Buckeyes Ranked Fourth in Initial BCS Rankings

By Kyle Rowland on October 20, 2013 at 10:20p
Eyes on the prize, gents.
1 Alabama .984
2 Florida State .935
3 Oregon .932
4 Ohio State .855
5 Missouri .822
6 Stanford .741
7 Miami .720
8 Baylor .712
9 Clemson .625
10 Texas Tech .622

Let the debate begin.

For the last time, the first Bowl Championship Series rankings were released, and they didn't favor the Ohio State Buckeyes. They’re ranked fourth, behind three undefeated teams.

The top five is: 1. Alabama 2. Florida State 3. Oregon 4. Ohio State 5. Missouri.

The gap from three to four is sizable, too. Oregon’s BCS average is 0.932, nearly eight hundredths of a point better than Ohio State’s. In the BCS lexicon, it’s equivalent to a two-touchdown lead. But before panic sets in in Buckeye Nation, remember it's still October and the BCS rankings are fluid.

The past week of college football – wild and filled with upsets, which dramatically changed the BCS landscape –was evidence of that. Florida State’s blowout of Clemson vaulted them to second, while yet another surprising Missouri win – this time over Florida – solidified their place atop the SEC East and inside the top five of the BCS.

The Seminoles’ 51-14 thrashing of the then-No.3 team on the road in a hostile environment at night is the most impressive victory of the season, and poll voters took notice. They jumped Ohio State and are third in both human polls. Florida State has the No. 1 average in the computer ratings.

The Seminoles’ advantage over Oregon is by the thinnest of margins, just three thousandths of a point. With the Ducks playing UCLA and Stanford in the coming weeks, their deficit might not last for long. Florida State’s remaining schedule includes Miami and Florida (and a possible ACC Championship Game), but also three very weak opponents.

Three undefeated teams – Clemson, Louisville, UCLA – lost this week, as did LSU and Texas A&M, both one-loss teams that were ranked in the top 10 of the Coaches and Harris Poll. The list of unbeatens has been whittled from 16 to 10 in just two weeks.

Ohio State’s ranking is a combination of their place in the human polls – fourth in both – and a low computer ranking. The Buckeyes are ranked fifth or lower in four of the six computer ratings used. They don’t just have to worry about the teams ahead of them, either. An undefeated Missouri would almost certainly pass them, and eighth-ranked Baylor might if they finished with zero losses.

Michigan is ranked 22nd and Nebraska, a possible opponent for Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship Game, is 24th. Wisconsin is not ranked.

Fresno State (17th) and Northern Illinois (18th) are in position to earn BCS bowl berths. The Huskies could become the only non-automatic qualifier to play in BCS games in consecutive years. Fresno State and Northern Illinois needs to finish in the top 16 to secure a bid.

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harleymanjax's picture

WOW FSU jumped to #2

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

jenks's picture

It's because Oregon's defense gave up too many points last night.

jaxbuckeye's picture

So THAT'S why Allioti was so pissed.  It's Leach's fault they are number 3.

wojodta's picture

It's cause Wazzu didn't give up last night.

kr66osu's picture

Get wrecked Oregon lol
Also I'm really happy about this, I had a horrible feeling that the computers were going to have enough of a sway to possibly push OSU down even further

harleymanjax's picture

Mizzou is too close to us, if we both win out.......they will jump us

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

jenks's picture

But then Alabama could likely fall below us. It still comes down to OSU v 1-loss SEC team.

BuckeyeB9B82501's picture

Long time follower,1st time commenting. Love 11Ws ........  The thing that gets me is why TOSU is constantly getting crap (from ESecPN, CBS, Fox, etc.) about our SOS. I've read on 11Ws a week or so ago that the SOS of Oregon is 94th in the nation. TOSU is 84th in the country. Bama plays 2 FCS teams EVERY year (1 early and 1 later in the year) yet The Buckeyes are the only team that gets dumped on every week about this SOS, Style points, ya da ya da ya da. Why ???  If we go undefeated this year that would be a 25-0 Ohio State team and we would be on the outside looking in IF there are more than 2 undefeated teams at the time to decide who plays ???? A top 5 program in the history of CFB with a 25 game win streak in this day and age of CFB????  And NOT get a chance to play for all the marbles???????  That would be the biggest mistake the NCAA would have ever made and they would never live it down; even 100 years from now it would be talked about how the NCAA f^€~ed up in 2013.  Style points are BS (yes it's a factor 4 some reason) but you are not going to blow out every team every week. You win by 40 is the same as winning by 4. It's a W in the books. There is talent everywhere. Every team has players (who can play at a high level) but its extremely hard to go undefeated in this era of CFB and to do it 2 years in a row is damn near unheard of. It takes talent, great coaching, great executing and a lot of LUCK to do it. I just can't believe a 25-0 Ohio State  team has a possibility of NOT playing for a National Title. We just need to win out. That's all we can control. Just win. 

