TCU Has Their Word Too

November 24, 2010 at 9:34p    by Alex    
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gravey's picture

Screw those guys.  They don't play in a tough conference.  I don't care if they and Boise do play a couple of games a year against BCS level competition.  It's not the few showcase match ups that ruin seasons  It's navigating the season long grind without a misstep.  How many times over the last 40 years has Ohio State, or a school from the SEC, PAC 10 or B12 lost a national championship to a mid-level conference foe?  It happens every year.  MSU 1998 springs to mind immediately.  That NEVER happens in the WAC or MWC.  When was Boise's last in-conference loss?  2 games do not a championship season make.

Roger's picture

LOL. Ironic that the president of TCU would pull the jealousy card when talking about tOSU. 

Call us back when you're consistently playing in and winning BCS games. Also if you ever happen to beat 5 10 win teams in a year we're interested to hear about that as well.

Irricoir's picture

 

As if were not hated enough already..You know the only thing that could worsen our reputation is to lose to either school anywhere in the near future. You know those haters are licking their chops and waiting, waiting for our first loss against anyone. Time to rise to the challenge OSU. We didn't go picking the fight. The little guy in the crowd, standing behind the Big Guy, barking and casting stones has spoken for us.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

741's picture

Bring it! TCU/Boise State should be willing to come to Ohio State and take what we pay teams like Eastern Michigan and Ohio University (i.e., $800,000).

Come on Gene - make this happen!

Johnny Ginter's picture

TCU and Boise are both better football teams this year than OSU. don't wanna play either one of em this year, because it's lose/lose (this is also why no one wants to play them ever)

Johnny Ginter's picture

of course, during the regular season though? hell yeah, that would be awesome.

nickma71's picture

Some on Utah (remember them?) indicated The Domers front seven athleticisim was suprsising. After they were hammered by TCU the week before. Wisconsin will  dismantle Boise State in the Rose Bowl.

Bucksfan's picture

Ohio State would blow either of those teams off the friggin' field.  I don't care what they've done to VaTech or Oregon State or Oregon.  They do not have the firepower to overcome Ohio State's defense.

This doesn't mean I think Boise or TCU doesn't deserve their shot at the title this year.  In that particular case, I think Gee's wrong.  Yes, the Big Ten is FAR tougher than either the WAC or the MWC.  But that doesn't mean MSU, Wisconsin, or Ohio State (especially) should be given special treatment if they lose a game.

My biggest problem with all of this is that Gee is from Ohio State.  And Ohio State as we all know does not have a national championship resume this season, and is still nursing its big game woes from several years ago (getting blasted by Wisconsin is a good example that they're still not bringing their A game when it counts).  So, he just made us all look like chumps.

Johnny Ginter's picture

i really, really, really don't think that OSU would blow TCU or boise off the field. i don't think that the gap between the teams is gigantic, but having seen several games from both TCU and boise, and given how OSU has played against top tier teams this year... i dunno man. i can see saying we could beat them, but blowing the out of the water seems wrong.

Bucksfan's picture

I mean, it's all conjecture as it is, right?  Even the polls and the BCS are just formal conjectures by a consensus.  Without a democratic playoff amongst champions, all we have is "yeah, well my big brother would beat up yours anyday" sort of arguments.  Let's play and find out.

Johnny Ginter's picture

this is absolutely 100% true

nickma71's picture

TCU and Boise against whom? That is the problem. Hell, Herbie convinced me of their dominance becauase they beat Idaho 12 straight times.

Jason Priestas's picture

The thing is, TCU backed out of a matchup with OSU recently, so while Boise has a little room to talk, TCU does not.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2009/11/in_chasing_bcs_glory_did_tcu_m.html

Roger's picture

Exactly. Sorry TCU and Boise St. but unless you're willing to come play us at our place where we actually have enough seats to put butts in then we'll have to meet you in a bowl game. 

You are smaller, less prestigious schools that play much softer, injury free schedules. Nothing wrong with that if you own it.

