Raise your hand if you thought this game would come down to one score? You – over there with the mustard stain on your shirt – why are you lying?
In a weird one, Ohio State's offense and defense showed up when it mattered as the Buckeyes survived a huge Cal rally to hold on for a 35-28 win in Ohio Stadium.
The Good: Miller's first half featuring the Alabraxton Shakes, Devin Smith's huge day and six sacks from the defense.
The Bad: Cal killing Ohio State on adjustments out of the halftime locker room and a poor tackling and coverage showing by the Silver Bullets.
Oh well, just win, baby! Right?
Thanks to Throw the Flag for the game footage.
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Wow. where to begin. How bout good, bad, and ugly all at once. geesh
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
Tress-ball is back baby!!!!!!!! Gotta love it!
Psssshhh...I was thinking the same damn thing!
“The minute we stop expecting greatness from our football program, we become Wisconsin.” Craig Krenzel
A win is a win. We need to work.
Bam Bam Bigelow killed us today, eh?
Great game from Miller outside of that ghastly pick.
Defense screams 8-4. Worst tackling I've seen from an OSU defense in many years. Might need to shake up the staff in the offseason.
The North remembers.
Sadly, I think Fickell's days are numbered as defensive coordinator.
Real fans stay for Carmen.
Sadly, I agree.
Maybe Withers is at fault? Is that possible?
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NO
You're not vey bright are you?
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Please explain how Whithers could be at fault.
He's the Co-DC and secondary coach, primarily safeties.
Fickle would call the plays.
The safeties were decent today. On coverage.
No they weren't, the first screen play (TD) was all on Barnett. The safeties have been the worst part of the defense. Bad in coverage, bad in run support, they take bad angles and have been bad at tackling.
True, Barnett screwed-up but I have a hard time faulting them if a zone is called and then the offense throws the screen. I did not see anyone get smoked... OK maybe once, but I cannot remember who that was. They were not bad in run support, Roby and Bryant both had some game saving stops.
Bryant missed the tackle that allowed for the 59-yard TD...
And he had a stop that likely would have gone for a TD.
Schooey loves Christian Bryant! Just loves em!
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Today I do. Betcha Meyer does too.
Shazier whiffed on him right after as well...
~Because we couldn't go for three~
can someone please tell me why exactly we let Heacock go?
I did not know they "let Heacock go". That sucks, I thought he left of his own accord.
He did. I thought he retired...could be wrong though.
Wherever you are, there you be!
Well, then, we could call him back. I hope you are right because I do not have much faith in Fick and company.
to clarify: when I say "let go" I do not mean "fired". From what I've seen Heacock left and it was "amicable"...but that could just be the press release. But if Tressel was still the coach I imagine Heacock would still be here as well...which means we could have tried harder to keep him with the team. But that's purely conjeture on my part.
I PITY everyone on that team come tuesday's pratice.
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
The defense is just not as disciplined as it used to be. Plus it seems like they're getting outschemed. Ultimately got the win, but what a sh*t show.
I wouldn't be too worried about a mustard stain on my shit, because it is shit after all.
The defense, however, is something to worry about.
EDIT: my post makes no sense now that the typo was fixed. oh well. it stays.
I blame my browser spell check, which has become sentient and can now curse in five languages.
Was Heacock that good/important?
I've been asking myself that since UCF...
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
Love the bronx cheer PSU fans gave their kicker after he made the extra point.
Looked more like Silver Blanks to me today.
It doesnt help our d when we go 3 and out so much
I think the team looked a little "entitled" in the 3rd quarter today, if you know what I mean.
Yes, entitled enought try some experimental plays that turned to crap.
Great game. We had one of those, last year: Wisky.
I think how Cal does the rest of the year will be more important in terms of judging how this game turned out. If they're a 5 win PAC team then we have some serious issues to be worried about. If they turn out to be the 3rd best PAC team behind SC and the ducks then this win, while not perfect, showed a lot of resolve in our guys.
Remains to be seen....
They did lose badly to Nevada at home.