Buckeye Dynasty starts in 2014 baby !!!!!! GO BUCKS !!!!!!!! O - H - I - O

Hovenaut's picture

Nice post B9B, right there with you.

Welcome aboard!

BuckeyeSaab's picture

The mistake would not be on the NCAA.  The NCAA does not run the BCS.  Also, the mistake is already made.  The BCS rankings are based on a formula that is already set in stone.  There will be no tweaking to help or hinder Ohio State, or any other school.  That said, let's focus on winning the next game and not get overly worried about what ifs.  There will be plenty of time to cry foul if it comes to pass.

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

jaxbuckeye's picture

That would mean they beat Bama in the SEC championship game in which case they would deserve to jump tOSU.

droessl's picture

There's a pretty big gap between 3 and 4. That shit needs to change. 

Buckeyeholicwompa's picture

Ouch for Clemson. Does anybody ever think about the what ifs had Tajh Boyd came to OSU??

ScarletNGrey01's picture

Nah, would have been a shame if that had happened and he had been the back up instead of Kenny.  :P

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

DaiTheFlu's picture

How in the holy shit is South Carolina ranked and Wisconsin isn't? Shit like this makes the BCS a joke.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

Deadly Nuts's picture

Herbie hates us (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap) Herbie hates us (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap) Herbie hates us (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap)....


Aesculus.'s picture

Maybe Herbie just takes his job too seriously?

harleymanjax's picture

If Mizzou wins out and loses to BAMA, then BAMA is in the NCG
If BAMA wins out and loses to MIZZOU, then Mizzou is in the NCG
If OREGON wins out they will be in the NCG
IF FSU wins out they will need OREGON to lose
If OSU wins out they will need OREGON AND FSU to lose

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

jaxbuckeye's picture

I assume that in your first two cases, the winner is undefeated.  In that case, you are correct.  I believe that Bama, Mizzou, and Oregon are the only teams that control their own destiny.

lax20's picture

The Seminoles beat a suspect Clemson team (overrated).  Clemson had possible close calls against BC and NC State (backup quarterback played).  Rod Gilmore said it best about the Buckeyes and the BCS.  It is very early.  If the Buckeyes are the undefeated team or 1 of 2 undefeateds, they will play in the NC game.  Beware, they are not ready and must improve.  Another embarrassing loss on the national stage cannot happen.  The system has a way of working itself out.  Patience and for the Bucks, just win baby win.

ibuck's picture

The Bucks' D is not good enough to beat teams ranked above them (and probably near them) and is unlikely to improve enough to do so in postseason play. If OSU is fortunate enough to win the B1G Championship, I fear they'll be lucky not get blown out in Pasadena.
Yet there is one trump card in their favor: UFM seems to win tough games other coaches don't. But is there enough magic in the moonlight to get past tough games vs PSU, Indiana & TTUN, not to mention trap games @Purdue & @ Illinois?

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

balbak buck's picture

All this talk about how we lost some players on defense and that is why OHIO ST. defense is hurting now,is crap talk..Look at FSU who lost 7 players on their defense and were all drafted,and see how good their defense is.The only way OSU defense will improve is to get a good solid DC. 

fanatibuck's picture

Dude.......... I agree totally. Check out the Fickell thread and vent. :)


Deadly Nuts's picture

Anyone know where I can find the top 50?


