Ray Small Arrested Again, Could Face 33 Years Behind Bars

July 12, 2013 at 8:31a    by Jason Priestas    
129 Comments
Ray Small is not making good decisions.

Remember that rambling apology Ray Small recorded for his coaches, teammates and fans of Ohio State? Well, it makes a little more sense now.

Small recorded the apology a few weeks after Columbus Police raided his apartment and found drugs and guns. Small wasn't there at the time, but the long arm of the law caught up with him last night.

Ray Small, former Buckeye wide receiver from 2006-2009, was arrested last night in Franklin County. A Franklin County Grand Jury had indicted Small on narcotics trafficking and drug possession charges, including a firearm specification.

According to the Franklin County prosecutor, Ron O'Brien, Columbus Police raided Small's Ferris Road apartment in April and found drugs and guns. Officials say they seized nearly $4,500 in cash, digital scales used in weighing drugs, over 400 Oxycodone and Alprazolam (Xanax) pills, and heroin.

Along with the pills, police also recovered a .380 semi-automatic handgun and an SKS assault rifle.

According to the prosecutor, Small no longer lives at the apartment, but a Detroit, Michigan man, Anthony Jones, was in the apartment at the time of the raid and was also included in the indictment with charges of trafficking and possession of Oxycodone.

The kicker: Small was already out on bond, awaiting a trial in Meigs County where he was arrested and charged with a felony drug offense for transporting large quantities of Oxycodone.

Franklin County prosecutor, Ron O'Brien, is saying Small could face up to 33 years in prison.

Terrible.


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buckeye1129's picture

As a lawyer you must know how grim this looks with two unregistered firearms found at the same location as a distribution amount of felony drugs, especially highly scheduled prescription pills.  I took Criminal Law 206 and 207 last year (getting JD) and if the guy at the apartment turns State's Witness, Ray Small is gonna be in a world of hurt. 33 years could easily mean serving 10-15 years before parole, but these offenses have significan mandatory minimums in every state and federally as well.  I think he is looking at 20-25 years minimum.  Poor kid.  He should have kept his nose to the grindstone and should be making his money pushing around pro football players, not pushing drugs.

Nick's picture

mandatory minimums are terrrrrible

buckeye1129's picture

And racist.  I have no doubt that crack is a terrible substace, but there was no reason to raise the mandatory minimum for distribution of crack cocaine to 5 years when no other drug was even at 2 years at the time if I recall correctly.  Plain and simple truth is that lawmakers were targeting the large African American population who was using and selling crack in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

buckeye1129's picture

Is this a question about something we said, or a rebuttal? haha im sorry man I can't tell without knowing your inflection. 

OSUNeedles's picture

I am always sad when I see stories like these. Small's issues always seemed to stem from the fact that he was entitled and selfish and he was never able to understand that if he humbled himself and followed other people's advice he might have a better life. All you have to do is bust your ass, be respectful, and play hard and this city will take care of you for many years if you were part of the football program... Too bad more of these troubled young guys can't escape their own attitudes.

USDA Choice Buck Steak's picture

Never could forgive him for turning on JT the way he did.
 
This story was just a matter of time.

Fugelere's picture

Terrible is right.  Really just a damn shame.

btalbert25's picture

Can't say I'm surprised.  Not to pile on the guy when he's down, but he is easily my least favorite Buckeye of all time. 

droessl's picture

Least favorite of all time, eh? Where does Steve Bellisari appear on that list?

btalbert25's picture

I don't really have a list, just never liked Ray Small.  I really feel they let him keep getting away with all his BS because he had the potential to be one of the best WR in college football.  If he were a lesser talent they would of never let him stick around so long.  It pissed me off that he was wasting a scholarship that some kid out there would die to have, and it made me even more mad that the staff kept giving him chances over and again. 

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Ray Small is a flat out criminal.  Steve Bellisari simply sucked at football.  Big difference. 
And yes, I know Bellisari got a DUI.  Not on the same level as Small.

Class of 2010.

Buckeyeneer's picture

Some might say that Steve Bellisari was a legacy scholly because of his brother, Greg.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University

luckynutz's picture

Keep in mind bellisari was actually a highly recruited safety coming out of high school. Which is what he was recruited as by ohio state. Then the qb spot was wide open...he had to beat out austin moherman right? If only they left him where he was better suited, he may be talked about in a different way by us fa s.

droessl's picture

Oh, I know. There's certainly different criteria for "least favorite." I wasn't trying to compare their off the field infractions; merely naming a Buckeye who I don't remember fondly. 

Buckeyeneer's picture

That's fair. He could not get out of here quick enough. His legacy got a nice bump in my opinion after the reign of Bauserman.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University

buckeye1129's picture

A DUI compared to this list of charges is like a bee sting compared to a bullet wound.

droessl's picture

Tressel's dog house is a LOT better than the big house. And by "big house" I mean prison, not that hell hole in AA. 

