11W Recruiting Notebook

By Alex on January 5, 2012 at 1:00p
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Can you Diggs it?The recruiting game continues for Stefon Diggs

There is less than one week of the 2011 college football season left, meaning that after Monday's tussle between LSU and Alabama you have two things to look forward to as a fan of the sport.

The first thing that pops into most fans' minds is the amount of time until spring ball. Despite not being able to play in a bowl next year, this is still front of mind for Ohio State fans, as the Urban Meyer era is officially under way and everyone will get their first glimpse of the new coach's revamped Buckeyes during practices and the Spring Game in April.

The second thing, front of my mind, is National Signing Day, which will take place in early February. The Buckeyes already have 19 verbal commitments for the class of 2012, but are looking to fill 4-6 more spots, depending on availability, and the home stretch is underway with January hitting and the live period about to be opened up again.

In this edition of the 11W Recruiting Notebook, we bring you the latest from the high school all-star games, tell you what prospect may be back on Ohio State's radar, update you on what visitors are expected to Columbus, and take you through what is happening during Under Armour and US Army practice weeks. Join us after the jump to get the latest scoop on all things Buckeye recruiting, as we take you down the home stretch to National Signing Day.

Cards In the Deck(Er)

Taylor Decker started his recruiting process wanting to play for Ohio State. The 6-8/290 offensive tackle never really had a chance though, as he was flat out not recruited by Jim Tressel, Luke Fickell, Jim Bollman, or anyone else on the Buckeyes' staff. Turned off by the way OSU handled things, Decker moved on and committed to Notre Dame back in March of 2011.

Decker back in play? Very much soTwo new coaches have Decker back in the picture

After Urban Meyer was hired and the new coach contacted the Vandalia Butler star to see if there was any interest now that a new sheriff was in town, Decker's interest was piqued, but he ultimately decided to stay loyal to the Irish coaches and his verbal pledge. It was all but a signed deal that one of Ohio's top three linemen would be playing his college ball in South Bend next season.

Key words there: "all but signed". Things have now changed a bit for Decker as Meyer has filled out his staff with two integral people in Decker's recruitment in new tight ends coach, Tim Hinton, and more importantly, new offensive line coach, Ed Warinner.

Both Hinton and Warinner were key cogs in Decker's decision to choose Notre Dame. Taylor was aware of the possibility that Hinton may leave, but he was under the impression that Warinner would 100% be staying on staff next year and thought he could even get a promotion to offensive coordinator. Clearly that didn't happen and now the star lineman is mulling things over a bit.

When I contacted Decker he told me he needed a few days to talk some things over with his parents before he was ready to do an interview with 11W. I respected those wishes and will definitely try to get the latest scoop, but one thing that is clear is that Ohio State is very much back in the picture with the hiring of Warinner, and Notre Dame, by not being able to retain their line coach, may be in hot water.

Stay tuned as this one could get very interesting really quickly.

Visits Lining Up

It seemed like the Ohio State campus was a revolving door when Urban Meyer was hired, as visitors came and went, sending the recruiting world into a whirlwind. Things took a little bit of a break over the holiday season, but now that the hiatus is behind us, Urban is on the prowl once again, trying to get the nation's best players to come check out what Columbus has to offer.

Winston is coming to ColumbusGetting Winston on campus would be a huge win

There are no visits on tap for this weekend, but next weekend things heat up again, as the Buckeyes will host South Bend (IN) Washington LB/RB David Perkins, Scottsdale (AZ) Chaparral WR/CB Davonte' Neal, and Windsor (CO) OL Joey O'Connor on official visits.

Perkins has visited Missouri already and will come to Columbus next weekend. He will also visit Michigan State on January 28 and Oregon on January 20, leaving just one more visit up for grabs. Michigan, Pitt, Arizona State, and a few other schools are in the mix after LSU (too many linebackers in class) and Tennessee (LB coach and DC went to Washington) trips were recently temporarily canceled. I think Perkins is a secondary option for the Bucks at linebacker behind Camren Williams, but he is a tremendous athlete and it will be interesting to see how things unfold after his trip.

