going 12-0, but you have to pay extra to see it.
Heart says 10-2. Brain says 9-3 (or worse).
Offensive line and receiving corps are a skeleton crew. Defense on the other hand might be really, really good.