Report: Texas Regent Talked to Nick Saban's Agent

September 19, 2013 at 4:46p    by DJ Byrnes    
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JOHNNY FOOTBALL LET 'EM OFF THE HOOK

Saban-to-Texas rumors have been with us for some time now, but today came the first report of note in what will likely be a drawn-out affair if Texas continues its nose dive:

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A few days after Alabama won the 2013 national championship, a University of Texas regent and a former regent talked with Nick Saban's agent about the possibility of the Crimson Tide coach replacing Longhorns coach Mack Brown, The Associated Press has learned.

Regent Wallace Hall of Dallas told the AP he spoke by telephone with agent Jimmy Sexton a few days after the Jan. 7 game. Tom Hicks, a former regent who is the brother of current Regent Steve Hicks, also was on the call. Tom Hicks, the former owner of the Texas Rangers, the Dallas Stars and the English professional soccer team Liverpool, was a regent in 1997 when Brown came to Texas and was instrumental in hiring him away from North Carolina.

Two days after the call with Sexton, Tom Hicks met with Brown over lunch and told him about the call, according to several people who spoke with the AP. He asked Brown if he was ready to retire.

SCENE: So, Uh... Mack *pushes food around plate with fork* Uh... *glances side to side* have you put any thought into retirement? Because if not... *Brinks caravan bound for Tuscaloosa files by through the window behind an oblivious Mack Brown*

Every man has his price, and it's assumed Texas has more money than Alabama. It will be interesting to watch how this develops, and if Saban does move, there will be a tsunami of tears in Tuscaloosa.


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AndyVance's picture

So the two questions are: what else does Saban hope to accomplish at Alabama, and how much (more) money does he want to make?
Re: the first, aside from establishing a dynasty and challenging Bear Bryant's legacy as the greatest coach of the Crimson Tide evah, at some point he'll hit the law of diminishing returns and things will trend back toward normal (which is not winning the title every single year). On the second question, it is assumed that Texas can afford to shell out more money than 'Bama, but Bama has proven that it has the cash to give the man what he needs. How big of a difference, for a guy like Saban, is $5.5 million a year vs. $6 million?
According to USA Today's salary database, Mack Brown made $5.35 million last year, with a max bonus possibility of $850k. Saban made $5.48 million, with a max bonus of $700k. How much higher can his ceiling be, really?

Catch 5's picture

First off, I realize that Saban is not devoted to Alabama the way Bear Bryant was, and while his leaving would surprise me greatly, I acknowledge he would leave if something better came along.  That said, he ain't going anywhere.  Yes, Texas has more money and may open up the checkbook and offer $10mil, but I really don't think he cares about the money as much as everyone thinks.  It's the control.  If you have ever really listened to him when he talks about the program and his Process© you will find that it is how the administration, coaches, fans, students, and players all buy into the program.  That means they all do it his way, no ifs, ands or buts.  That is what Bama offered him (along with 4 mil) to get him out of Miami.  That is why you see the new facilities, the expanded stadium, and all the staff he wants.  Yes, Texas is rich - much more than Bama, but they are also proud and won't want to hand over the reins to every facet like he would want.
That, and Miss Terry is happy in Tuscaloosa.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

tennbuckeye19's picture

I don't disagree with your take and I don't think he's going anywhere, but Texas being proud is one thing, but they also want to win. If they think the only way to win is to bring Saban in and he asks for control of everything, they'd be foolish not to give it to him. 

BUCKfutter's picture

All other implications aside, it would be amazing to watch the SEC's collective head explode if their best coach left their best team for another team in another conference.

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

Scott's picture

*Again

Class of 2008

XUbuckeye's picture

If Nicky leaves 'Bama that will be a head scratcher. He's 61 years old, so how many more years does he really have in him?

"So when you get knocked on your butt, get up, get over it, and then next time, kick their ass." - Woody Hayes 

EnlistedBuckeye's picture

As much as I hate little Nicky...that dude has aged well

toad1204's picture

Interesting that the timing of this is after the allegations of players getting cash comes out. 

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

cinserious's picture

Perfect timing if you ask me. I hope the hammer drops on them and Nicky jumps ship to the Big12 for more $$$. Don't take Saban's word for anything when it comes to staying put. His record at LSU and the Dolphins can attest to that. We can all fantasize can't we?
On a side note, I wonder if Saban receives as much fury in 'Bama should he decide to leave as Urban did (still does) in Florida?