Neal is still in the early process of making his decision, which is good news for the Buckeyes as they came into things late. The star athlete grew up in Akron until he was 9 and was even ball boy for a couple of big games for the Buckeyes back in the early 2000's, including the national championship game against Miami. It is no secret there is a special place in Neal's heart for Ohio State, but it will be up to Urban Meyer to close this out over other schools in contention, including Notre Dame, Arkansas, Arizona (Rich Rod just hired his high school head coach), Arizona State, Hawaii (father played with Norm Chow), USC, Auburn, Miami, UNC, Florida State, and others.

O'Connor also appears to be a back-up plan, not because of skill, but because of position. At 6-4/290, O'Connor is projected as more of a guard than a tackle, where played in high school, and right now OSU needs tackles. If the Buckeyes can land two of three in Taylor Decker, Kyle Dodson, and Jordan Diamond, I think adding O'Connor would be smart, but right now the former three are Urban Meyer's priority.

On January 20, the biggest name on this list is supposed to come to town. That prospect would be QB Jameis Winston of Hueytown High School in Alabama, who is currently committed to Florida State, and is rated as one of the top 10 players in the nation by multiple outlets.

Urban Meyer and Tom Herman have not made it a secret they aren't exactly comfortable with the quarterback situation behind Braxton Miller (Kenny Guiton and Cardale Jones) and have been recruiting Winston hard. Winston has visited Alabama already, will take a trip to Stanford next week, and will make his official to Florida State the weekend of January 27. He stated this week that he wants to visit Ohio State on January 20, and if that visit happens, anything is possible. I don't expect Winston to end up in Scarlet and Gray, and he may not play college football at all next year as he's expected to be a first round pick in the MLB draft, but if Urban can get him on campus for 48 hours, never say never.

Mentioned before, linebacker Camren Williams is Ohio State's top prospect at the position. Williams is currently committed to Penn State, but loved his official visit to Columbus back in December and is waiting things out to see what happens with the PSU coaching situation before making a decision between the two schools. Williams is expected to visit Happy Valley next weekend and will make a return trip to Columbus with his mom for an unofficial visit before hosting both coaching staffs at his home in Massachusetts. I like Ohio State's chances right now, especially since the Nittany Lions still don't have a head coach and when they pick one it is not expected to be a home run hire.

A couple of other linebackers are also considering making the trip to the Buckeye State this month and they are not to be overlooked by anyone. The first is OLB Jamal Marcus of Durham (NC) Hillside and the second is MLB Dalton Santos of Van High School in Texas.

Marcus played defensive end in high school but at 6-3/240 is being recruited primarily to play outside linebacker. He currently has Florida, East Carolina, UNC, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Auburn, and USC on his list in addition to the Buckeyes, but with Urban Meyer and Everett Withers now in Columbus, things could get real serious on this front. Withers could play a big factor in this recruitment as he was one of the main reasons Marcus appeared to be headed for Carolina Blue just a few months ago.

Santos, a Tennessee commit, is a new name to Buckeye fans and his interest in visiting on January 27 was first reported yesterday by Bill Greene of Scout/Buckeye Sports Bulletin ($). He is a 4-star middle linebacker prospect and will be participating in the Under Armour Game later tonight. It appears that Santos is thinking things over a bit after Tennessee linebacker coach, Peter Sirmon, and defensive coordinator, Justin Wilcox, are both leaving the school to join Steve Sarkisian's staff at Washington. Sirmon was Santos's primary recruiter and now that things aren't as certain for the Texas native, a late January visit to Columbus looks to be on tap.

Another player could also be making an official visit in January if the invitation goes out and that is Archbishop Moeller WR Monty Madaris. Madaris is a known name to Ohio recruiting fans, but interest from the Buckeyes has wavered during the past few years. OSU appeared to be all filled up at receiver, but Madaris's coach is now claiming the Buckeyes' staff has been in contact again, meaning there may be a current commit at the position. Ricquan Southward has been rumored to be wavering and another player has some academic issues in question, so Urban may have Madaris on speed dial just in case either of those fall through. The talented receiver from Cincinnati has officially visited UC and Michigan State already, has a trip planned to Michigan next weekend, and was also looking to visit Kentucky later this month.