SPreston2001's picture

Once a Buckeye, ALWAYS a Buckeye. I'll pray for the kid and hope everything turns out ok....

Becool12's picture

True, but at times, I wish we could hide this one behind all the other buckeyes so he couldn't be noticed. 

btalbert25's picture

Isn't being a Buckeye more than just being on the team though?  I never felt he understood or embraced what it meant to be a Buckeye.  

andyb's picture

Very well said BTALBERT25....it's more than just the name on your Uniform and that you were pretty good a playing a game...Being a Buckeye is how you carry yourself in life, and making sure you do things the right way..In my opinion Small never really was a true buckeye and I would like to just forget he ever spent time in the S&G...nobody is perfect but from all accounts he's used up his 9 lives 10X over.

cinserious's picture

Are you willing to wait 33 years for everything to turn out ok?  I'm not. Lets just vacate him from Buckeye history the same way the NCAA vacated our 2010 12-1 season, B1G championship, victory over TTUN, and sugar bowl victory over that team called the SEC. 

Gone ham, be back soon...

SPreston2001's picture

Nope, you dont turn your back on your brothers especially during a time of need. Besides he hasnt been convicted of anything yet. I in no way support what he was doing and feel like he should in fact be punished if these allegations are true, but hoping and wishing bad upon a former Buckeye is a little overboard IMO.  

USMC11917's picture

I don't know what you expect for him to be considered ok. If you mean that the charges get thrown out and he gets off, then I say not me. I think what will best affect him is if he does some time (If guilty) and has time to rehabilitate. He doesn't need another pass in his life. Hope that doesn't sound like a snarky rebuttal, just disappointed in him really.  

SPreston2001's picture

Oh no im not saying he should get a pass if in fact he's guilty. Im more so saying I hope the guy can figure it out and get his life turned around....

sox33osu's picture

Once a Buckeye, ALWAYS a Buckeye. I'll pray for the kid and hope everything turns out ok....

 
I couldn't disagree with you more. Being a Buckeye is a privilege, not a right. He had a truly rare opportunity, and he didn't care about it. He had a lazy, disrespectful attitude, he blamed others for his own shortcomings, and now this? In my opinion, I don't associate guy like this with Buckeye Nation. He used to be a member, but his own selfishness and foolishness has cost him his spot. Buckeye Nation is comprised of men and women with respect, honor, and a sense of duty to represent us in the most positive light. Small has done the exact opposite. It is sad, yes, but I do not want someone like him free in society. 

SPreston2001's picture

Well honestly your entitled to your opinion and im entitled to mine. I dont wish this kind of hardship on anybody and considering he was once part of Buckeye Nation im not going to turn my back on the kid and wish bad things upon him. Yes he was a troubled individual but we dont know what may have been going on in his life to make him make these poor decisions. Its easy to kick a person while they're down but im going to pray for the guy and hope he can someday turn his life around. I was always taught not to turn your back on someone during a time of need. I wonder how you would feel about him had he been a standout player while at OSU... 

luckynutz's picture

His own teammates basically disowned him after his interview with the lantern during tatgate. Those were supposed to be his brothers...and he takes the opportunity not to stand with them and weather the storm. He threw tress, the university and his teammates under the bus. So i agree with what you're saying. Its been shown over time if you are part of the brotherhood, your fellow buckeye brothers will stand with you. Look at clarett...he did some pretty ridiculous things. He never threw his brothers or coach under the bus. And he's turned things around...and is welcomed by his buckeye brothers with open arms. That in itself is the biggest indictment of the character of ray small. When his teammates made sure to let it be known he was no buckeye.

SPreston2001's picture

Clarett had some bad words for OSU when he was going through his tough times....

luckynutz's picture

I understand that. Heres a question for you though...did it come at a time his coach and the program were already under heavy fire from the media and the ncaa? Claretts comments came out of anger due to the circumstances he created for himself. I don't know why ray small said what he said when he said it. All I know is caused even more grief, more accusations and more players being wrongly included in the investigation. Maybe he didn't think that would happen...I don't know. But the timing, the comments and the reaction from his teammates show it was more about ray small getting his 15 minutes than him trying to be open and honest. Tressel didn't deserve to have a kid he tried so hard with put a knife between his shoulders blades like that.

