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If you had to pick one of the four plans being considered by the BCS, which one would you choose?

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buckeyedude's picture

I prefer a +1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1...

format.

 

 

BucksfanXC's picture

Triple Semi-Final Bonaza sounds awesome and all, and it's clear the most B1G! choice. But still, i'm thinking home game semis would be pretty much awesome. Just the thought is giving me a semi.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

buckeyedude's picture

What?! "Triple Semi-Final Bonaza??" That sounds soooo ridiculous!

Now if you said, Triple Semi-Final Bonaza-palooza....?

Now that's a totally diferent story.

 

 

awwwwwwop's picture

I like home games because it keeps the meaning in the regular season.  You would still work your ass off to get into the top 2 just like you did before.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

Urban Nation's picture

I would love to see a SEC team or Pac -12 team play in Columbus in December or January.

It's good to be home.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Half our players will be from the southeast now. Not to sound like a jerk. The SEC fans would freeze though.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

William's picture

I don't know what information that is available from which you can make that claim. Look at this year's class: 5 players from Ohio, one from New Jersey, and one from Missouri. No players from the Southeast. Unless you're being hyperbolic, your claim has no base. 

buckeyedude's picture

You sound like a jerk.

 

 

Bucks's picture

Surprised to see any votes on leaving the BCS alone. I just wonder if that is due to genuinely liking the BCS as is or disliking other options listed. Certainly respect the opinion though.

 

NW Buckeye's picture

Although I did not vote that way, I am not surprised at all to see votes to leave the BCS alone.  Engaging on the slippery slope of playoffs is not as simple as many make it out to be.  The Plus One format is winning over the obstinate purists, but the fear of expanding playoffs further still has quite a few fans and people in charge concerned.  If you don't think that threat is real, simply refer to Buckeydude's comment above or Mike Leach's views on playoffs.  For what it is worth, I really don't like any format that will diminish the importance of the regular season.  The options on the table now do not threaten that, but any expansion of these proposals does.  It is easy for people to take a look at that and just dig in their heels and keep the BCS in tact.  So I don't think it is so much generally liking the BCS, it is just that they really are opposed to any system that would turn into the fiasco of the March madness we have in basketball. 

The only reason I voted for the semifinals at home sites is because of what happened in the BCS this year.  We had a non conference champion involved in the CG.  That diminished the importance of the regular season.  So as far as I am concerned, the BCS has already taken a step on that slippery slope. 

FLBuckeye's picture

I'm really not sure why people always bring up the debate that it diminishes the regular season. EVERY LEVEL OF FOOTBALL HAS A PLAYOFF!!!! Sorry for the caps but that's what makes leaving the BCS alone so perplexing to me. The regular season would be diminished only slightly and I think that's needed, because right now 1 crazy loss can make or break the chance for a national championship (Ok State). 

BED's picture

Exactly.  The argument that you don't play for seeding/conf champ/etc. is just bogus.  People need to stop harping on it.

Also the "Rose Bowl" plan is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever read.  Who voted for that tripe?

And we need to limit the 4 team playoffs to ONLY CONFERENCE CHAMPS.  Otherwise, enjoy playing home games at LSU/Alabama/Florida/etc due to SEC-fanboy voters.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Only conference champs is sooooo important. Look no further than the final BCS rankins. Those voters with Pac-12 and SEC ties voted Oklahoma State 4th or even 5th and put Stanford (and Oregon) ahead of Oklahoma State. If you include a "conference champ" rule, it neutralizes that, so there's not as much conference/regional bias. Not only that, if you make it only the Top 4 teams, you'll have the 5th team complaining. But if you make it the four highest ranked conference champs, then the 5th highest conference champ - in most years - is at least 2-4 spots lower than the 4th highest, so they would rrely get "shafted".

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

No other level of football has a regualar season as exciting and meaningful as College Football. I love watching a dozen good college games on saturday compared to a few decent NFL games and a crappy sunday or monday night matchup. With a plus 1 model Okie State would have gotten their shot, and they should have. Their coach is a man- he's 40!

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Northbrook's picture

I prefer things revert to the Bowl tie-ins pre BCS. I do not mind the ambiguity of not having a BCS Champion and letting different polls pick their own champ.

Alex Root's picture

I like the Plus one format, I just like the bowl games, I think if you get away from bowl games it will not be as good for me. They need to figure a better way to make the BCS games better right now, no more Uconn getting in. So I would just like 2 BCS games having the #1v#4 then #2v#3 the winners of those games goes on to the Plus one game for the national title. Also with everyone having championship games now for conferences I would be for only conference champions being able to be in the plus 1 format. Sure Alabama won last year, but they had their shot before that I think another team should get that shot. But I do like the BCS games so I hope they keep them if they can fix how the teams are picked for it.