I know but that was their 1st game and weird things happenin those, plus it's possible once they got that out of the way they vastly improved. Maybe I'm just looking for excuses, but it sure looked to me like they had some pretty decent playmakers and could conceivably finish ranked. Again, we'll see soon enough.
Yep. And they're at USC next week. Cal will be a 1-3 team soon.
How Cal does the rest of the season means nothing as far as OSU is concerned. Cal played well today and OSU will continue to improve each week.
Well we did win. Better to make adjustments after winning a game than after losing one. Go Bucks!!!
I never understood why anyone would think Cal would be worse than UCF. The quality of conference alone should have said that cannot be.
Yeah don't forget the PAC in general looks pretty strong this year and just last week took down both Nebraska and Wisky. It's always tricky to judge teams right after you play them in the beginning of the season b/c we have no idea about their relative strength
People always try to find excuses for when we (tOSU) play poorly. And last week everyones fall back excuse was well UCF is actually a pretty good team/best OOC team we will face, when the reality is were just not clicking on all cylinders right now and its showing. Braxton is a one man freak show and the defense cant get out of its own way! I think im about one more shitty defensive game away from giving up on Fickell. Hell its not like he earned alot of trust and confidence last year lol.
I'd like to know what it would take for this crowd to be happy? Yes, it wasn't pretty, but I think Cal is a pretty good team. How many games in 2002 did the Buckeyes "bearly" win?
I think many Buckeye fans have more of the "entitled" mentality than the players.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
Not entitled but this is "tOSU" and we expect greatness every year! And since when did Cal become a pretty good team? What because they damn near beat us today?? Just yesterday everyone was saying how bad they sucked and that we were gonna kill em by 30??!! Lol come'on im just pointing out the obivious. We have problems on defense and no matter how you slice it or dance around it the problems are there. Our defense isnt passing the eye test right now. In 2002 we had some studs to bail us out and that defense was mean! Right now we have Braxton and the rest of the team trying to find themselves...
One game at a time please. There are no guaranteed wins. Homeboys have already forgot lessons from 2006 BCS NC Game.
We won, and we know what we need to do for UAB, and then the Big Ten. It's still a win, no matter what happeend.
We got it done when we wanted to, and half assed the rest of the time. That's on EVERYONE, and that's not going to fly against better competition.
Brandon Castel said it best: this team hasn't properly tackled since 2010. Something tells me a loss would have been much more beneficial today in terms of growth/lessons.
How the hell does Tressel even make it into this thread? Get it right, folks. Coach Tress and his teams won games, played SOLID FUNDAMENTAL FOOTBALL, rarely missed tackles, rarely missed assignments, and rarely squandered big leads. Tress was smart enough to know to keep it simple, sustain drives with a fundamental ground game where everyone on the offense would know that our big back was going to carry the ball and be decisive with it.
I support Meyer and this Buckeye team, do not get me wrong. But I'm tired of hearing so many people criticize Tress for being tight-lipped and running a tight ship. Right now, we have coach who likes to go public with everything, and we have a team that loves to talk, but are we backing it up?
For me, this post is more about Tress because I'm so sick of fans disrespecting him. Tress deserved to be fired, and I do like Meyer. However, I think Meyer and his staff can take a few pages from the Winner's Manual and go back to perfecting Ohio fundamental football. I wish we would use our arms and wrap up when we tackle. And every so often, it's not a bad idea to run under center and smash the other team for 3 or 4 yards a pop. This team can be great, but damn, we have to be SOLID first.
Tress was and still is the man. IN TRESSEL WE TRUST!!!!
Amen brother!
Wherever you are, there you be!
I hear you, especially about the defense not wrapping up.
The offense, however, is just starting to hit its stride. We couldn't execute the pitch/option in weeks 1 and 2, but now we're doing it -- with Jordan Hall back (woohoo!). Jake Stoneburner was a no-show, today he had 2 TDs.
If the RBs and Philly Brown get going too, it's off to the races.