I don't wish bad things upon anyone. But I also can't be sympathetic to someone who has continuously shown no regard for people who gave him every chance to get right. I understand why you feel the way you do. This is just an explanation of whh I feel differently. That being said, I hope for his sake he can take inventory of his mistakes, own them, and find a way to get his life together.

droessl's picture

Anyone else think the word "jail" in the picture looks like it's from the set of a late 1970's SNL skit? 

buckeye1129's picture

Ha yeah it looks almost comical.  Too bad for Ray those cement walls and stupid signs will be his life for about his second 25 years on earth. I can't believe it.  A Buckeye most likely being sentenced to as many years as he has been alive, or more.  I never would have imagined.
Let alone one of JT's kids!

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Prepare for articles from Bristol blaming Jim Tressel for all of this................

Unky Buck's picture

Are you positive this wasn't Urban's fault?

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Dr. House's picture

some how i get the feeling it will be a combination of urb, tress, and gee. 
 terribly sad for small once a buckeye always a buckeye still stands  but in no way do buckeyes have to associate with him. he is a grown man who made terrible choices and now he must live with them. i am sure JT will visit him in whatever joint he ends up with him to still try to turn his life around.

Hovenaut's picture

I made a jab regarding the apology video in the forum post, but in all seriousness this is a real shame.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

BierStube's picture

Ray was given multiple opportunities (some might say  too many).  There is no denying he has/had talent.  Feel free to correct me, but I believe he averaged over 20 yards per punt return.  He did leave the bridges burning on his way out the door, but he is a Buckeye.  As it was or is with Mo Clarett, it is now up to Ray to make his own future.

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

TheShookster's picture

It's kind of been downhill ever since that hit he took against Minnesota. A sad waste of talent indeed, hopefully he can turn things around someday

niblick's picture

i was at that game.  loudest and nastiest hit I have ever seen.  i dont know how it sounded on tv but live it was so bad that when it happened my first thought was "there's no way he isn't severely injured".  If anyone, God forbid, would ever die on a football field from a single hit, it would have been that one.

droessl's picture

Had the same reaction when I saw that hit. Honestly didn't think he was going to get up. Whenever I hear/read Ray Small's name, I think of that hit. 

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Oh yes. I was sitting right there about 5 rows up where that happened. The best seats I've ever had in the shoe, and the loudest THUD I've ever heard from a hit. Dom Barber I believe was the guy who hit him.  It was nasty.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

cinserious's picture

I believe it was Illinois that laid the hit on him, and that image is the first thing conjured up when I hear his name. The criminal activity/Tressel doghouse comes second.

Gone ham, be back soon...

droessl's picture

I didn't want to have to post this, but it was Minnesota: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wL-4aYmMGk

FROMTHE18's picture

ESPN Headline to read: "Ex-Buckeye Small arrested; Meyer, Gee held responsible, owe apology to World"

cinserious's picture

Why isn't anybody putting the blame where it really belongs? Gene Smith. I mean, he was the AD during Ray Small's time at OSU.

Gone ham, be back soon...

sox33osu's picture

Because Gene Smith isn't at fault! I hate this sort of rationale. Small is a grown man. The blame lies on him and him alone. He made his bed. Gene Smith didn't give him the drugs and guns, he sought them out. Do you have any idea how many athletes Gene Smith oversees in a 4-year period? You're trying to say he's responsible for the character and actions of all of them?? Come on, man. That is horrible.

cinserious's picture

I know how ridiculous it sounds. Thats why I said it in jest.

Gone ham, be back soon...

bucknasty13's picture

What kind of environment did JT establish at Ohio State that could make a former football player do this?  JT is to blame!

umbyosu's picture

The whole Ginn family as well - perhaps Small's 1st grade teacher should have done more to prevent this from happening!

DefendYoungstown's picture

Seriously (BUCKNASTY13)??? This is one out of how many players from the JT era, two if you count Clarett (who has changed his life for the better).  SMH...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

Unky Buck's picture

Italicized font = sarcasm. Learn it, live it, love it.

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osu07asu10's picture

I'm curious if George Dohrmann or any of the hacks that used this "credible" source in their articles have even the slightest bit of pause, at all

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

dubjayfootball90's picture

Well, It is a crappy situation for him, BUT if you are messing around with drugs in the quantities he has and engaging in illegal activities such as these, then its minimal sympathy from me. Where were those drugs going? Friends? Acquaintances? Youth? School Children? Can't really feel sorry for someone profiting off of something like that.
I am not going to rant about this. It is a terrible situation to happen to anyone, let alone a former Buckeye, but he needs to straighten his life out NOW. Hopefully a jail sentence will do that. More than likely it won't because jail is not the great rehabilitation center that many think it is. 
Just terrible.

Unky Buck's picture

I'm not overly shocked by any of this. I don't have much sympathy for him like DubJay considering what he was involved in. Hopefully he can use this experience and get things right in his head. He may be away for awhile, so turning it into a positive will be a tough thing to do, but weirder things have happened.

