Keep Calm and Trust Urban Meyer or How 2015 Might Finish, Part One

By Jeremy Birmingham on May 6, 2014 at 3:00p
103 Comments

We're a couple hours away from a SARS-level panic from sweeping over Ohio State fans on Twitter, message boards and anywhere else football recruiting is discussed. We're three-plus hours away from Penn State and first-year head coach James Franklin adding two more four-star commitments, both of whom were big targets for the Buckeyes. Brandon Wimbush, the nation's 5th-rated quarterback and offensive lineman Sterling Jenkins will become Penn State's 14th and 15th commitments for 2015.

Yes, James Franklin is proving his assertion that he'd "dominate the region" ring true. Now, here comes the tough part to digest: as a Buckeye fan you should be glad, yes glad, that Penn State is having this success. The stronger the Big Ten, the better for Ohio State, and Urban Meyer and his coaching staff will finish with a Top 5-10 recruiting class for 2015. Believing anything different is borderline lunacy. Meyer's history, his recruiting moxie and his unrelenting drive for perfection should quell any doubts you may have.

If anything, Meyer, who maybe has been too "comfortable" at Ohio State may be getting — and subsequently sending to his assistants — a bit of a wake-up call. As a psychologist disguised as a football coach, Meyer likes to create discomfort for his staff and players, to test them and push them to the limits of what they can achieve. He's getting his wish right now and I'd not bet against him. 

In an effort to calm some nerves, let's take a renewed look at how 2015 could shape up for the Buckeyes, starting this week with the offensive side of the ball. We'll start at quarterback.

Somewhat related note: I've seen a number of people on this site, Twitter, everywhere talking about how Ohio State "slow played" Wimbush, and that's just not true. Sometimes, you just get beat.

QUARTERBACK 

With Wimbush off the list tonight, and Lorenzo Nunez off the list (later this week), Ohio State will have an interesting decision to make. Do they go all-in on Torrance Gibson and choose to not offer any other signal callers at this point? Gibson, who put the Buckeyes fourth on his Top 15 list (released yesterday) has been an important target for months and will visit Ohio State this summer for the first time. 

Beyond Gibson, I believe Ohio State will make a decision to offer either California's Travis Waller or Indianapolis' Tommy Stevens. Buckeyes' quarterback coach Tom Herman will visit Waller next week and he'll also get back to check on Stevens in the near future. 

Prediction: Ohio State will land one quarterback in 2015, a number that has dropped recently due to the increased confidence in Cardale Jones, J.T. Barrett and Stephen Collier. When it comes to Urban Meyer, just call me a Monkee 'cause I'm a believer: Ohio State will land Torrance Gibson.

RUNNING BACK

The tailback position is another that I believe is undergoing a change, numbers-wise. Early in the recruiting cycle I thought we'd see two for 2015, but Curtis Samuel's emergence as a legitimate running back option gives Ohio State some flexibility. The university of Miami secured two commitments this spring from Buckeye targets, Dexter Williams and Jordan Cronkrite, but Ohio State continues to pursue their biggest fish: Damien Harris, Jacques Patrick, Mike Weber and L.J. Scott

I think, as it sits, Ohio State is in the best position with the best player on that list in Damien Harris. The Buckeyes will need to fight off Alabama, Kentucky and yes, Michigan, in order to land the nation's top-ranked running back, and this is another case where Urban Meyer is fully in charge.

Prediction: It will be a fight to the end, but I think the Buckeyes nab Damien Harris from Kentucky although it's likely Ohio State will have a 2016 running back (George Hill) committed before they get one in 2015. 

WIDE RECEIVER/TIGHT END

I know there's some debate as to the future of Eric Glover-Williams, but I'm operating under the pretense that EGW is still a member of Ohio State's 2015 class. I am not, however, operating under the pretense that he'll be on offense. I think the Canton McKinley product will start at defensive back for the Buckeyes which gives me three players at wide receiver to fill in.

