Football Recruiting: The Latest on Gibson, Hilliard, and Crawford

By Jeremy Birmingham on May 25, 2014 at 12:00p
Justin Hilliard is the Ohio State love.
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Before I dive into a pressing recruiting stories, I'd be remiss if I didn't make some mention of the Memorial Day weekend. I hope that everyone is enjoying the long weekend — the unofficial start of summer — but my greater hope is that you take a moment to sincerely thank the men and women you know who have donned the stars and bars on a military uniform. Without their willingness to sacrifice their lives for our way of life, I'd certainly not be here writing about something like recruiting. I'd not be here talking football, which is, in some way, meaningless in the big picture of life, although it's a welcomed escape from the daily grind we all fight through. I know it's cliché, but those men and women are true heroes and deserve our utmost respect. They fight a battle far greater than anything we can imagine, and it's unfortunately a battle that doesn't stop for many, even after their tours abroad are over. 

If you, or anyone you love, suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, get help and realize that asking for help isn't a sign of weakness, but strength. Everyone — even the true heroes — needs a little help, a little support, and an ear or a shoulder sometimes. After all those men and women do for us, it's the least we can do in return.


It's been a pretty eventful couple days in the realm of Buckeye recruiting, so let's get back on track and recap a few of the more important stories. 

HILLIARD TOP FIVE, BUCKEYES MOVING ON UP

On Friday morning, Cincinnati St. Xavier linebacker Justin Hilliard named his top five schools and shared with a few thoughts on each of his remaining candidates with us. 

Aside from the releasing of his top schools, it was also disclosed that Hilliard had moved up his decision date and would now select a school prior to — or near to — the start of his senior season. These announcements come on the heels of Hilliard's recent visit to Columbus, where he hung out with Raekwon McMillan and spent some more quality time with the Ohio State coaching staff. More importantly than his time with McMillan might be the reports that Hilliard's mother came away from the visit impressed with Urban Meyer's plans for her son as a football player and as a student-athlete. 

On Friday, I stated I believed this will eventually come down to Ohio State and Alabama, despite Hilliard's comfort and connections to his other three finalists. I know all the reasons he could choose Notre Dame, Iowa, or Michigan; but to me this feels like a classic Urban Meyer versus Nick Saban stand-off. Hilliard will visit Ohio State again next weekend and it's another opportunity for the Buckeyes to make their pitch to the Cincinnati star. 

CRAWFORD OPENS THINGS BACK UP

As has been speculated recently, Lakewood St. Edward defensive back Shaun Crawford has officially re-opened his recruitment and rescinded his commitment to Michigan. The country's ninth-ranked cornerback, Crawford has recently visited Notre Dame and will be making a trip to Columbus next weekend to give Ohio State another look. 

The Buckeyes offered Crawford — who grew up a big-time Michigan fan — last fall but it appeared nothing would come of it as the St. Ed's star reaffirmed his commitment to the Maize and Blue over and over, but time and change led to a different outcome this spring. Crawford, Kentucky tailback Damien Harris and Florida speedster George Campbell have all taken back their Michigan commitment since January and uncertainty about Brady Hoke's future has been a common theme. 

Right now, Notre Dame appears to be the favorite to land Crawford, but Ohio State will work very hard to not let this second chance go to waste. Big, big weekend upcoming.

TORRANCE GIBSON SITUATION

Towards the end of the week, it was reported that Torrance Gibson had been suspended from his high school and (at least temporarily) removed from his American Heritage football team. The nation's top-ranked athlete, it was reported, had been suspended because of altercation with a teacher, but that report was refuted immediately. What has not been refuted is that Gibson is in fact suspended and his future with his state champion AH team is in doubt. While there's no doubt he'll land on his feet because of his immense ability, this issue is apparently causing a few teams to back away a bit from his recruitment. 

Ohio State — for what it's worth — isn't backing away, but they're certainly paying a bit more attention to things that are off-the-field related. 

Gibson is an incredibly talented kid, but he's also got a mega-spotlight on him day in and day out, and that's a big burden for a high school kid to carry, even if he brings on much of it himself. I've talked to Torrance, and my advice to him was simple: shrink your circle, get back to the basics and focus on improving yourself on the field, off the field and drown out the rest of the background noise. Don't allow the drama to become the show. He does have a number of great people around him, so I'm confident the course will be corrected. 