I think it's going to be an up-and-down sort of season, but I feel a lot more confident that this team can score whenever it needs to -- not always the case with Bollman ball (leaving Tress out of it :))
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
Don't mean to sound anti-Urban. I'm sure he'll get this team and program on the right track. I just appreciate how Tress's teams put in work and got Ws. I was there when we suffocated Oregon's spread, no-huddle crap at the Rose Bowl. We simply kept the ball from them. Hope this team will be able to do that when necessary.
And the defense...I can't recall the last time I've seen our defense look so poor fundamentally (this year and last season). No excuse for not being able to tackle. That has nothing to do with the scheme, and everything to do with discipline. Still got a lot more of the season to go. Pretty sure we'll be alright, but it's gonna be a bumpy ride.
Tress made the thread not out of disrepect, but out of excitement.....lighten up......won't you? That was a fun game to watch and it was an exact theme of players much better than their competition just going through the motions after building a lead and playing a little sloppy to allow the opponent to stay in the game until the end. JT teams did it all of the time but still found a way to win......that's what I loved about Tress and he was a hell of a coach for it. If that didn't remind you of many his games as coach of the bucks, I don't know how else you could describe that game. Oh, by the way, the defense ended up winning the game too.....in true Tress fashion.
Got you, man. I'm just pissed off at the sloppy defensive play. Give it another day. Maybe I'll lighten up tomorrow. Have a good one...
Defense can't tackle for shit
Offensive playcalling was extremely predictable for a large portion of the game
We only won because Cal's kicker is terrible. That was an agonizing game to attend.
Still, it was nice to see the offense and defense step it up when it mattered most, but my confidence in this defense has really been shaken.
I feel you man. I was in the stands wondering wtf am I watching! Piss poor performance today...
So, who won the pool with that crazy score?
Urban needs to talk to Fickle and see if he plans on being at OSU for a long time. If he wants to stay change needs to happen quickly.
100% agree! I have just about lost all faith in Fickell!
"We won because Cal's kicker is terrible" I hope people understand that.
This....pretty much.
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I am mailing 3 Buckeye stickers to Cal's Kicker
...except that the margin was 7
Tressel Forever
5-30-11
Ooops, so out of sorts from the close game that I forgot basic math. Thanks again to the Cal kicking squad. :-)
Tressel Forever
5-30-11
Cals kicker totally bailed us out!
We won because Braxton Miller is better than Cal's defense.
JOHN SIMON IS A GROWN ASS MAN!!!!!
I have no mustard stains on my shirt (I had pizza for lunch), but I did say this would be a close game, and called it 31-30 for the Buckeyes. Cal has the players, and today they made some plays. The Buckeyes have some issues --tackling, for instance-- and today they were exploited. This was a good game to win. It gets us to 3-0 going into what is essentially a practice scrimmage against UAB, gives us a chance to continue to integrate J Hall into the offense, gets our injured guys a chance to recover, and the team an opportunity to fine tune for B10 season. I called this game, and said at the same time we will come back stronger than ever for MSU, a game we win by two TDs. You heard it here first.
GOT DAMN JOHN SIMON... Well that sure makes me feel a bit better
the offense didn't look up tempo until they were losing, i wish the pace was that fast the whole time instead of going to the line and standing around for 15 seconds
We got some good calls also.
Overall, LUCKY game.
Staff, Can we get an open thread for the rest of todays games?
I predicted a close game. Cal always has playmakers and it showed today.
Too many penalties today, sloppy careless ones as well.
Glad Smith made up for his early drops with the big game he had.
Simon as been getting pressure all year..difference today was that Cals QB wasn't getting rid of it in the 2-3 seconds. Hankins is gone after this year the way he's been playing..too good for his size.
Impressed by Bryant's play..the hitting and game winning pick was great! Howard looked..like 2011 Howard.
Why did Hall get all the carries today? Didn't make much sense. If that didn't piss off Rod I don't know what will.
Alot to improve on but I think Cals kicker handed us the W in a paper bag.
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I was surprised Brionte Dunn didn't get any carries. Rod Smith getting no carries is no surprise. A surprise would be if he didn't transfer after this season.