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

ih8rolltyde's picture

More. Bama fans are "put you in a padded room" crazy.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

hodge's picture

I can see Texas dropping seven million on Saban--which is realistically what it would take to get him out of Tuscaloosa (maybe six-and-a-half).
Coaching is an arms race, and Texas has the biggest war chest of 'em all.  Their athletic department makes more than any other in the country; a good football team is essential to this--they'd see it as an investment.

cinserious's picture

I agree wholeheartedly with you Hodge.
Imagine the irony of Bear Bryant leaving the state of Texas to establish a powerhouse at Alabama while Saban leaves Alabama to resuscitate a dormant Texas Longhorns program.
Of course the NCAA will drag its feet long enough for 'Bama to re-up Saban's contract enough to keep him put even with sanctions looming.  Who am I kidding, they won't penalize the top SEC team.

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

GoBucksOSU's picture

This would be bad for Alabama but it would balance college football as a whole. Though I can't see Saban leaving bama. With how much money he makes at bama, what more could Texas offer to make his living standard any better?

BTBuckeye's picture

Going to have to have quite a bake sale at Texas to get him. Plus, losing for a year or two when you could have NC's is tough.
Saban isn't going anywhere IMO.

tennbuckeye19's picture

Texas has more money than any athletic department in the country. It wouldn't take a bake sale to get him. That being said, I agree, he's not going anywhere.

labuck's picture

I don't think he would lose for a year.  Its not like the cupboard is bare at Texas they just don't have the right coach(es) leading the program. They're stocked at plenty of positions. I think he would probably win 9 or 10 in year 1.

Buckidelphia's picture

I want Nick Saban to go to Texas, whatever derails the SEC 

ATLBuckeye09's picture

Be Careful what you wish for man. Texas has it all. Whether it be Saban or some other high profile coach that program will be on the rise again and A&M will be 2nd fiddle as they always have. A&M may be on top but trust me Texas rules that state and that state is as deep with $$ and talent as any state in America. Be very careful what you wish for man.

Because they wouldn't let me go for 3!
Woody Hayes 1913-1987

cinserious's picture

Why should any of us care if A&M goes back to 2nd fiddle? If anything its way better than A&M owning that state and adding to the SEC's arrogance.

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

jedkat's picture

don't forget, better taxes in Texas

"I was tired of trying to work my way around the back, so I just ran him over"

~ Joey Bosa

cal3713's picture

I just can't see Saban leaving.  I always had the impression he just wanted to be somewhere with resources that would let him have complete control.  I doubt he'll ever have more control than Bama gives him.  

AndyVance's picture

So here's the over/under question: aside from Saban staying at 'Bama, which is the more likely event - Saban to Texas, or Saban retiring in the next 3-5 years?
Follow up question: If Saban stays, how many years does he have left in him at this point?

cajunbuckeye's picture

Sabans' Alabama contract runs to 2020.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

ATLBuckeye09's picture

Contracts are made to be broken. You think Saban is stupid enough to have his butt locked down 100% for the next 7 yrs. Not that control freak man!

Because they wouldn't let me go for 3!
Woody Hayes 1913-1987

Catch 5's picture

Yes, but it should be noted that Saban has no buy-out.  He is free to leave anytime he wants with no penalty.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

tennbuckeye19's picture

I had a thought not related to Saban or Texas: Just think, if Iowa is willing to pay Kirk Ferentz a buttload of coin to be horrible to the point where he's just stealing money, I wonder how much bread they'd be willing to toss at a coach that doesn't smell like Limburger. 

cinserious's picture

Iowa will NEVER have the monetary or h.s talent resources to pull a guy of Saban's caliber. Plus historically speaking, Iowa  is s--t!

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

45OH4IO's picture

Les Miles was going to be the head coach for Michigan....how'd that turn out? (Sad trombones).
Same situation here.

jenks's picture

I don't think Saban leaves either. Of course that begs the question, if not Saban, then who?

Scott's picture

Actually that doesn't beg the question.
*Downvotes self, leaves*

Class of 2008

jenks's picture

I love grammar girl. I'd upvote if I could.

buckeyenut10's picture

This conversation was from January. Keep that in mind when milling this over.

FROMTHE18's picture

I think Charlie Strong will be Option #2 if Saban is a no.