DaiTheFlu's picture

Honestly, the only real issue I have with this is the fact that A&M and South Carolina are ranked, while Wisconsin isn't. We need every quality win we can get, especially since Northwestern shit the bed.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

rock flag and eagle's picture

Wisconsin might have good losses (close losses to osu and ask on the road) but they have zero good wins. None.
Massachusetts 1-6
Tennessee Tech FCS team with losing record 3-5
Purdue worst team in big ten 1-6
Northwestern  unranked & last place in legends Division
Illinois-second worst team in big ten
In fact, their three big ten victories are against opponents who are 0-8 in Big Ten play.  How can some people on this board claim that X,Y, or Z is overrated but then whine that Wisconsin is underrated? Wisconsin has no good wins. doesn't a team have to accomplish something in order to be ranked? Doesn't it bother you when SEC teams are ranked highly without justification? But now we want Wisconsin to be ranked without justification? 

onetwentyeight's picture

Shhhh. You're using too much Logic round these parts. It disturbs the "Mass Conspiracy Plotting to Screw Over OSU/The B1G" narrative half the fanbase has already cemented into its head.

Kurt's picture

Speaking of Wisconsin, shouldn't Arizona State be ranked?!

Swayze's picture

Still a lot of football left to be played....We're sitting pretty. All we have to do is keep winning and let everything else work it's self out.

DefendYoungstown's picture

Just WIN baby!!!

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

Don't fret.  There won't be 4 unbeaten teams in the top-4 when the season ends.  If anything the Buckeyes' soft schedule that is perceived to be harming them now will help them in the future.  Oregon has to navigate #12 UCLA and #6 Stanford in back-to-back games (if not weeks).  Florida State needs to get past The U and Florida.
This was a tepid week for matchups and tons of unbeatens went down.  There are many weeks ahead, many of which are more difficult than this one.
Teams are going down, the Buckeyes just need to make sure it isn't them.

KE's picture

Correct. The Buckeyes do not control their own destiny, but I think we're great shape nonetheless. We are more likely to win out than FSU, and either Oregon or Alabama easily could slip. If we win out, none of the team behind us will overtake us, so I think OSU is in great shape for the NC game.

onetwentyeight's picture

Even if Bama slips, they'll make it if they win the SEC CG. Such is the overwhelming state of SEC Bias right now. But I agree with you about Oregon slipping. We REALLY REALLY need UCLA or Stanford to come through. 

KE's picture

Probably the most fascinating outcome would be undefeated OSU and Oregon, and a one-loss SEC champ. OSU would then have a 25-game winning streak. I don't know what the result would be, but whatever it is, it would be really interesting.

chethammer's picture

Here's what I'd say.  Keep winning and the rest will take care of itself.  We can't be in the conversation if we don't win.  I'll take it.  Alabama and Oregon both have worse schedules than we do so I would say that FSU has a better claim to #1 then anyone else.  Va Tech takes on the Noles soon.  PLUS, did anyone think Tajh Boyd played like he was high or something.  I've never seen him play like that.

harleymanjax's picture

FSU doesn't play VA TECH this year

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

onetwentyeight's picture

They might, in the ACC CG right? (Has no idea how the ACC works, or if they're even in the same division)

harleymanjax's picture

there is a chance, but more than likely it would be a re-match with Miami

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

45has2's picture

Which would mean Miami beat Va Tech, making Miami the better win.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

BuckeyeChief's picture

While FSU beat a possibly over-rated Clemson, they didn't just beat them, the destroyed them on their field. I really have no problems with they way 1-4 are; Missouri is a tad high in my opinion.

"2014 National Champions...deal with it!!!"

Hovenaut's picture

I'm going to watch football on Saturdays through early December.

Then one more in January.

I'm going to enjoy it regardless.

4thandinches's picture

We have to remember that the BCS ranking includes the coaching polls. If at the end of the season we are one of two or the only undefeatead team then the coaches will move us up to at least #2 which would help our BCS ranking greatly. Still a lot of moving to do in the polls. 

I wasn't born a Buckeye but I became one as fast as I could. 

onetwentyeight's picture

The only team that truly worries me is FSU.

