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By Jeremy Birmingham on December 13, 2011 at 4:00p
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Tommy SchuttTommy Schutt is the 1st commit of Urban Meyer's OSU tenure

Good afternoon Eleven Warriorites, I am sure you're checking in today for your regularly scheduled dose of "Around The Oval", where we review the previous week of Buckeye non-revenue sports.

I hope that you're not too disappointed when you realize that once more we've decided to mix it up a bit, and in lieu of ATO this week, we'll take a look at the "big picture" of Ohio State's football recruiting class.

Yo, VIP, let's kick it.

where we are today

Yesterday Ohio State received their two latest commitments in the 2012 recruiting class from DT Tommy Schutt and DE Se'Von Pittman.

Schutt (5th rated DT on Scout.com and Rivals.com) was very high on Ohio State early in his recruitment, but had committed to Penn State after the "Memorial Day Massacre" in Columbus. Once his new chosen school was hit by its own (and on-going) coaching change amid scandal, he decided to start looking around again. He visited Ohio State this past weekend for an official visit and made a verbal commitment to Urban Meyer on Sunday before it became public yesterday. 

Pittman completed the Monday double-down late Monday night when he committed during an in-home visit with Urban Meyer and Luke Fickell. Se'Von had pledged to Michigan State in June, and there was a lot of speculation at the time that perhaps his commitment was as functional as it was factual. The rumor-mongering and yellow journalism outlining Ohio State's NCAA fate was at an all-time high, and Pittman protected his place with MSU. The coaching situation at Ohio State was murky, the NCAA situation was murky, and Pittman made a "smart" decision. On Monday, he made a "heart" decision and told MSU's Mark Dantonio he would be signing with Ohio State come February.

2012 Ohio State Commitment List
NAME POS Hometown
Cardale Jones QB Cleveland, OH
Bri'onte Dunn RB Canton, OH
Warren Ball RB Columbus, OH
Mike Thomas WR Los Angeles, CA
Frank Epitropoulus WR Upper Arlington, OH
Roger Lewis WR Pickerington, OH
Ricquan Southward WR Lakeland, FL
Blake Thomas TE Cleveland, OH
Patrick Elflein G Pickerington, OH
Jacoby Boren G Pickerington, OH
Tommy Schutt DT Glen Ellyn, IL
Adolphus Washington DE Cincinnati, OH
Se'Von Pittman DE Canton, OH
Joshua Perry LB Lewis Center, OH
Luke Roberts LB Lancaster, OH
Devan Bogard DB Cleveland, OH
Najee Murray DB Steubenville, OH
Tyvis Powell DB Bedford, OH

 So with signing day only 49 days away, the Buckeyes now sit in a position that not many could visualize as recently as three weeks ago: having to turn down a handful of All-American quality recruits. With 18 current commitments there is one question that is regularly being tossed around, and with good reason.

how much room is left at the inn?

"How can Ohio State have 18 commitments, Jeremy? They only have 14 seniors! Darn you Urban Meyer, you oversigning SEC warlock!"

Ohio State entered this season with 79 players on scholarship, which means that they were six scholarships under the NCAA limit of 85. Those six open spots, combined with the 14 departing seniors, means that there would be 20 "open" scholarships for this 2012 class. Nathan Williams will apply for, and likely receive, a medical redshirt from the NCAA, taking that number down to 19. Taylor Graham's transfer bumps it back to 20.

If you breakdown the roster a bit further, more spots open up without much wrangling. The smoke around rumors that Melvin Fellows will end up having his career finished due to injuries is almost impossible to see through it's so thick, and Scott McVey and Chad Hagan may end up in similar situations.

Jamaal Berry's legal status is in limbo, and if he finds himself convicted of assault, it's very unlikely that he ever plays again for Ohio State.

There are rumors that one current commitment is in danger of not making the grade, and he could find himself on the outside looking in if that's the case. 

Then there's the curious case of Bri'onte Dunn. Dunn is currently committed to Ohio State, and has been for a while, but his commitment would not be regarded as "solid" by most. I keep him on the list, but tentatively so. He was scheduled to Michigan this weekend for the third time in the last month, this time "officially", but has pushed that visit back to January. The entire Midwest seems to be waiting for him to make his final decision.

Aside from those obvious cases, there is attrition in any coaching change, and Buckeye fans should expect to see other players leave the program for any number of reasons. It's not unreasonable to think that Urban could get 25 in this class if he felt like playing the "wait and see" game that Nick Saban likes to play, but I don't think that will fly in Ohio with high school coaches, and I think Urban knows that, too. I assure you that none of the players currently committed will have their offers retracted, or be told to look elsewhere so that "better" guys can get in. 