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btalbert25's picture

He has to want to turn things around.  You know MoC had a real determination and workman's approach to things, so I'm not shocked he committed himself to turning around changing his life.  Ray always seemed lazy and like he just never gave a crap about anything.  I'm not sure he has it in him to turn his life around because it would mean actually committing to something and working hard. 

Unky Buck's picture

I definitely agree with that. There still has to be some determination to want to change things around. But let's be honest, MoC didn't exactly seem like he wanted to either when all of his stuff went down. It's been in the makings since his release. The difference here, and I was originally going to put that in my original post, so thanks for bring it up, is that MoC's time in prison in the long run wasn't that long. If Ray ends up in jail for 33 years, will it happen for him? I'm not going to put money on it, but, again, stranger things have happened.

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IBleedSandG's picture

Jeesh. Oxy, Xanax, heroin and an assault rifle. Hopefully prison does him some good.

We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from O-HI-O!

buckeye1129's picture

Haha I wish, but we have a pretty dismal recidivism rate in this country, so I doubt prison will set him straight.

Michibuck's picture

Hoping that Urban will be a little more of a hard-nosed disciplinarian. Instead of a dog house, an outhouse, as in OUT. Also, in recruiting, putting a higher emphasis on character issues, which he seems to be doing. But only time will tell, after the players have been in the program 3,4,5 years.

Bags5150's picture

ESPN should be camped out on jt's doorstep waiting for him to say its all his fault.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth~Mike Tyson

Bolt's picture

Ray Small Arrested Again, Could Face 33 Years Behind Bars; Florida media rushes to blame Urban Meyer.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Not very surprised by this...very sad situation.  I don't wish bad things on any former Buckeye, but this guy just doesn't learn and deserves some serious jailtime.

Class of 2010.

captain obvious's picture

sad story
its never too late to turn it around

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

hit_the_couch's picture

He really has hit rock bottom if he's living on Ferris rd. What a hellhole.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

acBuckeye's picture

Why is everyone saying this is Urban Meyer's fault? Clearly Jim Tressel is to blame here.

chitown buckeye's picture

Urban Meyer is the clear one to blame, not JT. Urban should have looked at troubled past players when he took the job. He should have reached out to guys like Small and taken them under his wing to help mentor this adult. Sometimes I just get so angry we have a coach as inconsiderate as Meyer.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

Cincinnati Mac's picture

"a Detroit, Michigan man, Anthony Jones, was in the apartment at the time of the raid and was also included in the indictment with charges of trafficking and possession of Oxycodone."
 
This is why you don't hang out with people from that state who's name I dare not mention.

ATT2121's picture

I stuck up for Ray in the apology thread and I would do it again, but there comes a time when actions speak louder than words. I hope he uses the time he's facing to turn his life around. My thoughts and prayers are with him.

 
 

"It all goes so fast, and character makes the difference when it's close."
Jesse Owens
 

buckeye1129's picture

With the current sentencing laws in place, there might not be too much of his life left after prison to change around.  It only makes it worse that he was out on bond.

Buckidelphia's picture

I wonder if TJ Downing was Ray Small's host on his recruiting visit. 

William's picture

1) The SKS isn't an assault rifle. Semi-automatic carbine, big difference. 
2) I don't really care about drugs/drug charges, the fact that they're illegal is silly. 
3) Even though I don't have a problem with any of the things Small possessed, he sure is on the fast-track to ruining his life for good. 

cinserious's picture

How can you not have a problem with trafficking prescription drugs like OXYs or Xanax? Do you know how many teens have a serious drug problem because of that shit? I hate the pushers (which include many 'doctors' at so-called pain clinics), hate the drivers who go to Florida and bring that trash up to Ohio, hate the users who lie and steal from their own family members to support the habit. There is alot to have a problem with. The vikes, percs, oxys, xanax all contribute to societal ills. When these teens cant get their hands on the pills, they move on to heroin!

Gone ham, be back soon...

William's picture

Why should it matter if they consume those drugs? That's their choice, and it isn't my place, or anyone else's to tell them what they can, and can't consume. Alcohol is far more dangerous than a lot of 'illegal' drugs, but people consume it all the time... 

USMC11917's picture

Go take a shot of tequila and then a hit of Heroine/Meth. Come back and tell me which is more addictive. Probably wont because you will have sold your phone/computer/unpaid Internet. Addicts have very little control over their choices when they are strung out. Lose a loved one to the bad choice of an addict and I imagine your tune would change.

buckeye1129's picture

Also I have lost a cousin to a heroin and pill overdose, and have lost two of my best friends to shooting up drugs.  That is the reason for my viewpoint on this.