As for his recruitment, I still believe once Gibson gets to Ohio State this summer, they'll become the leader to land his commitment. Getting out of Florida will be a good thing for him.

TIGHT END SITUATION

Chris Clark is fading away from Ohio State it appears. I expect him to ultimately land at Michigan, despite some reports that he may try and make another visit to Columbus before his announcement at The Opening. Don't count on it. This is just a situation where a player is more comfortable elsewhere and although Ohio State isn't going to give up on him — because he's really good — it's probably not going to happen.

So, does that mean Hale Hentges is more likely a Buckeye? No, I don't think so, despite the widely-held belief that Ohio State would have to land one of the two. I think that Ohio State, and Missouri, will both be left holding the bag and Hentges will end up elsewhere. Right now, my gut tells me Florida State is the dark-horse.

So where do the Buckeyes go? Great question. Miles Boykin, more of a wide receiver prospect, was offered by the Buckeyes and that offer might be the primary reason that  C.J. Conrad decided he wasn't going to camp to earn a Buckeye offer. He's since committed to Kentucky. Could Jake Pickard be a possibility or do the Buckeyes try and smooth things over with Conrad? It's bound to be an interesting few weeks.

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WesPatterson23's picture

Torrance tweeted he will be releasing his top 7. He didn't say when he will though.

SilverState's picture

Saying they'll be in order too fwiw:

Managing the hype as a teen has to be challenging, but it seems like its starting to really affect his career. Hopefully those close to him help him shut it down. (Limiting, or temporarily abstaining, from social media would probably not be a bad idea, until he can manage it better.) Hype feeds the ego, and "pride comes before the fall." 

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BuckRock's picture

I have said it four times now, what happened last year with the losses to MSU and Clemson!  I told my friends after the Clemson game this is going to hurt us tremendously in this year's recruitment, all my friends laughed.,  Who's laughing now!  If you win a bunch of lousy games that is nothing and menaingless, if the games that you need to win to show HONOR ;you lose, that creates huge problems!  Until we win some big games and strut our stuff like we have some!  We are not going to win many kids this way to 614.  Truth hurts sometimes, what you do with it is what matters most!

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jaxbuckeye's picture

I do not think that word means what you think it means...

What the hell are you talking about?  Honor?  What does honor have to do with winning games against better competition?  What a bizarre statement. 

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bucksk1n's picture

I think kids care more about the depth chart than they do losing a meaningless game against Clemson.  It is still early in the recruiting process and I'm sure we will be fine.  Even if the unthinkable happens and we end up with a class ranked 20th (the horror!), the reason will have nothing to do with HONOR.

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blocko330's picture

Bama lost two straight games they were favored in as well - Last I checked they're doing alright in recruiting this year.

“Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle.”

- TruthTeller

Aesculus.'s picture

Why is Saban the only one smiling?  

11/8/2014 @Michigan State aka Payback

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Killer nuts's picture

Wonderful bit of showing appreciation for Memorial Day and those in the military. It really does keep things in perspective. A sincere and huge thanks to all of those who have served

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sivaDavis's picture

Great piece. I'm in Urbana, Ohio right now camping with a couple buddies that are veterans and some currently serving. It's great to get out and just relax and appreciate all we have. 

 

On a football note, our TE recruiting is a tad laughable. At least the past couple years. 

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

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SilverState's picture

If you're in Urbana, make sure to swing by Crabill's (awesome burgers) and Shuler's Bakery (chocolate-creme filled donuts). You won't regret it. 

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Burnsy's picture

You could possibly be camping where the great Simon Kenton once roamed. Check out "The Frontiersmen" book by Alan Eckert. Not sure if I spelled his name correctly, but it's a fine piece of literature not enough Ohioans  know about.

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Jugdish's picture

I have read it twice. It is just amazing to me the life of the 18th century.

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

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Burnsy's picture

Amen Jugdish. Those men who settled the Ohio river valley were some amazing folks. Maybe instead of the circle drill Meyer should get the team lined up like the Shawnee used to do and make the players run the gauntlet! 

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Blackbeards Delight's picture

Ahh Urbana. Home of the Hillclimbers, Blue  Knights, Buckeyeman (I know WTF), and has been proven scientifically to be the true center of the Universe. Don't sleep on Mad River trout fishing.

