All Good

By Kyle Rowland on October 22, 2012 at 7:00p
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What looked to be a serious injury has turned out to only be a slight bump in the road for Ohio State quarterback Braxton Miller. The Buckeyes’ signal-caller passed several strenuous exams Saturday at the OSU Medical Center and was released shortly thereafter. 

Braxton Miller is all set for Penn State. 

On Tuesday, the day reserved for the toughest practice of the week, Miller is expected to be on the field.

“I went with him to the hospital afterwards to see him, along with (Mickey Marotti) and Tom Herman,” Meyer said. “All the test results came back, I guess the term is negative, which is positive. He's very sore – sore neck. We expect him to practice tomorrow.”

Meyer characterized Miller’s injury as “whiplash” someone might experience in a serious car accident.

“I had a long talk with him about it,” Meyer said. “He's just rattled, and once he settled down, he seemed to be fine. He made a comment to me he's never really been hurt.”

Ohio State may have survived Purdue without Miller’s dual-threat skills, but winning at Penn State without the Heisman Trophy contender is a tall order for an already injury-riddled team.

Miller’s prognosis is encouraging for Ohio State, but whether Miller can play with the same speed and flair remains unknown. Reid Fragel said Miller was getting around slowly on Sunday at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center.

Despite Miller possibly being less than 100 percent, Ohio State will not change its play calls to limit his running. Through the first eight games, Miller gained nearly 1,000 rushing yards. He carries the ball 18 times per game.

Miller’s biggest criticism has been his disdain for running out of bounds. His injury against Purdue could have been avoided had he shifted two yards to the right and run out of bounds. But Miller has also been the victim of two late hits out of bounds this season.

“I think you let him be him and coach him,” Meyer said. “If you have the opportunity to step out of bounds after a big play, step out of bounds. To be a classic drop back passer in his career now, I'm not sure how efficient we would be. The thing is I think more guys need to step up and take some heat off of him, which we did at times this year, not near where we need to be.”

Saturday was a prime example. Against a defense that had been shredded the previous two weeks, the Ohio State offense was held in check for 59 minutes. Even with Guiton’s heroics, there were no players on offense that graded out as champions.

“You can tell there’s a little inconsistency right now with our team,” Meyer said.

At the Sunday Victory Meal, Meyer sat with Guiton to re-watch the final drive. It caused quite a stir at the traditional dinner that comes after each Ohio State win.

“I just kept yelling Kenny Guiton, Kenny G.,” Meyer said. “The players are all laughing, and we're watching him. The television did a great job of showing him on the sideline when the defense is out there playing. Imagine being Kenny's mom and dad sitting there watching that. 

“I’m so proud of that guy right now.”

The past two weeks Meyer has hinted at inserting Guiton into the game in the first quarter. It hasn’t completely materialized yet due to the circumstances surrounding the game. But after Guiton’s performance Saturday, he’s earned whatever trust the coaches didn’t already have in him.

“Has he earned the confidence to go in the game and perform?” Meyer said. “He has.”

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luckynewman13's picture

Somebody, call M. Night Shyamalan...Braxton Miller is UNBREAKABLE

luckynewman13's picture

please don't downvote me...I don't really want Shyamalan to make more movies.

sirclovis's picture

I love your honesty

buckeye76BHop's picture

I'm not sure which one was worse...The Village or The Lady in the Water.  After that last one I mentioned, I never watched another one of his movies.  

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

sirclovis's picture

The Happening was pretty awful too

luckynewman13's picture

As bad as those movies were, he really outdid himself with The Last Airbender. That has got to be one of the 10 all time worst movies with a blockbuster budget.

spqr2008's picture

And the sad part is that the source material is so good.

MediBuck's picture

Oh God. He made Lady in the Water too? Just when you thought it couldn't get worse :/

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes

The_Lurker's picture

Meh, sue me. I actually liked The Village.

William's picture

Same here. I enjoyed The Village. Now, Lady in the Water was a catastrophe. 

Bucksfan's picture

I liked Unbreakable.  I thought it was his best.

Poison nuts's picture

Yep.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Think The Sixth Sense was better than Unbreakable. But I refuse to see any more of his films after The Happening.

Poison nuts's picture

Sixth sense was amazing. Unbreakable though, was just such a cool concept...Either way, it all pretty much went to shit after those two.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Buckeyeneer's picture

Being a comic book nerd as a kid, I really wanted this movie to be better. It was good, and I liked the concept and the ending but it was very slow and dragged a lot.

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Buckeye_Mafia's picture

The Last Airbender was pretty terrible too. 