For the sake of arguing, I believe that Ohio State will sign 24 players come February 1st.

get yo' popcorn ready

The frenetic pace that Urban Meyer has set, the big names he has reached out to, and the renewed interest those big names have in Ohio State has been discussed ad nauseam, so rather than go over all the remaining possibilities to fill the last six spots, we'll try and focus on a select few that you're likely to hear the most about in upcoming weeks.

Jameis Winston - Quarterback - Hueytown, Alabama Winston is the nation's second ranked QB prospect, and was at one point a Florida State verbal commitment, but has since re-opened his commitment, and the Buckeyes are squarely in the picture. Winston was very high on Ohio State before Tressel's "resignation", and was one of the first players Urban contacted upon his hiring. If he cements a visit date, then this goes from interesting to very interesting. 

Cyrus Jones - Wide Receiver - Baltimore, Maryland When you think of Urban Meyer's offense, it seems most people go to Tim Tebow and Percy Harvin. Cyrus Jones is one of Urban's highest priority targets, and he has let Jones know it. Jones will visit Ohio State this upcoming weekend after being visited by Luke Fickell last week and his announcement is scheduled for the January 5th Under-Armour All-Star Game.

Joel Caleb - Wide Receiver - Midlothian, VA The first of the "new wave" of potential recruiting targets is Joel Caleb. A big, fluid athlete at WR, Caleb visited Ohio State two weekends ago and "loved everything." In a numbers game, Caleb may be forced to pull the trigger on a commitment soon, lest he risk losing the chance.

Kyle Dodson - Offensive Tackle - Cleveland, OH Dodson is a big body at a position of great need for the Buckeyes, and his commitment to Wisconsin was both a shock and a disappointment when it happened in June. Some speculate that he was turned off by the Buckeyes attempt at motivating him to improve his grades to earn an offer, others feel he was just sold a bill of goods on the Buckeyes NCAA prospects. Either way, the big fella' visited Ohio State this past weekend and is definitely rethinking his commitment to the Badgers. He may very well be the next piece of the Buckeye puzzle to fall into place.

Noah Spence - Defensive End - Harrisburg, PA Spence, like LB Camren Williams, may become available to Ohio State because of the unrest at Penn State. While Spence was never a commitment for the Nittany Lions, they were considered to be the heavy favorite. As the top-ranked defensive end in the country, Spence could give the Buckeyes the best defensive line haul in their recruiting history; heck, were he to choose the Buckeyes, the group of DL commits could rival anyone's, ever.

Bam Bradley - Defensive Back - Trotwood, OH Bradley is making a visit to Columbus this upcoming weekend fresh on the heels of winning a state championship at Trotwood-Madison. Bradley has a number of excellent offers, and his visit happening so quickly indicates that A) the staff is serious about him and his offer and B) he realizes this class is going to fill up very quickly. Bradley is sort of a man without a position, but has the athletic ability to play DB and the frame to maybe make a move to linebacker. Coming from Trotwood-Madison, a school that is quickly becoming one of Ohio's premiere breeding grounds for D1 talent doesn't hurt either.

There are plenty of other names considering Ohio State, and Urban Meyer is probably calling more as I type this. So don't be surprised if/when new names to pop up.

2012 Recruiting Targets
Name POS Hometown  Other Schools of Interest Visit
Jameis Winston QB Hueytown, AL FSU, Alabama, Auburn N/A
Cyrus Jones WR Baltimore, MD Alabama, Florida, Auburn 12/16
Stefon Diggs WR Baltimore, MD Auburn, Cal, Florida, Michigan N/A
Joel Caleb  WR Midlothian, VA Penn State, Georgia, VaTech, WVU 12/02
Kyle Dodson OT Cleveland, OH Auburn, Wisconsin 12/10
Jordan Diamond OT Chicago, IL Auburn, Michigan, Wisconsin,  12/10
Nick Davidson OT Eden Prairie, MN Minnesota, Duke, Clemson N/A
Alex Kozan OG Highlands Ranch, CO Colorado, Iowa, Michigan 11/04
Noah Spence DE Harrisburg, PA Florida, Notre Dame, Penn State 12/17
Jamal Marcus DE Durham, NC Florida, Florida State, UNC, ECU N/A
Ekpen Iduoze DT New Berlin, NY Colorado, USC, Ball State 12/10
Camren Williams LB West Roxbury, MA Penn State, Boston College, UConn 12/11
David Perkins LB South Bend, IN  LSU, Michigan St, Tennessee, Mizzou N/A
Bam Bradley DB Trotwood, OH Michigan, Stanford, Pittsburgh 12/16
Davonte' Neal DB Scottsdale, AZ  Notre Dame, Arizona, Arizona State N/A

The last ten years saw Ohio State's brand develop into one of the nation's most recognizable among high school recruits, and the addition of Urban Meyer takes it to an even higher level. Jim Tressel, as comfortable and cool and loved as he was among his players, was not regarded as a "rock star" among the high school kids throughout the country, but Meyer is. We will see the Buckeyes more involved with the top players in Ohio and around the nation more than we ever have. 