We got sacks! Even though we played like sh¡t! Cal beat us in just about every stat except sacks. I think we crowned them (team and coaches)kings too early! Best coaching staff in the country. I say they have to prove it. Are missed tackles and blown coverages going to be the norm!
Wherever you are, there you be!
And didn't Urban say we were going to have an offense like Oregon. Has he watched Oregon.
Wherever you are, there you be!
Our offence need alot and i mean ALOT of work. Threw the air and on the ground. except for the first half we looked horrible out there.. i hope we can step it up before conference play begins. wich we should. cause we have the talent. lets be consistent out the with the ball.
Buckeye_For_Life
Actually you mean a lot of work. Just sayin'
nobody likes a know it all buddy . alot a lot . this aint english class.
Buckeye_For_Life
It makes him feel superior to correct you.
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A lot. Two words. I've given you the information. What you choose to do with it is up to you.
Paying it foward.....(golf clap). Well done.
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NW and BC on BigTen Network. And don't count out AK even without starting QB.
The Cal running backs played like Tecmo Bowl players today, so let's not fire the whole Defense just yet.
Running back #5 had what ... 152 yards and 2 TDs on 3 plays or something?
Cal played their hearts out -- they had a better chance of beating us than USC next week, so they were prepared.
In the end, a win is a win, and we didn't get punked by the Pac 12 like the rest of the B1G
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
Well put.
Wherever you are, there you be!
Cal=RB U I tell ya...
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BTW, When do we know who won the t shirt
Wherever you are, there you be!
OH - IO-lmost forgot:
JOHN SIMON AND DEVIN SMITH FOR COLLEGE FOOTBALL PRESIDENT 2012
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
I would rather win 10 to 3.
Either our current D staff is not mashing well together or Jim Heacock was the real man behind our perennially great D of the past. Last year Jim Bollman got exposed in the absence of Tressell, and this year it might be Fickell's turn.
In the last ten years, we have never looked this bad on D, not even when we went against elite offenses like those of USC, Oregon, or Texas. If we keep on going like this, we may have a few new faces on the staff come next year.
You don't scrap a whole new staff after one year. Especially when they haven't lost a game yet.
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I am talking about making changes to the staff AFTER the season IF we don't improve.
^ LULZ #BuckeyeNation, currently 3-0, #12 in the country, months removed from a sub-.500 season.
#GraveyardOfCoaches indeed.
Obviousl, but I'll say it again..coaches usually get more than 1 year together. Also we haven't lost yet so it's tough to threaten people's jobs. If we were 1-3 I'd have to agree with you, but.....
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I agree with you. But the poor tackling and breakdowns in coverage are trends that manifested themselves last year, and that's why I'm concerned. Fickel isn't new to this. He and his staff better show improvements. On the plus, we did get lots more pressure on the qb today.
I think it was on the last FG attempt by Cal that I was absolutely shocked that they didn't run a quick 5 yard slant for the first down. It was there all day long (as usual).
Bryant played angry and well.
Linsley played angry too but not in a good way lol.
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Could somebody upload that Shazier hit where he up-ended that guy in the backfield on the far side. He had a good game, only got beat once and missed a tackle once if I recall. Had a sack too.
He was out of place on a number of plays that I saw.
All of their missed FGs were 40+. Should a kid getting free school hit those? Yes. Did we get fortunate at times? Yes. However, to infer that Cal "gave" that game to us is nonsense. We have tons to work on, but we have W's. I trust the staff will get it together.
****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in. FACT
Not every team has a reliable kicker.
Penn State's kicker last week missed 4 field goals and 1 extra point (i believe that was the count) and he's on scholarship. Of course he's their 2nd string kicker since their more experienced 1st string kicker transferred to Texas.
Does anyone know what the hell happened on that deep (underthrown) ball to Philly? They called it incomplete, then showed the replay in the stadium and it was pretty obvious that he made the catch. It looked like Urban was screaming at the refs and tried to challenge but they wouldn't let him or something.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
Wasn't a catch. The back end of the ball bounced off of the turf, you could see the rubber pellets from the field turf bounce up.