William's picture

It doesn't matter if I've lost family to drugs or not (I have), it isn't my place, or yours to tell them what they can and can't consume. It's that simple. 

buckeye1129's picture

Or we could do it fairly and say go take a shot of tequila, then go EAT a dosage of meth or heroin.  If he shot up tequila, which has actually been done before, i would guarantee it would be VERY addictive.

buckeye1129's picture

If we look at how when Portugal legalized druge in 2000 they're crime and addiction rates have been dropping every year since, then you're point on drugs might be valid.  Also, if drugs were legal he wouldn't be in a position where he would be selling those pills, because the government would regulate their sales, not dangerous drug dealers on the street.
Where you lose me is the guns.  Small seemed like a mentally unstable individual.  Unstable individuals tend to have anger issues, which lead to violent acts against others.  If somebody like that has a gun when they get angry...well, you do the math.

USMC11917's picture

Wow, drugs are ok and guns are soo bad....is this real life?

buckeye1129's picture

Drugs are bad, but people killing each other over drug selling territory and drug cartels literally running entire countries and scaring the shit out of their citizens is what is truly soo bad.

buckeye1129's picture

If the government developed a respectable program to help treat addiction through regulation of dosage and control of the purity of the drugs, it would be much easier for addicts to see a way out of their plight.  Home invasions and car break ins would decrease exponentially, gangs who deal completely in drugs would be wiped out and financially ruined, the murder rate would drastically drop, the government would stop spending over ONE TRILLION dollars of tax money on the Drug War, and the addiction rates might go down if:
1) The government regulates and provides drugs to addicts, while also putting them on a taper program, and possibly providing psychological treatment.
2) Many recreational users might simply stop using for fear of being labeled a drug user.
The track record of such programs is stellar throughout Europe (Portugal, Holland, Norway I think, etc)

USMC11917's picture

Yep regulation really works for those folks at the Methodone clinics.   I also don't think we need the government to control anything else thank you. They obviously have enough to keep them busy.

buckeye1129's picture

This is completely different from Methadone.  The withdrawal from Methadone actually lasts up to two months long while that of heroin lasts two weeks maximum because of the massive difference in their half lives.  So, when the understaffed and underfunded Methadone clinics turn people away before they have been properly tapered or because they are being forced to drop clientele, that person will naturally turn back to heroin to alleviate the TWO MONTH methadone withdrawal.
An example of government intervention in the USA that has shown success is the fledgling Suboxone programs, where licensed doctors can prescribe it to addicts while giving them weekly drug tests to make sure they aren't cheating the system. Suboxone has a chemical in it that binds to opiate receptors and does not allow any opiates to get the user high, but also does not provide a high in itself.
Many addicts cannot afford Suboxone despite its surprisingly high success rate because it is not yet a government controlled program.  Start using tax money to fix the problem, not to find a ridiculous and unwinnable "war" against the cartels and the gangs in this country who are constantly thinking of ways to get around the police and the feds. 

Bucks's picture

This topic is a sad one. Emotions run high. We all have opinions. Some need to be left at the door:
 
"Do Not Discuss Politics or Religion
Sorry, we just don't want any of that stuff around here and discussing one of those topics is the quickest way to earn the banhammer. There are plenty of other places on the internet for you to talk about politics and/or religion."
 
Leave government discussions out of this. If you are so inclined, there are plenty of online venues to use.

buckeye1129's picture

You're right, I' sorry for brining government financial appropriations in relation to illegal substances into a message section on the site.  I just believed strongly in what I was saying. I certainly hope USMC11917 was not offended by anything that I said; I would hope not as I think I kept my thoughts pretty PC.

William's picture

Mentally unstable? No. Stupid and a diva? Yes. 

buckeye1129's picture

I saw that apology video, and after seeing my cousin struggle for years I know the signs of drug use, and he was definitely high.  Using strong drugs like oxycodone and alprazolam (Xanax) can definitely lead to mental instability, especially if the user becomes physically dependent and goes through the VERY intense opiate and/or benzodiazepine withdrawals. 

BrewstersMillions's picture

I'm reminded of that scene in Blow when Johnny Depp tries to fast talk the judge about why he shouldn't be in trouble because all he did was move some plants over an imaginary line to which the judge quickly responds the lines are real and the plants, illegal-or something to that affect.
Just because you don't have a problem with them doesn't make them any less illegal. It is someone's place to tell you what you can and can't consume when said items of consumption are only prescribed to people by medical professionals. Want to draw a line at big sodas or cheeseburgers or something? I'm on board but Xanie's and Oxy don't fall in the same ball park-they are the same except they are different. They are made illegal to consume outside of prescribed guidelines to protect the stupid from themselves. Ever seen anyone zoned out on Oxy when they didn't need to be? That's exactly why trafficking them should be illegal and why its just fine someone says you can't take them unless you have to. Spare me the bullshit.
Cute, though.

