Brady Hoke: 8-5 for Michigan is "Unacceptable."

By DJ Byrnes on July 24, 2013 at 12:45p


Brady Hoke was not pleased with 8-5 last year, calling it unacceptable. He noted turnovers were a big problem with his team, and something that he keyed on. "I normally don't say this," he added, "but I really like this [2013] team."

Yet, it was these comments about the pride in his team that raised some eyebrows:

... Fair play to Hoke, however, who said he was "glad" when he heard Grant Reed, the cancer-stricken boy who named his tumor "Michigan" and beat it. (Hoke went on to offer him four tickets to the OSU-Michigan game.)

... Hoke also said Michigan "looked around" for a backup quarterback, but didn't feel comfortable enough bringing anybody in to back-up Devin Gardner. He said he felt "very good" about the back-up position should anything happen.

... He also didn't deny Devin Gardner being a better "pro-style" quarterback than Dernard Robinson. He said Devin's height helps him, he spins a tighter ball, and also has the dual-threat ability.

... Michigan is "pulling for Detroit."

... Hoke is "very excited" about Jake Ryan's rehabilitation progress. Says he could return "sometime in October."

... Brady Hoke puts "a lot of effort" into recruiting the state of Michigan. "The high school coaching is very good; the caliber of the athletes we really like. They understand playing at the University of Michigan. Always an important part of recruiting."

... Hoke says the goal every week is to get better in a question about their loaded November schedule. "We've got a great schedule."


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BuckeyeChief's picture

I don't think it was a shot.

"2014 National with it!!!"

AndyVance's picture

I agree - it may have come off as a little tone deaf, but I think everyone who talks about their players' being great off the field today probably sounds like they're taking a shot at Ohio State.

hodge's picture

I don't either.  I really doubt that he'd fan the flames like that--doesn't seem his style.  Granted, it's entirely plausible that the recent troubles with OSU players this offseason made him realize how well his guys have conducted themselves, but I don't think he meant it as an indictment of OSU at all.

buckeyeEddie27's picture

I personally don't see it.  Coaches say good things about their kids when bad things are going on with other schools.  Just praising his guys, not slighting others.  imo

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

AndyVance's picture

... He also didn't deny Denard Robinson Devin Gardner being a better "pro-style" quarterback than Dernard Robinson. He said Devin's height helps him, he spins a tighter ball, and also has the dual-threat ability.

Fixed it - brain probably thinking faster than fingers typing.

steensn's picture

Accept he tried to make Devin a WR...

hail2victors9's picture

Except he tried to utilize Devin's athleticism as a WR (a weak position group) instead of him being a cheerleader on the sideline...


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~Bo Schembechler

Hovenaut's picture

The only thing I take issue with here is Hoke stating their record last year was unacceptable.

I was perfectly fine with it, especially the loss in late November. I'd like to see more of the same.

Idaho Helga's picture

8-5 IS unacceptable for TTUN.  This years goal is 9-4!

rekrul's picture

How about 11-2 this year?  Both losses to tOSU?  Would love to kill your good season not once but twice on back to back weeks.  Talk about a long off season.  

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BierStube's picture

I agree not a shot by Hoke, but it is funny how he makes a point to say he "likes the way his players have represented the university off the field."  Maybe if they would represent the university better on the field, they would not be 8-5!

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

He forgot about Frank Clark.

Oyster's picture

And Campbell 'tripping over a curb onto a car' and Stonum's issues with drinking and driving, and driving under a suspended license.  Bottom line, every school has issues with their players.  Always have, always will. 

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Didn't sound like a shot to me.  Could be that he's just happy about his players' off the field behavior...apparently nobody stole any laptops or drove drunk this offseason.

Class of 2010.

GoBucks713's picture

"Continuing the precedent set by Rich Rodriguez, 8-5 is much too good of a record. We are aiming for a 3 to 5 win season, and feel that this team would be over achieving if we hit the high end of that range"  - Brady Hoke

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BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

Brady Hoke: 8-5 for Michigan is "Unacceptable."

Unacceptable... but likely.

blueinsconsin's picture

fail to see the "subtle dig" in Hoke's quotes.  

Not here to troll...Go Blue

rider1's picture

good news re: Jake Ryan. Glad to hear it!

BABuckeye's picture

Yeah, good kid from good family...just playing for the wrong team!

Buckabroad's picture

Agreed. Good kid. I wish him a full and speedy recovery.

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

northcampus's picture

It is a desperate attempt by the writer to stir up interest in his tweet. Definitely not a shot at OSU. However, it's laughable that Hoke is proud of his team off the field after Clark, Campbell, and some of the other characters he kept on the squad after they went through issues off the field. Zero issues is something to be proud of, not only 'a few' issues.
i will give him credit for reaching out to the sick kid. That was a solid move on Hoke's part. OSU will still win by 2 TD's vs UM though come November.

Dougger's picture

I don't think desperate is the right term to use for Kyle here. He reports what he hears - it could be the tone in which he said it that made him tweet that. Just reading it on paper though doesn't make me think it's a dig at the better team down south. (us) ((The Ohio State University))

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hail2victors9's picture

There haven't been any off-the-field issues since just before the bowl game.  I think he's referring to team 134 here.

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~Bo Schembechler

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I'm also glad that he thinks 8-5 is unacceptable.  Because, quite frankly, I think there's a lot of B1G teams that would be happy with 8-5, and that's not a good thing.

Class of 2010.

pjtobin's picture

A #5 , a #8 , and a #9 to go. All large. With diet cokes. Anyone else hungry? Just a 8&5 are unacceptable. I need more. 

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Haybucks's picture

If Hoke wasn't asked to comment about his guys' off-the-field behavior, then it was a subtle dig. Why would Hoke even bother bringing up his players' off-the-field representation if it didn't have something to do with the current situation at tOSU?  I don't buy it.  It was a dig that can't be proven much like a backhanded compliment.  “He's a nice guy, for a Michigan man.”

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Haybucks's picture

I like the "Michigan is "Unacceptable"" portion of this forum's title.

If the world comes to an end, I want to be in Cincinnati. Everything comes there ten years later. -  Mark Twain


carton's picture

The best season he ever had as HC is what?
Without googling I guess his best record is right around that 8-5 mark.

Poison nuts's picture

Well, he went 10-2 last year...

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hail2victors9's picture

Also 12-0 regular season at Ball State before losing the CG and Bowl.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!

~Bo Schembechler

gobucks96's picture

I wouldn't complain too much. 2 first downs (one by Northwestern and Michigan state) and he was 6-7..