Finally, Stefon Diggs liked OSU from the start, dropped them last summer, liked them again when Urban Meyer was hired, dropped them again last week, and now apparently likes them again. Down in San Antonio for US Army All-American Bowl practices, Diggs said he still has Ohio State in the picture and would like to try and make a visit to campus for an official to see what Urban Meyer has to offer. I still would be surprised if that visit actually happens, but like Winston, if Meyer can make magic happen and get him to come to Columbus, the Buckeyes will have as good of a shot as anyone. At the end of the day I don't expect this star receiver to end up playing Saturdays in the Horseshoe, but would love to see what this coaching staff can do with him on a visit.

Looking In At The High School Bowls

The Offense-Defense All-American Bowl and the Semper Fidelis All-American Bowl have come and gone, now leaving the Under Armour All-America Game and the US Army All-American Bowl left on the slate for the nation's high school all-stars.

Tommy Schutt is a big boyTommy Schutt is turning heads in San Antonio

Down in sunny St. Petersburg, Florida, Under Armour practices have gotten under way and featured in the game is Ohio State commit DE Noah Spence, as well as aforementioned OSU recruiting targets OL Joey O'Connor, QB Jameis Winston, and WR/CB Davonte' Neal.

Spence is playing a bit nicked up, but has dominated regardless of a sore back. Reports are that Spence is lightning fast off the line of scrimmage and that not one of the offensive linemen has been able to keep up with him. I expect this pass-rushing talent to be put to good use next year, and I think you will see Spence seeing the field right away, at the very least in situational formations for passing downs.

O'Connor has reportedly struggled a bit during practice week, playing both guard and tackle during the sessions. Windsor ran a triple option so pass protection was not something Joey has too much experience in, so while it is not necessarily his fault, it is something he needs to improve on at the next level. I think O'Connor will be a very good get for whoever lands him, but there is no question he is not game ready at the Ohio State football level just yet.

Winston has had good days and bad days down in Florida, but the one thing everyone is talking about is how good of an athlete he is. What's even more impressive to me is how mature of a kid he is. If you listen to the interviews, such as this one, you really get a sense that this is a great kid and one you would love suiting up for the Buckeyes next year.

Finally, when talking to people who have watched Neal, all I hear is how much speed he is. Davonte' was selected to the game as a corner back, but is playing wide receiver for the Black team as well, showing the versatility that makes him one of the more sought after prospects in the nation. I think this kid is an absolute stud and would play him on both sides of the ball in college if it was my choice, as well as on special teams. Watch out for him tonight in the UA Game (7:30 EST ESPN) and you will see him make some big plays.

In the US Army All-American Bowl down in San Antonio, two Buckeye commits in DE Adolphus Washington and DT Tommy Schutt, as well as three prospects in WR Stefon Diggs, WR/DB Joel Caleb, and OT Kyle Dodson are all members of the East squad.

Washington has been everything he was billed up to be during practices, winning all of his 1-on-1 drills with the offensive linemen, which unfortunately didn't give us a preview of Adolphus against Kyle Kalis. Washington has shown great explosion and strength at the point of contact and looks to be ready to make an immediate impact in Columbus next season.

Like Washington, Schutt has also dominated offensive linemen all week, showing those who weren't impressed by his size in the "looks test" before the sessions started, earlier in the week. Schutt has been an absolute beast in the middle for the East, being both an unmovable object for blockers, as well as showing the athleticism to make a play at getting after the quarterback or ball carrier in the backfield. With so many talented defensive linemen at OSU it is hard to see how anyone can find a way into the rotation, but Schutt also looks ready to play immediately and will be tough to keep off the field next season.

Diggs has also been everything you expected, showing off his speed and more importantly an ability to run routes well, something many high school receivers lack due to being able to beat inferior competition with pure jets and strength. Adolphus Washington has been in his ear all week about playing for the Buckeyes and it appears he is bonding well with the Columbus-bound defensive lineman, obviously good news for Urban Meyer.

Caleb has flown a bit under the radar at practice, as I haven't heard much on him. That is good in a sense that he is not playing poorly, but also isn't making too many plays. The roster has him slated as a defensive back, but like Neal in the UA Game, I expect him to play a little bit of both come Saturday. He is down to Ohio State, Virginia Tech, Georgia, West Virginia, and Florida State and is expected to decide around Signing Day.