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

William's picture

Why is it my place to protect them from themselves? I'm not spouting bullshit. It's actually really simple, people can consume what they want, it's their life, not yours. 

Also, just because something is a law doesn't necessarily mean it should be obeyed or enforced. Throwing out junk mail addressed to someone else is a felony, don't tell me you've never done that before.. 

BrewstersMillions's picture

Alcohol is far more dangerous than a lot of 'illegal' drugs, but people consume it all the time... 

You in fact are spouting bullshit. Comparing the sauce to Oxy or Meth or any other rightfully outlawed substance shows an utter lack of experience with the vices you are attempting to understand. I could drink responsibly, as could you. There is no responsible use of non prescribed (hell evens scripted) Oxy. They deviate in that very important clear way. There's plenty of drugs you could have picked to lend credence to your theory but Oxy isn't one of them. That's my point. 
The willingness to compare an obviously bullshit law-throwing away junk mail-with an obviously different one-outlawed substances-is page 1 of the straw man playbook too. We are talking different things. Just because one law-throwing away junk mail-is a law doesn't make another law-not taking Oxy without a script-any less correct either. Of course throwing out a piece of mail isn't as bad as popping an Oxy. Don't be stupid. You aren't, quit pretending you are.

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

buckeye1129's picture

I am five years sober and unfortunately have experience with these substances.  I can honestly and unwaveringly say that alcohol is actually one of the worst drugs of all for its acute effects (stupid decisions, blackouts, drunk drivers killing people), and alcoholics can literally die from their withdrawals when getting clean, while oxycodone users would just feel the dysphoria and physical hell of opiate withdrawal.
With shooting up excluded as a route of administration, alcohol is at the very least tied for the worst substance available, legal or illegal.  However, although I never tried this, I have seen the damage that heroin and meth can do when needles become involved.  While alcoholics make the worst decisions of any substance users, IV drug users will do crazier things to get their drugs.  This is because the government allows and regulates alcohol sales, making the prices extremely low in comparison to the illegal counterparts of meth and heroin.  I am not proud of my past, but I know what I'm talking about for sure. If heroin was legal, it would be cheap, people who used it would not look so shitty from lack of nutrients and sleep deprivation, etc... and the crimes committed to get it would drop significantly.
Pure heroin is actually much less harmful than alcohol for your body.  Just saying.
In the end, be it beer, Valium or meth, do it enough and your life will go to shit.  It is not possible to be a healthy and prosperous addict.  You literally put your development on pause.  Luckily I stopped before any of the neurotoxicity of these substances caught up with me.  DONT DO THEM PEOPLE!!! :-)

Hovenaut's picture

Stay strong man, you aren't alone with said struggles.

Thanks for sharing.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

buckeye1129's picture

You're the man Hove! People who understand the plight and the condition help so much more by simply lending some support than the people who try to "scare you straight" or tell you how big of a dumbass you are.  I wish I had known my ultra-successful grandfather (why would I think a guy who regularly had dinner with the OSU president and who donates huge chunks of money to the school's athletic department is on about 20 different prescription pills from his doctor friends?), two of my blood uncles, and a blood aunt were all addicts before I ever tried my first anything.  Family genetics plays a huge role much of the time.
Luckily I can still drink a few beers before games or at an event.  I almost never reach for that "one too many" drink, although if I ever do I almost always catch myself or my very understanding girlfriend will say something like, 'dont be a dumbass. stop now' haha
But hard liquor and hard drugs are truly dangerous. Addiction has no prejudices or boundaries.  It doesn't care about race or gender or social class.  Luckily I know this now, at 22 and trying to get a highly respectable degree, as opposed to figuring it out 20 years down the line.

buckeye1129's picture

Also Brewster, and I promise I'm not giving you a hard time I'm just curious, have you ever heard of a person on Oxy accidently killing somebody or themself? What about date raping a girl?  Or passing out on somebody's front lawn/trying to open the wrong front door with their key?
Drinking responsibly is admirable, but some nights that line between responsible and getting loose with it gets blurrier and blurrier, literally and figuratively.  If you always drink responsibly and never get wasted, you my friend are f**kin awesome for having such strong willpower.
I will say this about alcohol though: It has had a direct role in some of the best nights of my life, including bonding with friends, really getting to KNOW a girl or twenty, getting into harmless mischief and just painting the town red.  It's fun no doubt, but I think it's better to find a girlfriend/wife depending on your walk of life, some close friends who aren't just around when the beer is there too, and limiting your drinking to special occasions.