Kasino Royale's picture

Oh its already been broughten!!!!! lol

 

Colin's picture

Am I the only one that's kind of embarrassed by this? Now we just seem like the little whiny kid complaining after we lose that the other kids cheated or something and that its not fair to us.

Gee really put us in a tough spot with this, this year our strength of schedule isn't much better than either of those teams anyway. We now look stupid.

JakeBuckeye's picture

5 years ago... Woulda cared.

These days, don't give a shit.

blazers34's picture

I wish Gordon would have kept his friggin mouth shut.  More important matters this week.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Makes me wonder if he said this to drive interest in OSU playing one of these teams? So we avoid LSU in the Sugar or to maybe increase our chances of a Rosebowl?

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I don't care to play either of these teams. I would rather play Texas, USC, Oregon, Nebraska, Bama, Florida etc...there is no reason for OSU to play either of these teams.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

the hell there isn't...do it once..put them in their place..and it's over..they'll never try to open their mouth again

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I'll disagree. Where is the benefit to OSU? We win and then what? We beat a nobody. We lose and it's OSU can't beat a nobody. Keep OSU in the company of deserving programs.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

but if it doesn't happen..we run into the same thing..year in year out...it's gotta be old to everyone else as it is me. And in all honesty, you know that if we played and beat Boise State....it wouldn't go unnoticed..not a chance in hell...tcu? maybe

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Roger's picture

I laugh every time TCU or Boise St. makes noise about playing anyone anywhere. The truth of the matter is they are not willing to play ball. They pretend to have equal bargaining power when they schedule bigger schools but money is the bottom line.

TCU lost both of their season openers against "real" teams in '07 and '08 and snubbed OSU's offer to play them in '09 because they wanted a home and away. Sorry TCU...there's not enough money in it for us to travel to your 44,000 capacity stadium. 

Denny's picture

This comment thread surely will serve to be an embarrassing portion of the internet archives if we ever lose to either of these teams.

Taquitos.

Hoody Wayes's picture

 

Both teams play the equivalent of a 2 or 3-game, regular-season schedule. Compared to their potential SEC/Pac-10/Big 12 or Big 10 opponents in bowls, they'd show up well-rested and quite healthy. 
yrro's picture

And they *are* good teams. Very good teams. Very good teams that play a weaksauce schedule.

Even this year, when OSU ended up with one of the worst strength of schedules in years... Wisconsin is easily a better team than Virginia Tech, and Iowa is better than anyone else on their schedule. Penn State would probably rank up there as well. And this is nothing compared to last year, when OSU beat five teams that finished with double digit wins.

I will definitely say that either team is good enough that they *can* beat us. They may even have a slight advantage head to head, as they are playing for a bit more than we would be in such a matchup.

But the thing is, pretty much any team in the top ten probably has at least a 40% chance of beating each other on a given night. That doesn't mean that their record against that schedule is worthy of a MNC berth.

I mean looking at their schedule... if Tress went worse than 11-1 against it *everyone* would be calling for his head, and most would be pretty unhappy with the 1 loss.

Johnny Ginter's picture

I mean looking at their schedule... if Tress went worse than 11-1 against it *everyone* would be calling for his head, and most would be pretty unhappy with the 1 loss.

yes. what a strange and unfamiliar universe that would be.

Hoody Wayes's picture

 

Want more proof TCU/Boise State have ridden soft schedules and are unworthy of their rankings? Compare injury reports! Give me a break (pardon the pun)!