There are the regular names we hear: Christian Kirk, Van Jefferson, George Campbell, Devante Peete, Damarkus Lodge etc. all still out there. Ohio State is in great shape for Kirk, who named them one of his two favorites (along with Texas A&M), and Jefferson. They'd love to get closer to Campbell but the Florida standout hasn't yet made an effort to get back north for a visit. Yesterday we featured another possibility in Houston's Kemah Siverand, and Missouri's Alex Ofodile and Texas rising-star JF Thomas are definitely in the mix. Lakewood (Ohio) St. Edward's Alex Stump committed this past weekend to Kentucky, and I think he was only one solid camp day away from a Buckeye offer. Optimism is high for Jefferson but Ohio State needs to watch out for a potential "push" by LSU and a few others, including Georgia.

At tight end, the Buckeyes are still in hot pursuit of Chris Clark, Hale Hentges, Jackson Harris, and most recently, Miles Boykin. I believe Clark, who recently visited Ohio State and Michigan, is likely leaning towards Ann Arbor so the Buckeyes may very well ramp up their recruitment of Tennessee's Harris. 

Prediction: Christian Kirk, Van Jefferson, JF Thomas and Hale Hentges.

OFFENSIVE LINE

Initially, I thought the Buckeyes could settle at three along the offensive line for 2015 but only taking one quarterback and one running back might open a spot along the line, both offensive and defensive. Operating under the pretense that four offensive lineman means Ed Warinner will another excellent haul after a terrific five man group in 2014.

Ohio State sits near the top of the list for a handful of big-time prospects including Ohio's James Daniels, Virginia stars Austin Clark and Matthew Burrell, Maryland standouts Pat Allen and Isaiah Prince and of course Memphis big-man Drew Richmond. There are still a couple of intriguing in-state prospects knocking on the door for offers like Westerville's Rob Dowdy, Winton Woods' teammates George Brown, Jr. and Noah Listermann and even West Virginia commitment Matt Jones from Hubbard. 

Prediction: James Daniels, Austin Clark, Matthew Burrell and Rob Dowdy.

2015 Predictions - May 2014
POSITION NAME HOMETOWN CONFIDENCE (1-5)
QB Torrance Gibson Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 4
RB Damien Harris Berea, Kentucky 4
WR Christian Kirk Scottsdale, Arizona 4
WR Van Jefferson Brentwood, Tennessee 3
WR  JF Thomas Dallas, Texas 3
TE Hale Hentges Jefferson City, Missouri 3
OL James Daniels Warren, Ohio 4
OL Rob Dowdy Westerville, Ohio 2
OL Austin Clark Lexington, Virginia 3
OL Matthew Burrell Woodbridge, Virginia 4
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Waltbuck's picture

Full trust in Urban!

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bigDbuck's picture

Thanks. And more solid on Kirk than Van, wow. Also, couldn't agree more that a very good Penn St (along with MSU, UM, and Wisc/Neb is good for all. Bama has Burn, and LSU.

Alpo's picture

I would be thrilled if we ended up with those predictions on the offensive side of the ball! Obviously we all want these guys to start committing, but it will come with time. That would be a great haul! Thanks again Birm, might not be enough to get some of the faithful "off the ledge" unfortunately. 

DudeNick4's picture

Thanks Birm, sometimes it's easy to get tunnel vision.

Unky Buck's picture

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...so we were misinformed by Kent Brockman and we don't need to start to panic?

 

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Buckeye06's picture

Interesting that your confidence is the highest for the best of those players...at least in regards to skill position guys

toad1204's picture

They're takin our 'croots.

Thanks for the for the renewed confidence Birm. 

Keep calm, trust in UFM.

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

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daveyt11's picture

Now, here comes the tough part to digest: as a Buckeye fan you should be glad, yes glad, that Penn State is having this success. The stronger the Big Ten, the better for Ohio State,......Well said, we need to get the BIG back to mid 2000 levels. NEB, PSU, WISKY, MSU,ILLINOIS, IOWA and yes MICHIGAN all need to start becoming or remain BIG contenders. 

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bucknasty13's picture

Exactly, we need the "traditional" powers of the B1G to start doing better...as long as we keep beating on them, it's all good.