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

"SABAN BOLTS FOR TEXAS AFTER OHIO STATE UPENDS ALABAMA 31-21 IN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME" ... Hey, it could happen.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

"SABAN BOLTS FOR CLEVELAND AFTER OHIO STATE UPENDS ALABAMA 31-21 IN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME" ... Hey, it could happen.
Fixed it for ya.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Buckeye Beast's picture

I keep reading here that nobody seems to think Texas would give Nick Saban complete control, I disagree with that. I honestly believe that if there was a way to do so, they would give him even more control than Bama. He's won 4 National Titles, keep in mind that Texas has 4 recognized National Titles in their entire history. (They've claimed 9, but we all know who won in 2008) At this point, just about any program in the country would jump at the chance to hire him with the exception of us, LSU, Oregon, Oklahoma & maybe a few others. And Texas has so many reasons to make this move as well. Mack Brown has fallen off, & they keep getting beaten by Oklahoma.. consistently. And could they really handle the idea of Texas A&M becoming the premier football program in the state? Because based on the plan to expand Kyle Field, I think that's what A&M has in mind. One could also argue that Saban coaches the historically preferred Texas Longhorns brand of football: Strong defense, and a great, power running game. And on Saban's part, yes Texas does have more money to offer him & his chosen staff. And Texas is still the only state with better high school football talent than the state of Florida. His recruiting base would be the biggest football hotbed in the country, & Austin Texas has more national appeal than Tuscaloosa. (They're pretty much the southern Columbus). Keeping in mind that a meeting between representatives from both sides actually took place, & that Nick Saban has previously bailed on the Dolphins, LSU, Michigan State, & Toledo, I do think that there is legitimate interest on both sides. He might not leave, but expect Texas to make a move. They have all the resources & reasons to do so.
Sorry for the long post

It's 5 o'clock somewhere, & Michigan still sucks

Buckeye Beast's picture

And I know that some of you may be thinking that Florida has passed Texas as the best high school football state, but I disagree. Robert Griffin, Johnny Manziel, Andrew Luck, & a whole lot of great players come from there. Oklahoma, Nebraska, TCU, Texas, Texas A&M, & other Big 12 Schools stay afloat on Texas talent. And who doesn't love Dontre Wilson & Kenny G?

It's 5 o'clock somewhere, & Michigan still sucks

cinserious's picture

Forget the Big12. How many Pac12 and SEC teams make part of their living feasting on Texas talent?

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

vitaminB's picture

Do you think Saban would enjoy the level of access afforded to the Longhorn Network?  That doesn't sound like control to me.

German Buckeye's picture

If Oregon and Bama don't lose the rest of the way, we won't get the chance, regardless if we run the table and are 25-0 counting last season.  I just don't think the BCS computers will push us ahead of an undefeated Oregon.  I hope I am wrong though.

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

I personally think Washington, UCLA or Stanford could beat Oregon. I honestly think OSU has a better shot at remaining undefeated as opposed to Oregon. Obviously, I'm a little bias as I'm a diehard OSU fan, but don't count out the difficulty of the PAC-12 this year. There's some legit football squads there.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

Buckeyeneer's picture

Nicky Satan finally feels at home. You hear that wailing and nashing of teeth comin out of Tuscaloosa?

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

THE Ohio State University

FitzBuck's picture

It would be so great if all athletic departments in the SEC went the same way as Tennessee.  Massive debt unable to afford or keep top tier coaches.  We would see the reversal of what drove their success.  The best coaches heading south for more money.  Think about it The future equivalent of Les Miles wouldn't leave OSU, Saben at MSU, Meyer at Utah etc.  SEC please go freaking crazy and dance to your death.  

Fitzbuck | Toledo - Ohio's right armpit | "A troll by any other name is still a troll".

jaxbuckeye's picture

I could DEFINITELY see this happening.  I have no doubt that Texas would give him the keys to the castle.  They let Brown operate like a CEO so why would they NOT let the top coach in college football have free reign?  Second, what better way to prove it's all about him, not the school, then to go somewhere else and win big.  National titles at LSU, Bama, and Texas would pretty much cement him as the greatest coach ever.  Also, he would have his pick of probably the richest football state in the nation.  Not only would he still get all the national recruits that he always gets but he would likely get every recruit in Texas.  Finally, Texas would gladly pay him $10M a year.  Factor all of those and I could definitely see this happening.

Knarcisi's picture

Don't think this happens, but Texas needs someone with toughness.  Their problem is right now is that they are cream puff soft. 

D. Anthony's picture

People who don't think Saban would go don't know his past. Getting more money, with virtually all the recruits you need in state and getting out of living in Alabama is not hard to fathom at all. Austin is a great city, he could win quickly and make more history (further boosting a huge ego) by winning a NC at an unheard of 3rd university.
There's nothing left to prove in Bama and people thought he's never go there because he likes living in bigger/more cultured cities. He may not go, but nobody should be surprised if he does.