Crunchy Peanut Butter Bitches.

- Me

 

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sivaDavis's picture

And home of the Little Giants!! Wait no that was Urbania, Ohio. Damn. 

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

buckeyedude's picture

I assume that is who the town of Kenton, Ohio was named after?

 

 

Findog5's picture

That was a great book. Highly recommend.  

NCFinn

bucksk1n's picture

One of my favorite books.  Its narrative is a little too fiction based at times but once you realize the author's storytelling method, the book is impossible to put down.  I like to bike down route 68 (Simon Kenton Highway) as it takes you along the same paths settlers like Kenton used from his home in Kentucky to his eventual settlement (and final resting place) in Ohio.

Eckert also wrote another book about Western Pennsylvania and Eastern Ohio called 'The Dark and Bloody River'.  Both should be required reading in all Ohio schools to give kids a sense of the history that surrounds them.  The only issue is both are over 600 pages and beyond what can be expected as few kids read books that long (unless it has a wizard or vampire in it).

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weimerad's picture

So much for getting a top TE. First Clark was saying and tweeting all the right things after he decommited from UNC, that he wanted to play with Burrell. Then everyone was saying that OSU was the leader for Hentges. 

This is turning out to be a joke

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Ahh Saturday's picture

Buckeyes are thin at TE, and when the '15 class comes in we will only have two scholarship players at the position, Senior Vannett and Baugh --an unproven Sophomore who has been in and out of the doghouse.  If the Buckeyes strike out on both Clark and Hentges, I don't think there's anyway around admitting that the staff bungled the CJ Conrad situation.

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xrox's picture

Stars and bars? You support the confederacy?

Seriously though, I'm actually planning on visiting Camp Chase this weekend. I've never been there, even though it's just across town.

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Norwalk's picture

Amercia has adopted the Stars and Bars as their official flag.

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LouGroza's picture

Will be announcing tonight apparently. Alabama is saying he is theirs on 247 boards if that means anything.

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Jugdish's picture

I believe you are right on this one...dammit!

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

I would not expect the Buckeyes to be the pick for Hentges, as I said in the content of the story. Bama and FSU - who I have picked - seem to be gaining a lot of traction. Missouri had one last shot this week to keep him in state and I don't think that will happen.

weimerad's picture

So Birm how the hell did OSU fall behind after being the team to beat only a few weeks ago? Let me guess Saban promised him a new sports car right? And what about Jackson Harris being a Bama lean? Where does he go now?

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Ahh Saturday's picture

So Birm --taking a break from the unpleasant topic of losing a prized recruit to Alabama-- with the impressive visitor list for next weekend, what are the chances we land a much needed commitment?  Burrell, maybe?

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skid21's picture

No commits for the good guys with commitments elsewhere. Even those as strong OSU leans are not a comfort these days. This might be a really long summer. I guess I will have to spend more time in the pool and less time on commitment watch. Oh well, life is still good. Sounds like we might beat out Purdue for a 3* TE commit.

allinosu's picture

Evidently Hiliards family had such a good visit at ND that they have their foot in Justin's back to go there even though he is torn,

OSU069's picture

where did u read that?

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allinosu's picture

I looked on sites of other schools because I'm not sure if we aren't just wishing. That came from an article in the Cinn area and also a Michigan site saying he is ND's. His family had a wonderful  visit that blew them away and they want him to have a ND diploma. Also we seem to be the only ones thinking we have a valid chance with Gibson. 

OSU069's picture

Ya we are the only ones who think we have a chance with Gibson..... along with the 30 or so recruiting experts who have Gibson crystal balled To OSU

allinosu's picture

You do know that most of recruiting is speculation, even with the experts. Birm often says his " gut feeling" and I appreciate his candor. He is privy to more info than us so he has a better picture. I was looking at a bunch of sites for any info I could find and most thought Gibson was big to Tenn and they were not Tennessee sites. I was not saying I thought he was not ours to get but we were not even in the picture much other than here.

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ronbizi's picture

Not to be the grammar police, but since you made the same mistake twice, its "sites" not "sights".

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allinosu's picture

Thanks, I take short cuts in my notes and carry them over on occasion. I usually do it with nite.

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allinosu's picture

I know hat doesn't make sense but I over correct and screw it up when I have a deep thought.