Sprint to the finish

Will Spence be a Buckeye come February?

It's going to be an incredibly exciting and chaotic finish to this season's recruiting, and it should help the program build ridiculous momentum as the class of 2013 opens up.

Alex and I sat down and have put pen to paper on who we think finishes the class off for 2012.

There are subtle differences in our final guys, but we are in agreement that Noah Spence, Cyrus Jones, Jamal Marcus, Bam Bradley, and Kyle Dodson all end up donning the scarlet and gray for Urban Meyer next year.

I am decidedly less confident on the prospect of reeling in Jordan Diamond, the massive OT from Chicago who visited last weekend and got to spend a lot of time hanging out with a big number of Buckeye commits. I believe that Diamond had a great time at Ohio State, but I think that he may end up elsewhere. 

If Ohio State doesn't end up with Winston, then I wouldn't be shocked if another less-heralded QB has a chance to make the final cut. The Graham transfer and the graduation of Bauserman leave a bit of a hole depth-wise. If Kenny Guiton were to decide to transfer (not saying he will, or is even thinking about it, but who knows?) or Cardale Jones doesn't make the cut for one reason or another, then there's a major issue with QB depth, and Urban will address that each and every year.

Anyway, enough rambling from me. Here are our guesses, some educated, others not so much.

The 11W Wrap-Up
alex     Jeremy
OT Jordan Diamond OT Kyle Dodson
OT Kyle Dodson QB Jameis Winston
DE Noah Spence DE Noah Spence
WR Cyrus Jones WR Cyrus Jones
LB Camren Williams OL Nick Davidson
DE/LB Jamal Marcus DE/LB Jamal Marcus
DB Bam Bradley DB Bam Bradley

It now stands to reason that Ohio State could end up with another Top 5 class nationally, after an under whelming start fueled by innuendo and negative expectations. It's an incredible testament to the power of Ohio State, but also to the appeal of Urban Meyer.

Next Tuesday we will back with Around The Oval. See you then.

 

41 Comments

Comments

Maestro's picture

Huh, someone not making grades??  That's disappointing.

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btalbert25's picture

I have to wonder if it's Cardale again.  The if Jones doesn't make it for one reason or another comment makes me wonder.

Ethan's picture

I thought I remembered hearing rumblings a couple of weeks ago that it was Michael Thomas, but I could've been dreaming.

BuddhaBuck's picture

Thomas is enrolling early from FUMA... I'm guessing he's in the clear (per twitter)...

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jfrank373's picture

Excellent write up guys. The excitement around Buckeye football is at a high that hasn't been around since the tat-5 news broke this time last year. The players can feel it, the fans can feel it, and most importantly the recruits can feel it and it's showing with the commitments we've been landing.

Keep up the awesome work. I am sure the recruits you interview love knowing that Buckeye Nation wants them and wants them to have an awesome future wherever they decide to go. In all seriousness, thank you for providing us with a place to come and celebrate all things Buckeye Sports (but mostly football of course).

slicksickle's picture

Love the Vanilla reference.

Buckeye in Illini country's picture

Any chance we get more than the 3 or 4 OL commits?  I feel that is a place of really big need with the Brew Crew leaving.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

Always a chance, depending on who decides to jump.

Boren, Elflein, and Dodson, combined with any two of Davidson, Kozan and Diamond wouldn't be a surprise - but I think 4 is probably the most we'll see.

Maestro's picture

I don't think you can really afford to get more than 4 or 5 at any position in a class.  There are 4 OLineman from last year's class.  There are also a few preferred walk ons (I think) who are young.  There are needs all over the field and I would be thrilled with 4 offensive linemen in this class.

vacuuming sucks

dgrubbs's picture

Getting Jones would be huge. I noticed you both had him as a commitment. Have you heard anything about him seriosuly considering tOSU or are we just so confident in Urban's magic? Also, do you think Diggs is an option at all?

GABuckeye's picture

What happened to Odenigbo?  He going to Stanford/Notre Dame?

William's picture

Odenigbo is gone. He'll be at ND or Stanford. Jamal Marcus and Camren Williams are both highly interested and are complete studs as well.

BuddhaBuck's picture

Still sucks to lose an Ohio kid... 3rd year: Jordan Hicks, Trey DePriest, now Odenigbo...