D. Anthony

ODEEZ330's picture

Saban at texas would be crazy. That's a scary match for the rest of the country

O'Deez330
stark county football

cinserious's picture

Almost as scary as Urban Freakin' Meyer at a place like The Ohio State University. 

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

buckskin's picture

Saban could go.  He left for the NFL, so he's looking for bigger things.  Since that didn't work out and he has nothing left to prove at Bama, I could see it happening.  Agreed with the post above, he isn't all Bama like the Bear.  I could see him going just as a challenge to bring another program back. 

Catch 5's picture

To be honest, that is the thing that scares me the most in this.  Saban really likes building.  He has said before that he enjoys that more than sustaining - or at least that it is harder to sustain than to build so I can see him going somewhere like Texas just to build it back up before I see him going for the money.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

ATLBuckeye09's picture

Be Careful what you wish for man. Texas has it all. Whether it be Saban or some other high profile coach that program will be on the rise again and A&M will be 2nd fiddle as they always have. A&M may be on top but trust me Texas rules that state and that state is as deep with $$ and talent as any state in America. Be very careful what you wish for man.

Because they wouldn't let me go for 3!
Woody Hayes 1913-1987

gobucks96's picture

Don't discount the smoke of agents paying players and the constant scandals around Bama right now either. Not saying it's true, but I bet Saban knows more about it than we do...

Catch 5's picture

Agents chase talent, and talent follows Saban.  He's not getting away from that wherever he goes at this point. 
Be careful how you view the situation at Bama right now - with the talent Meyer is bringing in, these same agents will be clawing at your guys soon enough (more than they probably already are).  It only takes one that is willing to take their cash to create a scandal.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

cinserious's picture


BREAKING NEWS: TEXAS REGENT TALKED TO NICK SABAN'S AGENT...IN A STRIP CLUB?
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A few days after Alabama won the 2013 national championship, a University of Texas regent and a former regent talked with Nick Saban's agent at Luigi's Sexclubseven in downtown Austin about's  the possibility of the Crimson Tide coach replacing Longhorns coach Mack Brown, The Associated Press has learned.
Regent Wallace Hall of Dallas told the AP he met with agent Jimmy Sexton at the club a few days after the Jan. 7 game. Tom Hicks, a former regent who is the brother of current Regent Steve Hicks, also was also there but mostly in the VIP room. Tom Hicks, the former owner of the Texas Rangers, the Dallas Stars and the English professional soccer team Liverpool, was a regent in 1997 when Brown came to Texas and was instrumental in hiring him away from North Carolina.
Two days after the debaucherous night with Sexton, Tom Hicks met with Brown over lunch and told him about the 'adventure', according to several people who spoke with the AP. He asked Brown if he was ready to retire.
 
 
 
 

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

ChazBuckeye's picture

If Texas finishes under or close to .500 again, then Mack "retires" as indicated above.  Saban hired at Texas after or before the bowl game.  Which if you're a Buckeye fan, this could be good for us.  You may ask yourself why?  Well, an Alabama team with Smart as the HC is MUCH different than Saban (that's assuming they end up in the NC as well as OSU).  However, if you look at the records of teams who have had an interim coach in bowl games, it's not too good for those teams.  Let's hope this comes to fruition.  I also could still see little Nickey Satan coaching in the NC after being hired by TX no matter what they offer (I'm guessing $6 mill a year for 4 years with incentives).

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

Catch 5's picture

Saban's current salary is over $5 mill now.  Incentives put it close to 6 I believe, so Texas is going to have to jump much higher if they are going to pull him away.  You've got to believe that Bama will match at least a couple more so if Tx wants to make it a interesting, they will have to approach $10 mill before I get nervous.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

ChazBuckeye's picture

Ok, 11mill;-)  I'm messing.  
I really don't think it will happen if Bama even sniffs the NC again. Which I really think with their schedule, they'll probably end up there again (unless Ole Miss and/or LSU can trip them up, or whomever they end up playing in the SEC CG).  I can't see Satan leaving the monster he's created there in Tuscaloosa unless Texas pays him a truck load.   

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

tussey's picture

If Bama gets shut out of the Nat Champ game, I think that he leaves for Texas.  However if they are in the game I think he would be way more inclined to stay, especially if they win.  That being said, Texas can pay him more and his recruiting would get even better.  Texas already recruits itself and then add Saban's national prowess.  

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

I don't see a 61 year old coach leaving one powerhouse to build another. Money aside, I think if he ever left Alabama it would be for an NFL gig with total backing and support from ownership. I'm all for him returning to Cleveland. 

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.