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OSU069's picture

Ya but if so many other people who follow recruiting very closely "speculate" that Gibson will come to OSU, then there is probably something there. Just wait until he visits and I'm pretty sure we will be close to or as high as Tennessee. 

sarasotabcg's picture

Allinosu, If you've been doing all sorts of research like you claim, then you'd know Gibson gets excited about whatever school he's visited most recently.

 

The only constant has been OSU, despite the fact that he hasn't visited yet.

Who knows if we get him or not, but I encourage you to pay closer attention.

 

 

 

Groveport Heisman's picture

If this is true I will be  highly disappointed. Tired of losing these top  notch GCL kids to ND. This is one of the best areas for HS football in the State but it seems we are always playing catch up. Hilliard is the real deal and would be a huge loss after all the time we have put in and all the visits he has made up to Columbus. I still believe we land him but I know his parents are huge on academics and such. Reason why I think Bama stands zero chance when factored in with distance.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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allinosu's picture

It does SEEM Justin is leaning our way against his family. We will see.

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Katzfan's picture

Kinda reminds me of the Jaylon Smith situation.  Apparently ND has a coach on their staff that is known for putting LB's in the show???  I don't remember where I read that at and if I am wrong, then somebody please feel free to correct me.  ND is prestigious in a lot of ways and it's hard for me to be upset when we lose out on a recruit to them.  Rather lose out to them than scum...

"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got nine guys who better go do it again. Do it a little harder next time." -- Urban Frank Meyer  -- I LOVE THIS DUDE!! :)

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buckeyedude's picture

ND is prestigious in a lot of ways and it's hard for me to be upset when we lose out on a recruit to them.  Rather lose out to them than scum...

 

This sums up my thoughts precisely, Katzfan.

 

 

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Jeremy Birmingham's picture

Just wanted to explain my recent prediction of Hentges to FSU...which I have now changed to Bama.

I had heard FSU and Bama for a while as the biggest "surprises" here, and I picked FSU on a whim because Hentges was very interested in how each of his school choices utilized the TE position; since FSU does a better job of that than Bama, that's why I went that way.

Lesson: never doubt Nick Saban and what he's capable of.

skid21's picture

Lesson: never doubt Nick Saban and what he's capable of.

Considering we are still going head to head with him for a few recruits that isn't good news. WTH is going on with us losing recruits left and right? I know it is only May but the losses just keep on coming. Can Urban really compete with Saban?

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ronbizi's picture

Can Urban really compete with Saban?

 

Yes

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osubuckeye4life's picture

Exactly Von Bell and I believe Raekwon Mckmillan were heavily recruited by Bama.

motobuckeye's picture

The more our targets pick other schools the more it seems like something is amiss.  Obviously no school will ever get all their top targets, but it's almost June and we've missed on many guys the coaches were going hard after...just a feeling I've had.

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Great information and an even better opening two paragraphs, very well put.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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CincyBuckeye31's picture

I'd like to contribute the slow start to the fact that the last few classes have been loaded with talent and kids want early playing time but if that were the case Alabama wouldn't do what they do.  It's been a tough off season so far in terms of recruiting but it can only get better.  Glass half full kind of stuff.

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2002osubuck's picture

I just wish we would offer some of the Ohio guys that are top 250 talent like CJ Conrad. Look at Butt for scUM, he's already making huge plays and we didn't offer him either. Hopefully weve almost made up ground and will get the jump on the top talent in the state and Midwest for future classes.

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Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

I think a lot of people are starting to realize the staff has botched some TE recruiting over the past 2 years. Hopefully they change their approach. 

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BKshepherd's picture

~~Look at Butt for scUM

Now there is a string of words you wouldn't want to use out of context....... 

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Poison nuts's picture

They blew it with Conrad - just saying. A solid TE is a necessity for 2015. Also, something is strange with OSU recruiting right now & even though there are 40 articles on this site that say nothing's wrong - I don't buy it. It's not that I think that Ohio State won't get a good class, I always believe they will - but something is just off right now. Sometimes I wonder about OSU having to walk the straight & narrow after Tat-Gate in an age where everyone is clamoring that schools should pay kids to play. Seems the NCAA has not looked into many allegations at all lately due to their immense unpopularity. I don't know - I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but something is different than in years past & it's not just fewer good Ohio kids in 2015...