It clearly hit the ground. In HD on TV you see the little black pellets fly up when the ball hits the turf.
I guess it is time to build an even bigger HD TV for a scoreboard because it was obviously not a catch from home...
I agree with BADOWL at the game it clearly looked like a catch on the monitors lol. The whole stadium was screaming for a replay!!
Wasn't impressed with Jordan Hall today. Dunn needed to be in there running in the middle. Jordan looked good on the options - get him the ball in space.
Best thing you can do with J Hall is run a screen pass with him..did we do that once today?
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Screens only work to punish an over aggressive defense. They were being disciplined in their rush keeping Braxton from scrambling for first downs so rb screens may not have worked... wheel routes mightve worked though.
Here's my thoughts. Fickle is on the hot seat the rest of the year for the following two reasons. He constantly gets out schemed and is unable to make adjustments at the half. Fick is a really nice guy and he is a true Buckeye, but common people, he isn't the D-Coordinator for this team. This was also evident last year when he was on his own and the defense was a sieve as it appears to be this year.
You know what's more ridiculous than the fact that you're judging a guy for calling a decent game, in which missed tackles and assignments led to points, instead of his play calls, is the fact that you can't spell come on or c'mon (you're spelling common, like common man, or meet me at Kennedy Commons).
Agree completely. The problem is linebackers and safeties being inconsistent with angles and tackling. This is a player issue. We still miss Homan and Rolle and Kurt Coleman basically. Shazier is going to be good but he is out of position a lot and both safeties are inconsistent and overaggressive often going for a TFL instead of keeping runners contained.
Shazier and Bryant are two of the worst players I have ever seen at taking good angles.
Im not sold on Fick either. I just dont like him running the show. I think hes a good position coach, just dont want him signal calling. Im sorry this is tOSU and I bleed Scarlet & Gray but you dont get time to improve here. You either come out swinging or get the hell out of the way!
he wasn't the D-coordinator last year, Heacock was. Fick was HC.
I think Withers should take more heat for the adjustments because he is the one up in the box and should be able to see what is going on and call down to the field to let them know. I find it strange that everyone is up in Luke's grill without also mentioning Withers.
I think a swing pass to Jordan hall would have been nice to see. He didn't show that burst of speed. But it was his first game.
It most be frustrating to call this offense. Guys execute and drive down the field in a min. Then next series your wide receivers drop 5 yard passes. Then your next series your qb overthrows a wide open receiver. Very inconsistent play from our offense. Play calling was actually very good at times especially in the red zone.
Defense: doesn't matter what you call if your team dives at feet and decides not to wrap up! That was actually sad to watch. Also, 3 and outs will kill your defense. You can tell 3rd quarter we had no energy, and no pass rush!
My thought is we need to make better 2nd half adjustments!
"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03
I think I was one of the few people who this game would be alot closer than everyone else thought. My exact words yesterday were "Im not going to over look Cal. I think it may be a closer game than we think. I hope its a blowout but I wouldnt be surprised if they came here ready to fight tomorrow." Boy was I right about this one! I was at the game in the student section (37AA) and our defense just looked awful! I will admit Cal has alot of speed on the offensive side of the ball but we just stunk on D!! Missed tackles, open receivers, dropped picks, penalties, you name it!! Braxton was a one man team out there today and that really has me worried... Maybe we need to rethink the whole "undefeated" dream. And no im not just saying this because of one game! Its the same problems that have plagued us since the beginning of the year and we dont seem to be getting any better! WTF defense!!! We have ALOT of work to do if we wanna beat MSU...
Undefeated seasons are magical!
Remember holy buckeye! There were a lot of close games that year.
Anytime u go undefeated a little magic, luck, karma, is needed!
"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03
Yeah I understand you need a little luck/magic to go in your favor but we have the same problems week after week and they dont seem to be getting any better. Thats what really worries me lol.
A good coach would have players positioned correctly, these guys are always out of position. Thanks for the grammar lesson, I'm entitled to my opinion.