Oregon is humming along right now but don't forget they have a rookie HC, and even when Kelly was there they always played at least one low-scoring close game a year, at least. Take out Kelly and it's very likely the new guy stumbles when faced with true adversity for the first time. 
Mizzou is taking advantage of a weakened SEC East (my gosh! the SEC being overrated??!) but don't even have their starting QB out there. Things will catch up to them at some point (and if not, Nick Satan and his Stormtroopers will in the SEC CG). So no worries there. 
The NCAA/BCS/Powers that be/Networks/ESPN ETC will never in a million years let a small-time low revenue program like freaking Texas Tech or Baylor make the NCG over an undefeated OSU. They don't worry me at all either, b/c they're minnows and we're a cash f*cking cow. Ca$h rules everything around me, etc (this IS cfb after all, LOL). 
The only problem we could face is undefeated FSU making it over undefeated OSU to face undefeated Bama. Much as we'd like to bury our heads in the sand and pretend otherwise, should those 3 go undefeated, we're getting left behind. You guys may disagree with how low our conference reputation has fallen, but the REALITY is that it HAS fallen this low and that's just how voters see it. FSU is winning with gaudy scores and a TON of style points. We say style points don't matter, but the truth is they do. Winning matters MORE, but if both teams are undefeated, the voters and bcs computers will take the style points team, aka FSU, and not us. That's just the way it is now.

We're going to need pray to whatever deity you believe in (For me, that's Woody Hayes) for some serious divine help up there to make sure we reach the title game. 

BlockO's picture

The best thing about going 7-0 is the chance to go 8-0. Take no opponent for granted. Play angry and just win babyyy.

"faith seeking understanding” (fides quaerens intellectum)


I sure hope when the playoff comes that NONE of the panelists from this formula are used. I have never liked nor respected Jeff Sagarin (voting Northern Illinois 5th and Oregon State 6th are definite WTF moments). Kenneth Massey has some credibility in that his models try to be objectionable but then he goes and ranks Mizzou No. 2. What????????

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

irishfury's picture

You mean the Sagarin that has Wisconsin ahead of us lol.

jaxbuckeye's picture

Unbelievable.  I don't know how his ranking works but there should be something in the logic that doesn't let that happen.  Even factoring in opponents, tOSU beat them head to head and has less defeats.  Ri-fucking-diculous.

hodge's picture

Yeah, don't understand how in the hell that works, Wisconsin at eight and us at ten -- ditto for ASU at number nine -- but the rating is not what the BCS uses.  The BCS uses Sagarin's "PURE_ELO" ranking, which has OSU at eleven.
Wisconsin's at forty five.

hit_the_couch's picture

The media will somehow try to get Mizzou and Bamer in the MNCG.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

ohiowhitesnake's picture

When you say media, you mean ESPN right?

I finally got a set of Gold Pants!

buckeyedude's picture

I just hope Northern Illinois doesn't jump Ohio State after next week's games.



BABuckeye's picture

Remember 2006, when there was talk about a rematch between tOSU and tsun in the BCS NC game? Urban lobbied hard to get his team into that game.  It will be interesting to see whether he lobbies to get his current team in the NC if tOSU is in a close 3rd in BCS later in season.
of course, the SEC--which argued the most to get UF in that NC game--claimed 2 teams from the same conference should be in title game. They changed their tune when it suited them a few years later. A big benefit of the SEC "upsets" yesterday is that we will not likely see an all SEC title game or even a 1-loss sec team in the last BCS NC game.

jaxbuckeye's picture

First, Buckeyes need to win out.  Second, they need both Oregon to lose (UCLA or Stanford) and FSU to lose (Miami, Florida, VT).  Each of those have a chance of happening.  Unless something crazy happens and they both have a couple of losses going in, the winner of the SEC championship game is going to the NC.  But that's the way it should be.  I assume it would be Bama and a victory over them is the ONLY way tOSU is going to get any respect.  It won't happen beating Mizzou, FSU, or Oregon.  It HAS to be Bama.
Net/Net: tOSU wins out, FSU and Oregon lose, and the Buckeyes play Bama.  I REALLY want that game.