Finally, Dodson will not participate in the game as he has a torn labrum, but has been getting an earful from commits of all schools. Wisconsin is technically still where he is committed to as of now, but with visits taken to OSU and Auburn and a visit planned to USC and possibly Michigan State or Michigan, Badger fans should be very worried here. I think Ohio State wins out in the end for Dodson, but with the way things could go in the next few weeks, he may want to make that decision sooner rather than later.

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Maestro's picture

As the world turns.  Keeping tabs on these kids must be tough sledding Alex.  Thanks for the hard work.

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Ethan's picture

Always the highlight of the 11W week. Alex, what do you think the chances are that Southward decommits?  

Alex's picture

I'm not confident he comes, nor am I confident he leaves haha...I'd say 60/40 he is a Buckeye

Buckeye06's picture

So, we have like 4-6 spots left?

 

Who do we finish with; seems like there are still a dozen guys in the mix.  I'd say we need 2 tackles at the least, then maybe a linebacker and a speed guy for 4.  Is that kind of how we're looking?

BuckeyeJim's picture

Thank you Alex. The articles you write about recruiting fire me up and I can't wait for signing day. The spring game can't get here soon enough.

DefendOhio's picture

Great work as always Alex. What are you hearing about Diamond?

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

god i hope we land Decker! we need lineman, we can't afford to give Notre Dame and Michigan anymore of our top guys. I can't imagine why JT didn't recruit this kid at all. especially if he wanted to be a Buckeye.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

bassplayer7770's picture

I just read on Buckeye Planet that Decker is still leaning toward the Irish.

Alex's picture

What I have heard is that OSU is the team to beat....for now

This one will come down to signing day...I don't doubt Meyer and think Diamond's chances to be a Buckeye are good unless three linemen commit before him

Bucks43201's picture

great job on this article!

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

mastermiind's picture

always impressed by these articles.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

Alex, my man, thank you.   Been checking hte site every 15 minutes today, waiting for your writeup, ha ha.   Santos is an interesting one.   We need a true MLB, but someone with a little speed. 

Sounds like Neal is the main "burner" guy we are targeting, getting him is huge to me.

Glad to hear the DL guys we have signed appear to be tearing up the all star practices.

Squirrel Master's picture

totally agree with you Dr. Need a captain at MLB to lead this D. I totally miss Rolle, Larinitus and Hawk. here is hoping Shazier can become that player or someone!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

and Matt Wilhelm, and Katzenmoyer....that mike list is long and illustrious....I think Shazier is built for the outside, more speed and not as bulky as a true MLB, and his future is exceedingly bright coming off the edge.....

Squirrel Master's picture

see and I don't think Sabino or Grant are MLB also. So if Shazier is not the player for it, then who can step up and play that role. It was a glaring issue this year without Rolle and even Jermale Hines.

well can't forget Wilhelm and the Big Katz but was sticking with past 3 stud MLB that by the way are all starting in the NFL. That is awesome. Rolle is sooooo underrated. He gets after it.

 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

I agree with you....and whoever our next stud MLB is, I don't think he is on the roster at this moment....Grant projected at outside.....Sabino was an MLB in high schol, but I think he is better suited to the outside....maybe Klein develops, but that's a long shot....

Jdadams01's picture

Agree with you about the above. Klein is done starting IMHO. I have some hope left that Grant may turn out to be a good guy for the middle, but we'll see.

BuckeyeJim's picture

I think Sabino came on strong toward the end of the year. I think that either he or Grant will make great MLBs next year. They both have the build and speed that it takes to play in the middle.

Maestro's picture

Really?  I am pretty sure I saw D. Robinson leaving him grasping at air on a number of occasions.  I have very low expectations for Sabino.  He will have to win me over.

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bassplayer7770's picture

Sabino did look bad against UM, but he had a few good hits in the Gator Bowl.  Honestly, given Shazier's injury, I thought Sabino may have had the best game of the LBs. 

I think we all know Urban is giving these kids a clean slate for next season, so they're going to have to earn playing time next season.  To me, that is pretty exciting, and I can't wait to see who earns that PT.