Bryant and shazier have awesome hits. They fly to the ball and crack people! Only problem with that is a lack of breaking down and wrapping up the ball carrier. Which we witnessed today! Poor angles, tackles, etc.
I love seeing someone get blowed up!
But, I hate seeing a rb gain a 150 yards on three carries because my defense try's to make a big hit or dive at someone's feet!
"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03
Quote of the day by Urban Meyer - "John Simon is a GROWN ASS MAN"
^^^Loved this +100
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
Over 500 yards offense on our so called "Silver Bullets".... Man I dont know if Fickell sucks that bad or if our players arent that good!
Fickell has done nothing for 2 years. Hope Urban gets rid of him soon.
A lot more than one person said they were not going to cover. And at the same time, using a sports metaphor, Cal blew their wad today and will be dismantled by USC.
Co-defensive coordinator? Where does the other guy fit in this, or does he get credit for the good stuff?
They will play USC tough. In the first half at least..
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I hope you're right, but I expect USC to blow Cal out by 30+.
As Cal did surprise me 741 and Jason...I can't see USC coming off a lose repeating with another one or even a close game. We allowed Cal to stay in the game with countless 3 and outs as other missed opportunities. No to mention horrible tackling (as well as missed assignments...I noticed the hands up too)...I'm not sure what's going on but it's not OSU type of defense. That was sad what I witnessed and both those long runs don't happen if the defense tackled and wrapped up instead of submarine tackling (which I'm sure they aren't be being coached to do...so the DB's and LBs need to stop before someone gets hurt). It was nice to see some pressure put on the QB but they still gashed the middle of the defense (running and passing). Lots to fix...
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
My in the stadium all three weeks observation about the DEF is this - about half the time the defensive secondary doesn't know what the call is... You see them looking worried, hands turned up like "what is my assignment" seconds before the offense snaps the ball. I don't know if this is Fickel, Coombs, or Withers' fault but it appears to me the defensive scheming and play calling is not where it needs to be. This DEF is reacting, not attacking, and the staff needs to f***ing step it up.
Hoping to see some better tackling next week.
When I saw those stats on Bigelow the name Biakabutuka came to mind! pardon the spelling
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Biggest improvement I see this week compared to last week against UCF is in the offense. The players seemed to get lined up and knew the assignment/play without any confusion. Last week, it looked as if the RBs and some of the receivers were kinda running around not knowing where to line up or what they play was. So I think they got that cleaned up.
However, on the defensive side of things......
I recall seeing Travis Howard with his arms up like WTF? pre snap once. That's never good to see by a DB pre snap. I think the defense is having a hard time with knowing what the call is, communication, and discipline. I'm not sure with the new staff changes if a lot changed on the defense this year, so far it doesn't look like anything major but I have to wonder if it has anything to do with having co-defenseive coordinators vs. just THE defensive coordinator. To my understanding, Fickell is in the booth while Withers is on the sideline?
An ugly win and the worst OSU linebackers I can remember. Fickell needs to be replaced.
Wow, Utah State just Cal'd the end of that game against Wisky.
After a number of drinks yesterday I too was calling for Fickell's job but after my coffee this morning I think the major problem is execution. Most of Cal's yardage came on big plays either after bad tackling/angle of pursuit or missed assignments. I can't blame bad tackling on the coaching staff and the players have to know where to be when they are on the field. The defense (especially the linebackers and db's) has to attack not react as 741 pointed out and hopefully that comes with more experience and film study. I can't hold the coaches blameless on the deficiencies of the defense but they can only teach and motivate. The players have to step up and start making plays.
Wow...a wins a win...but much to work on. In no order of importance, penalties, tackling, reading and movement/flow by LBs, and overall play in general. This team doesn't fix simple things as the game goes on (like when RB #5 is in...he's going to run the ball...). It almost seems like they're playing to the level of their opponent last two games. I'm no longer making any predictions on upcoming games...because it's almost impossible to determine how this team will perform on either side of the ball at this point.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987