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DefendOhio's picture

This has a little different feel than it did for Hicks and DePriest. Sure, getting Odenigbo would be great, but our spots are so tight, OSU doesn't really have room for him. OSU has moved on and so has Odenigbo. I wouldn't compare not getting him to the last 2 years. Those LB's were more talented and were much more wanted by OSU.

btalbert25's picture

Even  Hicks, while a big loss, isn't the same as De Priest taking off.  Hicks had ties to Austin and the Longhorn program.  I was always under the impression is was a Longhorn all along and Ohio State started making momentum toward the end. 

MilwaukeeBuck's picture

New to this site. Great work guys! Nice to have somewhere to follow the latest happenings in buckeye land. Would love to see urban pluck dodson from biff bielema and the cheeseheads! I'm sick of hearing the "W" frat boys at work talk about the badgers being 2 plays from a national title appearance. Urban will right the ship soon and these meatheads can crawl back to their holes and play roll out the barrel and drown their sorrows.

jmoody's picture

Couldn't agree more. I'm from Illinois. I love this sight and can't wait for Dodson to become a Buckeye.

"Did you push yourself to be great today? If you didn't do it you lost a day. We ain't got many days to lose. We're going to push your a$$ like its never been pushed because what you've got in you were going to find out" UFM

dmurder's picture

All i want for christmas is Alex's list!

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

BTwrestle04's picture

My wishlist: Jordan Diamond, Kyle Dodson, Jameis Winston, Camren Williams, Cyrus Jones, Noah Spence, Bam Bradley

Adam Smith's picture

Is Stefon Diggs going to make a trip to Columbus?

Alex's picture

He says he is in January

Hoody Wayes's picture

What's up with the NCAA, huh? Maybe 11W should do a "Prognosticating the NCAA Ruling."

The winner comes closest to predicting the day the ruling is published and its severity.

DallasTheologian's picture

What about Nick Davidson?

Prophet's picture

Are you planning on looking at next year's recruiting class in tandem with your best guesses for this year? Putting together back-to-back classes that complement one another is key.

Prophet

Adam Smith's picture

Dunn just confirmed he is signing with the good guys on signing day.  No worries about him anymore. 

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

link?

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

unknownmusketeer's picture

DustinFox37

BREAKING: Brionte Dunn has fully committed back to Ohio State after in-home visit from Urban Meyer! #DunnDeal

theDuke's picture

sorry i don't know how to hyper link it.  

 

and i'm really lazy.  derpa derp

theDuke

jbirmmd's picture

Good summary of the current situation. 

 

Seriously, who would have even IMAGINED a month ago that we would be turning away top notch recruits!  Amazing. 

BuckNut1070's picture

Any insight on Jordan Diamond? Buckeyes Forever!!

 
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BuckNut1070's picture

With all of the running back we will have...there will be fresh legs on a continuous basis. By the way. Does anyone think that Urban Meyer will still keep the Ohio State "Run it down your throat." options in the offense. After all...that's what Buckeye Football is all about. Line up, and see if you can stop us. I just hope that Urban finds room for it in his new offensive philosphy!!

 
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"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium."  ~Woody Hayes~

ThirdLegLouie's picture

I think the Buckeyes did enough of that this year to have our quota met for the next few seasons. 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
BuddhaBuck's picture

For any other stat-nuts:

Alex's prognostication (in order of # of players by position): 

  • WR 5
    DL 5
    OL 4
    DB 4
    LB 3
    RB 2
    QB 1
    TE 1

Jeremy's prognostication: 

  • WR 5
    DL 5
    OL 4
    DB 4
    LB 2
    QB 2
    RB 2
    TE 1

Hope you guys are BOTH right. Meyer is filling needs and grabbing playmakers... *drooling*

tOSU has a history of pulling in a kid last minute that no one has heard of or discussed (a la Cameron Heyward)... any idea if history is likely to repeat itself? 

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28253937's picture

I think your 100% correct - there will be a last minute playmaker that currently isn't on the radar. In fact I feel conifident that it will be an OL out of Colorado (and NOT Alex Kozan). Don't be surprised if Coach Meyer gets 4star OL Joey O'Connor (UA All-American, ESPN 150, Rivals #87) to come to Columbus.

bassplayer7770's picture

Both of you had picked Cyrus Jones.  If you could change that pick, who would you change it to?

BuddhaBuck's picture

I hope Diggs - only because he has the meat-chickens on his list... 

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Jeremy Birmingham's picture

At this point, I would change Jones to Joel Caleb.

 

Also, I would like to remove Jameis Winston from my list and add another OL - either Diamond or Joey O'Connor.

bassplayer7770's picture

I just watched some Bam Bradley highlights on YT.  Yes, please!  :-D