Edit: to anyone who took these words as negative - they are not. I do think the staff waited too long on Conrad, but I don't think they've done anything wrong aside from that - nor do I think OSU will have a bad class. What I was wondering is in a time when everyone & their brother wants to pay players & I happen to believe some people are... OSU cannot even begin to think about breaking recruiting rules. I simply happen to think that people are offering up money to some of these kids (a la the bagman story) & the NCAA is nowhere to be found due to their hugely unpopular status right now. Therefore, I believe people are skirting the rules & OSU is missing out on kids not because Urban Meyer is being out-recruited, but because (in some, not all cases) it's more lucrative to go elsewhere. I find it hard to believe that this staff could be having this hard a time getting a kids to commit...but I'm not worried nor am I attempting to be negative.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

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weimerad's picture

Yeah Birm - what Saban is capable of.....as in bribing kids with cash or cars. Bama doesn't utilize the TE position more/better than OSU. That's a bunch of bull shit if you ask me

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cdub4's picture

Hope this is sarcasm. Give credit where credit is due.

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Hovenaut's picture

Still a Buckeye fan here. Hang in there, I believe we'll be ok.

I am not the Last Dragon, therefore I do not possess the power of the Glow.

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skid21's picture

We're all still Buckeye fans. That isn't the point.

Hovenaut's picture

So I suppose the point is that the staff isn't getting it done then?

Yeah, its slow. Very slow. A less than stellar start and the program has whiffed on needed targets.

Still a ways away before signing day. This program is still in pretty decent shape. I can vividly remember feeling quite the opposite about three years ago. There's plenty to look forward too...maybe that's just me though.

Come on.

I am not the Last Dragon, therefore I do not possess the power of the Glow.

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skid21's picture

Not trying to be a downer but if you aren't paying attention to what is happening NOW then I would have to say you're too much of a homer. Yes, we all know it is May (almost June) but the fact that we are losing recruits left and right should not be ignored. We could, and probably will, end up with a top class, but there is plenty of reason for people to be critical of recruiting losses at this point. Lots of talk about how we lead with recruits but no commits. Of course people are going to be critical.

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Hovenaut's picture

I get the criticism clearly, not the dismissiveness.
If that makes me a homer, so be it.

Doesn't change the fact we're rooting for a strong football program led by people who understand the processes involved far better than you or I ever will. It's not hopeless here.

There are others who may have it better right here and now, along with many more who have it worse, than our beloved Buckeyes.

We're all entitled to our own...and you get the point. Also not dv'ing you Skid.

I am not the Last Dragon, therefore I do not possess the power of the Glow.

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skid21's picture

Love how everyone is concerned with who DV's them. Anyway, my point is we DO have a reason to talk about the fact we haven't had commits and we have lost commits to other schools. Can we do that without being DVed and labeled as non fans?

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ronbizi's picture

You think we'll probably have a top class, yet say there's plenty of reason to be critical?  You'll have that opportunity to be critical after signing day Feb 2015.  Otherwise, the main evidence I see to base judgement is two top 5 classes, some of the best rated in school history.  We're not shooting for a top 15 class, we want the best.  It does suck that we've missed on numerous targets so far, but most of us have faith.  I am an OSU homer.  But that doesn't mean my optimism in our recruiting efforts is biased.  I've seen what UFM has done, everywhere.  We're good.

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JDunc686's picture

I will admit that it seems odd only having 2 commits right now, and several factors could be at play as to why.  I believe that it seems like we are missing out on top recruits left and right because we are near the top of so many of their final schools; just the nature of the beast with the way Urban recruits.

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skid21's picture

So the reason we have no high major recruits committed is Urban has bigger plans? Can't wait.

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Blackout1111's picture

This will be an awesome class full of *** recruits 

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gbdawg's picture

Why don't we wait to panic after signing day in Feb.

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Eph97's picture

Can't lie, i'm jealous of Alabama's recruiting success. When Urban was hired, I thought we'd be the ones signing the types of classes Alabama has done the last few years or the types of classes USC signed in the 2000's. Yes, I know multiple top 3 classes have been signed, but even Urban said he was disappointed they were not #1 classes.