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CC's picture

That's just it, if PSU and UM are back to being legit powers we will lose some games.  I think there are a lot of OSU fans who forget what it is like to lose to either of them on a regular basis.  There will be some serious pain in buckeye nation when that happens.  While I want them both to be good so I can stop listening to the B1G sucks monologue, the memories of the 90's are still painful.

IGotAWoody's picture

We suffered thru the 90s because Michigan, PSU and Wisconsin were consistently good, but we were INconsistently good. I have full faith that under UFM, the Bucks will be consistently good.

A few more losses, but a better overall conference, will ultimately help us.

 - License to kill gophers (wolverines, badgers, etc) by the government of the United Nations

jamesrbrown322's picture

Birm, what is the story with Peete? I know the crystal ball is not necessarily always meaningful, but it makes him seem to be an OSU lean, yet we never really hear much about him. Just curious.

I hope they land a commitment soon so that we can have some positive discussions, rather than the "step back off the ledge" postings. Everything will be fine and OSU will be loaded going into 2015, 2106, and onward.
 

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

Ball-Z-Buck's picture

I wouldn't be nervous or frustrated if our targets weren't committing to other schools but some are as we sit on one or two verbals. Secondly, placing all the effort into Gibson seems like a huge gamble especially since he has tweeted a top 15 list....seriously? Diva

BierStube's picture

 

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

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Soggy_McMuffin's picture

so basically boom or bust.

I sorry I apologize for being negative just kinda pissed about this right now.

 

 

 

 

Gooz-fra-bah...

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blocko330's picture

Hoke is so disgusting

“Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle.”

- TruthTeller

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bucknasty13's picture

Here's something I think is a little funny, as of right now, Florida Atlantic, Texas-San Antonio and Western Michigan all have higher ranked recruiting classes than us.  Just kind of humorous to me.  I'm embracing the slow start because I know how we will finish.

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teddyballgame's picture

Interesting that you're only 60% confident in Van Jefferson...seemed like that might have been higher a month ago.  Hope we aren't losing him!

Also, it's a shame that Ohio isn't producing top QBs...sure would make this a lot easier.

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BroJim's picture

We are, he is just a few years down the line. But I get what you're saying we could use one NOW.

I season my simple food with hunger

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Jeremy Birmingham's picture

I worry about what an LSU offer could do....

bwherbert's picture

To be honest.....the people saying "take a chill pill....trust Urban" are almost as annoying as the people saying "PANIC". The truth (as I see it):

Ohio State has hit a dry spell on the recruiting trail. Anyone who says this isn't just a little bit concerning is flat-out lying. That being said, I think the recent string of rejections are more symptomatic of Urban offering many more recruits than Tress....this leads to more rejections. Urbs has also taught me never to judge a recruiting class until after NSD so I will withhold judgment until then. But I think even Urbs would admit that he's not happy with the way the class has turned out at this point.

 

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D-Day0043's picture

That was always my philosophy in my pre-marital dating years. Ask every beautiful woman I see out, and eventually one of them will say yes. What's the worst that can happen? All they can say is no.

I am D-Day0043 and I approve this message.

nm_buck's picture

What's the worst that can happen? 

The one that finally says yes, ends up being a transvestite formerly named Carl?

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D-Day0043's picture

It sounds like you have had some experience with that sort of thing? ;-)

I am D-Day0043 and I approve this message.

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woodcocklives@osu's picture

Personally, I could give a sh!t about current commitments, but how it's covered in the blogosphere (not only here), is borderline comedic.

Last year, Urban lights up the recruiting trail, scores a number of early commits, he's a "rockstar", "unprecedented" "amazing".  This year, things aren't looking so rosy, and Urban's a "psychologist" "pushing his staff", a "master motivator".

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AngryWoody's picture

Why do you read this site if all you are ever going to post are angry and hateful things? If everything and everyone here is so awful you can leave you know.

Our Honor Defend!

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Jeremy Birmingham's picture

Wrong, on a lot of levels. Last year Urban didn't "light up" anything until near the end of May. Everyone was freaking out last April too.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

To be honest.....the people saying "take a chill pill....trust Urban" are almost as annoying as the people saying "PANIC". The truth (as I see it):

Ohio State has hit a dry spell on the recruiting trail. Anyone who says this isn't just a little bit concerning is flat-out lying.