 

 
Boise State
[TE] 11/07/2010 - Tommy Gallarda out indefinitely ( Foot )
[RB] 09/29/2010 - DJ Harper out for season ( Knee )
[LB] 11/16/2010 - Byron Hout out for season ( Foot )
 
TCU
[RB] 11/15/2010 - Ed Wesley "?" ( Foot )
[DT] 10/28/2010 - Kelly Griffin out for season ( Ankle )
[OL] 10/12/2010 - Blaize Foltz out for season ( Knee )
 
Ohio State
DB] 09/13/2010 - CJ Barnett out for season ( Knee )
[DB] 10/13/2010 - Donnie Evege out indefinitely ( Elbow )
[S] 10/03/2010 - Tyler Moeller out for season ( Pectoral )
[OT] 08/20/2010 - Marcus Hall expected to redshirt ( Academics )
[WR] 08/05/2010 - Duron Carter has transferred ( Personal )
[S] 10/25/2010 - Christian Bryant out for season ( Foot )
[CB] 10/26/2010 - Corey Brown out for season ( Leg )
[LB] 10/30/2010 - Etienne Sabino out indefinitely ( Undisclosed )
[LB] 10/29/2010 - Scott McVey out for season ( Shoulder )

 

(source: http://www.statfox.com/cfb/injuries.htm)

Denny's picture

Nice list that includes a transfer, academic resdshirt, and the Sabino redshirt as 'injuries'. Also, you can't PROVE anything, only disprove things. 

/Scientist'd

Taquitos.

Hoody Wayes's picture

What are you positing...much less proving? Nothing. 

Denny's picture

What am I positing? That a list of injuries is an absolutely silly bit of secondary evidence with respect to the difficulty of one's schedule. Injuries happen to everyone. 

And if you're going to list "injuries" as evidence, you completely discredit your argument by not listing guys who are being held out for redshirts (like Sabino and Hall), or guys who transfer out (like Duron). That's what I'm positing. And thinking. I'm doing both, don't worry.

Taquitos.

Denny's picture

Good to know that you've already thought out your excuses well-ahead of time.

Taquitos.

Hoody Wayes's picture

It was rather extemporaneous. This is data. Injuries matter. You know, you may click on the link and examine the IR's of other teams, FYI.  The only one's making excuses are Boise State/TCU.

I am thinking. What are you doing? It's not thinking.

Irricoir's picture

Are there rules in place after the Bowl season that would prevent an exhibition game between two said schools? If they travelled or we travelled to a neutral site, not Jerryworld and split the profits according to attendance. There to view the Buckeyes, our University gets the cut, There for TCU, their University gets the cut, there for neither to watch the fallout, then the Host gets the cut. Just an idea full of wholes I understand, but I wouldn't mind watching the game. Definately a money maker.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

+1..problem is if it means nothing they won't risk their health for a game like that...reality..but awesome idea

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

yrro's picture

If they really want respect, I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been more push for this. Almost no one is going to travel to Idaho to cram into a tiny stadium, but a neutral site game could easily be a *big* deal. I'd try to schedule one every year if I were the AD's.

741's picture

I would love to see a regular season matchup with either TCU or Boise State in a neutral site - like Yankee Stadium or Cowboys Stadium.

Hoody Wayes's picture

 

If we didn't have polls nor the BCS - if we had a playoff -  Boise State and TCU would be where the hell they belong...OUT of the picture.
 
BSU/TCU fans want respect? They should root for a team that has earned it! Build bigger stadiums or pay visitors what their teams would earn, if they played at Tennessee, Alabama, TX, USC, ND, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State. 
 
I love how Boise State and TCU are hailed for their opportunism. Where was the display of opportunism, when it came to filling the 2-team void in the Big 12? How about this, why don't TCU and Boise State tear a page from college football history and follow the path Notre Dame took in proclaiming football independence?
 
It's about time Boise State and TCU are exposed as frauds - beneficiaries of sports media favoritism. These are the two foremost examples the system we have for choosing a college football national champion is, utterly flawed. 
 
For all the aforementioned I have noted, I urge college football fans to put pressure on all those who have a vote or say in the polls and the BCS, to drop both Boise State and TCU from all the "Top 25's" - effective Sunday, November 28th.  The majority of Americans will not - I believe - accept either team as a BCS bowl winner, much less the National Champion of college football.
Sofa Kingdom's picture

What the hell is a "Horney Frog"?