As for LBs, we do already have Luke Roberts and Josh Perry committed, so maybe we could see those guys next season?  Of course, I'd love to get one or two more LBs committed in this class (just like the rest of you would I'm sure).

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

Sabino certianly looked better later in the year, not sure if that growth continues into next year....and too early to say on Grant, I didn't see enarly enough of him at LB to make any comment on him yet, but know that he was projected as an OLB coming out....

SonOfBuckeye's picture

Alex's recruiting reports are my favorite thing about 11W (not to slight the other writers, who also do great work).  Thanks for keeping us up to date.

Squirrel Master's picture

not sure about the current talent at the D-line position. Simon and Nate Williams are great. Hankins is talented and making plays (he will be huge if he gets to playing weight that Meyers would like). Steve Miller is an up and comer and bennett I like alot.

but after those, who really has shown production or the possibility of it yet? There are some talented recruits from last year and maybe they haven't gotten a chance yet, but I just feel like we could really use the recruits coming in this year for when Simon, Williams leave.

plus the way the line played this year I really am happy this years recruits are so strong. Maybe it was the lack of good linebacker play but if an offense can contain Simon and Hankins (easy with double teams) then we were not getting any pass rush. Sometimes it just seemed like it was the Simon show and although the dude is a beast, need more than him!

man I missed Nasty Nate this year! :(

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Buckeye06's picture

Well not many teams rotate more than 8 guys on the DL. Take those 5, Bellamy looked good I thought at times this year, Goebel has 1 more year I think.  Hale had some reps during the year, as did Moore if I recall.  Then just throw in some of the real young guys this year to get them reps and we should be good to go. 

Maestro's picture

Baldwin made a few plays early in the season too.  I think the DLine will continue to be the strength of the team.

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Squirrel Master's picture

true. the linebackers should be a bigger concern. Just was not too happy with the D-line play overall this year. and that could have been scheme issues or lack of experience/speed behind them.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Squirrel Master's picture

well hopefully cuz as of right now once Simon and williams are gone OSU is going to need some of those talented youngsters to take over.

Yeah, Hale showed some. Hard to get in because Simon and Hankins owned the middle and I think Bellamy and Goebel was the backups.

and I am not saying the kids that are there are not good, just would like to know that we are set for the future. I think Spence and Washington are set to get some real playing time this year.

 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

cbusbuckeye's picture

i thought both simon and williams were coming back?

Squirrel Master's picture

for one year during sanctions. after they leave, who takes over?

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

OurHonorDefend09's picture

Moore played like garbage and I don't understand how he stayed on the field. He was terribly slow on defense, as he was in high school. Not to mention the fact that he gave up a punt block in the regular season and would have let up one in the bowl game if another player didn't  let the other side in.

 

In my opinion, Bennett is the best outside of the starters. If these kids come in and can play next year as freshmen, Miller (who played decent), Hale, and Moore shouldn't see the field.

Don't give up... Don't ever give up.

Squirrel Master's picture

I agree with Moore. He played well and showed some in 2010 but that was probably attributed to the rest of the line. he is just depth IMO.

Bennett I like alot and can see him getting some good PT. but like you say, with these pre-frosh coming in, he might not get to start anytime soon.

I think Steve Miller is still untapped and could possible beef up a bit for a speed DT even. That is what I am saying about the future. A line that is effective of Washington and Spence on the outside and Schutt and Miller on the inside as a speed line would be awesome. I know, leaving out Hankins but he really needs to change a bit to fit Meyer's game plan and that is speed. Perhaps constant rolling of Schutt, Miller, Hankins and Bennett at the 2 DT would be the future. We shall see.

oh, and almost forgot Se'von Pittman rolling with Washington and Spence on the outside. not sure why I keep forgetting about Pittman. Guy is a beast from what everyone says.

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ausmos's picture

Can we actually fit 4-6 more guys in this class with the reduction in scholarships? Anyone want to break down the numbers for me?

William's picture

We're at 19 right now. We have the three scholly reduction, yet there will most likely be 3 medical hardship players in Hagan, McVey, and Fellows. Those three negate the losses from our scholarships for this year. Also Taylor Graham, and Jaamal Berry will have transferred which opens up two more spots, with T.Y. Williams as a possibility also. I don't know how many players we have on scholarship, and how many graduating seniors we have, but a class of 23-25 is certainly possible.