Most annoying of all are those who claim to know what others are really thinking. 

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Hovenaut's picture

Right on Birm...

 

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

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Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

"Human, behold your future and know despair; the secret of the opposable thumb is mine".

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Youngbuck85's picture

Kirk+ harris +Gibson =national championship. Can you imagine these guys plus everyone from the last class?  And Egw? Damn

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Killer nuts's picture

If we land that trifecta of recruits it will calm a lot of nerves 

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jaxbuckeye's picture

You mean triumvirate?

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sharks's picture

15 gives Penn State a full class, right? Even with the restrictions easing, I think they have 65 guys coming back after this year (subject to injuries and transfers).

The postgame show is brought to you by... Christ, I can't find it. The hell with it...

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jamesrbrown322's picture

Estimates, given probable attrition with a new coach, as well as the 4 walk on schollies that they could rescind probably puts them at 22-23 for this class if I had to guess. 

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

With their current momentum, I see no way Franklin doesn't take a full 25 and then push out some "dead weight."

FROMTHE18's picture

in true SEC fashion…glad to see Penn State has adjusted the culture in Happy Valley. Over-emphasizing football didn't cause problems before...

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vitaminB's picture

I'm just pissed we missed out on Cronkrite.  That dude can party.

nm_buck's picture

And that's the way it is.

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allinosu's picture

If PSU's class holds, I don't see us catching them. They have a easier path to the field. I can live with a top 15 class.

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HilltopHustle's picture

If they hold where they are now (15), we catch them. If they do get to 22 or 23 like some think, it'll be pretty tough.

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d5k's picture

Quality > quantity in this class.

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bleedscarlet's picture

Surprised you'd have EGW playing DB considering how he balled out against Webb. If he plays defense better than he plays offense, we're in for a treat.... let's hope he makes it on campus.

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

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jamesrbrown322's picture

Maybe Chris Gamble, Jr?

 

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

Knarcisi's picture
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jamesrbrown322's picture

Insanity later!

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

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osubuck57's picture

Love the offensive prediction list. If I could switch one, it would be Pat Allen or Drew Richmond for Dowdy. Surprised your that high on Daniels. Would love him in this class, just didn't think we were as high on his list.

SCOTTC.

Eph97's picture

What was the deal with Settle? I thought he really liked LJ sr. and was a strong lean for us?

oregonianbuckeye's picture

Not sure the details, but there was a report a few weeks ago that OSU is no longer actively recruiting him. Have no idea why, but it sounds like he won't be a buckeye.

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HilltopHustle's picture

No longer looking good. Think he's heading south.

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

Ohio State has moved on and Settle will not be a Buckeye unless something drastic were to change.

BukFan's picture

Does LJ Sr know he's allowed to start recruiting? ?

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TheNorthernBuckeye's picture

I really wanted Wimbush bad.  Next on my list are Harris for obvious reasons and Kirk because that kid looks darn special.  

"You're an angry football team, and I'm proud to be your coach." - UFM

buckguyfan1's picture

Well, this has made for a pleasant happy hour in the PCL.  Service has been excellent and the waitresses are absolutely stunning. 

otrain2416's picture

Everyone who's doubting Urban in May, 9 months out from signing day, we'll be accepting apologies in February 2015 when OSU signs its 4th consecutive top 5 class under Urban. 

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DCNick's picture

Alex Stump of St. Eds has brothers at OSU and is an OSU fan. If OSU offers then I think he flips. This could be a Brady Taylor situation.

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skid21's picture

I'm not panicking at all..maybe a little bored...but seeing a post where we are hoping to flip a UK commit is a tad concerning. Nah, nope and never. Enjoy UK.

irishfury's picture

Of course people our concerned.  Where OSU and have Urban Meyer as coach.  No way OSU should have 2 recruits.  We have half as many recruits for the 2017 class already.  I trust Urban will have a great class but when Penn State will have 15 commits as of tonight of course people our going to be up in arms.  Lets also not pretending that Urban is losing a few recruits he really wanted to Penn State.  In a two day time span our #1 Qb target has us 4th and our #2 Qb target is most likely committing to a Rival.  Even through scarlett covered glasses I can't say I'm happy about it.  I'm willing to be Urban has broken a few pieces of furniture in his office lately.