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Don't forget Bama plays LSU and the SEC championship game. And AT Auburn in the angriest rivalry in CFB.

onetwentyeight's picture

Agreed. We MUST play an SEC team, and specifically the SEC's current dynastic team. A win over any of those other teams would feel hollow after ALL THE S*IT THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE GLENDALE, JANUARY 2007. EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THIS. WE GOT SOME DEMONS TO EXORCISE. #41-14 #NeverForget

BuckeyeFanInBoulder's picture

I agree that it must be Bama in a dream come true scenario, but I am not ready to watch that game just yet.  If we beat Oregon, nobody cares.  If we beat FSU, some people quiet down, but there is still grumbling.  If we beat Bama, everyone can just STFU and ESPN goes dark like in the Truman Show movie. (... and there is much rejoicing)

tunehtraef's picture

I am of the mind-set that we play all our games and win them we should be playing for the title because there is only a little over one undefeated team per season on average in the BCS era. However...
I worry that at the end of the regular season there are three undefeated teams: tOSU, Oregon, and Bama. Based on my beliefs thus far in the season, we would be left out of the Championship game if that was after the conference championships. However, in the conference championship, Bama loses a close game to a two loss SEC East champ that is still ranked top ten, because all SEC teams are top ten material, and stays number two in the BCS, narrowly squeaking ahead of us when we beat a "marginal" team in the B1G Championship game because they don't want to leave a SEC team out of the last BCS title game...
Oregon and a one loss Bama (who didn't win their conference) play for the title, we play in the Rose bowl.

BuckeyeFanInBoulder's picture

Every year there is debate, and it seems unanimous among all media talking heads that if you don't win your conference, you can't play in a title game.  Despite all the bias I don't see this happening.  Even if said losing team is from the Holy Confederacy, if there are 2 unbeatens left I don't see any way under the sun that Bama loses the SEC title game but still plays in the BCS title game.

GOOMBAY's picture

Can't play the computers and voters. Take care of business every week, including whatever January date comes to pass.

KingsRite's picture

A 1 loss anybody will not play in the NCG unless there is only one top undefeated team or none at all. The SEC is very weak this year compared to recent seasons past. The talking heads in the media saying it will happen are being morons.

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

ScarletNGrey01's picture

A chicken part of me wonders if this team (love em dearly, great kids) might be better off gong undefeated and maybe get a nice Rose Bowl win, then reel off a few NC's over the seasons to come.  I think the SEC "wall of invincibility" is starting to crumble a bit, this weekend was not good for them.  Bama's image is getting tarnished, all of the incidents happening there, don't know if even their good buddies at ESPN and the NCAA can ignore what's going on over there forever.  Just glad the four team playoffs  are coming next season.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

onetwentyeight's picture

^ Look for THIS complacent attitude to get more prevalent as the season progresses and it becomes more and more obvious that we might get shut out, even as an undefeated. People will begin talking themselves into a "nice Rose Bowl date with 1 loss Oregon" or whatever BULLS*IT rationalization that exists to cover over the fact that we might get shut out of THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME due to playing in too lousy a conference. 
Just putting this here for the record, trying to stop this sort of thinking before it takes root. 

Rockhbuck's picture

At the end of the day, if we go undefeated AND there are two unbeatens ahead of us then I think we are out.
TBH, I'm okay with that. I think the top four rankings are right on. I think IF we are in the NC game and IF the defense progresses then we match up well with anyone. I'm feeling our best chances for a win are against BAMA and then FSU and Oregon. 
However, the defense needs to really get it together over the stretch. PSU is a big test, IMO. They have some momentum. 
End of the day, I think we go undefeated (as does Oregon and FSU) and play Stanford in the Rose Bowl.

onetwentyeight's picture

WOW you guys really? We're already going down the "Sad Ohio Fan Lowering of Expectations" route THIS EARLY? JEsus. All this crap about how we'd probably lose against Bama anyways so it's better to have another EMPTY, PYRRHIC season ending on a "high" note in a game that is NOT the TITLE GAME. UGH. NO. 
It comes down to, would you rather go to the Rose vs say 1 loss Oregon or Stanford and get a nice win and perfect record, while the BIG BOYS play on the BIG STAGE later that month, or would you be willing to play the BEST team left in the land, win or lose. If you ask me, I want to be IN, even if it results in us being blown up by Bama again. That would be tragic and might kill many of us, but I'd at least hope our guys would prevent it and have enough FIGHT in them to at least go down swinging in epic fashion, if not outright winning the damn thing. Remember how in 2002 Miami was every bit as unbeatable as Bama is now, and we were JSUT BARELY beating sad B1G programs every week? Imagine if this SAD SACK DEFEATIST attitude, which is permeating the fanbase, existed back then, and we were ok with not making the NCG in exchange for an "easier" win. SCREW THAT. It's ALL OR NOTHING. NO GUTS NO GLORY [insert every single other extreme sports cliche here]
/end rant