 

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Patriot4098's picture

The stars, bars, AND stripes! I am partial, since I fall in the stripes category. Heh

"Evil shenanigans!"     - Mac

bleedscarlet's picture

I think zero commits so far this year can only be by design. It's Ohio State, if Meyer wanted to be in the mix of the recruiting class rankings, they would be. Gibson seems to be the big fish but he's a QB, so he gets the non committable offer until he comes up and camps (something saban has said he'll be doing also). Since there hasn't been any commits since Dean last year, I'm thinking Meyer has revved up the conditional offers to include everyone, which is why OSU makes a lot of top 5 lists. This would help explain PSU filling a class before OSU even bothers to get off the ground, just different stages of the game ( OSU cupboards are already stocked and can now be more selective ). Probably why Edwards went with AU, Malzahn's offer either wasn't conditional or Edwards wasn't told that it was and Meyer seems to be OK with that. Maybe it'll backfire, but when it comes to recruiting, I wouldn't bet against UFM... no way, no how...

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

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sivaDavis's picture

...I STRONGLY believe that Gibson's offer is committable. Are you serious? If he wanted in, Urban would do so in a heartbeat. 

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

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bleedscarlet's picture

~~... Early next month will be a particularly big evaluation period for quarterback prospects, whose offers are not committable until Saban sees them work in person in Tuscaloosa.

"It is our philosophy at certain positions that we really like to learn a lot about players and one of the best ways to learn about a player is when they come and visit you, because you're limited in terms of the contact you can have with them off-campus," Saban said. "To get some of them to come here in the summer I think is a really big tool in evaluation as well as an opportunity to get to know guys, to see if they have the right character and attitude to fit in your program."

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/5/23/4359776/al...

If Satan is having QBs work out in person is it so hard to believe Meyer would do the same. Watson was the #1 QB in the country last year and even he had a non committable from bama. Bama missed on him and he went to Clemson but I'd take bama's crootin' over Clemson's any day. I STRONGLY believe that if recruits had committable offers we would have at least a few on board by now and NONE (this year) is just too odd to not be planned.

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

sivaDavis's picture

Yeah but it's not like Gibson is JUST a QB! Every recruiting analyst I follow on Twitter believes Gibson could be the #1 WR in the country if he were to embrace the position. Hell I forgot which site it was but they changed Gibson from a QB to ATH. 

 

So with that being said, I don't think every offer we or Saban throws out is a commitable one but if Gibson wanted to commit to Saban and Bama right now I guarantee you he would let him in without a second thought. Because he brings elite athleticism and also the friendships with plenty of other elite talents. Kirk and Harris for example. His teammate, McFadden. You don't need to have him workout for you, everyone sees his potential and every school in the nation would love a commitment from him.

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

bleedscarlet's picture

I know it's hard to wrap the mind around but this is the way recruiting is trending, especially at the big time recruiting schools. Seems much more likely, to me, that OSU has a bunch of non committable offers out there than it's become some sort of pariah that can't nail down a commit.

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

actionstanleyjackson's picture

Certainly a bit frustrating to see so many guys many thought OSU had a real real shot go elsewhere....

I have no idea where they go with TE recruiting. Seems the Conrad bridge was nuked. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

buckeyeradar's picture

Thanks Birm for the start of your article.  Since I was drafted and served in an unpopular war I haven't gotten any respect for my service.  Today I remembered some of my fallen schoolmates, friends and comrades and think how unimportant football can be but we served so that football is important.  God bless you.

Buckeye in Texas

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Jeremy Birmingham's picture

Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for your service.

zebiraross's picture

It's simple- if we have stellar season and make it to the playoffs and possibly to a NC game we will be fine. If we don't then this year's class is going to be down. Good thing is we have the talent to make a run over the next 3 years, which we will and recruiting will pick back up. The last 2 games of the year absolutely killed our recruiting momentum.

Zeb

allinosu's picture

I really think our defense makes a giant leap this year and progresses as the year goes on which makes us a complete dominate team which changes our situation considerably on the recruiting front. At that point it might take a few flips to put us back near the top but it could happen. I also think recruits watched Kenny G sit after he was so productive early. Gotta wonder if a few recruits should have seen the field especially as bad as the defense was. Mitchell is a good example. If we bitched about it recruits had to see it too. You have to believe Penn St as well as some other schools are pointing this out and there is no denying it.

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CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

Great info Birm.  Love getting the updates to start off the week.

Go Bucks!

wyatt's picture

Hentges is going to Alabama. He is their 16th verbal. Saban is winning recruitment battles.   http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/1098412...