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Crimson's picture

I was going to poke fun at your horrible grammar, but instead I'll just let you know that Penn State is not a rival, no matter how much they want to be.

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irishfury's picture

I don't come to a football board for grammar.  I'm dyslexic and have done quite well for myself.  Good thing computers, programming, networking a marketing don't require it huh.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Computers and Programming actually do require grammar, it just isn't English grammar.  Every programming language is defined by a grammar.

Also, I would hope that in marketing, any of the materials you produce are grammatically correct.  If not, potential customers and clients may not take you seriously.  Kind of like on this football board, actually.

Eph97's picture

CJ Sanders just verballed to ND. Wow, he was a legacy recruit too. What's up with that? There's another legacy recruit in Ohio, I forget his name, has Auburn as his leader. SMH.

 

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TheBadOwl's picture

CJ Sanders didn't ever get his OSU offer. And James Daniels wants to forge his own path, apparently, just like Dante Booker did last year (he's the son of an Auburn alum).

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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jamesrbrown322's picture

OSU was never really interested in Sanders from what I understand. I also know a colleague of Chris's and C.J.'s mom was probably going to make sure that he did not go to OSU if she could. It is surprising, as many people were thinking Stanford was the team to beat.

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

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MAVBuck's picture

If we would've got Sanders he would've never seen the field. He fills the same role as Dixon, Marshall, and Wilson.

FROMTHE18's picture

I still don't believe 'early playing time' (which is never a 100% certainty, and these kids should know that) is the primary reason these kids are committing to PSU this early. Not that I know much about Franklin other than he made Vandy less of a "what the hell is a Vandy?" football program, he coached in the SEC where following recruiting rules isn't even encouraged, and he is an amateur pimp, but he's gotta be winning these kids over with something else. PSU is a nice campus, but in the middle of nowhere. Their tradition is now a punch line for jokes about pedophilia, they got smacked down in Columbus last year, and they are still on probation. I just don't see the draw to play there, no matter what Franklin would tell me, so I think thats the shocking part of this run PSU is on. Its more about trying to answer the question, "why commit to PSU now?" It'd be much different if PSU had a great year and then recruits started lining up to commit, but he hasn't coached a single game there yet. 

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jamesrbrown322's picture

Say what you want, but Franklin has always related well to recruits. It cannot be undervalued how savvy he is when it comes to recruiting, and the connection he makes with recruits. The man built Vanderbilt into a top 25-30 recruiting program. That's crazy. The question with Franklin will always be his X's and O's which were never terrific at Vandy.

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

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BukFan's picture

Many kids committed to OSU before UFM coached a single game too.  So what?   Coackes have a history, kids know the style they wanna implement. 

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FROMTHE18's picture

Urban won 2 national titles….Franklin beat Tennessee...

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jamesrbrown322's picture

And that shell of a Georgia team...and that group of guys wearing Florida's uniforms one Saturday.

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

Citrus's picture

We don't need the traditional powers in the B1G to do better and Urban certainly doesn't need a wake up call. I remember a loss and a near loss against the mitten state last year. I also remember that although the B1G wasn't very good, tOSU was in the national title discussion.

I am not panicking but this class is behind right now. There have been several guys Urbz wanted that went elsewhere. Not saying the war is lost but Urbz has lost quite a few battles. I am fairly confident this ends well but to say there isn't cause for concern is as silly as panicking.

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Eph97's picture

I agree. I like seeing all of them lose and them weaker gives an easier path to the playoffs. An undefeated OSU will never be shut out of the playoffs, even if the rest of the B1G sucks. Yes, 1 loss would do them in but I'll take those chances. Heck, even if the B1G got super tough 1 loss might still do them in with ESPN pimping its darling SEC for 2 spots.

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nm_buck's picture

I don't get you guys who seem to favor a weak B1G.  A strong conference makes for a strong Buckeye team.  If we ain't good enough to win the B1G, we shouldn't be in playoff consideration.  However, with a strong B1G, a 1-loss Buckeye team has a chance to make the dance.  Weak conferences SUCK, especially when you're the top dog.   It does nobody any good as far as I have seen.