ScarletNGrey01's picture

You'd rather be blown out by Bama maybe a year before the bucks are really ready for the big stage and listen to millions of fans taunt us ... and worst yet further cement the idea into the heads of next season's selection committee that the bucks should never be allowed to be in the playoffs ... than win a prestigious BCS bowl game against another elite program?  OK, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  I'm behind the bucks 100% regardless and in Urban I Trust, but not gonna apologize for my musings despite your internet tough guy rant.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

onetwentyeight's picture

Because you take those chances when presented to you. Nothing about tomorrow or next season is guaranteed. What makes you think we'll make it all the way back for a 3rd undefeated year in a row? If you have the chance however remotely of playing in the NCG then you take it because it means you might WIN. The Odds of winning may vary depending on who you play but it's not 99% certain Bama blows us out. I said I'd rather they did than us not go AT ALL. Because it would at least mean we gave it our best shot, instead of punting our chance away for a future hypothetical that may never happen. So many things can go wrong in a season: guys get hurt, ncaa issues, coaches leaving, stupid dumb bad luck. You can't seriously bank on NEXT season over this because you're AFRAID of losing.

Like I said before, the 2002 OSU team never exactly looked like world-beaters in ANY of their games, while that Miami team was arguably the most NFL talented squad in CFB history. And going by your rationale, that 2002 group should've just saved themselves the potential humiliation of possibly being blown out and looked forward to next year. But we all know how that turned out when they finally played the actual game. That's all I ask for and all I ask our fans for. TO want a chance to actually get to play. I don't think that's asking for too much or being unreasonable Internet Tough Guy.  

ibuck's picture

Have you forgotten that OSU's 2002 team had a fabulous defense and a serviceable offense? It's Defense that wins Championships. The 2013 Buckeyes have allowed a player or 2 on nearly every team they've played to look like a world beater. If OSU can't stop an tight end with 32 yds for the season from triple that including an 87 yard TD, how can it stop better offenses? And better receivers?
OSU's D line & Shazier sometimes look good, but the rest play like empty shirts too often. Anyway, OSU still has tough games to win, including this Saturday, before worrying about this. Let's get the streak to 20!

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

jaxbuckeye's picture

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the odds of winning 50/50?

BuckGuy003's picture

So at first I was feeling a downvote because I thought you were crazy...then by the end I was totally convinced...go big or go home, Go Bucks

Rockhbuck's picture

My post was not about lowering expectations. Nothing in there about what I wanted to see happen or readily accepting failure as you so eloquently stated. I was just saying what I thought was going to happen and my thoughts about that: I think we go undefeated as does two of the teams in front of us and we play in the Rose Bowl.
If that happens, sure I'll be disappointed about not getting a shot at the MNC but I'm ok with that. I think continued dominating wins and an undefeated season by any two of BAMA/Oregon/FSU is more impressive than if we continue to squeak by each week until the end of the season.
If we start raining hellfire on teams instead of surviving, I'll change my tune. 
Am I too critical of us? Probably.
No matter how the year shakes out, you can bet I'll be fully behind my Buckeyes. 

airbuckeye's picture

If everything goes the way we hope and we win out i would rather face Bama than FSU or Oregon only because Bama plays to our stronger points. If it ends up with us against FSu or Oregon and our Defense is still giving up the pass plays it will one hell of a long dam night.
Im not saying with a month to prepare for either FSU or Oregon that we can not beat them because with Urban i think we stand a much better chance. We can score with anyone out there on offense but the pass defense scare the hell out me with the way they are playing right now and Urban needs to find a way to get that fixed.

pjtobin's picture

I just want to win out. To do that we need our d to step it up. We have to many games left to talk about the ncg. I said in the live feed Sat. that if our d didn't improve in the 2nd half we would lose to Iowa. If our d continues to play horrible the three teams ranked above us , would give us fits. I love this team so don't get me wrong. We need to improve. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

BuckeyeUte's picture

I'm with the crowd of focusing on the upcoming game. It is nice to speculate and work it out in are heads but at the end of the year it will all be worked out. The two teams that (deserve) it ---- according to the BCS will play for the MNC. This is the way Urban is looking at it right now. This week we will focus on Penn State and not the games beyond that until they roll up on the schedule. Thinking about all the MNC possibilities would keep my head thinking while I'm trying to sleep --- it's hard to shut it down as it is. LETS JUST WIN!!! GO BUCKS!!!!!
One other observation about the ranking is that I was actually amazed there is so much separation between Bama and FSU... Bama is great but I wasn't expecting that much separation.