BrewstersMillions's picture

No need to worry about my response towards your comments. I can take "millitant" stances on subject but they are by no means a reflection of my feelings towards the person I am responding to-William specifically. That's my dude-despite his terrible taste in hockey teams-so when I get argumentative towards a guy like him, its exactly that-an argument. You'd fall in that same category. Don't worry about "giving me a hard time"-you should. I'm an idiot at times.
Personally? No, but I've been lucky enough to not know anyone who's died because of alcohol either. Consider me incredibly lucky. I did date a girl from Lucasville, OH for 4 years and a lot of her friends and some extended family were heavy Oxy users. It was terrifying to see the way these people-some with kids-lived. I also don't mean to sell short the dangers of alcohol or give doctors more love than they deserve. I guess to me its a matter of dosage-one dose of Oxy can floor you-hence the lack of responsible use theory I have. One, two, even a few beers in the comfort of one's own home won't. Booze can be used responsibly. It isn't always and that's on the person who drinks too much, drives, etc. And of course that's where mine and Williams lines of thinking-per usual-sort of cross paths. That's on the person using it and sometimes its even beyond the person's control. My point-flimsy and selective as it might be seen-is that the amount of substance it takes to screw you up for a night or two is my benchmark for why some things should be outlawed and why some aren't.
As for always drinking responsibly? I'm no angel. Of course I've been irresponsible. Countless times and more times ended behind the wheel of a car than I ever care to admit but I woke up one morning realizing I'd ducked the three letter nightmare or worse way too many times and haven't done it to excess in 3 or 4 years.
I do think we are getting off topic here. Right or wrong, I'm cool with people telling me I can and can't do some things. I'm not a particularly intelligent person and left to my own devices I find myself getting into all sorts of foolish trouble. If someone says "Do these things or own these things and spend time in jail" that's enough of a deterrent for me.

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buckeye1129's picture

Haha thanks for the response.  I appreciate your argument and as somebody who was smart enough to steer clear of the drug crap, I tip my hat to you.  However, I do back William in this particular debate, because he makes great points.
It's funny...during our alcohol prohibition of the 1920s, the drug runners and murderers weren't some distant, southern cartels.  They were US.  United States citizens, running moonshine, killing cops, breaking hundreds of laws, and for what?  A few hours of feeling buzzed?  Maybe blacking out for a few days?  It seems like when something is illegal, people do crazy shit to get their hands on it.
Food for thought.

William's picture

You used an anecdote as a defense for your declaration that a law is a law and should always be followed, and my example I gave to rebutt that is considered a strawman? OK, sure. 

It has nothing to do with the severity of the affects of the drug. It isn't my place, or anyone else's to control someone else's life. People can make their own decisions, and if they choose to consume a certain substance, that is their choice, and it's that simple. It's not my job, or anyone else's to protect "stupid people from hurting themselves."

cinserious's picture

I see what you mean william about letting people slowly ruin their lives/kill themselves if they choose to use these drugs. What is not fair is the burden these idiots (users, pushers, irresponsible Dr.) put on the rest of society. They rob, steal, blight the neigborhood with crime and prostitution. Users worry family members about their safety and health.
Imagine, william you and your young kids live in an undesirable neighborhood full of all these blights and you work two jobs just to pay the bills. You constantly have to worry about the safety of your family, the gangs, prostitutes, dealers, junkies, needles on the ground.  The drug problem in America is EVERYBODY's problem. Good neighborhood or bad, inner city or suburbs or rural. If for some reason you feel it has no effect on you, one day it will.

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William's picture

If the drugs weren't illegal in the first place you wouldn't be creating an underground market that vastly overcharges for its goods in the first place. How many alcoholics rob liquor stores? How many cigarette smokers rob gas stations? We've created a Modern-era Prohibition problem with the "War on Drugs." 

cinserious's picture

Drugs like heroin, cocaine, meth, crack will never and should never be legal! However prescription drugs ARE legal and its a serious problem. the opioids like oxy-contin, percocets, vicodans, etc do the same thing as heroin and are just as deadly and addictive. Widespread abuse of these drugs and other trash like xanax is a serious problem. Just because they are 'legal' and 'regulated' doesn't make them any safer. Pill addicts are just as likely to rob and steal to get their drugs, maybe more likely because heroin is actually cheaper and easier to find.

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buckeye1129's picture

There is a prescription drug called Desoxyn.  It's chemical name is Methamphetamine Hydrochloride.  Fentalnyl is a prescription opiate.  It is 3-4 times stronger per mg than heroin.

buckeye1129's picture

You think that just because somebody has a medical license they are somehow immune to improperly prescribing dangerous medications?  Maybe 20% of those on Adderall and Dexedrine actually need it.  Opiates are greatly overprescribed and benzodiazepines such as Xanax and Valium are literally given out like candy.  Some of these doctors are as big of enablers as street dealers.