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Eph97's picture

Nebraska ran roughshod through a soft as butter Big 8/12 in the 90's (actually main reason I disliked them) and didn't suffer at all. Texas, Oklahoma sucked. Colorado was decent, but UNL still beat them almost every year. Did not harm UNL one bit. Miami abused the Big East for years in the 90's, FSU did the same to the ACC, USC in the early 2000's had no competition in the Pac. I understand your reasoning, but it is not born out by facts. The fact is 1 loss usually takes a team out of national title contention.

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nm_buck's picture

If you are saying Nebraska played in a weak conference in 94, 95 and 97... you might want to google it.  Two out of those three years, half of the big 8 finished in the top 20.  5 teams in 1997 finished in the top 20.  Can't hardly remember last time that happened in the B1G.

We're pretty good in roundball.  IMHO it is because we play in a top conference... which translates to a competitive season where every game is a potential loss... which prepares the team for competition, big games, and adversity.  The Bucks usually go comparatively far into the tournament because they have already played a ton of big games, often in hostile environs.  Their schedule helps them get respect, and it helps them win in the post season.  

Just my .02.... makes for an interesting discussion.

 

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swainpm's picture

I personally would like the BIG to be the best conference it can be. If tOSU loses a few games because of the strength of the conference then at least we can all watch good competition. The best seasons don't always have to end in championships. I believe it was 2005 when UT won the BCSNG but what a great season for tOSU. Games were some of the most entertaining I can remember...as were the last second victories by the 2002 team. Running the table when its pathetic should equate to no shot in the playoff. It might not happen to an SEC team right now, but a stronger BIG would do the same for tOSU.

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

SWAINPM - I am right with you here!

I root for every B1G team (yes, even scUM) during their OOC schedule.  The ONLY WAY we get respect is to see other teams in our conference do well.

I'll even pull for scUM to be undefeated every year, that is, UNTIL we get them.  The #1 vs #2 matchup of OSU and scUM was THE BEST.  I wished this could be the scenario more often when The Game is played.  Why NOT have the greatest rivalry in all of sport set up with this type of drama and hype?

Those who want weak conference opponents in the B1G just are NOT TRUE BUCKEYE FANS.

Marc Pocock (a.k.a NuttyBuckeye)

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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Citrus's picture

I am not in favor of a weak B1G it is just that it isn't necessary for Ohio State's purposes. Further, we're supposed to feel good about losing recruits that Urbz was targeting to PSU because it will make the B1G better, which is good for tOSU. You know what would be better for tOSU? Getting those recruits. Now, I will root for PSU in a recruiting battle with 'Bama but losing a recruit to them sure as hell isn't a good thing.

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Citrus's picture

SIDE RANT. Keep Calm and Carry On parodies are not funny at all. They aren't clever. Please, world, quit creating "Keep Calm and Drink beer. Keep Calm and Party On" etc memes. It is more played out than Gangham Style but was never funny.

Note: the title reminded me and I went on a rant. Not commenting on the title. If the title was "Keep Calm and Urban On" or something I would have included the article in my critique.

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Becool12's picture

Recruiting is an always changing world. I think there is no real way to predict who will end up in the class. I am a relatively calm person, but seeing all of our leads and supposed leans go elsewhere makes me questions a lot, especially when kids are either committing early or waiting till all star games. I still think the class will finish strong, just not as well as many predicted. 

Becool12's picture

Recruiting is an always changing world. I think there is no real way to predict who will end up in the class. I am a relatively calm person, but seeing all of our leads and supposed leans go elsewhere makes me questions a lot, especially when kids are either committing early or waiting till all star games. I still think the class will finish strong, just not as well as many predicted. 

BuckeyeWags's picture

The basketball team has more (3) and better commits than the football team. Our ass is being handed to us. Last year at this time we had what..10, 11. This is a problem. 

MAVBuck's picture

Its amazing how spoiled we've become. I dont like only have a couple guys at this point either but Im not testing the beams in my house to see if they can hold a 200 lb man. The ship will be righted. Like Birm said, if you think we're going to end up somewhere outside of the top 5 youre a lunatic. 