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txbucknut's picture

I know that the game plan doesn't change a whole lot with Kenny G. in, but the play calling does a little so how great would it be to let Penn St. think Brax is starting and plan defensive strategy around it, but then start Kenny G? It seems like most teams have doe this exact same thing to the Buckeys all year (mostly on defense) but nonetheless they don't show what the Buckeyes have seen on film. I think this would be a good game for the Buckeyes to reciprocate, especially against a Penn St. team that is playing with confidence on both sides of the ball and that will have the home crowd advantage. 

d5k's picture

You know they have some flea flicker play or throw back play with both of them saved up.

xtremebuckeye's picture

I think Penn St would love nothing more than Braxton not stating because Kenny (as good as he is) doesn't have that elusive demention that Braxton brings to the game.

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Terwilligins's picture

Just thought of something kinda interesting. Our D has been weaker than expected this year. Against Purdue, it was for the most part solid except for the very first drive (play), which was horrendous. Our offense has looked tougher than expected this year. Against Purdue, it was pretty crappy except for the very last drive, which was legendarily awesome. So could be argued the first and last drives of the game were a cracked-out-extreme microcosm of this season, with an emphasis on extreme. The other 59 minutes of the game was more similar to regular frustrating wins/losses of Buckeye seasons past.

gobucks5413's picture

I know the idea of putting both QBs out there with braxtons injury history is a little scary....but don't you guys think its worth a look? Maybe just a play or two, use BM as a decoy for a few plays....might even be a much needed break for him, while showing some different stuff for the opponent to think about.

lljjgg's picture

I think allowing Kenny G to play 1-2 series or so during the game would be a great way to take some of that pressure off of Miller that Urban's talking about. You just wouldn't want Miller to feel like he's being replaced, or that there's a competition there for his job (a 2 QB-system typically makes the QBs worse rather than better imo). But just taking 5-10 plays out of Miller's hands each game could mean 3-5 fewer hits he's taking. Either that or just call even more designed HB runs (rather than option reads). But I like what Guiton brought us in the short to intermediate passing game, personally.

sirclovis's picture

I actually think Miller makes a decent amount of attempts to get out of bounds. The problem is that a lot of times he slows up once approaching the boundary line. I can think of a couple times when he slows down and then gets blown up out of bounds and it sometimes draws a late hit. This happened in both the Michigan State and Nebraksa games and both times he was slow to get up.

buckeye76BHop's picture

I trust the coaches and all, but I'm not sure if rushing Braxton back is such a great idea.  I realize what precautions they'll utilize with no contact on him and so on during this week in practice (unless they go crazy and practice full go with no restrictions on him).  But we won't know if he's going to be able to handle much contact until Saturday.  Braxton is a tough kid, despite some inappropriate and downright rude comments I saw about him on one of last Saturday or Sunday's articles by people that don't have regard for an individual's well being apparently (the pussy comments and so on...you know who you are). However, I'm not sure this makes sense to play him without considering Kenny's ability if Braxton isn't 100% on Saturday.  I know how much Braxton's means to OSU's offense (to the tune of 89% of productivity).  Kenny just really impressed me and I'd rather keep Braxton healthy.  Just an opinion of an old player and coach that knows what playing injured can do to you in the long run.  

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

As others mention above, though, even if Braxton will be limited or not expected to play at all, the coaches should announce throughout the week that Braxton is good to go. Warm up both QBs before the game, as usual, and then send Kenny out on the first series.  

buckeye76BHop's picture

I agree...hope that's the strategy too.  Just not convinced that's what's going to happen.  I can see #5 being out there to start on Saturday...regardless if he's 100% or not.  This team seems to have rallied around his injury last Saturday as opposed to last year at Lincoln, Nebraska.  We'll see on Saturday, but I tend to bet that he'll be OSU's starter due to his contribution percentage I mentioned.  Not to mention, he's become more of a "quiet" leader and lead by example type of player.  I think Meyer and company see that now with this comment;-) 

“I think you let him be him and coach him,” Meyer said. 

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

See, I'm guessing right now that Braxton won't play. If the symptoms of his injury are effectively like whiplash, not only will he be in a lot of pain when he cranes his neck; it'll probably make him a bit gun shy about running around, playing recklessly, and/or making quick-twitch decisions on option plays, etc.
The coaches are going to try to win every game, period, regardless of the bowl ban. But if Braxton is only 80-percent, it's questionable that he'd be a better option than Kenny; and, if it's a 50/50 proposition on performance, they might see the value in resting Braxton while giving the team and Kenny valuable experience on the road.     