Alex's picture

Yes...right now we have room for two...don't like throwing out names like this but I can see someone like an Adam Homan going on medical hardship or something like that and can also see Adam Griffin's scholly being "voluntarily paid for" by Archie...that would be four...take into account rumblings of maybe a guy like TY Williams leaving and maybe 1 or 2 others due to either grades or attrition (I could see Pitt Brown leaving at some point just a guess though) and there is your 6

JasonOSU_UNI's picture

Re: Adam Griffin, don't university employees get significanly reduced tuition for dependents?  I'm sure Archie could swing the rest...

William's picture

Yes they do. The fact that Tressel even gave scholarships to kids because of who their parents are is ridiculous. Whatever happened to earning a scholarship based on merit?

Jdadams01's picture

Also, early enrollees count toward last year's scholly total. So Jones, Thomas, Dunn, etc. count toward 2011, not 2012.

Granted, we still have to watch the total numbers for this fall. Which at the point the attrition (and I'm betting at least 3-4 transfers) will ease the numbers that we sign.

Alex's picture

You're right about numbers of early guys counting against this year but that only matters for the b1G signing limit....for the ban the only number that matters is 82 scholarship players on roster the next 3 years....with the 19 commits we have 80 guys on my count right now

NYC Buckeye's picture

I assume no news on Diamond is not good... I know hes waiting until signing day to announce, really crossing my fingers that we can get him...

Didn't know we were so tight in the mix for Neal... he looks like Urbans kind of player so hopefully we recruit him on offense and return game only, but figure Rich Rod and the HS coach will be a tough to overcome...

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

Outside of nailing down a couple of OT's, I am really starting to think "Urban's Designated  Burner" is the most important spot left....ideally we get 2 OT's, 1 LB, and a Neal type....that would be 4 there....anything on top of that is gravy to me.....

OurHonorDefend09's picture

Exactly how I feel. If we get those 4 you stated this class should be phenomenal on paper.

Don't give up... Don't ever give up.

NYC Buckeye's picture

Agreed, we need two OT in THIS class... Crossing my fingers Alex is right about Dodson, and adding Diamond would make me feel much better...

Im just sick and tired of offensive line being a weakness, and now were plugging in Reid Fragel at tackle?!?!  Kid better start eating and getting wider..

M Man's picture

I always had a theory; unscientific and without supporting data.  It is that recruits are unfazed by the notion of "NCAA sanctions," but they are sensitive to coaching changes, even changes in position coaches and recruiting coordinators.  And to me, it just makes sense that this would be the case.

OSU is facing some sanctions; but it isn't facing any coaching changes, apart from totally favorable ones.  i.e., Taylor Decker and some changes occurring at ND.

I know of no OSU recruits who have softened as a result of the changes, incidentally.  Do any of you?  "Coaching change" seems to be working strongly in your favor.  (I had always thought that Michigan's NCAA investigation, stemming from such ridiculous allegations, never hurt us in recruiting from the perspective of "snactions."  The way it hurt us, and it really did hurt us, was that it got some of the college football chattering classes talking about firing Rich Rodriguez, which in turn made recruits think that Michigan was unstable.)

Maestro's picture

Certainly hasn't hurt USC much.  It might down the road from a scholly reduction standpoint, but man I will have them in my top 5 preseason for sure.

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M Man's picture

Yeah, 'SC sort of proves my point, doesn't it? 

Pete Carroll was gone so fast and with so little warning, there was just a vapor trail leading north up the coast from Malibu.  So no agonizing over a 'coaching change.'  In fact, they went out and immedately hired Pete Carroll Jr.  And despite some punitive sanctions, they keep bringing in more pipe hittin' 5-star bruthas.

Maestro's picture

They all get a Kardashian too.

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M Man's picture

lol.  While I was laughing at this, I realized I misspelled "snactions" above. It all makes sense now.

BuckeyeJim's picture

I like "snactions". We just need to figure out a meaning.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

"Snactions" are the draconian penalties you must pay if you're caught buying illegal snacks for NCAA athletes - for example, an unauthorized 2-AM sack of Whitey's.  