Keep Calm and Trust Urban!

NuttyBuckeye's picture

Again, keep calm and do not panic.  Look at the two recruiting classes that Meyer has brought into Columbus.  We are pretty deep and loaded at most positions across the board.  I am not surprised that we are not seeing too many recruits commit yet.  Maybe some are afraid of the competition and getting buried in the depth chart - who knows??

One thing for sure: Meyer won't settle for all 2 star athletes to fill the class.  He won't have to.  We will be fine...

Marc Pocock (a.k.a NuttyBuckeye)

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

KingsRite's picture

 

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

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cdkmike's picture

where the defense guys at on list 

Michael green

Crimson's picture

You missed the title and "starting this week with the offensive side of the ball."

wyatt's picture

How is James Franklin getting all these recruits to Penn State (rated no. 1 to 3 nationally) when they are on a two year postseason bowl ban? I would like to know what he is offering these guys. He must be quite a salesman.http://www.ydr.com/psu/ci_25604306/penn-state-footballs-future-fueled-by...

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BukFan's picture

Its still Penn State.  We all just overreacted to the narrative being fed to us for 2 years.

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DefendYoungstown's picture

I would have to agree, Franklin didn't do this at Vandy so what is so magical about state penn...  Something's not right, why is psu so appealing to these kids now?

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

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ToledoMan's picture

Exactly what I've been saying and getting down voted.  Something is up, because historically this has never happened to a program hit this hard. 

d5k's picture

University of Southern California had some pretty highly ranked recruits during their recent 2 year bowl ban / scholarship hammering.  I seem to recall Urban coming in and turning a mediocre class into a top 5 class in 2-3 months despite a bowl ban.

allinosu's picture

It's likely he is pitching the fact if you go to OSU you will get redshirted but at PSU we need you on the field now. It's an easier path to the field there. I think this our year and winning will bring solid recruits. Plus, there has been a lot of very very good 3 star players pass through our doors.

Shangheyed's picture

STILL lots of time with some great propects left on the board... Confidence is H'eye!

This could be result of prospects knowing there is a lot of talent in front of them, the two deep is looking very young and very athletic...

If we had 2-3 national championships under our belt this would not be an issue, the 'brand' needs to take the next step IMO.  Some great moments these last two years, but the last two losses didn't help... nor does the fact we have had some excellent classes the last two years.  Looking fwd to a win, even a long snapper...we certainly haven't won more than we have lost during the early days of recruiting. 

Maybe its not worry, just regret in not getting some of the players we have been following, as well we know would look good in Scarlet and Gray!

 

 

 

 

MAVBuck's picture

Great, great, great stuff. I havent been losing any sleep to this point but it would be extremely nice to see us get one. With a prediction like this though I dont care if it comes tomorrow or early February. Top 5 class indeed. Again, great work, Birm!

tommrkr's picture

Once the gravel trucks are done with Mirror Lake, they might as well fill up the Shoe too.  We won't need it anymore.

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buckeyestu's picture

Thank you Birm. This is now the month of May. Roughly 9 months to signing day. Lots of time, and camps coming up. Now things will start to get busy.

buckguyfan1's picture

Ok Birm, we're ready for Part 2...

 

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luckynutz's picture

As I recall it was a horror film...

iamcbs's picture

It's Wednesday May 7, 2014 @ 1:43PM and M*ch*g*n still sux!! Wake me up on NLOI Day!!

I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep, I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion~Alexander the Great

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Qujo's picture

With the latest additions to PSU they are pretty much done and sit at 53% of 4 and 5 stars. In past years primarily due to sanctions 21%. The B1G needs this. But also keep in mind OSU has averaged 68% over the past four years. We will be alright in the end and the B1G will be much more improved because of PSU recruiting better. Going to 9 games in conference hoping to make a playoff spot we need strength of schedule against B1G opponents to factor in and that only happens if the Big is better. In Urban I Trust.

"Tough times don't last, tough people do" - Gregory Peck

OSU_1992_UFM's picture

Fire Fickell

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