Jhesse17's picture

This isn't weed/ecstasy/whatever other recreational drug. Ray Small (allegedly) had some life ruining shit.

buckeye1129's picture

From past personal experience and being a first hand witness to others' usage, there is no such thing as a "recreational drug".  Even if a drug is not physically addictive like alcohol or opiates, many substances, including bud, can become as psychologically addictive as the "hard" drugs are physically habit forming.  By the way, Ecstacy and Alcohol are both more "hard" than recreational.

OSUs12-OH's picture

Whoops...

Sorry if this seems tasteless or in bad taste but if he didn't get popped down around Athens or Meigs county a couple years back I'd have more respect.  Learn from your mistakes Ray...time to Learn!

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AltaBuck's picture

Oxy?...he is lucky Deputy Raylan Givens wasn't at the arrest.

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buckeye1129's picture

In most states possession of an illegal firearm in conjunction with a narcotics distribution offense adds a mandatory 5 years to your sentence.  So with the possession with intent to distribute of the pills, the unstated amount of heroin (anything above 1 gram is considered distribution according to federal guidelines, and that isn't very much), and the assault rifle, he is looking at a hefty prison term even if it's not 33 years.
As a devoted student of the law, I can say that him getting the maximum here isn't a huge longshot seeing as how he was out on bail for a similar offense, plus he will have an additional felony charge of evading capture.  He is just damn lucky that they didn't tie those guns to any homicides, because whether or not he committed them that is a tough position to be in I'm sure. 
The guy in the apartment will probably turn state's evidence against Small, because hell, is there anybody that wouldn't want to cut a major amount of time off of their own sentence, or even avoid prison altogether?  All in all, Ray is looking at an estimated minimum of 20 years before parole is an option based upon mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines for these offenses.  I know that he wore the scarlet and gray, but anybody who had the talent to play in the NFL but who's lack of work ethic landed him in this position instead is not a true Buckeye.  It will be a LONG time before Ray Small is a free man again.

ATT2121's picture

No disrespect intended, but please stop calling the gun an "assault rifle". It is a pejorative remark that is wholly inaccurate.

 
 

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buckeye1129's picture

Sorry I just saw that in the article and I'm not big into guns.  Regardless, if that gun wasn't registered it makes two separate unregistered firearms on top of felony intent to distribute charges. Pretty damn big deal.

ATT2121's picture

No problem, just a personal pet peeve of mine. Also, there is no gun registry in Ohio. The gun possession may cause further charges, just not for being unregistered. 

 
 

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buckeye1129's picture

I believe the article said that the apartment raid took place in Michigan; therefore, even if he was arrested in Ohio, he will be extradited to Michigan to stand trial.  States want to prosecute the ones who they catch. Mich will never let Ohio try Small for the charges.
It doesn't seem like a big enough bust for the DEA to even take notice, so I doubt that the federal courts will hear a word of this trial.

BuckeyePoetLaureate's picture

Very sad.  I'll never understand why people who have EVERYTHING...full ride to a great school, great physical talent, youth...throw it away so dramatically.  And for what?  What could he have been gaining from the kind of life he was leading?

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Mizzillion's picture

I was thinking exactly the same thing.  The fact that this sort of thing is far from rare is even more mind boggling to me. SMH

Mizzillion's picture

Speaking of throwing it all away, check out this (I assume) soon to be former LSU player.

b_pbucksfans's picture

Sad to see this but whats even worse is that Urban was brought up twice in the 1st 10 comments. If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, did Urban do it? 

BuckeyeChief's picture

Sad, plain and simple.

 

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ajg OSU 5's picture

So this is Jim Tressel's fault now right?

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ArizonaBuckeye's picture

Just be glad the police caught him before he could sell his pills to a kid that overdoses and dies.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

Nick's picture

Hope he doesn't get 33 years for that. WOW.

bigbadbuck's picture

You either learn or you don't................33 yrs a long time for making the wrong choice

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unholy bucknut's picture

I hope things get better for smally. Do his time and turn his life into something positive. Wish him the best

buckskin's picture

Here's hoping he ends up like Maurice Clarrett and learns to make better choices with his life.  I don't think any player was in Tressel's doghouse as long as Ray was, man Tress kept giving him chances.  We always claim former Bucks, good or bad.

Jonnferrell's picture

I can envision both Maurice and JT working with Ray and trying to get him turned around.  A life wasted is a sad thing, but a Buckeye life wasted is a travesty against nature.  Sometimes in life you have to get pretty low before you start looking up.  I hope for Mr. Small he is looking up now and seeing that there are a lot better alternatives for him than where he is currently finding himself.  I will pray for that guy.  

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headina's picture

He won't even make the squad in jail, he will fumble every punt return. 

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