Maestro's picture

Wow, nice pull M Man.  Good lord I can't imagine working for the NCAA.

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Maestro's picture

well played

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BuddhaBuck's picture

Urban (at Florida) always seemed to find a way to pull in the recruits on National Hat Picking Day.... I predict that this February will be no different and we will all be (further) impressed, regardless of who's included in the finalized class.

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dancorona5's picture

could be a reason Cyrus Jones doesnt want to come here...

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7424289/recruiting-no-longer-business-usual

im going to assume the person he is talking about is Meyer...

Maestro's picture

Whatever.  All coaches will mention players that they have coached in the past.  It's called a point of reference.

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bassplayer7770's picture

Seriously.  He could have watched Percy Harvin highlights to see how he could be used in the Offense.  Seems very logical to me.

Jdadams01's picture

My take on this was that Cyrus's attitude about was straight Saban. Cyrus had no problem with how Meyer was recruiting him until Saban visited. I'm sure Saban immediately threw out, "Why would you wanna be the next Percy Harvin? That's insulting. We at Bama want you to be the First Cyrus Jones. Blah Blah Blah."

dancorona5's picture

all true..just found it interesting that the biggest turn off for him was being told that he could be the next Harvin... a player in the NFL. I personally would be flattered. but whatever. life goes on. hope he finds the right place for himself

Maestro's picture

Apparently we wouldn't understand.  There is only one Cyrus Jones............ha.

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

A few years from now, Percy Harvin will realize that he was striving to be the pre-Cyrus Jones before the one and true Cyrus Jones was ready to get paid.     

DMcDougal24's picture

I was talking back and forth with Keith from Rivals on Twitter, here are his thoughts regarding Winston..

@KeithRIVALS Do you see Jameis Winston changing his commitment?
"@DMcDougal24 good question. I'm leaning toward him sticking but Bama is serious threat. Was told LSU was, too, b4 Gunner commit"

@KeithRIVALS Regarding when he (Winston) mentioned visit to OSU because of Meyer... One in a million shot of a commit?

"@DMcDougal24 here's the problem. his baseball path. That might be his better sport to make money"

Definitely consistent with your work, Alex. Great article

Maestro's picture

Get Nick Swisher on the case.

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DMcDougal24's picture

What we need is for the Indians to draft him. That will scare him out of baseball and straight into OSU.

Baroclinicity's picture

That's not funny, but oh so true!

Kevbo714's picture

I have always been a fan of JH (or anyone who wears #7 for the Bucks) but IMHO he looked sluggish and slow in the gator bowl, especially on his kick returns. There are multiple examples of when he didn't look as such (KR vs. tsun comes to mind right away) but it seemed as if he could never find a seem in his last bowl game (blocking maybe?). I view him as a great talent, but as a "home run threat," he still has something to prove. As always, let's go Bucks, and I don't care who you are, but I will always support those who don the scarlet and gray...

Tom Crean listens to Nickelback...

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

yea, I think we kind of beat this topic to death yesterday, but I think almost all of us agreed he looked abnormally slow in the Bowl Game....whether it be an unknown injury, cleats too long, or whatever, he was not his normal self...love him in space though, and he certianly has value, but we need more speed returning kicks....that's where a Neal type guy comes in, get him on short slants, bubble screens (with blocking, hopefully) and returning kicks....keep Hall in the backfield or get him some quick hitters, screens, etc....he showed how shifty he is on his TD catch in the GB....

HolyBuckeye1093's picture

The 11w Recruiting Notebook has quickly become my favorite read of the week. Thanks for all ur hard work and your prompt relies on Twitter as well Alex. Look forward to the AA games and the last month of recruiting. Lets get these kids on campus with a full student body and let Urban and his staff work magic.

BTwrestle04's picture

Hey Urban, start working on getting this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dNN_WZozQM

ih8rolltyde's picture

It's funny to see that Florida got a choke artist for a kicker.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Watching TSUN come back on Ind. Damn. OT finished

Did we have a big time recruit turn down his OSU commitment or something like that during the game tonight. Saw some twitter comments that made it seem like that happened.

dbit's picture

Watching this UA game, Noah Spence is getting past his man on just about every play.  Get excited...

slippy's picture

Noah Spence just made the White team's o line look silly 3 plays in a row.