BME_Buckeye's picture

Seems about right for us. Tought hill to climb from here. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.


jack's picture

this is exactly why I thought that PSU win over tSUN was only mildly funny; I knew it would cost us in the bcs.  But as usual, and it's always the same story, win 'em all and then bitch if you get screwed.  There's no way a one-loss team would be ahead of us and it is rare that three or more teams go undefeated in a season.  
Win 'em all. End of story.

AJW_16's picture

Just win baby. For the Buckeyes that is the most important thing right now (that and getting the defense squared away). The teams in front of us all have tougher schedules than we do. Oregon seems to always not fare well when punched in the mouth (e.g., 2009 Ohio State, 2010 Auburn, Stanford last year), and look who they have coming up (UCLA, Stanford). FSU looked incredible last week, but let's not forget that we would call it "Florida State-ing" instead of "Clemsoning" if Clemson didn't do it so much.
I'm not worried about Mizzou because they are, ahem, Mizzou. The best case scenario for them is making it to the SEC title game and getting obliterated by Bama.
There's a lot of football to be played. I plan on enjoying it and avoiding the derpy, passive aggressive columns of the likes of Pat Forde, who in one breath says the first BCS poll of the year usually doesn't matter but then spends multiple paragraphs denigrating Ohio State. Stick with 11W, pick up a six pack of your favorite fall beer every Saturday, and hope that the defense gets their shit together. I will say this: given a month to prepare for one game, I'll take Urban over any coach from the top 6 (with the exception of Saban).

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FROMTHE18's picture

OSU needs all but one team to lose in this group (and of course go unbeaten) in order to make it to the title game: Alabama, Oregon, Florida State, Missouri, and maybe even Miami (as Miami would have to beat FSU). Seeing that Missouri and Alabama would play in the SEC title game, theres 1 loss. FSU and Miami play so theres 1 loss dwindling this down to 3 unbeatens in that group. Obviously, of those, 2 would need to lose. So realistically OSU could be 4th behind (in no order): Alabama/Missouri, FSU/Miami, and Oregon. OSU really needs Stanford to beat Oregon. I think as of right now OSU would need to win out (again, obvious) but need an absolute ton of luck. Then again, if Ohio State goes undefeated, wins a conference title, and wins a BCS game, there will be no complaints from me as that would be pretty freakin sweet. Crazy year and Im sure itll get crazier but as far as the 1st BCS release is concerned, mountainous path for the Buckeyes to get to the title game.

Bucksfan's picture

The Huskies could become the only non-automatic qualifier to play in BCS games in consecutive years.

Point of inquiry:  TCU played in the Fiesta Bowl ('10) and Rose Bowl ('11) in consecutive years.

daveyt11's picture

The bottom line is simply we need to get to a true 8 team (6 BCS conference winners and 2 wildcards) Even next year, regardless of rankings we get a panel of people who sit in an office and VOTE who goes...granted the 2 wildcards will be voted in my example but at least you can tell the "team #9" is you should have won your conference. The current system is stupid for several reasons but voting no matter how unbiased coaches and writers claim to be...in a close race for the BCS 1 and 2....a coach can vote his own team #1 to get extra points, a local writer in the HARRIS POLL can vote his favorite team #1 for the same reason. Tressel's 2006 decision to not vote in the coaches poll was simply to not pi$$ off a team that he may have voted against #2, and because he was scared of a rematch with UM....sorry for ranting, I think I am a little older than some of the folks on this site and I never thought I'd live to see the day that the ROSE BOWL was a consolation prize..DT

ChazBuckeye's picture

This shouldn't come as a surprise.  Just be happy OSU wasn't 5th...
Survive and advance...just like in 2002.

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rhutchjr's picture

Just BEAT _ichigan Badly!

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