William's picture

He's listed as the starter on the depth chart that was released today. I imagine that he'll be playing come Saturday. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Hope you're right - again, I was just making an uneducated guess. When I hear the word "whiplash," even if it's just an analogy, that condition can be pretty debilitating. But they will not put Braxton at risk. If he plays, it'll probably be one of those deals where Braxton playing won't make it any worse, but he'll have to play through some pain, discomfort, possible tightness. Better yet, he's close to 100 percent by Saturday, but that seemed unlikely. 

German Buckeye's picture

“You can tell there’s a little inconsistency right now with our team,” Meyer said.
 The most underwhelming statement from UFM this season - really Urban? I don't want to get on him too much here, it's just that ANYONE can see that.  At least it's not like the mundane comments that flowed out of Tress (at least not yet).  I suppose if the boys don't start getting consistent, then UFM will step up honest assessments? 

3technique's picture

This is great news! I feel like this is a winnable game if they come out focused. They cannot take plays off... I would love to score a couple of TDs and take the crowd out of it. I think this will be the week that they put it all together and win big( by atleast 14) I hope I am right...

chitown buckeye's picture

I'm trying to figure out what I'm reading in these threads the last few days. I think it was an incredible win, guiton getting thrown into that situation performed cool, calm, and collected. Do people really believe we can just plug him in and have no letdown? People are talking as if because THEY believe Guiton is a better passer than Miller he should see playing time. Now I understand if people are concerned about injuries and Miller being rushed back but it seems like many want to go to some sort of two qb system!? Braxton is a heisman trophy caliber player and I think if he is cleared to play then you play him. I get that everyone is on a Guiton high right now because of the win but in my opinion we need Braxton this week vs PSU. I think it is somewhat of a disservice to Miller to believe we can just go to Guiton and have the same offensive production. Guiton is a wonderful qb and a great backup but if Braxton is healthy you play him.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I'd suspect very few fans want to see Guiton and/or a platoon (or rotating QBs) under anything approximating an ideal scenario, unless the team is blowing out the opposition. Rather, some fans were perhaps rationalizing what they suspected/feared might be a necessary relief appearance by Kenny G. No question, Braxton is a better option than Kenny G because Braxton is one of the best in the country, period.  

chitown buckeye's picture

Maybe I'm misreading some of the comments or I have an exaggerated thought of how many I've read. PSU scares me a bit and I think we certainly need our best weapon on the field. Others seem kind of lackadaisical and relaxed as if we can just let miller rest on the sideline (even though he is cleared to play) and have no worries about this game. 

"I'm having a heart attack!"

johnblairgobucks's picture

Anyone recall how Urban handled Tebow's concussion a few years back, when he go clocked by Kentucky?
I seem to remember Florida having a bye week, after Kentucky, and Tebow played the next game.
Maybe Urban's dealing with Tebow's issues are helping him through this.....I know the two situations are not 100% the same.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Be well Braxton - we need you at Creepy Valley

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Poison nuts's picture

Creepy Valley! 
Maybe I'm just an old man, but I've never heard that one before...and it's perfect.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

buckeyedude's picture

It would be the perfect setting for anther Zombie movie.

 

 

NC_Buckeye's picture

Creepy Valley!
Just to let you know... I'm stealing that.

Buckeyeholicwompa's picture

Guiton is the man for doing what he did last weekend, but I do not think he should start this Saturday. I'm all for throwing Guiton in on a couple of series to throw a curve at PSU though. That'd be cool. The best thing that can help Brax out right about now is the receivers and backs stepping up. We need all catches caught by the receivers from Brax and when we run, we need our backs to pick up some good yards. I swear, everytime we miss out on a big pass play cuz of a dropped ball or what coulda, woulda, shoulda been a catch is more work on Brax to try to run and get the 1st down to keep the chains moving.
Hopefully the coaches give the receivers some good routes to run and get the passing game going. I'd love for Brax to have a game where he tears up the PSU D by the air and has a 300yds/3 TD performance cuz of it.

WC Buckeye's picture

I don't think we should be too worried about our offense. Any wrinkles that we can throw at PS will definitely enhance our ability to keep them guessing and breaking off big plays. We should, however, be very concerned about our defense. At different points in the game, virtually the entire starting front four were banged up, and our secondary obviously looked porous again. The linebackers weren't getting hobbled too badly, thankfully, but we're already in the two- and three-deep there anyway.
That's what worries me. I think if we can just get a few key stops, we can win in a close, albeit  likely high-scoring, event on Saturday. Without those, though, we're in for a long day. 

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NC_Buckeye's picture

Not so quick on the not-worrying about our offense. Penn State's defense is close to if not better than MSU's. In fcat, I'm extremely envious of the quality of play thus far by the LBs.
Most everyone assumes they had many defections on both sides of the ball. Not true. Their defense is for the most part intact and well experienced. (9 of 11 are JRs or SRs.)