GABuckeye's picture

He is nasty!  And Odenigbo looks just as good.

dgrubbs's picture

Hey Alex, thanks again for all your hard work. I saw on ESPN that PSU will announce that the Patriots OC will be there new head coach on Saturday. Does PSU now having a head coach affect our chances of getting Camren Williams?

Squirrel Master's picture

Cyrus Jones just verballed to Alabama.

It's okay cus Devonte Neal looks good and he is still in the mix.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Bj Mullens over Sully's picture

OSU had been out of the Cyrus mix ever since Saban convinced him not to take visit to columbus.

Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens

Squirrel Master's picture

I know. just announcing his verbal. He looked good but he is talking offense and if he is playing for Saban, he will be on defense eventually. Saban usually makes his athletes play defense early. and usually it works out.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

jerkyrizzo21's picture

NE coordinator Bill O'Brien, PSU's 19th choice, takes the job.  This will work out really well, just like we did. >>> Eric Mangini, Romeo Crennel, Josh McDaniels...

onetwentyeight's picture

HOW CAN YOU FORGET CHARLIE WEIS

dgrubbs's picture

Spence is looking like a monster tonight! I know this isn't the right thread but I had to say it somewhere.

Squirrel Master's picture

This is the right thread at the moment.

Spence is looking good. Visions of him and Nate as bookends sounds real nice.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

jerkyrizzo21's picture

I missed the UA game.  Is Spence definitely a DE, or could he be a hybrid player?

 

Squirrel Master's picture

He is a true DE. long and quick. he really dominated tonight.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Bucks43201's picture

Spence is a beast! watched UA game -- man, what a quick first step

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

HolyBuckeye1093's picture

Screw trying to flip Kalis. Let's try to flip Joe Bolden. He is going to be an All Big Ten LB for years to come at scUM. He is a tackling machine with a great nose for the ball. With him and Cam Williams, Curtis Grant and Shazier. What a core of LBs!!

M Man's picture

All our recruits are belong to us.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Not yet!

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spqr2008's picture

I think it's "All your base are belong to us" M Man, so it is properly paraphrased as "All your recruits are belong to us"

flipbuckeye's picture

I don't think you get what he was trying to say.

DMcDougal24's picture

Mike Farrell from Scout is tweeting that Armani Reeves (PSU commit) will be visiting Ohio State and Michigan. Reeves is ranked #31 on ESPN, but they don't even have Ohio State listed as one of the schools he is interested in.

He then tweeted that Cam Williams (PSU Commit) is not visiting PSU this weekend as had been reported and that he is between OSU and PSU now.

I almost feel bad for PSU, but wouldn't that be something if OSU snags Spence, Williams, and Reeves from Penn St.?

Also, from ESPN:

"Four-star cornerback Ronald Darby (Oxon Hill, Md./Potomac; No. 69 in the ESPNU 150), who was the top rated player in Notre Dame's class, has opened up his recruitment, multiple sources report.

Darby, who pledged to the Irish in April, 2011, is expected to visit Florida State and Clemson. He is also considering making stops at Ohio State and LSU and he has offers from many other top programs."

bassplayer7770's picture

I read the staff just recently got in touch with Reeves, so that may be why the recruiting sites aren't yet updated.

Alex here at 11W has stated Cam is between PSU and OSU, and I think I may like our chances even more now since he's "indifferent" about the PSU hire.

Also, wasn't Schutt a former PSU commit?

DMcDougal24's picture

Alex has been on the ball with Cam, I give him all the credit and don't mean to take anything away by citing other sources.

And yes he was a former PSU commit, good call.

sox33osu's picture

Been seeing some comments on the need for a leader at MLB. I couldn't agree more, but I think we've found him. Luke Roberts is one of the most intelligent players I've ever seen play. He has an unbelievable motor and is faster than he clocks. Like Laurinaitis, he flew under the radar in the recruiting arena, but he has done nothing by rise since last summer. Expect him to be a starter in 2013 or 2014 after a RS frosh year. He has great size and is a punishing tackler.