RedStorm45's picture

I haven't had a chance to read all the options...what happens to the semi-final losers?

awwwwwwop's picture

Hunger Games.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

Seabass1974's picture

Losers go home. This was their bowl game.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

NC_Buckeye's picture

I have a theory that the whole "B1G/Pac-12 Triple Semifinal" is a Delany/Scott smokescreen to get the SEC to sign off on the "conference champions only" rule.

Talk to any SEC-fan. They are not onboard with that at all and fully believe the SEC should have at least two teams in the playoff every year.

Brilliant bastard that he is... I wouldn't put it past Delany to put the Triple Semifinal out there so cfb writers and the SEC contingency can get worked up about squashing that instead.

BED's picture

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I like where your head's at NC.  Let's hope that's the only reason that abomination of a plan exists.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

buckeyedude's picture

Crazy like a Fox....

Hungry like a Wolf....

 

 

BED's picture

+10000

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

yrro's picture

Yrro's absolutely perfect solution.

Highest 4 ranked conference winners (none of this lose your division, go to the title game nonsense) play the week after the conference championship games, higher seed gets a home game.

After those games are decided, everyone gets their standard BCS/bowl trip matchups, winners of play in go to national championship game. 

BED's picture

If we're not doing 16 teams (all conf. champs + 5 at large), then this is the next best solution.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

hodge's picture

In terms of BCS plausability, I really dig this.  I also dig the idea of a 6 team playoff with byes for 1 and 2 seeds, where conference champs in the top 10-12 get berths, then at-large bids fill out the rest field (if necessary).

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

I'm glad to see the plan I've so vocally advocated for a long time is gaining support :-)

Honestly, I've gamed this out so many times. A semi-final of the four highest ranked conference champs is the only solution that will protect the importance of the regular season (even making it more important in some manners) as well as preserve the bowls.

You may not like the bowls, but I do. Their may be too many of them, but I like when a 5-loss Purdue or Northwestern team still plays tough in November because they still believe they have something to play for. Get rid of the bowls, and we'll see those 4-5 loss teams pulling a Kevin Wilson every year (sitting their upperclassmen and playing freshman and sophomores to get them experience).

BED's picture

You just treat the bowls like the NIT.  Consolation prize for non-playoff teams.  Even in the 16-team playoff I advocate for, I still see the bowls sticking around.  They are a magical thing, and give extra meaning to games late in the season.  I guess that's why I never buy the "playoffs lessen the season" meme.  I still see bowls co-existing.

But yes, Humble, you've convinced more than one doubter about the conf. champ rule.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

painterlad's picture

I have the perfect solution for a playoff that satisfies everyone but it takes too long to explain. Maybe I will blog it soon.

To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.

Seabass1974's picture

BCS conference champions and + 2 non AQ. Higher seeds get home games, play it out. I really want to see these fair weather teams come north in December and January.

 

All other teams get to go to bowl games.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

I'd settle for a few more bowl games outdoors in the midwest. Make the almighty SEC play at soldier field, or in Cleveland.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Anything more than a plus one system will dilute the meaning of regular season games. College Football has the best regular season in all of sports! Why mess with it? If you make a playoff with more than 8 teams the controversy in the seeding will create more BS than the whole playoff arguement ever did.  Plus one make the most sense. If you have 2 clear cut undefeated teams, don't have a plus one.

I'd hate so see College football changed too dramatically. Think of some of the years we would have had a shot at the title in past seasons. Imagine getting a crack at Tenessee or FSU in 98 or Texas or USC in 05.  Also the mess in 04 would have played out nicely, giving Auburn a shot at USC or Oklahoma.

I think if you went any bigger than 4 teams it would water down the playoff. I think it would be exciting to watch, but I don't think if a 2 loss team won an 8 team playoff people would think hands down they're the best.  But 4 teams playing for the right to the title, takes the elite teams in the nation, not just conference winners, and I think you'd get a better feeling about who the champion really is. Just my opinion of course. 

My fear is that a full blown playoff, will make our regular season feel like the NFL.  When we rest starters for the playoff, I'd become depressed. Every game should matter.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

BED's picture

You still would play for seeding.  A 2 loss team won't be a 1 seed, and if you bench your starters, you'll lose.  Especially since rivalry games are in the last week or two of the season for most teams.  Wins against them matter more to fans, and the coaches know that.  Just ask John Cooper.

As I said above, if you keep the bowls as consolation prize, all games matter, even if you buy the line that a playoff makes them not matter (which I clearly don't).

And to say that a team who won it all ON THE FIELD isn't the best team in the country is just crazy.  You beat the 1 or 2 seed in a title game as an 8 seed, you deserve the title.  Simple as that.  The computers/SEC voters/etc. can't swing the games in their favor that way.

And the conf. champ rule is necessary, otherwise prepare for a playoff consisting of Arkansas, LSU, Alabama, and Florida some year. (SEC! SEC! SEC! lol)

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

buckeyedude's picture

Why can't we have the playoffs first, and the regular season afterwards? This would also preserve the integrity of the regular season. No?